{"id":"qf1ba42b236eaf1192020","batch_id":"batch-000139","seq":560,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-26T00:37:56.753Z","text":"我说的实际操作层面，诈骗意图和实质性这种抽象的东西，主要就看你是否获利，只要你获利了，正常人会认为你就是在诈骗。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q80215de9a5884da98f58","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1ba42b236eaf1192020","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80215de9a5884da98f58","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000139/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000139/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1ba42b236eaf1192020","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1ba42b236eaf1192020/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qf1ba42b236eaf1192020","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q161342336214c46c94ee","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-26T00:33:12.786Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q161342336214c46c94ee"},{"id":"qd905793d8774a0632cd7","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-26T00:33:23.482Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd905793d8774a0632cd7"},{"id":"q91d35372c1e63b6f4424","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-26T00:36:44.402Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91d35372c1e63b6f4424"},{"id":"q92cfddb61e62a4a473d8","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-26T00:38:21.897Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92cfddb61e62a4a473d8"},{"id":"qcd8cf8e5687cc357b390","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-07-26T00:39:18.105Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd8cf8e5687cc357b390"},{"id":"q2ae6829b87695958a42c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-07-26T00:46:30.981Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae6829b87695958a42c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q80215de9a5884da98f58","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-26T00:23:28.166Z","text":"不是，主要看有没有欺诈意图和明知参与，不一定要拿钱","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80215de9a5884da98f58"}}