{"id":"qe5983a33fa19410f296e","batch_id":"batch-000123","seq":900,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-21T10:54:28.308Z","text":"那些去Luc那作債權人登記的，比如那[删节：成员身份]也登記了過億美元，他們就是來搶錢的。受害者合理要求他們必須出示當初的匯款憑證，拿不出過億的匯款記錄，就是詐騙！\n他們當初登記時，Luc有責任要求他們出示匯款憑證，如果沒有，那麼就是虛假陳述，Luc與債權人合謀欺詐！\n還有多少人已經出金拿回了投資款，他們的所謂損失是否應該減去？\nLuc那兒有多少這樣的個案呢？法庭應該保護真正的受害者的權益。","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q0b41564ec1dccad716d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5983a33fa19410f296e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b41564ec1dccad716d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000123/pages/5","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5983a33fa19410f296e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5983a33fa19410f296e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qe5983a33fa19410f296e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q16988b137d65dbabdb20","speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-21T10:49:32.883Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16988b137d65dbabdb20"},{"id":"q0dff22719324c7d5b92b","speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-21T10:50:58.893Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dff22719324c7d5b92b"},{"id":"qbff1a8aeb10d7f76dec6","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-21T10:51:40.324Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbff1a8aeb10d7f76dec6"},{"id":"qc10471cd31be070076d4","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-21T10:58:26.738Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc10471cd31be070076d4"},{"id":"qb28722f681c87508ad31","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-21T11:12:14.724Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb28722f681c87508ad31"},{"id":"q8eb1bf8a2a3c72d25733","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-21T11:20:28.999Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eb1bf8a2a3c72d25733"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0b41564ec1dccad716d8","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-21T10:35:52.398Z","text":"没王认罪，就没郭定罪，破产案Luc就拿不到资产","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b41564ec1dccad716d8"}}