{"id":"qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":558,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-29T03:03:03.534Z","text":"如果被告要负责13.8 -6-4 = 3.8 被告要拿出来，对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qf6b41bd233fc1dbc5a79","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q702e897b657fc8cf6e43","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-29T02:58:14.997Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q702e897b657fc8cf6e43"},{"id":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:59:52.260Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c"},{"id":"q7ffc2f345d0a34d13165","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:00:30.063Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ffc2f345d0a34d13165"},{"id":"qe57968c0dcf857794173","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:00.499Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57968c0dcf857794173"},{"id":"q99822faedbd2954a3a01","speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:04.005Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99822faedbd2954a3a01"},{"id":"q41891464bbb3e373198c","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-29T03:05:07.907Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41891464bbb3e373198c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:59:52.260Z","text":"我只是大概算的。目前为止，没有对上账且政府没有任何说明的部分是13.8亿减去没收清单的银行账户里的6个多亿，再减去sec那里的4个多亿后，剩下的部分。您可能是没有搞清楚金钱判决与实际没收的区别。金钱判决，是政府主张被告们诈骗了13.8亿，这是被告们应该负责的金钱责任，穷尽追缴后追不回的部分，可以让被告们赔偿。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c"}}