{"id":"qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":204,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:31:08.315Z","text":"汇到naywind的借贷\n论资金归属，不能被没收\n论资金流向，没有去ACA Capital，到了maywind，也应该被冻结\n和解后投资者，没有收到相应退款，说明未起诉共谋闷钱\n这些都是检方绕不过去的，没量刑前，还好说。要应付这个二巡，检方得卖长岛和魏","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0f87a3d7753202c5ba5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f87a3d7753202c5ba5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qf9774723b33e2f4b10a7","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8cc6dbd9ad30dc4ffe1a","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-04T07:18:51.339Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cc6dbd9ad30dc4ffe1a"},{"id":"qfddc627d1b3572203f93","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-04T07:19:26.646Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfddc627d1b3572203f93"},{"id":"qd7c8733cd823f8e62661","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-04T07:20:31.938Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7c8733cd823f8e62661"},{"id":"qf10987e39692860eb6a7","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-04T07:36:03.360Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf10987e39692860eb6a7"},{"id":"q101859c6b6de46d376b2","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:37:21.187Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101859c6b6de46d376b2"},{"id":"q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:46:57.223Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b02a0bc0441cc573c6"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qc0f87a3d7753202c5ba5","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-04T07:14:33.498Z","text":"其实关于长岛与魏的maywind官司退款，这事有 helen上了二巡，已经可以把没收搅黄了\n1 这部分资产所有权，不属于G集团\n2 借贷已经被定罪量刑，那么这部分maywind涉案资金，不在检方冻结范围，检方要给说法\n3 长岛与魏和解，这部分并未退给投资人，而是谎称继续被冻结\n4 二人作为共谋，不被起诉，流进二人账户的涉案投资款，不被冻结，说明有不起诉协议\n5 长岛不退投资款，继续侵占，是二次犯罪","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f87a3d7753202c5ba5"}}