{"id":"qfecbccdf0261e35924eb","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":842,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T14:01:23.289Z","text":"有想过一个问题\n青藤 AVA再王案量刑，不反对检方没收\n庭审检方证人，也是受害人，文乐，陈微，都不反对没收，文乐甚至前不久还在推广要钱的，去走检方登记remission\n陈微，在前几天郭量刑，也没有说反对检方没收","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbcb2b695209d8d4fd8e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecbccdf0261e35924eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbcb2b695209d8d4fd8e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecbccdf0261e35924eb","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecbccdf0261e35924eb/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qfecbccdf0261e35924eb","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q76f2fdaa1a875e43c7e1","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T13:31:40.404Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76f2fdaa1a875e43c7e1"},{"id":"q5bd589812bcd49e7c9b1","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T13:36:43.624Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bd589812bcd49e7c9b1"},{"id":"qe06fb99ccb1d01732717","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T13:49:23.876Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06fb99ccb1d01732717"},{"id":"q9d96910f5802ec80f549","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T14:04:02.368Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d96910f5802ec80f549"},{"id":"q39c04d02869ddff0feaf","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-07-07T14:16:20.346Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c04d02869ddff0feaf"},{"id":"q8fd8f7bf0cc6919c058a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T14:20:19.497Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fd8f7bf0cc6919c058a"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qcbcb2b695209d8d4fd8e","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-07T13:04:02.649Z","text":"我们的投资是信托，你可以写这个反对没收要求走restitution，我写了这个，更多人写更好                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           你自己的法律身份\n\n你对这笔钱的法律主张是：\n\n✔ 金钱不是给郭个人\n✔ 金钱目的明确（G/数字银行/农场）\n✔ 混入资产池\n✔ 被挪去其他地方\n✔ 造成损失\n\n= 最符合 constructive trust\n\nconstructive trust 的最强点是：\n\n权利优先于政府没收\n权利优先于债权人\n权利优先于破产法院\n权利优先于Luc","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbcb2b695209d8d4fd8e"}}