{"id":"qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":587,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T13:35:35.789Z","text":"对的\n两边一直跳来跳去\n破产案 刑事案 必须放一起看","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qca0e75881803c1131242","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0e75881803c1131242","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qca0e75881803c1131242","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:33:22.360Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0e75881803c1131242"},{"id":"q784be540ba7da0b87d6d","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:33:28.877Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q784be540ba7da0b87d6d"},{"id":"q6cc72273a1996b03575c","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:35:01.788Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc72273a1996b03575c"},{"id":"q627ca8a17356d652d6ff","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T13:37:02.165Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627ca8a17356d652d6ff"},{"id":"qdca002d1f13e623072a1","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:38:49.242Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca002d1f13e623072a1"},{"id":"qe9bfc940f579c4c82ea7","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T13:40:27.404Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9bfc940f579c4c82ea7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qca0e75881803c1131242","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:33:22.360Z","text":"所以总结一下：\n\nAlter ego在破产案成立,但民事Rico Luc要取得资格 必须要借助刑事案；\n刑事案Rico到郭，又必须借助破产案的alter ego。王认罪 》G enterprise包含的几个实体有罪  》破产案的alter ego 郭有罪，破产案可以开始Rico","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0e75881803c1131242"}}