{"id":"qee4573e768987edafc23","batch_id":"batch-000139","seq":900,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:16:02.148Z","text":"一、Boss认定不是把投资款“变更登记”为郭的个人财产\n托雷斯法官并没有裁定：所有G系列公司的银行账户和投资款，在普通公司法、信托法或财产权意义上都由公司财产自动转化成郭的个人财产。\n她实际裁定的是：\n郭控制所有G Enterprise实体及其资产；\n郭能够决定资金如何使用；\n郭从这些资金中受益；\n因而这些资金在刑事没收意义上属于郭直接或间接“obtained”的犯罪收益。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f5fe7591cc2f037a50c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4573e768987edafc23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5fe7591cc2f037a50c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000139","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000139","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4573e768987edafc23","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4573e768987edafc23/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qee4573e768987edafc23","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q38d8ceccd022e6c6f56c","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:14:17.441Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38d8ceccd022e6c6f56c"},{"id":"q1f5fe7591cc2f037a50c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-27T00:14:18.826Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5fe7591cc2f037a50c"},{"id":"q897548801b604a64b509","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-27T00:15:25.826Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897548801b604a64b509"},{"id":"q57f1c00d352fc3a39c50","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-27T00:16:19.128Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57f1c00d352fc3a39c50"},{"id":"q5fc9e73eae265168603c","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:16:34.047Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fc9e73eae265168603c"},{"id":"qb2a17d41956c5e678a79","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-27T00:16:46.671Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2a17d41956c5e678a79"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q1f5fe7591cc2f037a50c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-27T00:14:18.826Z","text":"并且证明郭是boss，只是必要条件，不是充分条件。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5fe7591cc2f037a50c"}}