{"id":"qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":435,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-07-29T07:53:16.125Z","text":"我回来了。解答一下后续步骤：\n\n法官在初步没收令上签字发布（刑事诉讼规则32.2(2)(B)：初步没收令应当在量刑以前尽早发布，以便当事方有机会及早提出意见）\n\n老郭的律师提出意见（老郭律师710文件里说老郭“无法表态”，不知道看到716以后态度有什么变化）\n\n如果当事方对初步没收令有意见，法官可以开听证会（刑事诉讼规则32.2(1)(B)\n\n但是法官不需要考虑任何第三方对没收财产的权利主张（规则32.2(2)(A)）\n\n老郭量刑的时候，没收令从初步变成最终（规则32.2(4)(A)）\n\n然后才是政府发布没收通知（参考王雁平，1月6号量刑，政府的没收通知1月7号发出来）\n\n到这里才是瑞恩的动议交上去","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qef8ac6bf7a68fb85964d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef8ac6bf7a68fb85964d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q9e4232c524d05b88b09a","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T07:45:12.564Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e4232c524d05b88b09a"},{"id":"qd195ac1f987cf331ce0c","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T07:45:30.636Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd195ac1f987cf331ce0c"},{"id":"q0035fe15eb070944a6bd","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T07:52:13.194Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0035fe15eb070944a6bd"},{"id":"qd006ae4a5574750c3fb1","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T07:54:11.771Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd006ae4a5574750c3fb1"},{"id":"q01d317773c0c37f85fe9","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T07:54:17.418Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01d317773c0c37f85fe9"},{"id":"qb84e2060140a5c7cec97","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-29T07:54:19.875Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb84e2060140a5c7cec97"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qef8ac6bf7a68fb85964d","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-29T07:43:04.371Z","text":"法官必须先在初步没收令上签字","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef8ac6bf7a68fb85964d"}}