{"id":"qf5dfc0cf1dd337446399","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":392,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-12T05:59:58.065Z","text":"Compel要等一两周再发，853主要是对资产所有权提出要求，Cvra主要是针对程序问题。不过现在二巡对这个好像也没那么严格的区分了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q310ec11f5ee4f945ab82","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5dfc0cf1dd337446399","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q310ec11f5ee4f945ab82","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5dfc0cf1dd337446399","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5dfc0cf1dd337446399/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qf5dfc0cf1dd337446399","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qd1075d63eee41dc3621c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-12T05:39:10.043Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1075d63eee41dc3621c"},{"id":"q310ec11f5ee4f945ab82","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-12T05:53:35.385Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q310ec11f5ee4f945ab82"},{"id":"qf2c9bb37563ed2314d63","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-05-12T05:57:12.926Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2c9bb37563ed2314d63"},{"id":"q4e7339841588395090e1","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-12T06:14:29.517Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e7339841588395090e1"},{"id":"q498fb4361a11cf689832","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-12T06:18:15.112Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q498fb4361a11cf689832"},{"id":"q75384c5a9f975e74102c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-12T06:20:04.238Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75384c5a9f975e74102c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q310ec11f5ee4f945ab82","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-05-12T05:53:35.385Z","text":"請問各位老師，我提交了853n 還可以繼續提交CVRA 到南區法院嗎？還是提交motion compel 到二巡？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q310ec11f5ee4f945ab82"}}