{"id":"qf75207611c20da0d0431","batch_id":"batch-000143","seq":252,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T02:43:10.000Z","text":"本来853n就不能集体代理\n盖尔难道不懂？\n他的目的，就是最后绕到853i走remission","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ccc45c0be8a59dfbf1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75207611c20da0d0431","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ccc45c0be8a59dfbf1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75207611c20da0d0431","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75207611c20da0d0431/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qf75207611c20da0d0431","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qea7e10d5f3f028c28d55","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-07T02:41:28.029Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea7e10d5f3f028c28d55"},{"id":"qa01199d36c932e73ecba","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-07T02:41:40.221Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa01199d36c932e73ecba"},{"id":"q9356b05a60d521faf4a9","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-07T02:42:48.793Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9356b05a60d521faf4a9"},{"id":"qc526945835576ab5aa68","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T02:44:07.909Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc526945835576ab5aa68"},{"id":"qae247cef65084cba6201","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T02:44:25.727Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae247cef65084cba6201"},{"id":"q6720f9329793e32265bd","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-07T02:46:23.684Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6720f9329793e32265bd"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4ccc45c0be8a59dfbf1b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-07T02:39:36.558Z","text":"这么说跳跃了。因为主张财产权，信托受益权，优先于政府的权利，不能集体代理，集体代理只能代理受害者赔偿这类支持检方叙事后的财产相关主张，所以盖尔要到钱，必然基于郭的定罪被坐实。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ccc45c0be8a59dfbf1b"}}