{"id":"qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":433,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:11:16.679Z","text":"我觉得这个逻辑反过来用更有力，检方明知luc这个受托人存在以上的种种问题仍然接受他上刑事庭要钱，还把他的非法债权人当作被告受害者，甚至可能是抓捕被告的报案者。所以检方涉嫌共谋欺诈法庭，共谋制造伪证，法庭应该宣布债权人无效，并把luc踢出刑事庭，还要追究检方的责任，废除没收令，重新审判或直接撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q1787ee9388465687898c","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T08:28:27.081Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1787ee9388465687898c"},{"id":"q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T08:46:40.908Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57"},{"id":"q6e3d0baa0fbb17b4f102","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:04:42.737Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e3d0baa0fbb17b4f102"},{"id":"q803b36aeccce3242564a","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:14:48.431Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q803b36aeccce3242564a"},{"id":"q6a6090708c47d8c29b5c","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T09:15:32.296Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a6090708c47d8c29b5c"},{"id":"q6337522c2de15c0ef383","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:16:11.835Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6337522c2de15c0ef383"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T08:46:40.908Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ ［用户 rui***］ 这个就是打Luc的逻辑：作为破产财产受托人不尽责，蓄意维持夸大不实的债权登记和金额叙事，很可能已经严重影响检方、法庭、陪审团，造成本案财产事实不清，造成程序不公，并且稀释真正债权人和第三方财产权益。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bfa6a4c3c3acd5e7b57"}}