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# Exhibit 39 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT



> 原始法庭文件为英文；下方为英文全文，顶部为中文摘要。

## **Exhibit 39**

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UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT

DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT

BRIDGEPOINT DIVISION

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 Debtors, CHAPTER 11 CASE: 22-50073 (JAM) ---------------------------------------------------X LUC A. DESPINS, CHAPTER 11 TRUSTEE, Plaintiff, -against-GREENWICH LAND, LLC and HING CHI NGOK, Adv Proceeding 23-05005 Defendants. ---------------------------------------------------X VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF EMILE DE NEREE

NEW YORK, NEW YORK

August 24, 2023

REPORTED BY: KIARA MILLER

FILE NO.: 7808

HO WON KWOK, et al.,

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|          | Page 2                                                                   |          | Page 3                                                                   |
| 1        | UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT                                           | 1        | A P P E A R A N C E S:                                                   |
| 2        | DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT                                                  | 2        |                                                                          |
| 3        | BRIDGEPOINT DIVISION                                                     | 3        | ON BEHALF OF LUC A. DESPINS, CHAPTER 11 TRUSTEE:                         |
| 4        | ---------------------------------------------------X                     | 4        | PAUL HASTINGS                                                            |
| 5        | HO WON KWOK, et al.,                                                     |          | 200 Park Avenue                                                          |
|          |                                                                          | 5        | New York, NY 10166                                                       |
| 6        | Debtors, CHAPTER 11                                                      | 6        | EMAIL: nicholasbassett@paulhastings.com                                  |
| 7        | CASE.: 22-50073 (JAM)                                                    | 7        | BY: NICHOLAS BASSETT, ESQ.                                               |
| 8        | --------------------------------------------------X                      | 8<br>9   | ON BEHALF OF DEFENDANTS:                                                 |
| 9        | LUC A. DESPINS, CHAPTER 11 TRUSTEE,                                      | 10       | MEISTER, SEELIG & FEIN, PLLC                                             |
| 10       | Plaintiff,                                                               |          | 125 Park Avenue, 7th Floor                                               |
| 11       | -against                                                                 | 11       | New York, NY 10017                                                       |
| 12       | GREENWICH LAND, LLC and                                                  | 12       | EMAIL: CJM@MSF-LAW.COM                                                   |
| 13       | HING CHI NGOK,                                                           |          | ADK@MSF-LAW.COM                                                          |
| 14       | Defendants.                                                              | 13       |                                                                          |
| 15       | ---------------------------------------------------X                     |          | BY: CHRISTOPHER J. MAJOR, ESQ.                                           |
| 16       |                                                                          | 14       | AUSTIN KIM, ESQ.                                                         |
| 17       | Deposition of EMILE DE NEREE, taken on behalf                            | 15       |                                                                          |
| 18       | of DEFENDANTS, at Remote Location, New York,                             | 16<br>17 |                                                                          |
| 19       | New York, commencing at 10:09 a.m., August 24,                           | 18       | ALSO PRESENT:                                                            |
| 20       | 2023, before Kiara Miller.                                               | 19       | VIDEOGRAPHER, DEANE CARSTENSEN                                           |
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| 1        | VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now on                                              | 1        | plaintiff in this adversary                                              |
| 2        | the record. Today's date is                                              | 2        | proceeding. I am joined by my                                            |
| 3        | August 24, 2023. The time right now                                      | 3        | colleague Luyi Song, also from Paul                                      |
| 4        | is 10:09 a.m. Eastern time. This is                                      | 4        | Hastings.                                                                |
| 5        | the video deposition of Emile de                                         | 5        | MR. MAJOR: Good morning.                                                 |
| 6        | Neree. In the matter of Luc A.                                           | 6        | Chris Major, Meister, Seelig & Fein.                                     |
| 7        | Despins, Chapter 11 Trustee versus                                       | 7        | We represent Hing Chi Ngok and                                           |
| 8        | Greenwich Land, LLC, and Hing Chi                                        | 8        | Greenwich Land, LLC., the defendants                                     |
| 9        | Ngok, filed in the United States                                         | 9        | in this adversary proceeding. And                                        |
| 10       | Bankruptcy Court, District of                                            | 10       | I'm joined by Austin Kim my partner                                      |
| 11       | Connecticut, Bridgepoint Division.                                       | 11       | at Meister, Seelig & Fein.                                               |
| 12       | This deposition is taking place via                                      | 12       | VIDEOGRAPHER: Our court                                                  |
| 13       | web via conference with all                                              | 13       | reporter today is Kiara Miller also                                      |
| 14       | participants attending remotely.                                         | 14       | representing TransPerfect. The                                           |
| 15       | My name is Deane Carstensen.                                             | 15       | court reporter can now swear in the                                      |
| 16       | I'm the videographer representing                                        | 16       | witness and then we may proceed.                                         |
| 17       | TransPerfect today. Will counsel on                                      | 17       | EMILE DE NEREE, after having first been duly sworn                       |
| 18       | the conference please identify                                           | 18       | by a Notary Public of the State of New York, was                         |
| 19       | yourselves and state whom you                                            | 19       | examined and testified as follows:                                       |
| 20       |                                                                          | 20       | COURT REPORTER: Please state                                             |
| 21       | represent, beginning with the                                            | 21       | your name and address for the                                            |
|          | questioning attorney.                                                    | 22       |                                                                          |
| 22       | MR. BASSETT: Good morning,                                               |          | record.                                                                  |
| 23       | everyone. Nick Bassett from Paul                                         | 23       | THE WITNESS: Emile de Neree,                                             |
| 24<br>25 | Hastings on behalf of the Chapter 11<br>Trustee, Luc Despins, who is the | 24<br>25 | D-E, N-E-R-E-E. I'm a realtor with<br>Compass in Greenwich, Connecticut. |

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| 1      | 200 Greenwich Avenue, Greenwich,                    | 1      | question that I ask that you don't                    |
| 2      | Connecticut.                                        | 2      | understand, please let me know. I'm happy             |
| 3      | EXAMINATION BY                                      | 3      | to try to rephrase or clarify, to the best            |
| 4      | MR. BASSETT:                                        | 4      | that I can.                                           |
| 5      | Q<br>Again, by way of introduction,                 | 5      | I'm not sure how long we'll go                        |
| 6      | Mr. de Neree, I'm Nick Bassett. As I said,          | 6      | today, but if at any time you need a break            |
| 7      | I represent Luc Despins as the Chapter 11           | 7      | for any reason, don't hesitate to let us              |
| 8      | Trustee who's the plaintiff in this                 | 8      | know. We want to make sure you're                     |
| 9      | litigation. Thanks again for your time and          | 9      | comfortable and have any breaks that you              |
| 10     | for being here today. We all appreciate it.         | 10     | need. The only thing we will both ask is              |
| 11     | Mr. de Neree, have you had the                      | 11     | that if we have a question that's pending to          |
| 12     | pleasure of sitting for a deposition before,        | 12     | you, that we would just get an answer to              |
| 13     | or is this your first time?                         | 13     | that question before we take a break.                 |
| 14     | A<br>First time.                                    | 14     | There may be some objections by                       |
| 15     | Q<br>Okay. In that case, I'll just                  | 15     | counsel after questions today. Generally              |
| 16     | spend a couple of minutes kind of giving you        | 16     | speaking you can just let the objection be            |
| 17     | the lay of the land in terms of how today's         | 17     | made and then you would still answer the              |
| 18     | going to proceed.                                   | 18     | question after that. You'll kind of see how           |
| 19     | To state the obvious, I will ask                    | 19     | that goes as we get going.                            |
| 20     | you a series of questions. Mr. Major, who's         | 20     | Just for the record, are you alone                    |
| 21     | also here on behalf of the defendants, may          | 21     | in that room today, Mr. de Neree?                     |
| 22     | have questions when I'm done. As you know,          | 22     | A<br>Yes, I am.                                       |
| 23     | based on what just occurred, you're under           | 23     | Q<br>Do you have access to any email or               |
| 24     | oath. So we both ask that you answer our            | 24     | text or anything like that while we're on             |
| 25     | questions truthfully. If there is a                 | 25     | the deposition?                                       |
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| 1      | A<br>Email going back to the issue at               | 1      | Banker at that time and left Coldwell Banker          |
| 2      | hand?                                               | 2      | about a year and a half ago to go to                  |
| 3      | Q<br>No. I just meant like on your                  | 3      | Compass.                                              |
| 4      | screen, your computer screen for example            | 4      | Q<br>When have you say at that time                   |
| 5      | your Outlook up, I would close that out just        | 5<br>6 | what do you mean?                                     |
| 6<br>7 | so there's no issue about whether you're            | 7      | A<br>Meaning from the beginning when I                |
| 8      | receiving communication during the                  | 8      | had my real estate license until a year and           |
| 9      | deposition, that's all?<br>A<br>No, no it's not up. | 9      | a half ago.<br>Q<br>Got it, understood. And as a real |
| 10     | Q<br>Okay, got it. So, Mr. de Neree,                | 10     | estate salesperson, do you represent both             |
| 11     | you are a licensed real estate broker; is           | 11     | buyers and sellers?                                   |
| 12     | that correct?                                       | 12     | A<br>Yes.                                             |
| 13     | A<br>Yes. Salesperson.                              | 13     | Q<br>And if you can just describe for                 |
| 14     | Q<br>Salesperson, okay. Do you                      | 14     | me if you're representing a buyer who's               |
| 15     | primarily focus on selling homes in                 | 15     | looking to purchase a home. Can you just              |
| 16     | Connecticut or is your footprint broader            | 16     | kind of just tell me what are the services            |
| 17     | than that?                                          | 17     | that you provide for them?                            |
| 18     | A<br>No. Connecticut.                               | 18     | A<br>Well, I basically search out a                   |
| 19     | Q<br>How long have you been a real                  | 19     | property that is appropriate for them in              |
| 20     | estate salesperson?                                 | 20     | terms of their budget and preferences.                |
| 21     | A<br>Roughly since 2011, I believe '11              | 21     | Q<br>So the perspective buyer would                   |
| 22     | or '12. It was '11.                                 | 22     | tell you what type of property they're                |
| 23     | Q<br>Okay. Got it, and you work for                 | 23     | looking for and then give you some direction          |
| 24     | Compass; is that right?                             | 24     | as to what to go find for them, you would go          |
| 25     | A<br>I do now. I worked for Coldwell                | 25     | out and do that and report back what you              |

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| 1        | found. Is that generally how it works?                                                | 1        | this. This looks like an assortment of                                                 |
| 2        | A<br>Yes.                                                                             | 2        | sales that I've had over the years.                                                    |
| 3        | Q<br>And I assume typically before a                                                  | 3        | Q<br>That's obviously you and your                                                     |
| 4        | buyer decides to make an offer on the home                                            | 4        | picture there on the first page?                                                       |
| 5        | they may visit the property?                                                          | 5        | A<br>Yes.                                                                              |
| 6        | A<br>Yes.                                                                             | 6        | Q<br>And if you look it says that                                                      |
| 7        | Q<br>Okay. I'll ask my colleague to                                                   | 7        | you're a water front and luxury property                                               |
| 8        | put tab one on the screen or into the chat                                            | 8        | specialist, is that an accurate description                                            |
| 9        | if she could. And, Mr. de Neree, just let                                             | 9        | of how you would describe your real estate                                             |
| 10       | me know once you have that open.                                                      | 10       | practice?                                                                              |
| 11       | A<br>Social media, transactions, yes                                                  | 11       | A<br>Yes.                                                                              |
| 12       | sales.                                                                                | 12       | Q<br>I guess, what does that mean to                                                   |
| 13       | Q<br>So you have the document up?                                                     | 13       | you?                                                                                   |
| 14       | A<br>Yep.                                                                             | 14       | A<br>Well, luxury is obvious. It's not                                                 |
| 15       | Q<br>I'd ask the court reporter please                                                | 15       | low priced homes. And water front is                                                   |
| 16       | mark this document as de Neree Exhibit 1.                                             | 16       | because of my background. I'm a sailor and                                             |
| 17       | (Whereupon, Emile de Neree's                                                          | 17       | I live on the water myself, I live in a                                                |
| 18       | Compass Transactions was marked                                                       | 18       | community of 100 homes all of which are on                                             |
| 19       | as Exhibit 1 for identification                                                       | 19       | the water. So I've had a lot of local                                                  |
| 20       | as of this date.)                                                                     | 20       | transactions within the community and also                                             |
| 21       | Q<br>I believe, Mr. de Neree, this is a                                               | 21       | all over Greenwich and I tend to focus on                                              |
| 22       | profile of yours that we obtained from the                                            | 22       | water front because of my expertise.                                                   |
| 23       | Compass website; does this look familiar to                                           | 23       | Q<br>Understood. And then below it                                                     |
| 24       | you?                                                                                  | 24       | says past sales and it lists a bunch of                                                |
| 25       | A<br>No. I've never actually seen                                                     | 25       | properties. Are these properties that                                                  |
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| 1        | you've sold, bought, both, just trying to                                             | 1        | A<br>Yeah. I only know him by Miles.                                                   |
| 2        | understand what that means?                                                           | 2        | Q<br>But if I say Ho Won Kwok, you'll                                                  |
| 3        | A<br>It is a combination of both. Not                                                 | 3<br>4   | understand now Miles to be Ho Won Kwok, who                                            |
| 4<br>5   | just where I was on the sale side, but I                                              | 5        | is the Chapter 11 debtor in this case,                                                 |
| 6        | believe it was some definitely here on the                                            | 6        | correct?<br>A<br>Yeah. I understand. And also                                          |
| 7        | buy side, it's a combination of both, yes.<br>Q<br>The second property is 323 Taconic | 7        | from social media that he went by several                                              |
| 8        | Road in Greenwich, which is a property that                                           | 8        | names. I was only aware of one, Miles.                                                 |
| 9        | we'll be talking more about today. I'll                                               | 9        | Q<br>Understood. I'll go ahead and                                                     |
| 10       | just ask you, did that property actually                                              | 10       | refer to him as Miles today, then.                                                     |
| 11       | sell for the \$7.495 million?                                                         | 11       | Did you at some point develop a                                                        |
| 12       | A<br>No. It did not.                                                                  | 12       | professional relationship with Miles?                                                  |
| 13       | Q<br>Are some of these list prices                                                    | 13       | A<br>Yes.                                                                              |
| 14       | instead of --                                                                         | 14       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                          |
| 15       | A<br>Those are probably original list                                                 | 15       | Q<br>Can you describe that relationship                                                |
| 16       | prices.                                                                               | 16       | to me?                                                                                 |
| 17       | Q<br>Understood, okay.                                                                | 17       | A<br>I'm sorry.                                                                        |
| 18       | A<br>Not even necessarily the list                                                    | 18       | Q<br>Would you please describe that                                                    |
| 19       | price at the time of the transaction.                                                 | 19       | relationship?                                                                          |
| 20       | Q<br>Got it, got it. So are you,                                                      | 20       | A<br>Was that an objection?                                                            |
| 21       | turning to the matter at hand, if you will,                                           | 21       | Q<br>Yes. Mr. Major said objection to                                                  |
| 22       | are you familiar with, Mr. de Neree, with a                                           | 22       | form, which is an objection you may hear                                               |
| 23       | person named Ho Won Kwok who is the debtor                                            | 23       | more than once today. And as I said before,                                            |
| 24<br>25 | in this Chapter 11 case who has otherwise<br>gone by Miles Kwok or Miles Guo?         | 24<br>25 | that's something that the lawyers will deal<br>with later. For your purposes, you just |

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| 1  | answer the question.                         | 1  | actually not with Miles, but Max first, was  |
| 2  | A<br>I see. Understood. What was your        | 2  | around October of 2018 and the ultimate      |
| 3  | question again quickly?                      | 3  | transaction of this property we're talking   |
| 4  | Q<br>The question was just whether you       | 4  | about didn't take place until February       |
| 5  | could please describe for me the nature of   | 5  | of 2000.                                     |
| 6  | that relationship with Miles?                | 6  | Q<br>Understood. And do you have some        |
| 7  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 7  | documents there with you Mr. de Neree?       |
| 8  | A<br>I showed him several properties         | 8  | A<br>I do have some, yeah.                   |
| 9  | over about a one and a half year period.     | 9  | Q<br>Can you just let me know the            |
| 10 | And he would tell me what he liked, what he  | 10 | document that you were just looking at. Is   |
| 11 | didn't like, then there would be followup    | 11 | that --                                      |
| 12 | from his assistant, Max Krasner, about       | 12 | A<br>Well, one document -- just for          |
| 13 | details if he wanted to see more, what he    | 13 | clarification, I do not have any emails      |
| 14 | liked a lot, what he didn't like as much.    | 14 | because my email account was taken away from |
| 15 | He would sort of give me more feedback, if   | 15 | me. Except for the important documents that  |
| 16 | you will. And then I would set up other      | 16 | I would have made hard copy of from my file  |
| 17 | showings as they came available, in other    | 17 | because I was doing that at the time, I      |
| 18 | words as properties were listed and I        | 18 | don't have every email. I have, I was able   |
| 19 | thought he would be interested in them, I    | 19 | to reconstruct some of my texts, but I don't |
| 20 | would show those properties.                 | 20 | have emails and really all I have is some    |
| 21 | Q<br>Thank you. So you said that this        | 21 | key documents, like offer to purchase,       |
| 22 | was over, I believe approximately one year   | 22 | exclusive right to represent the buyer and   |
| 23 | period or was it longer than that?           | 23 | accepted offer on this property and          |
| 24 | A<br>It was a bit longer than that. I        | 24 | ultimately the contract to purchase real     |
| 25 | believe my first communication with Max,     | 25 | estate, which is the closing document. I     |
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| 1  | have some documents regarding the inspection | 1  | said I have a client who's interested in     |
| 2  | of the property during the week that this    | 2  | looking at some properties, I understand you |
| 3  | took place and that's about it. And I have   | 3  | have water front experience. He likes the    |
| 4  | a nondisclosure confidentiality agreement    | 4  | idea of water front, he has a big boat, he   |
| 5  | that I signed around that date and that      | 5  | would like to live on the water in           |
| 6  | would have been one of the first sort of     | 6  | Greenwich. What can you show us. And I       |
| 7  | actions, that's why I refer to October 22,   | 7  | went through a bunch of things and I said I  |
| 8  | 2018.                                        | 8  | could show this, this and this, but there    |
| 9  | Q<br>Understood, okay. So I'm going to       | 9  |                                              |
| 10 |                                              |    | wasn't much water front available at that    |
| 11 | show you some documents today, some          | 10 | time so we ended up looking at other         |
|    | additional documents today. And I think      | 11 | properties also. So that's how the           |
| 12 | once I've done that and finished that I may  | 12 | relationship got started.                    |
| 13 | ask you if there are any other documents you | 13 | Q<br>So Mr. Krasner said he -- that          |
| 14 | have there that we have not shown, I think   | 14 | Miles was wanting to find a home for himself |
| 15 | we'll proceed that way. And then we may ask  | 15 | in Connecticut, in Greenwich?                |
| 16 | that those documents to be provided to us if | 16 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 17 | they have not been already.                  | 17 | A<br>Correct that's what he said, yes.       |
| 18 | A<br>Okay.                                   | 18 | Q<br>Okay. So you understood that            |
| 19 | Q<br>So you said the relationship began      | 19 | whatever property you might find it would be |
| 20 | around roughly October 2018, that's your     | 20 | one for Miles?                               |
| 21 | recollection?                                | 21 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 22 | A<br>Yes.                                    | 22 | A<br>Correct.                                |
| 23 | Q<br>How did you first come in contact       | 23 | Q<br>I'd like my colleague to show           |
| 24 | with the Miles?                              | 24 | Tab 2, please?                               |
| 25 | A<br>Max called me, asked for me and         | 25 | A<br>Yeah, that's the one I was              |

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| 1        | referring to, it's called Exclusive Right to                                           | 1        | Q<br>And the buyer in the first line is                                 |
| 2        | Represent Buyer Agreement.                                                             | 2        | listed as Hudson Diamond. Do you have any                               |
| 3        | Q<br>Thank you.                                                                        | 3        | understanding of who or what Hudson Diamond                             |
| 4        | MR. BASSETT: Just give me a                                                            | 4        | is?                                                                     |
| 5        | moment. I'd like the court reporter                                                    | 5        | A<br>No. I was told by Max that this                                    |
| 6        | to please mark this document as de                                                     | 6        | is one of the companies that they owned,                                |
| 7        | Neree Exhibit 2.                                                                       | 7        | that's all.                                                             |
| 8        | (Whereupon, Exclusive Right to                                                         | 8        | Q<br>When you say they owned, what do                                   |
| 9        | Represent Buyer Agreement                                                              | 9        | you mean?                                                               |
| 10       | (GREE002323) was marked as                                                             | 10       | A<br>Miles, that Miles owned.                                           |
| 11       | Exhibit 2 for identification as                                                        | 11       | Q<br>Okay.                                                              |
| 12       | of this date.)                                                                         | 12       | A<br>Yes, that's what I was told at the                                 |
| 13       | Q<br>And just for the record, this                                                     | 13       | time, I'm just looking at the signature line                            |
| 14       | document is Bates labeled at the bottom of                                             | 14       | cause I can't remember, it basically says                               |
| 15       | the first page GREE002323.                                                             | 15       | Hudson Diamond and an unrecognizable name.                              |
| 16       | A<br>Yeah.                                                                             | 16       | You know, there was an addendum to this. I                              |
| 17       | Q<br>So this is the exclusive right to                                                 | 17       | don't know if you have that.                                            |
| 18       | represent buyer agreement. Is this a                                                   | 18       | Q<br>When you say addendum, is that in                                  |
| 19       | standard agreement that you would execute                                              | 19       | paragraph two where it says, "See Exhibit A                             |
| 20       | with a perspective buyer of property who is                                            | 20       | attached hereto"?                                                       |
| 21       | retaining you for your services?                                                       | 21       | A<br>Yeah.                                                              |
| 22       | A<br>Yes.                                                                              | 22       | Q<br>We do not have that, to my                                         |
| 23       | Q<br>And the agreement is dated                                                        | 23       | knowledge. If you happen to have that,                                  |
| 24       | January 13, 2019. Do you see that?                                                     | 24       | that's another document.                                                |
| 25       | A<br>Yeah.                                                                             | 25       | A<br>The reason why is this. Because                                    |
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| 1        | they crossed out a whole section about                                                 | 1        | owned by Miles, correct?                                                |
| 2        | compensation, the whole thing. And it                                                  | 2        | A<br>Correct.                                                           |
| 3        | became rather narrow. And they said, we                                                | 3        | Q<br>I think you also had testified                                     |
| 4        | will only compensate you for properties that                                           | 4        | that Mr. Krasner had reached out to you in                              |
| 5        | you have shown Miles.                                                                  | 5        | order to find a property for Miles.                                     |
| 6        | So I submitted a list of five                                                          | 6        | So my question is, I guess, how do                                      |
| 7        | properties or four or five properties. And                                             | 7        | you sort of -- is it your understanding that                            |
| 8        | subsequently asked to have a few more added,                                           | 8        | Miles was going to use Hudson Diamond to                                |
| 9        | which I had also shown him, but they never                                             | 9        | acquire the property for him? Is that the                               |
| 10       | added it to the exhibit. But the properties                                            | 10       | relationship between the two? I'm just                                  |
| 11       | were 125 Pecksland Road, which was the first                                           | 11       | trying to understand.                                                   |
| 12       | one I showed him. 586 Roundhill Road. 373                                              | 12       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                           |
| 13       | Taconic, which is the subject property.                                                | 13<br>14 | A<br>No. I had no assumption like that                                  |
| 14       | Private island on Connecticut Gold Coast.                                              | 15       | because I was under the impression that he                              |
| 15<br>16 | Wallacks Point was the actual address. And                                             | 16       | owned many different companies, and I had no                            |
| 17       | any additional properties in Connecticut<br>that Coldwell Banker presents to buyer and | 17       | idea in which way he was going to purchase<br>the property at the time. |
| 18       | buyer agrees to view.                                                                  | 18       | Q<br>Understood.                                                        |
| 19       | So he added this for my                                                                | 19       | A<br>I was just representing Miles.                                     |
| 20       | protection, call it, so that I would be                                                | 20       | And I hoped that this Hudson Diamond was a                              |
| 21       | covered under this agreement.                                                          | 21       | legitimate company. I did not research it                               |
| 22       | Q<br>Okay. Understood.                                                                 | 22       | or anything like that. I was, at the time,                              |
| 23       | And back to Hudson Diamond. So I                                                       | 23       | just hoping that he would have an interest                              |
| 24       | think what you just testified was that you                                             | 24       | in one of those properties and proceed.                                 |
| 25       | were told by Mr. Krasner, that was an entity                                           | 25       | Q<br>As a real estate salesperson, in                                   |

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| 1        | your experience, have you seen scenarios                                                 | 1        | Q<br>I was going to ask you if you had                                                |
| 2        | where an individual will use a company or an                                             | 2        | any understanding of what that signifies?                                             |
| 3        | LLC to acquire a property?                                                               | 3        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                         |
| 4        | A<br>Yes. Many times.                                                                    | 4        | A<br>I mean, I knew Miles by his first                                                |
| 5        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                            | 5        | name, so I did not notice it before. But,                                             |
| 6        | Q<br>Is that what happened here?                                                         | 6        | yeah, that would have meant for me that this                                          |
| 7        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                            | 7        | was, in fact, for Miles.                                                              |
| 8        | A<br>Yes. It happened here.                                                              | 8        | Q<br>Understood. Back to the                                                          |
| 9        | Q<br>So you spoke a little bit about                                                     | 9        | compensation provision that you mentioned, I                                          |
| 10       | the compensation -- I guess, actually before                                             | 10       | was going to ask you why that was crossed                                             |
| 11       | I go to that. At the bottom, if you look at                                              | 11       | out. So thanks for that explanation.                                                  |
| 12       | the bottom right-hand corner of each page of                                             | 12       | As to the properties that you did                                                     |
| 13       | this agreement, it says, underneath buyer's                                              | 13       | show, how was it agreed that you would be                                             |
| 14       | initials, in all caps, Miles Guo.                                                        | 14       | compensated?                                                                          |
| 15       | Do you see that?                                                                         | 15       | A<br>There is no promise of                                                           |
| 16       | It's small. You may have to zoom                                                         | 16       | compensation for any showings I do,                                                   |
| 17       | in.                                                                                      | 17       | regardless of how man, short of a sale. I                                             |
| 18       | A<br>I'm sorry, where do you say you                                                     | 18       | can only be compensated in the case of a                                              |
| 19       | see this?                                                                                | 19       | sale.                                                                                 |
| 20       | Q<br>The bottom right-hand corner of                                                     | 20       | Q<br>Okay. And in the case of a sale,                                                 |
| 21       | every page of this. If you --                                                            | 21       | you would, of course, receive a commission;                                           |
| 22       | A<br>Yeah. I see it now. I never saw                                                     | 22       | is that right?                                                                        |
| 23       | it before. Let me make sure it's on the                                                  | 23       | A<br>Correct.                                                                         |
| 24       | original. Yes. It is on the original. I                                                  | 24       | Q<br>Understood. If you look at the                                                   |
| 25       | never saw that before. Yes.                                                              | 25       | part where it says buyer's obligations,                                               |
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| 1        | that's paragraph six. I wanted to ask you a                                              | 1        | Q<br>My question for you is: Did you                                                  |
| 2        | couple of questions about that.                                                          | 2        | ever receive, in connection with this                                                 |
| 3        | A<br>Yeah. Paragraph six you said?                                                       | 3        | engagement, any of the information                                                    |
| 4        | Q<br>That's correct. And I think,                                                        | 4        | referenced here concerning buyer's needs and                                          |
| 5        | Mr. de Neree, as difficult as it might be, I                                             | 5        | qualifications, including personal,                                                   |
| 6<br>7   | think for the record, if you can just try to                                             | 6<br>7   | financial and confidential information?                                               |
| 8        | use the one on your screen, zooming in if                                                | 8        | A<br>Not really. No. I mean, it                                                       |
| 9        | possible, that way there's no -- I don't<br>want there to be any ambiguity about whether | 9        | was -- very few details were given to me.<br>Other than what he liked, what he didn't |
| 10       | we're looking at the exact same document.                                                | 10       | like, maybe why he didn't like it and that                                            |
| 11       | A<br>No. We're looking at the exact                                                      | 11       | was it.                                                                               |
| 12       | same document. And this is standard, call                                                | 12       | Q<br>So you didn't receive any                                                        |
| 13       | it Coldwell Banker standard document.                                                    | 13       | information regarding Miles' financial --                                             |
| 14       | Q<br>Understood. And I just want to                                                      | 14       | A<br>No.                                                                              |
| 15       | ask you a couple of quick questions about                                                | 15       | Q<br>-- situation?                                                                    |
| 16       | it.                                                                                      | 16       | A<br>No. Never.                                                                       |
| 17       | So the first line in that says,                                                          | 17       | Q<br>The next line talks about buyer                                                  |
| 18       | well, it says, "Buyer's obligations: A,                                                  | 18       | being obligated to pay for out-of-pocket                                              |
| 19       | buyer will cooperate with Coldwell Banker;                                               | 19       | expenses.                                                                             |
| 20       | one, by providing all information necessary                                              | 20       | Do you see that?                                                                      |
| 21       | to evaluate buyer's needs and                                                            | 21       | A<br>Correct.                                                                         |
| 22       | qualifications, including personal,                                                      | 22       | Q<br>Were there any out-of-pocket                                                     |
| 23       | financial and confidential information."                                                 | 23       | expenses that you incurred in the engagement                                          |
| 24<br>25 | Do you see that?<br>A<br>Yes.                                                            | 24<br>25 | that the buyer paid for?<br>A<br>No. He paid directly for the                         |

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| 1      | inspection. And I believe those were the                                             | 1      | A<br>Yes.                                                |  |
| 2      | only out-of-pocket expenses incurred. And                                            | 2      | Q<br>Did you ever communicate with                       |  |
| 3      | so, no, I did not.                                                                   | 3      | Miles himself?                                           |  |
| 4      | Q<br>Okay. Did this agreement ever                                                   | 4      | A<br>No. Not via email or text. I                        |  |
| 5      | terminate at any time? Did it terminate                                              | 5      | didn't have his phone number, nor an email               |  |
| 6      | upon a transaction, is it still open?                                                | 6      | address. So, no, all communication was with              |  |
| 7      | A<br>On this particular document, there                                              | 7      | Max, with the exception of communication I               |  |
| 8      | was no term limit. Which, again, you know,                                           | 8      | had with him at the properties.                          |  |
| 9      | probably I could have nailed them, but at                                            | 9      | Q<br>So you met Miles in person when                     |  |
| 10     | the time, that wasn't my concern. I was                                              | 10     | showing properties?                                      |  |
| 11     | just hoping to find something that they                                              | 11     | A<br>Yes.                                                |  |
| 12     | would like and would be interested in                                                | 12     | Q<br>We'll get to that in a little bit                   |  |
| 13     | buying.                                                                              | 13     | more detail in a moment.                                 |  |
| 14     | So, no, there's no limit to this.                                                    | 14     | I'd like my colleague to put up                          |  |
| 15     | It says term here. It's not filled in.                                               | 15     | tab three.                                               |  |
| 16     | Q<br>Okay. And did you ever enter into                                               | 16     | A<br>Yes. Got it.                                        |  |
| 17     | any other agreement like this one with                                               | 17     | Q<br>Thank you.                                          |  |
| 18     | another entity related to Miles?                                                     | 18     | (Whereupon, Text Messages was                            |  |
| 19     | MR. KIM: Object to the form.                                                         | 19     | marked as Exhibit 3 for                                  |  |
| 20     | A<br>No. I did not.                                                                  | 20     | identification as of this date.)                         |  |
| 21     | Q<br>I believe you said you were                                                     | 21     | MR. BASSETT: I'd like the                                |  |
| 22     | originally approached by Mr. Krasner about                                           | 22     | court reporter to please mark this                       |  |
| 23     | this engagement. Was Mr. Krasner the person                                          | 23     | as de Neree Exhibit 3, please.                           |  |
| 24     | you most often communicated with concerning                                          | 24     | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, I understand the                      |  |
| 25     | this engagement?                                                                     | 25     | document that has just been marked as                    |  |
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| 1      | Exhibit 3 shows your text images.                                                    | 1      | some that are kind of aligned more in the                |  |
| 2      | Is that your understanding?                                                          | 2      | middle. Do you know what it is --                        |  |
| 3      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                        | 3      | A<br>Yeah. So what's on the left is                      |  |
| 4      | A<br>Yes.                                                                            | 4      | Max, and what is on the right is me.                     |  |
| 5      | Q<br>And where did you obtain -- is                                                  | 5      | Q<br>Okay. So on the left-hand page,                     |  |
| 6      | this a document that you, to your                                                    | 6      | these are messages sent to you by                        |  |
| 7<br>8 | recollection, had produced to the Trustee in                                         | 7<br>8 | Mr. Krasner?                                             |  |
| 9      | response to our subpoena in this case?                                               | 9      | A<br>Correct.                                            |  |
| 10     | A<br>Yes.                                                                            | 10     | Q<br>And the ones that are oriented                      |  |
| 11     | Q<br>And where did you get this                                                      | 11     | toward the middle, those are your messages               |  |
| 12     | document?                                                                            | 12     | to Mr. Krasner?                                          |  |
| 13     | A<br>From my phone. Actually, I'm not                                                | 13     | A<br>Correct.<br>Q<br>Is that true for this entire       |  |
| 14     | sure it was the phone. It could have been                                            | 14     |                                                          |  |
| 15     | the computer. But in either case, it's text                                          | 15     | document? If you go through all of them, I               |  |
| 16     | messages that came in, because my Mac also                                           | 16     | don't know how many pages there are here.                |  |
| 17     | shows text messages. I can't remember<br>whether it was printed from the computer or | 17     | A<br>Yes. Yes, it is.<br>Q<br>This consists only of text |  |
| 18     | from the phone.                                                                      | 18     | messages between you and Mr. Krasner, with               |  |
| 19     | Q<br>At the top, it says, iMessage. So                                               | 19     | Mr. Krasner on the left, and yours more to               |  |
| 20     | to be more accurate, would this be iMessages                                         | 20     | the middle?                                              |  |
| 21     | using an Apple device?                                                               | 21     | A<br>Yes.                                                |  |
| 22     | A<br>Correct.                                                                        | 22     | MR. MAJOR: Object to the                                 |  |
| 23     | Q<br>Can you just try to orient me. It                                               | 23     | form.                                                    |  |
| 24     | looks like there are some messages that are                                          | 24     | Mr. de Neree, if I could ask                             |  |
| 25     | aligned on the left-hand side of page and                                            | 25     | you to please allow some time for me                     |  |

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| 1        | to the object before you answer                                                           | 1        | aware of any other text messages you had                           |  |
| 2        | questions. I know this is an                                                              | 2        | with Mr. Krasner that are not shown here?                          |  |
| 3        | unnatural setting. And in                                                                 | 3        | A<br>No.                                                           |  |
| 4        | conversation it's often custom to                                                         | 4        | Q<br>And that's true before, you don't                             |  |
| 5        | respond to someone before they                                                            | 5        | recall having any text with him before                             |  |
| 6        | finish their question. But if you                                                         | 6        | November 5, 2018?                                                  |  |
| 7        | could please let Mr. Bassett finish                                                       | 7        | A<br>Correct.                                                      |  |
| 8        | his question and pause for just a                                                         | 8        | Q<br>And then just to be clear, no text                            |  |
| 9        | moment, in case I have an objection                                                       | 9        | after August 23, 2022?                                             |  |
| 10       | to put in for the court reporter.                                                         | 10       | A<br>Correct.                                                      |  |
| 11       | Thank you.                                                                                | 11       | Q<br>And, again, just so we're totally                             |  |
| 12       | THE WITNESS: Absolutely.                                                                  | 12       | clear, and to best of your knowledge,                              |  |
| 13       | Thank you.                                                                                | 13       | between November 5, 2018 and                                       |  |
| 14       | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, at the very top, it                                                    | 14       | August 23, 2022, you aren't aware of any                           |  |
| 15       | says, November 5, 2018.                                                                   | 15       | other text messages with him that are not                          |  |
| 16       | Do you see that?                                                                          | 16       | included in the document?                                          |  |
| 17       | A<br>Yes.                                                                                 | 17       | A<br>Correct.                                                      |  |
| 18       | Q<br>And then if you go to the very end                                                   | 18       | Q<br>Thank you. And you also said that                             |  |
| 19       | of the document, the last message, as far as                                              | 19       | you no longer have access to your emails; is                       |  |
| 20       | I can tell, and you correct me if I'm wrong,                                              | 20       | that correct?                                                      |  |
| 21       | is dated Tuesday, August 23, 2022.                                                        | 21       | A<br>Correct.                                                      |  |
| 22       | Is that your understanding?                                                               | 22       | Q<br>Can you just explain this a little                            |  |
| 23       | A<br>Yes.                                                                                 | 23       | bit more detail -- strike that.                                    |  |
| 24       | Q<br>So outside of the text messages                                                      | 24       | Before asking that question. Did                                   |  |
| 25       | that are shown in this document, are you                                                  | 25       | you have email communications with                                 |  |
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| 1<br>2   | Mr. Krasner?                                                                              | 1<br>2   | that, that would have gone via email. But                          |  |
| 3        | A<br>Yes.<br>Q<br>Did you have email communications                                       | 3        | the majority of the communication was on the<br>telephone or text. |  |
| 4        | with anyone other than Mr. Krasner whom you                                               | 4        | Q<br>Understood. And when you say you                              |  |
| 5        | understood to be acting on behalf of Miles?                                               | 5        | don't have access to these emails any                              |  |
| 6        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             | 6        | longer, what does that mean exactly?                               |  |
| 7        | A<br>No.                                                                                  | 7        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                      |  |
| 8        | Q<br>Do you have an approximate                                                           | 8        | A<br>When I left Coldwell Banker, they                             |  |
| 9        | understanding of what the date range would                                                | 9        | literally froze my email account the same                          |  |
| 10       | have been for these emails that you had with                                              | 10       | day, and I had no access to those emails. I                        |  |
| 11       | Mr. Krasner, would it have been similar to                                                | 11       | did contact the legal department of Coldwell                       |  |
| 12       | these text messages?                                                                      | 12       | Banker after I was first made aware that I                         |  |
| 13       | A<br>Yes.                                                                                 | 13       | might have to be deposed. And they said,                           |  |
| 14       | Q<br>What's the approximate volume of                                                     | 14       | yeah, they're gone. And it was well                                |  |
| 15       | emails that you may have had with                                                         | 15       | after -- it was much more than a year after                        |  |
| 16       | Mr. Krasner?                                                                              | 16       | I left. And they said, you know, we                                |  |
| 17       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                             | 17       | generally get rid of them after nine months                        |  |
| 18       | A<br>I generally used emails only to                                                      | 18       | or so.                                                             |  |
| 19       | send potential properties, to alert upcoming                                              | 19       | But he did say that Coldwell                                       |  |
| 20       | open houses or appointments, but all the                                                  | 20       | Banker had supplied whatever documents they                        |  |
| 21       | details were generally covered in text.                                                   | 21       | had in the file with regards to the                                |  |
| 22       | And so if he sent me something                                                            | 22       | transaction, the official documents, in                            |  |
| 23       | like a signed document of some sort, like                                                 | 23       | other words, that I would have had and they                        |  |
| 24<br>25 | the ones you have shown, exclusive right to<br>represent, and the exhibit and things like | 24<br>25 | would have had.<br>Q<br>Understood. So focusing back to            |  |

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| 1        | Exhibit 3, the text message that you sent on                                    | 1      | if Miles has an interest in seeing any of                                                   |  |  |
| 2        | November 5, 2018. It says here that:                                            | 2      | the listings, is that generally consistent                                                  |  |  |
| 3        | "I am still waiting to get info on                                              | 3      | with what you said before, that Mr. Krasner                                                 |  |  |
| 4        | other properties that may be perfect for                                        | 4      | was acting on Miles' behalf in this process?                                                |  |  |
| 5        | Miles but are not currently on the market."                                     | 5      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                               |  |  |
| 6        | Do you see that?                                                                | 6      | A<br>Yes.                                                                                   |  |  |
| 7        | A<br>Correct. Yes, I see that.                                                  | 7      | Q<br>And then in the next text message                                                      |  |  |
| 8        | Q<br>And then you say:                                                          | 8      | you say, and this is January 12, 2019, you                                                  |  |  |
| 9        | "I will get back as soon as I hear                                              | 9      | say:                                                                                        |  |  |
| 10       | more. In the meantime, does Miles have an                                       | 10     | "Max, we are confirmed for noon at                                                          |  |  |
| 11       | interest in seeing any of the listings that                                     | 11     | 125 Pecksland. Still working on others."                                                    |  |  |
| 12       | I sent you last week."                                                          | 12     | He responds and says: "Okay.                                                                |  |  |
| 13       | Do you see that?                                                                | 13     | Thanks." And then in the next message from                                                  |  |  |
| 14       | A<br>Yes.                                                                       | 14     | Mr. Krasner on January 12, it says, driver                                                  |  |  |
| 15       | Q<br>First of all, those listings that                                          | 15     | name is Warren, there's a phone number. And                                                 |  |  |
| 16       | you sent last week, those would have been                                       | 16     | then it says, "They will meet you at 125                                                    |  |  |
| 17       | maybe listings that you sent via email?                                         | 17     | Pecksland Road at noon."                                                                    |  |  |
| 18       | A<br>Yes. They would have come from                                             | 18     | Do you see that?                                                                            |  |  |
| 19       | the MLS. There is an email function in the                                      | 19     | A<br>Yes.                                                                                   |  |  |
| 20       | MLS that allows you to send properties as an                                    | 20     | Q<br>I gather from this, correct me if                                                      |  |  |
| 21       | attachment, which are then openable and                                         | 21     | I'm wrong, that 125 Pecksland Road was one                                                  |  |  |
| 22       | reviewable by the clients, with all the                                         | 22     | of the properties you were showing Miles?                                                   |  |  |
| 23       | details of the listing.                                                         | 23     | A<br>Yes.                                                                                   |  |  |
| 24       | Q<br>Got it. And this message that you                                          | 24     | Q<br>Was there a meeting that occurred                                                      |  |  |
| 25       | sent here, where you're asking Mr. Krasner                                      | 25     | at that property?                                                                           |  |  |
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| 1        | A<br>Yes.                                                                       | 1      | know.                                                                                       |  |  |
| 2        | Q<br>And this -- this message was dated                                         | 2      | Q<br>Okay. The meeting whenever it                                                          |  |  |
| 3        | January 12, 2019, do you know when the                                          | 3      | occurred, I think you already said this, but                                                |  |  |
| 4        | meeting occurred?                                                               | 4      | Miles was present?                                                                          |  |  |
| 5        | A<br>Probably January 12, but I would                                           | 5      | A<br>Yes.                                                                                   |  |  |
| 6        | have to look up to see if that was a                                            | 6      | Q<br>Did you look at just the 125                                                           |  |  |
| 7        | Saturday or -- or -- but -- but from the                                        | 7      | Pecksland Road property or did you look at                                                  |  |  |
| 8<br>9   | text messages I would -- I would say it                                         | 8<br>9 | more properties?                                                                            |  |  |
| 10       | happened on January 12, because that's the                                      | 10     | A<br>I don't recollect the dates and so                                                     |  |  |
| 11       | morning where he confirmed that Miles was                                       | 11     | forth, and so on of each individual showing.                                                |  |  |
| 12       | going to look at the properties and that the                                    | 12     | It's possible I would have shown him one or                                                 |  |  |
|          | name of the driver was Warren. And his cell                                     | 13     | two more that day, but the one that sticks                                                  |  |  |
| 13<br>14 | phone number in case I needed to get a hold                                     | 14     | in my mind is the Pecksland property. If I                                                  |  |  |
| 15       | of him for a reason. But that was                                               | 15     | look at my -- at the list of properties that<br>I did show him over time; it was 125        |  |  |
| 16       | definitely the first time I met Miles.                                          | 16     |                                                                                             |  |  |
| 17       | Q<br>Okay. And -- and as you look<br>forward, and I'll get to this in a second, | 17     | Pecksland, 586 Round Hill, and 373 Taconic.<br>Those technically could have been around the |  |  |
| 18       | but the January 14, 2019 text messages says,                                    | 18     | same time or even on the same date.                                                         |  |  |
| 19       | "Miles left his sunglasses in," it says                                         | 19     | But I -- I don't have a strong                                                              |  |  |
| 20       | "bone." But I think he corrected that to                                        | 20     | memory of exactly which property I showed                                                   |  |  |
| 21       | say, "one, of the properties yesterday."                                        | 21     | out on that -- on that day.                                                                 |  |  |
| 22       | If that's the January 14 and it                                                 | 22     | Q<br>Understood. Can you just describe                                                      |  |  |
| 23       | refers to yesterday, would that suggest that                                    | 23     | for me what you recall about your                                                           |  |  |
| 24       | the meeting was on January 13th?                                                | 24     | interactions with Miles on that day during                                                  |  |  |
| 25       | A<br>I don't know. I can't -- I don't                                           | 25     | those visits?                                                                               |  |  |

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| 1     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   | 1  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                  |  |
| 2     | A<br>He would go into each room and             | 2  | A<br>Miles.                                                    |  |
| 3     | view it like anyone else, and would make        | 3  | Q<br>So you're understanding was that                          |  |
| 4     | comments as to what he liked about it or        | 4  | Miles would ultimately be making the                           |  |
| 5     | didn't like about it. And as I said, I          | 5  | decision?                                                      |  |
| 6     | would then subsequently get more feedback       | 6  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                  |  |
| 7     | from Max as to, you know, what he liked and     | 7  | A<br>Yes.                                                      |  |
| 8     | why, or didn't like and why.                    | 8  | Q<br>The text message says:                                    |  |
| 9     | Q<br>And did Miles ask you any                  | 9  | "Miles left his sunglasses in one                              |  |
| 10    | questions at any point?                         | 10 | of the properties yesterday. He will pick                      |  |
| 11    | A<br>Yes.                                       | 11 | them up."                                                      |  |
| 12    | Q<br>What types of questions?                   | 12 | It goes on:                                                    |  |
| 13    | A<br>About the property. In almost              | 13 | "Let me know if the glasses are                                |  |
| 14    | every case there was a listing agent            | 14 | found, he'll pick them up next time."                          |  |
| 15    | present. So if he asked me a question and I     | 15 | Do you see that?                                               |  |
| 16    | didn't know the answer, I would ask the         | 16 | A<br>Yes.                                                      |  |
| 17    | listing agent and give Miles the answer.        | 17 | Q<br>So just to confirm, I -- does that                        |  |
| 18    | Q<br>Okay. And what language was Miles          | 18 | refresh your recollection that there were,                     |  |
| 19    | speaking during these conversations?            | 19 | in fact, multiple properties that would have                   |  |
| 20    | A<br>English.                                   | 20 | been shown at that time?                                       |  |
| 21    | Q<br>And based on these interactions,           | 21 | A<br>Yes.                                                      |  |
| 22    | what was your -- did you ever come to gain      | 22 | Q<br>And then the January 14, 2019 text                        |  |
| 23    | an impression as to who would ultimately be     | 23 | message, that's the next one below that,                       |  |
| 24    | making the decision as to whether or not to     | 24 | that Mr. Krasner sent to you says, "Offer                      |  |
| 25    | make an offer on a property?                    | 25 | 4 million on Taconic Road. I confirmed."                       |  |
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| 2     | Do you see that?                                | 2  | document, at the top there's a January 19,                     |  |
| 3     | A<br>Yes.<br>Q<br>And "on Taconic road," do you | 3  | 2019 text message. It says:<br>"Emile, as we discussed, please |  |
| 4     | understand that to be a reference to the 373    | 4  | respectfully explain to the owners our                         |  |
| 5     | Taconic Road property?                          | 5  | situation. Miles said that it was a                            |  |
| 6     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   | 6  | pleasure to meet such a nice family. Time                      |  |
| 7     | A<br>Yes.                                       | 7  | is of the essence and we are proposing the                     |  |
| 8     | Q<br>Did you ever show Miles any other          | 8  | following."                                                    |  |
| 9     | properties on Taconic Road?                     | 9  | And then there's two proposals                                 |  |
| 10    | A<br>No. Not to my recollection.                | 10 | listed.                                                        |  |
| 11    | Q<br>Mr. Krasner said "I confirmed,"            | 11 | Couple of questions about this                                 |  |
| 12    | did you have an understanding of what he        | 12 | message.                                                       |  |
| 13    | meant there?                                    | 13 | First of all, do you recall which                              |  |
| 14    | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   | 14 | property this message gives reference to?                      |  |
| 15    | A<br>That I was instructed to offer             | 15 | A<br>Wallacks Point.                                           |  |
| 16    | \$4 million for Taconic Road at the time.       | 16 | Q<br>Okay. So was there a meeting that                         |  |
| 17    | Q<br>Instructed by whom?                        | 17 | took place at that property?                                   |  |
| 18    | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   | 18 | A<br>Yes.                                                      |  |
| 19    | A<br>By Max at this point.                      | 19 | Q<br>And Miles was present?                                    |  |
| 20    | Q<br>Okay. And from whom did you                | 20 | A<br>Yes.                                                      |  |
| 21    | understand Mr. Krasner was taking his           | 21 | Q<br>Was this at the -- on the same                            |  |
| 22    | direction?                                      | 22 | date that we were already talking when the                     |  |
| 23    | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   | 23 | other properties were shown or a different                     |  |
| 24    | A<br>Miles.                                     | 24 | date?                                                          |  |
| 25    | Q<br>If you go the next page of the             | 25 | A<br>No. Different.                                            |  |

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| 1        | Q<br>Okay. And to the best of your              | 1        | you have an understanding of why time was of                                          |
| 2        | recollection, can you describe your             | 2        | the essence for Miles?                                                                |
| 3        | interaction with Miles during that visit?       | 3        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                         |
| 4        | A<br>He came with the usual entourage;          | 4        | A<br>No. Other than -- other than that                                                |
| 5        | driver, security, et cetera, et cetera. And     | 5        | he wanted it quickly, that's all.                                                     |
| 6        | I -- I believe his wife was there for this      | 6        | Q<br>Okay. And like -- like the last                                                  |
| 7        | visit. If not the first visit, the second       | 7        | visit he described, I assume Miles asked                                              |
| 8        | visit. I believe they had two visits to         | 8        | questions about the property during this                                              |
| 9        | this property. One day and then the next        | 9        | visit, et cetera?                                                                     |
| 10       | day or a -- a day in between.                   | 10       | A<br>Yes.                                                                             |
| 11       | And the asking price was                        | 11       | Q<br>And, again, what was the language                                                |
| 12       | considerably higher. I believe 12 million       | 12       | that was being spoken?                                                                |
| 13       | was the number. And they had some               | 13       | A<br>English.                                                                         |
| 14       | interaction with the sellers, the family        | 14       | Q<br>In any of your interactions with                                                 |
| 15       | that lived there, which I think the message     | 15       | Miles, did he ever have an interpreter                                                |
| 16       | refers to. And he was very much interested      | 16       | present?                                                                              |
| 17       | in buying the property, but he wanted to do     | 17       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                         |
| 18       | it quickly and the family was not really        | 18       | A<br>No.                                                                              |
| 19       | able to make those short deadlines.             | 19       | Q<br>So the language that was always                                                  |
| 20       | So his offer was based on a quick               | 20       | spoken was English?                                                                   |
| 21       | closing verses a slower closing for the same    | 21       | A<br>Yes.                                                                             |
| 22       | property. Subsequently, Miles decided           | 22       | Q<br>I'd like to direct your attention                                                |
| 23       | against buying and withdrew his offer.          | 23       | to the text message in the middle of the                                              |
| 24       | Q<br>Okay. And when it says "time is            | 24       | page that's dated "February 11, 2020."                                                |
| 25       | of the essence" and you eluded to that, do      | 25       | Do you see that?                                                                      |
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| 1        | A<br>Yes.                                       | 1        | A<br>My understanding was that he was                                                 |
| 2        | Q<br>And given that it's on the                 | 2        | not interested, not looking, not going, not                                           |
| 3        | left-hand side, this would be a -- as you       | 3        | focused on buying a house during that                                                 |
| 4        | discussed, a -- as you described, a message     | 4        | period. And it was out of the clear blue                                              |
| 5        | from Mr. Krasner and it says:                   | 5        | sky that he -- or that Max approached me                                              |
| 6        | "Also, if you think there are                   | 6        | again and said, "Remember that house that                                             |
| 7        | other properties that might interest Miles,     | 7        | you showed Miles at 373 Taconic, it's -- is                                           |
| 8        | please forward them and we will review          | 8        | it still available, and what price, and can                                           |
| 9        | them."                                          | 9        | we see it?"                                                                           |
| 10       | Do you see that?                                | 10       | Q<br>Got it.                                                                          |
| 11       | A<br>Yes.                                       | 11       | And so your message back to him                                                       |
| 12       | Q<br>So, my first question is: It -- I          | 12       | says:                                                                                 |
| 13       | take it from the sequence of the message        | 13       | "Max, we are confirmed for noon                                                       |
| 14       | here, and correct me if I'm wrong, that         | 14       | today at 373 Taconic Road."                                                           |
| 15       | there was a -- basically, a more than           | 15       | And then it says, "Also, walking                                                      |
| 16       | one-year gap in the text communications that    | 16       | property at 371."                                                                     |
| 17       | you had with Mr. Krasner from January 22,       | 17       | So did a meeting occur on                                                             |
| 18       | 2019 to February 11, 2020; is that right?       | 18       | February 11, at 373 Taconic Road?                                                     |
| 19       | A<br>Correct.                                   | 19       | A<br>Yes.                                                                             |
| 20       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                   | 20       | Q<br>And was Miles present at that                                                    |
| 21       | Q<br>What -- what was you understanding         | 21       | meeting?                                                                              |
| 22       | for why the process or the communication at     | 22       | A<br>Yes.                                                                             |
| 23<br>24 | least according to this, stopped for a year,    | 23<br>24 | Q<br>And to the best of your                                                          |
| 25       | approximately?<br>MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. | 25       | recollection, can you just describe to me<br>what occurred during that meeting at 373 |

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| 1  | Taconic?                                    | 1  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 2  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.               | 2  | A<br>Miles.                                  |
|    |                                             | 3  |                                              |
| 3  | A<br>The property price had been            |    | Q<br>And -- and, again, how -- how did       |
| 4  | lowered from my recollection, closer to     | 4  | you come to have that understanding?         |
| 5  | 5 million and Max decided to make an offer  | 5  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 6  | the same day. And the price offered was     | 6  | A<br>Well, he told me what he was            |
| 7  | 4.6 million, which was accepted by the      | 7  | willing to offer in English.                 |
| 8  | sellers, and the real estate person         | 8  | Q<br>Miles told you what he was willing      |
| 9  | representing the sellers acknowledged that. | 9  | to offer?                                    |
| 10 | Q<br>I think you just said that Max         | 10 | A<br>Yes. And it was confirmed, the          |
| 11 | decided to make an offer. Was it your       | 11 | details were confirmed by -- by Max, in this |
| 12 | understanding that Max was the              | 12 | case. But this was a transaction that went   |
| 13 | decision-maker?                             | 13 | unusually quick. I mean, the offer was made  |
| 14 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.               | 14 | on Monday and the closing took place on      |
| 15 | A<br>Yes.                                   | 15 | Friday of the same week. And the moving      |
| 16 | Q<br>Max not Miles?                         | 16 | trucks were in the driveway waiting for the  |
| 17 | A<br>Sorry.                                 | 17 | money to clear and the lawyers to tell me    |
| 18 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.               | 18 | that they had closed.                        |
| 19 | A<br>No. The decision-maker was never       | 19 | Q<br>What was your understanding of why      |
| 20 | Max it was always Miles, but the            | 20 | this transaction occurred so quickly?        |
| 21 | communicator of Miles' intentions was       | 21 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 22 | generally Max.                              | 22 | A<br>I had no information, other than        |
| 23 | Q<br>Okay. So who did you understand        | 23 | that Miles generally wanted things done      |
| 24 |                                             | 24 |                                              |
|    | had made the decision to make this offer on |    | quickly and, you know, and wanted it done as |
| 25 | 373 Taconic Road?                           | 25 | fast as possible, that's it. That's all.     |
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| 1  | MR. BASSETT: I think we've                  | 1  | corner, first page.                          |
| 2  | been going about an hour. I'd like          | 2  | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, do you recognize          |
| 3  | to take a quick break. Why don't we         | 3  | this document?                               |
| 4  | do that now for five or 10 minutes.         | 4  | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 5  | VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now                    | 5  | Q<br>What is it?                             |
| 6  | going off the record. The time is           | 6  | A<br>It's an offer to purchase real          |
| 7  | 11:11.                                      | 7  | estate.                                      |
| 8  | (Whereupon, a recess was taken              | 8  | Q<br>Offer to purchase which real            |
| 9  | from 11:11 AM to 11:23 AM.)                 | 9  | estate?                                      |
| 10 | VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back               | 10 | A<br>373 Taconic Road.                       |
| 11 | on the record. The time is 11:23.           | 11 | Q<br>And prior to break, we were             |
| 12 | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, I want to show you a     | 12 | discussing the offer that Miles made on this |
| 13 | couple of additional documents. If I could  | 13 | property. Do you recall that?                |
| 14 | have my colleague put Tab 4 into the chat,  | 14 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 15 | please.                                     | 15 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 16 | (Whereupon, Offer to Purchase               | 16 | Q<br>Is this the formal offer related        |
| 17 | Real Estate (GREE02327) was                 | 17 | to that offer for this property?             |
| 18 | marked as Exhibit 4 for                     | 18 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 19 | identification as of this date.)            | 19 | A<br>Yeah, it's a nonbinding offer to        |
| 20 | MR. BASSETT: I'd like the                   | 20 | purchase, which generally becomes the deal   |
| 21 | court reporter to please mark this          | 21 | term for the lawyers to put together a       |
| 22 | document as de Neree Exhibit 4.             | 22 | contract.                                    |
| 23 | For the record, this is a                   | 23 | Q<br>Understood.                             |
| 24 | document with the Bates Label               | 24 | It's dated February 11, 2020; is             |
| 25 | GREE002327, bottom of the right-hand        | 25 | that right?                                  |

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| 1      | A<br>Correct.                                              | 1      | Q<br>And did that understanding change            |
| 2      | Q<br>Okay. And it says -- where it                         | 2      | based on the fact that the named buying           |
| 3      | says "buyer" it says "Greenwich Land, LLC."                | 3      | entity was Greenwich Land, LLC?                   |
| 4      | Do you see that?                                           | 4      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                     |
| 5      | A<br>Correct.                                              | 5      | A<br>Correct.                                     |
| 6      | Q<br>Do you have any understanding of                      | 6      | Q<br>You're understanding did not                 |
| 7      | why the buyer was Greenwich Land, LLC?                     | 7      | change?                                           |
| 8      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                              | 8      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                     |
| 9      | A<br>No. I mean, it, as I said, it's                       | 9      | A<br>Can you rephrase the question so             |
| 10     | not unusual for the buyers in the Greenwich                | 10     | it's easier for me to answer.                     |
| 11     | or elsewhere for that matter, to -- to buy a               | 11     | Q<br>Earlier you testified that Miles             |
| 12     | property in an LLC.                                        | 12     | was the one who made the decision to buy the      |
| 13     | Q<br>Did you ask what the relationship                     | 13     | property, correct?                                |
| 14     | was between Greenwich Land, LLC and Miles?                 | 14     | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 15     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                              | 15     | Q<br>This offer to purchase real estate           |
| 16     | A<br>No. I didn't because I was                            | 16     | as a buyer in Greenwich Land, LLC., right?        |
| 17     | instructed by Max that would be the buyer.                 | 17     | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 18     | They would put it in an LLC named Greenwich                | 18     | Q<br>So do you understand that                    |
| 19     | Land.                                                      | 19     | Greenwich Land, LLC., was the entity that         |
| 20     | Q<br>And before you testified that you                     | 20     | Miles was using to purchase the property?         |
| 21     | understood that Miles was the one making a                 | 21     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                     |
| 22     | decision to the buy the property; is that                  | 22     | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 23     | right?                                                     | 23     | MR. BASSETT: Could my                             |
| 24     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                              | 24     | colleagues please put our Tab 6 on                |
| 25     | A<br>Correct.                                              | 25     | the screen, please.                               |
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| 1      | (Whereupon, Email (WBAM_009051)                            | 1      | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 2      | was marked as Exhibit 5 for                                | 2      | Q<br>And if you look at -- if you look            |
| 3      | identification as of this date.)                           | 3      | at the email from the Julie Burke, which is       |
| 4<br>5 | MR. BASSETT: I'll have the                                 | 4      | at the bottom of the second page, dated           |
| 6      | court reporter please mark this as                         | 5      | August 1, 2020 with the subject line 373          |
| 7      | de Neree Exhibit 5.<br>Q<br>Mr. de Neree, before I ask you | 6<br>7 | Taconic Road, this is an email from her to        |
| 8      | questions about this document, when was the                | 8      | you. This would have been after the closing       |
| 9      | first time you ever heard the name Greenwich               | 9      | of the purchase of 373 Taconic Road,              |
| 10     | Land, LLC.?                                                | 10     | correct?<br>A<br>August 1, 2020, yes, absolutely. |
| 11     | A<br>On that day. On that very day                         | 11     | I'm just reading the email.                       |
| 12     | that they instructed me to make an offer.                  | 12     | Q<br>Yeah.                                        |
| 13     | Q<br>So the email that -- sorry. The                       | 13     | A<br>Yeah.                                        |
| 14     | document that's been marked as de Neree                    | 14     | Q<br>Just to paraphrase he's                      |
| 15     | Exhibit 5, for the record, Bates label at                  | 15     | essentially saying that the sellers are           |
| 16     | the bottom right-hand corner of the first                  | 16     | asking for certain funds that are still           |
| 17     | page WBAM_009051. And you can take your                    | 17     | being held in escrow to be released, is that      |
| 18     | time to scroll through the whole thing, but                | 18     | generally what she's saying here?                 |
| 19     | do you recognize this document, Mr. de                     | 19     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                     |
| 20     | Neree?                                                     | 20     | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 21     | A<br>Yes.                                                  | 21     | Q<br>Then if you go up to the next                |
| 22     | Q<br>And is it correct that this is an                     | 22     | email dated August 19, 2020 you say:              |
| 23     | email chain involving you, Mr. Krasner, a                  | 23     | "Dear Margaret and Max, the                       |
| 24     | Margaret Conboy and at times some other                    | 24     | sellers for 373 Taconic, which was bought by      |
| 25     | individuals?                                               | 25     | Miles under Greenwich Land, are asking that       |

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| 1        | the escrow accounts be release."             | 1        | assistant.                                        |
| 2        | Do you see that?                             | 2        | Q<br>I'd like to direct your attention            |
| 3        | A<br>I'm looking. Is it up above it.         | 3        | back the Exhibit 3, which are the text            |
| 4        | Yeah, it's above this, yes, yeah.            | 4        | messages.                                         |
| 5        | Q<br>And you say 373 Taconic.                | 5        | A<br>Yeah.                                        |
| 6        | "Which was bought by Miles under             | 6        | Q<br>If you go to -- I'm sorry, we                |
| 7        | Greenwich Land."                             | 7        |                                                   |
| 8        |                                              | 8        | don't have page numbers. I'm going to a           |
|          | I just want to focus on that. Do             |          | text message that's dated February 15, 2020.      |
| 9        | you see that?                                | 9        | A<br>15, 2020, yeah.                              |
| 10       | A<br>Yeah.                                   | 10       | Q<br>Actually, before, I apologize,               |
| 11       | Q<br>Was that an accurate statement          | 11       | just sort of put a pin in that if we could.       |
| 12       | that you wrote in this email?                | 12       | Before we go there I want to just show you        |
| 13       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 13       | one more document. If my colleague could          |
| 14       | A<br>Yes.                                    | 14       | please put into the chat our Tab 5.               |
| 15       | Q<br>So it's your understanding that         | 15       | (Whereupon, Residential Real                      |
| 16       | Miles bought 373 Taconic under Greenwich     | 16       | Estate Sales Agreement                            |
| 17       | Land, LLC.?                                  | 17       | (GREE02328) was marked as                         |
| 18       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 18       | Exhibit 6 for identification as                   |
| 19       | A<br>That was my understanding.              | 19       | of this date.)                                    |
| 20       | Q<br>And again, how did you come to          | 20       | A<br>Got it.                                      |
| 21       | that understanding?                          | 21       | MR. BASSETT: And for the                          |
| 22       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 22       | record, I'll have this marked as de               |
| 23       | A<br>He was the one that told me that        | 23       | Neere Exhibit 6. Starts at the                    |
| 24       | he wanted it, how much he was going to offer | 24       | bottom right-hand corner with the                 |
| 25       | and all the details were handled by his      | 25       | first page with the Bates label                   |
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| 1        | GREE002328.                                  | 1        | "Yes, 373 Taconic. Call Matthew,                  |
| 2        | Q<br>We already just looked at, which        | 2        | the security."                                    |
| 3        | was de Neere Exhibit 4, the offer for the    | 3        | Do you see that?                                  |
| 4        | property at 373 Taconic Road. Is this the    | 4        | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 5        | formal sales agreement that followed?        | 5        | Q<br>So this would have been after the            |
| 6        | A<br>Yeah. That's the contract.              | 6        | purchase agreement was executed before the        |
| 7        | Q<br>Okay. And this was dated                | 7        | closing; is that correct?                         |
| 8        | February 14, 2020; is that right?            | 8        | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 9        | A<br>Correct.                                | 9        | Q<br>And then the meeting in fact                 |
| 10       | Q<br>Is that the same -- is that the         | 10       | occurred at the house February 15, 2020, to       |
| 11       | date of closing? Actually, if you look at    | 11       | your recollection?                                |
| 12       | next page closing it says February 21, 2020? | 12       | A<br>Yes.                                         |
| 13       | A<br>Yeah, that sounds right.                | 13       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                     |
| 14       | Q<br>Now back to Exhibit 3 -- or,            | 14       | Q<br>What was the purpose of that                 |
| 15       | sorry, not Exhibit 3 -- yes, Exhibit 3, the  | 15       | meeting?                                          |
| 16       | text messages, back to that                  | 16       | A<br>The purpose was to -- to the meet            |
| 17       | February 15, 2020 email, not email, text     | 17       | with designers, in this case it was an            |
| 18       | message. I think there's only one text       | 18       | interior designer and an architect, someone       |
| 19       | message on that date from you to Max Krasner | 19       | specializing in high-end renovations and he       |
| 20       | which says:                                  | 20       | wanted to meet them about some changes he         |
| 21       | "Max, are we still on for noon               | 21       | wanted to make to the house.                      |
| 22       | today at 373 Taconic?"                       | 22       | Q<br>You're saying he, who are you                |
| 23       | Do you see that?                             | 23       | referring to?                                     |
| 24<br>25 | A<br>Yes, correct.<br>Q<br>Then he says:     | 24<br>25 | A<br>Miles.<br>Q<br>So Miles was at this meeting? |

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| 1  | A             | Correct.                                     | 1  | on, and he took them through the house and I |         |
| 2  | Q             | And then architects or designers             | 2  | wasn't present in every discussion and every |         |
| 3  |               | were at this meeting?                        | 3  | aspect of the changes that he was talking    |         |
| 4  | A             | Correct.                                     | 4  | about.                                       |         |
| 5  | Q             | You were there, too?                         | 5  | Q<br>Okay. After this                        |         |
| 6  | A             | Yes, I wasn't in the meeting from            | 6  | February 15, 2020 meeting, are you aware of  |         |
| 7  |               | beginning to end, but I was present and      | 7  | any other meetings that occurred at the 373  |         |
| 8  |               | introduced them and so forth.                | 8  | Taconic Road property?                       |         |
| 9  | Q             | The parts that you did observe,              | 9  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |         |
| 10 |               | can you describe generally the interactions  | 10 | A<br>I'm trying to see the dates.            |         |
| 11 |               | that occurred between Miles and the          | 11 | 17th. I believe at most of the meetings      |         |
| 12 |               | designers and architects?                    | 12 | that I had at the property were with         |         |
| 13 |               | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 13 | inspectors and property managers, previous   |         |
| 14 | Q             | You said you were present for part           | 14 | property managers and things like that.      |         |
| 15 |               | of the meeting, correct?                     | 15 | Just for the purpose of a building           |         |
| 16 | A             | Correct.                                     | 16 | inspection report.                           |         |
| 17 | Q             | The parts that you were present              | 17 | Q<br>Did you recall ever meeting Miles       |         |
| 18 |               | for, can you please describe generally, the  | 18 | at the property after that February 2020     |         |
| 19 |               | interactions that you observed between Miles | 19 | meeting?                                     |         |
| 20 |               | and the architects and designers?            | 20 | A<br>I'm just looking at my agenda to        |         |
| 21 |               | MR. MAJOR: Objection as to                   | 21 | see if I can find some clarification. But    |         |
| 22 |               | form.                                        | 22 | the closing itself -- so on the 17th it was  |         |
| 23 | A             | He talked about what he liked and            | 23 | just me and the seller's agent. On the       |         |
| 24 |               | what he didn't like and what had changed and | 24 | 17th. I have meeting with the moving         |         |
| 25 |               | how was that possible and so forth and so    | 25 | company on the 18th.                         |         |
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| 1  | Q             | Mr. de Neree, are you looking at a           | 1  | "Hi, Max I have a scheduled                  |         |
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| 1  | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, are you looking at a      | 1  | "Hi, Max I have a scheduled                  |
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| 2  | calender or a personal --                    | 2  | showing at 429 Taconic."                     |
| 3  | A<br>My own calender, yeah, I don't          | 3  | Do you see that?                             |
| 4  | write down everything, but a few things. It  | 4  | A<br>Yeah.                                   |
| 5  | says moving company at 373 Taconic and I'm   | 5  | Q<br>Yes, it says:                           |
| 6  | only going by what I was doing that day.     | 6  | "Hi, Max, I have scheduled a                 |
| 7  | But I don't have everything.                 | 7  | showing at 429 Taconic at 2:00 p.m., Friday, |
| 8  | Q<br>And that's fine. So Mr. de Neree,       | 8  | it's the horse farm property up the road     |
| 9  | I think, I don't think we have that document | 9  | from Miles home and he wanted to see it."    |
| 10 | and I believe to the extent that agenda or   | 10 | Do you see that?                             |
| 11 | calender of yours, to the extent that it     | 11 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 12 | refer to meetings at the property, it        | 12 | Q<br>So what was this text message           |
| 13 | probably would be technically responsive to  | 13 | about?                                       |
| 14 | our subpoena. I would ask you to provide a   | 14 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 15 | copy of that after this, but obviously we    | 15 | A<br>Well, as it says, Miles had             |
| 16 | can redact it so that you don't have         | 16 | expressed an interest either directly to me  |
| 17 | personal stuff in there or whatever, but we  | 17 | or via Max, I do not remember because I sent |
| 18 | can talk about that after the deposition     | 18 | him information about this and it confirms   |
| 19 | today.                                       | 19 | that I set up the appointment for 2:00 p.m.  |
| 20 | A<br>Okay.                                   | 20 | on Friday.                                   |
| 21 | Q<br>If you could go to a couple of          | 21 | Q<br>So after purchasing 373 Taconic,        |
| 22 | pages in Exhibit 3, down from where we were  | 22 | Miles was interested in potentially buying   |
| 23 | for the March 5th, 2020 text messages. Text  | 23 | other nearby properties?                     |
| 24 | message from you to Mr. Krasner, it starts   | 24 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                |
| 25 | with:                                        | 25 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
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| 1      | Q<br>And when you said up the road for                                                  | 1      | the communication.                           |
| 2      | Miles home, did you mean to say up the road                                             | 2      | Q<br>Okay. If you can go to the next         |
| 3      | from Miles home?                                                                        | 3      | page, the May 21, 2020 text message it says: |
| 4      | A<br>Yes.                                                                               | 4      | "Hi, Max. Gladys reaches out to              |
| 5      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                           | 5      | me to find office space or farm near Indian  |
| 6      | Q<br>When you said Miles home, what                                                     | 6      | Harbor for Miles."                           |
| 7      | were you referring to?                                                                  | 7      | Do you see that?                             |
| 8      | A<br>373 Taconic.                                                                       | 8      | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 9      | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                           | 9      | Q<br>Who is Gladys?                          |
| 10     | Q<br>Also, you say here that when                                                       | 10     | A<br>Gladys introduced herself as            |
| 11     | you're referring to 429 Taconic that, this                                              | 11     | working for Miles and looking for office     |
| 12     | is the last line of the second sentence that                                            | 12     | space.                                       |
| 13     | quote:                                                                                  | 13     | Q<br>Do you know her last name?              |
| 14     | "He wanted to see it."                                                                  | 14     | A<br>No.                                     |
| 15     | Who is he in reference to?                                                              | 15     | Q<br>She said she worked for Miles?          |
| 16     | A<br>Miles.                                                                             | 16     | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 17     | Q<br>How did you know that he wanted to                                                 | 17     | Q<br>What she told you was that Miles        |
| 18     | see the home?                                                                           | 18     | was looking to acquire office space or farm  |
| 19     | A<br>Because he told me so.                                                             | 19     | near Indian Harbor?                          |
| 20     | Q<br>Miles?                                                                             | 20     | A<br>Yeah, that he had an interest in        |
| 21     | A<br>Yes. That's what I surmised from                                                   | 21     | it, yeah.                                    |
| 22     | the message because I don't remember whether                                            | 22     | Q<br>Did you come to have any                |
| 23     | Max first said that Miles wanted to see it.                                             | 23     | understanding for what purpose he was        |
| 24     | Or whether Miles told me directly that he                                               | 24     | looking for this office space?               |
| 25     | wanted to see it. Again, I do not remember                                              | 25     | A<br>No. I mean office space, to work        |
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| 1      | out of I imagine.                                                                       | 1      | may not have any other questions at          |
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| 2      | Q<br>What about a farm, any                                                             | 2      | this time, but let me confirm that           |
| 3      | understanding of why he was looking to                                                  | 3<br>4 | and then I'll let you know when we           |
| 4      | acquire a farm?                                                                         | 5      | get back on.                                 |
| 5<br>6 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                           | 6      | MR. MAJOR: Okay.<br>VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now |
| 7      | A<br>No. He was looking for a good, I                                                   | 7      | going off the record. The time is            |
| 8      | guess land investment that had a farm on it.<br>Not necessarily working farm, he wasn't | 8      | 11:50.                                       |
| 9      | looking at that necessarily. But he looked                                              | 9      | (Whereupon, a recess was taken               |
| 10     | at property that was beautiful and large,                                               | 10     | from 11:50 AM to 12:04 PM.)                  |
| 11     | multiple acres overlooking with good views                                              | 11     | VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back                |
| 12     | and nice stream through it and that was                                                 | 12     | on the record, the time is 11:54.            |
| 13     | about it. That's the information I got.                                                 | 13     | MR. BASSETT: So, Mr. de                      |
| 14     | And there weren't very many properties like                                             | 14     | Neree, thank you again for your time         |
| 15     | that available at the time except for the                                               | 15     | this morning. I do not have any              |
| 16     | one up the road, which I described was                                                  | 16     | other questions right now, although          |
| 17     | 14 million, he liked it, but he just thought                                            | 17     | I do reserve the right to ask some           |
| 18     | it was too much money.                                                                  | 18     | followup questions after Mr. Major           |
| 19     | Q<br>Understood. Did you ever end up                                                    | 19     | asks his questions. So at this time          |
| 20     | helping Miles actually buy and close on the                                             | 20     | I will pass the witness.                     |
| 21     | purchase of any other properties?                                                       | 21     | EXAMINATION BY                               |
| 22     | A<br>No.                                                                                | 22     | MR. MAJOR:                                   |
| 23     | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                           | 23     | Q<br>Good afternoon, Mr. de Neree, my        |
| 24     | MR. BASSETT: Can we take                                                                | 24     | name is Chris Major. I'm at the law firm     |
| 25     | another five to 10 minutes again. I                                                     | 25     | Meister, Seelig & Fein. We represent the     |

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| 1  | defendants in the adversary proceeding, Hing | 1  | form.                                        |
| 2  | Chi Ngok and Greenwich Land, LLC. I've got   | 2  | A<br>I'm just closing that so I can          |
| 3  | some questions for you covering some of the  | 3  | see, no, only that there's a bankruptcy      |
| 4  | subject matter you've testified to today and | 4  | proceeding involving this property and       |
| 5  | some other questions for you as well. So     | 5  | others, that's all.                          |
| 6  | that and the same ground rules will apply so | 6  | Q<br>When you say there's a bankruptcy       |
| 7  | please let me finish my question before you  | 7  | involving this property, what do you mean by |
| 8  | start your answer and Mr. Bassett, who's     | 8  | that?                                        |
| 9  | representing the Chapter 11 Trustee in this  | 9  | A<br>I -- just that there is a               |
| 10 | case, he may have objections to some of my   | 10 | bankruptcy involving Miles and that's what I |
| 11 | questions. Are those ground rules okay with  | 11 | was told, and this property's involved and I |
| 12 | you?                                         | 12 | don't know what other properties could be    |
| 13 | A<br>Yes.                                    | 13 | involved, I have no other knowledge of       |
| 14 | Q<br>Okay. I want to give you one            | 14 | anything else.                               |
| 15 | other very important instruction, which is   | 15 | Q<br>Who told you that there was a           |
| 16 | you have been called to testify at this      | 16 | bankruptcy involving Miles?                  |
| 17 | deposition as a fact witness and for that    | 17 | A<br>I was told by Paul Hastings, I          |
| 18 | reason, I want to ask you not to speculate   | 18 | believe at one point they contacted me.      |
| 19 | or assume things, but only testify to facts  | 19 | Q<br>What is Paul Hastings?                  |
| 20 | that you actually know and know directly, is | 20 | A<br>The law firm Paul Hastings.             |
| 21 | that okay?                                   | 21 | Q<br>Okay. Do you know who the               |
| 22 | A<br>Yes.                                    | 22 | plaintiff is in the lawsuit in which you're  |
| 23 | Q<br>Okay. First of all, do you know         | 23 | testifying?                                  |
| 24 | anything about what this case is about?      | 24 | A<br>I mean I don't know. No, I don't        |
| 25 | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                    | 25 | know for sure. The state is it? I don't      |
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| 1  | know. I do not know.                         | 1  | Q<br>What, if anything, did you do to        |
| 2  | Q<br>You've been referring to someone        | 2  | confirm his identity during the time you had |
| 3  | named Miles today. Do you know that          | 3  | in-person meetings with the person you refer |
| 4  | person's full name?                          | 4  | to as Miles?                                 |
| 5  | A<br>He was always referred to me as         | 5  | A<br>I did not have any attempt to           |
| 6  | Miles. He introduced himself as Miles. I     | 6  | identify him.                                |
| 7  | didn't know his full name. I found out that  | 7  | Q<br>Do you know whether the person          |
| 8  | he had a last name later, after I met him.   | 8  | you've been referring to as Miles was        |
| 9  | And did not know that he had other names     | 9  | married?                                     |
| 10 | that he went by, and I did not know some of  | 10 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 11 | the names that were mentioned earlier in the | 11 | Q<br>Do you know whether he had              |
| 12 | deposition.                                  | 12 | children?                                    |
| 13 | Q<br>You said you found out later that       | 13 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 14 | he went by other names. Is that what you     | 14 | Q<br>Do you know the names of the            |
| 15 | just said?                                   | 15 | children?                                    |
| 16 | A<br>Yeah. There were stories on the         | 16 | A<br>I don't remember. I must have           |
| 17 | internet and more recently stories that came | 17 | known them at some point, but they may have  |
| 18 | out about Miles, where he was named -- where | 18 | been introduced to me with their first       |
| 19 | he had other names that he supposedly had    | 19 | names. But I don't remember their names. I   |
| 20 | been using. But I did not know those names   | 20 | met his wife twice. Once at Wallacks Point   |
| 21 | and I never heard those before.              | 21 | during the negotiation about that property.  |
| 22 | Q<br>Did you ever see any government         | 22 | And the second time I believe was at 373     |
| 23 | issued photo identification of the person    | 23 | Taconic with her two, one daughter, one son. |
| 24 | you knew as Miles?                           | 24 | Q<br>Do you speak Mandarin?                  |
| 25 | A<br>No.                                     | 25 | A<br>No. I do not.                           |
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| 1             | Q<br>So you would not understand a          | 1  | place?                                       |
| 2             | conversation if it took place in front of   | 2  | A<br>I do not recall.                        |
| 3             | you but in Mandarin?                        | 3  | Q<br>Was it during 2023?                     |
| 4             | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                   | 4  | A<br>We're in August, it could have          |
| 5             | form.                                       | 5  | taken place in '23. Honestly, it was a       |
| 6             | A<br>I would not.                           | 6  | phone call. I had no notes of it or          |
| 7             | Q<br>You mentioned the law firm Paul        | 7  | anything, just to --                         |
| 8             | Hastings. When was the first time you spoke | 8  | Q<br>Do you know whether anyone else         |
| 9             | with someone from Paul Hastings regarding   | 9  | was on the line when Mr. Despins called you? |
| 10            | Miles or the bankruptcy or any property,    | 10 | A<br>No.                                     |
| 11            | including but not limited to 373 Taconic    | 11 | Q<br>Have you spoken with anyone else        |
| 12            | Road?                                       | 12 | before today from Paul Hastings?             |
| 13            | A<br>Well, I was approached at one          | 13 | A<br>About this matter?                      |
| 14            | point by Luc, Luc, last name -- I think it  | 14 | Q<br>Yes.                                    |
| 15            | was Lapin [sic]. And he mentioned that he   | 15 | A<br>I believe all communication from        |
| 16            | was in charge of the bankruptcy. No details | 16 | that point were in emails and notifications  |
| 17            | on that, but just in case. And he said,     | 17 | like that. I got served a subpoena to        |
| 18            | your name has come up as having done        | 18 | appear three times, I think. Once in         |
| 19            | business with this person Miles. And he     | 19 | Bridgeport, once in Stamford, and once in    |
| 20            | said, we may have to depose you sometime in | 20 | New York City. And none of them ever         |
| 21            | the future. And I said, fine. I mean, you   | 21 | happened. I even went to New York City when  |
| 22            | know, that was about it. So it was the      | 22 | I wasn't needed. It didn't happen, in other  |
| 23            | first I heard that there could be a         | 23 | words.                                       |
| 24            | deposition.                                 | 24 | Q<br>Okay. Do you have the emails that       |
| 25            | Q<br>When did that conversation take        | 25 | you've exchanged with Paul Hastings?         |
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| 1<br>A<br>I had no exchange. It was just<br>1<br>A<br>I don't even know what --<br>2<br>2<br>notified. I didn't get back. Oh, the only<br>Q<br>Sure. Are you a lawyer?<br>3<br>3<br>ones were the most recent ones that I saw<br>A<br>No. I'm not. I'm a realtor.<br>4<br>you guys were copied on, just having to do<br>4<br>Q<br>Understood. The docket is just a<br>5<br>5<br>with the timing of the deposition and that<br>list of documents that have been filed in<br>6<br>6<br>it was going to be a Zoom as opposed to an<br>the case and notices and things like that. |
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| 7<br>in-person and exactly when. That's it.<br>7<br>A<br>No, no. I have not.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |
| 8<br>8<br>That's the only communication that I have<br>Q<br>So presumably, someone had to tell                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                |
| 9<br>9<br>about the -- and the other ones were just,<br>you that you were not needed at the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |
| 10<br>as I said, you know, official documents,<br>10<br>courthouse in Bridgeport as set forth in the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          |
| 11<br>11<br>subpoena to appear and stuff.<br>subpoena, right?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |
| 12<br>12<br>Q<br>You mentioned that you were<br>A<br>Correct.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |
| 13<br>subpoenaed to appear in Bridgeport. Was<br>13<br>Q<br>Was that someone from Paul                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        |
| 14<br>14<br>that at a courthouse?<br>Hastings?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                |
| 15<br>15<br>A<br>Yes.<br>A<br>I believe so.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |
| 16<br>Q<br>Did you go to the courthouse?<br>16<br>Q<br>Do you know what the name of that                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      |
| 17<br>17<br>A<br>No. Everything was canceled prior<br>person was?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             |
| 18<br>18<br>to, you know, everything was canceled.<br>A<br>Well, the most recent                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
| 19<br>Q<br>Have you ever looked at the docket<br>19<br>communications were all with Avi Luft. I've                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |
| 20<br>20<br>in this case?<br>never met Avi Luft, but that's just a person                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     |
| 21<br>21<br>MR. BASSETT: Objection to<br>that from whom I got communication.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |
| 22<br>22<br>form.<br>Q<br>Did the person from Paul Hastings                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |
| 23<br>23<br>A<br>No. I have not. What do you mean<br>tell you why your presence was not required                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
| 24<br>by "the docket"?<br>24<br>at the Bridgeport courthouse?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |
| 25<br>25<br>Q<br>Had you ever --<br>A<br>No. Just that it was postponed                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       |
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| 1        | canceled, whatever, push forward, timing,                                               | 1        | have to look that up. I don't know. Just                 |
| 2        | whatever. No. No reason.                                                                | 2        | by memory.                                               |
| 3        | Q<br>When Mr. Despins called you for                                                    | 3        | Q<br>Okay. You also mentioned that you                   |
| 4        | the first time, what did he tell you about                                              | 4        | received a subpoena to show up in New York               |
| 5        | the case?                                                                               | 5        | City, correct?                                           |
| 6        | MR. BASSETT: Object to form.                                                            | 6        | A<br>Yes.                                                |
| 7        | A<br>As I said, he said, we've seen                                                     | 7        | Q<br>And I think you were starting to                    |
| 8        | your name on documents involving the                                                    | 8        | say that you actually traveled to New York               |
| 9        | purchase of 373 Taconic, and it's involved                                              | 9        | City pursuant to that subpoena; is that                  |
| 10       | in a bankruptcy proceeding. No details                                                  | 10       | correct?                                                 |
| 11       | there, but --                                                                           | 11       | A<br>Yes. Because I think I was -- if                    |
| 12       | And, as I said, he said, we may                                                         | 12       | I recall, I was served, somebody came to my              |
| 13       | have to subpoena you or you may have to                                                 | 13       | house with a subpoena, I was served. The                 |
| 14       | testify or something like that. I don't                                                 | 14       | date was whatever. I decided head into the               |
| 15       | recall what he said exactly, but something                                              | 15       | city. And then I called the firm to confirm              |
| 16       | along those lines. And I said, well, I hope                                             | 16       | the details of timing and where to go and so             |
| 17       | not. But other than that, you know.                                                     | 17       | forth and so on. And they said no, no, no,               |
| 18       | Q<br>You mentioned that you were once                                                   | 18       | there's no deposition today, and there's                 |
| 19       | subpoenaed to show up in Stamford,                                                      | 19       | no -- so, apologies, but, no, it's not                   |
| 20       | Connecticut, I believe, right?                                                          | 20       | happening today.                                         |
| 21       | A<br>Well, I would have to look at the                                                  | 21       | Q<br>Do you recall when that was?                        |
| 22       | details. But, as I said, there were several                                             | 22       | A<br>When that was?                                      |
| 23       | locations. The first one I believe was                                                  | 23       | Q<br>Yes.                                                |
| 24       | Bridgeport. And the second one was a                                                    | 24       | A<br>My best recollection, somewhere in                  |
| 25       | location I thought in Stamford, but I would                                             | 25       | May or June.                                             |
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| 1        | Q<br>Of 2023?                                                                           | 1        | around and went home.                                    |
| 2        | A<br>Yes. This year. Yeah. That was                                                     | 2        | Q<br>Did you turn around after you got                   |
| 3        | the last one that was canceled, I believe.                                              | 3        | to Grand Central?                                        |
| 4        | Q<br>Do you have a copy of that                                                         | 4        | A<br>Right. I took the next train back                   |
| 5        | subpoena?                                                                               | 5        | to Stamford.                                             |
| 6        | A<br>I must have somewhere, but I don't                                                 | 6        | Q<br>Do you recall who at Paul Hastings                  |
| 7        | know. Here it is. Yes. I'll show you the                                                | 7        | you spoke with?                                          |
| 8        | document right here. It says 10:00 a.m. on                                              | 8        | A<br>No. I don't remember who I spoke                    |
| 9        | May 12, and the location is Paul Hastings.                                              | 9        | with. It could have been Avi or -- I don't               |
| 10       | Q<br>Can you determine from looking at                                                  | 10       | remember. Or it could have been Luc Lapin                |
| 11       | it who signed that subpoena on behalf of                                                | 11       | (sic). But I don't remember the specific                 |
| 12       | Paul Hastings?                                                                          | 12       | conversation, other than, sorry, it's a                  |
| 13       | MR. BASSETT: Objection.                                                                 | 13       | mistake and we're not having it.                         |
| 14       | A<br>No. It has a scratch. I mean,                                                      | 14       | Q<br>Before you traveled to New York                     |
| 15       | you can tell for yourself.                                                              | 15       | City that day, you had spoken with                       |
| 16       | Q<br>Could I ask you to hold that up                                                    | 16       | Mr. Despins, right?                                      |
| 17       | again, sir, please.                                                                     | 17       | A<br>Yes. But that was a long time                       |
| 18       | A<br>(Witness complies.)                                                                | 18       | before that.                                             |
| 19       | Q<br>Did you contact anyone at Paul                                                     | 19       | Q<br>Had you spoken with Mr. Luft                        |
| 20       | Hastings after receiving that subpoena?                                                 | 20       | before traveling to New York City that day?              |
| 21       | A<br>Yeah. As I said, I contacted                                                       | 21       | A<br>I don't think so.                                   |
| 22       | somebody to find out where to go and which                                              | 22       | Q<br>And you can't determine from                        |
| 23       | room and so forth and so on. And they said,                                             | 23       | looking at the subpoena that's in front of               |
| 24<br>25 | we're so sorry, but this was a mistake and<br>there is no deposition today. So I turned | 24<br>25 | you, who signed it on behalf of Paul<br>Hastings, right? |

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| 1  | MR. BASSETT: Objection.                      | 1  | A<br>That was it. That was all.              |
| 2  | A<br>Well, I mean, there's no names          | 2  | Q<br>Well, didn't they ask you to send       |
| 3  | printed. There's just a signature on it.     | 3  | documents to them?                           |
| 4  | And, as I said, I believe I got this served  | 4  | MR. BASSETT: Object to form.                 |
| 5  | by someone who came from New York City to    | 5  | A<br>Yeah. Those documents were part         |
| 6  | serve me with this. And it was like on a --  | 6  | of a document request, right?                |
| 7  | it was maybe a week or two before the date   | 7  | Q<br>I don't know. That's why I'm            |
| 8  | by memory.                                   | 8  | asking.                                      |
| 9  | Q<br>Have you spoken with anyone other       | 9  | A<br>Yeah. They were part of a               |
| 10 | than Mr. Despins before traveling to New     | 10 | document request that I got where they said  |
| 11 | York City that day?                          | 11 | we need all communication, this, that and    |
| 12 | A<br>No. I don't recall.                     | 12 | the other. And at some point I told them     |
| 13 | Q<br>Is it therefore likely that the         | 13 | that I had, you know, no emails because my   |
| 14 | person you called at Paul Hastings while     | 14 | email account had been deleted according to  |
| 15 | traveling to New York City was Mr. Despins?  | 15 | Coldwell Banker. And that I had supplied     |
| 16 | MR. BASSETT: Object to form.                 | 16 | everything that I had.                       |
| 17 | A<br>Yes. It's possible. But I also          | 17 | And at some point in time they               |
| 18 | had communication from Avi and this other    | 18 | said, well, don't you have anything like     |
| 19 | person you referred to, Laff, Raft, or       | 19 | texts, and I said, yes, but I don't know how |
| 20 | something like that. But, no, I was not --   | 20 | you can copy texts. And at some point I      |
| 21 | I don't remember speaking to anyone.         | 21 | figured out how to do that. And I believe    |
| 22 | Q<br>What else did the person from Paul      | 22 | it was on a computer, that you can copy and  |
| 23 | Hastings tell you in addition to the fact    | 23 | print texts. And I scanned those and sent    |
| 24 | that you did not need to come to their       | 24 | them as part of the documents that I had.    |
| 25 | office that day?                             | 25 | Q<br>Do you recall when you provided         |
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| 1  | documents to Paul Hastings?                  | 1  | noticed there were a lot of other people     |
| 2  | A<br>I believe it was after the first        | 2  | mentioned, and I was mentioned on one of     |
| 3  | subpoena. I don't even know -- there is      | 3  | them, and that's all.                        |
| 4  | one -- so this is the -- you can see the     | 4  | Q<br>Is there a date next to                 |
| 5  | size of this. This is the first thing that   | 5  | Mr. Lindsay's signature?                     |
| 6  | I got in via FedEx. And it doesn't have a    | 6  | A<br>I don't actually -- on that first       |
| 7  | date on it.                                  | 7  | document that you mentioned, there -- yeah.  |
| 8  | Q<br>Can you -- I think if you flip          | 8  | Dated March 24, 2023, Newhaven, Connecticut. |
| 9  | through, and the first time you get to a     | 9  | Q<br>How soon after that, did you send       |
| 10 | signature, whether that signature be an ink  | 10 | documents to Paul Hastings?                  |
| 11 | signature or an electronic signature,        | 11 | A<br>Honestly, it -- I don't remember        |
| 12 | there's probably a date near it.             | 12 | the exact dates, but I do remember first     |
| 13 | A<br>I mean, I got this, my firm got         | 13 | checking with my previous coworkers and      |
| 14 | this, and we all responded. I spoke to the   | 14 | bosses at Coldwell Banker, and, ultimately,  |
| 15 | lawyer at Coldwell Banker, and he said, yes, | 15 | with the chief legal counsel. Specifically   |
| 16 | we got the same and we supplied whatever     | 16 | because a lot of the documents they          |
| 17 | information we had or they requested.        | 17 | requested I didn't have access to. I didn't  |
| 18 | It's Luc Lapin, Chapter 11                   | 18 | have emails. I just had a file.              |
| 19 | Trustee, by S Patrick R Lindsay, of Neuberg  | 19 | So I don't have a lot of documents           |
| 20 | Pepe & Monteith, 196 Church Street, 13th     | 20 | other than what you saw today, offer to      |
| 21 | Floor, Newhaven, Connecticut. Counsel for    | 21 | purchase, representation agreement,          |
| 22 | the Chapter 11 Trustee. I mean, this is a    | 22 | ultimately a contract. And that was it. So   |
| 23 | very big document with a lot of questions.   | 23 | I didn't have much to offer. And I was told  |
| 24 | I did not read the whole thing. I did not    | 24 | that Coldwell Banker would -- 'cause they    |
| 25 | read -- I read a couple of pages where I     | 25 | would have the exact same documents, had     |

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| 1      | already submitted those documents.                                              | 1      | have also been subpoenaed. But I don't even        |
| 2      | Q<br>When you -- on the day you                                                 | 2      | remember the name of that broker. It was           |
| 3      | traveled to New York City, by that date had                                     | 3      | someone I didn't really know, but I didn't         |
| 4      | you previously provided documents to Paul                                       | 4      | discuss it.                                        |
| 5      | Hastings?                                                                       | 5      | Q<br>Was it Martha Jeffrey?                        |
| 6      | A<br>Yes.                                                                       | 6      | A<br>Sounds familiar, but I can't                  |
| 7      | Q<br>How did you send the documents to                                          | 7      | confirm, but sounds familiar.                      |
| 8      | Paul Hastings?                                                                  | 8      | Q<br>And how did you come in contact               |
| 9      | A<br>Electronically, via email, as                                              | 9      | with the broker who asked you whether you          |
| 10     | attachments, I believe.                                                         | 10     | had been subpoenaed?                               |
| 11     | Q<br>So you could determine the date on                                         | 11     | A<br>I just went to an open house. She             |
| 12     | which you sent those documents by looking at                                    | 12     | had a listing and I was looking at the             |
| 13     | your email, correct?                                                            | 13     | house. And she knew that -- what I found           |
| 14     | A<br>Probably.                                                                  | 14     | out after Miles had purchased the house,           |
| 15     | Q<br>And I may ask you to do that                                               | 15     | that even though I had an exclusive right to       |
| 16     | during a break, just to check your sent                                         | 16     | be his broker, he worked with many other           |
| 17     | items to see when you sent those documents                                      | 17     | brokers in Greenwich. And that's all I             |
| 18     | to Paul Hastings.                                                               | 18     | knew.                                              |
| 19     | Did you -- other than speaking                                                  | 19     | And I know of one other or two                     |
| 20     | with former colleagues at Coldwell Banker                                       | 20     | other names that I heard, but I never              |
| 21     | and with Paul Hastings, have you discussed                                      | 21     | checked into it because I didn't care. I           |
| 22     | the subpoenas you received with anyone else?                                    | 22     | mean, it was not -- I never thought that I         |
| 23     | A<br>No. There was some broker at one                                           | 23     | would be the only person he would ever talk        |
| 24     | point who said, have you been subpoenaed,                                       | 24     | to. So it was irrelevant to me.                    |
| 25     | and I said, yes, because of -- she said, I                                      | 25     | Q<br>You testified just now that you               |
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| 1      | had an exclusive with Miles. Do you have                                        | 1      | Q<br>It's not anyone named Miles,                  |
| 2      | any document signed by this person named                                        | 2      | right?                                             |
| 3      | Miles where he agreed that you would be his                                     | 3      | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                          |
| 4      | exclusive broker?                                                               | 4      | form.                                              |
| 5      | A<br>No. In fact, they crossed that                                             | 5      | A<br>Correct.                                      |
| 6      | out. Even though it was not Miles who                                           | 6      | Q<br>And did you participate as a                  |
| 7      | obviously signed this, it was Max Krasner                                       | 7<br>8 | broker in any transaction that Hudson              |
| 8<br>9 | who did. And it said Hudson Diamond. And                                        | 9      | Diamond participated in?                           |
| 10     | that was the document I got to represent                                        | 10     | A<br>No.<br>Q<br>Have you acted as a broker on any |
| 11     | Miles in the transaction that ultimately                                        | 11     | transactions in which the buyer on the             |
| 12     | took place a year later.                                                        | 12     | contract was named Miles?                          |
| 13     | Q<br>You say that you were representing                                         | 13     |                                                    |
| 14     | Miles, but the exclusive right to represent                                     | 14     | MR. BASSETT: Objection to<br>form.                 |
| 15     | buyer agreement, which I think is what<br>you're referring to; is that correct? | 15     | A<br>No.                                           |
| 16     | A<br>Right.                                                                     | 16     | Q<br>Are you aware of the person you               |
| 17     | Q<br>And that was marked as Exhibit 2                                           | 17     | knew as Miles owning and having title to any       |
| 18     | to your deposition today, correct?                                              | 18     | property in Greenwich, Connecticut?                |
| 19     | A<br>Right.                                                                     | 19     | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                          |
| 20     | Q<br>And the buyer that's listed on                                             | 20     | form.                                              |
| 21     | that the document is Hudson Diamond,                                            | 21     | A<br>No. Other than -- I mean, he was              |
| 22     | correct?                                                                        | 22     | the person who showed up. He was the person        |
| 23     | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                       | 23     | who arranged the payment of the transfer of        |
| 24     | form.                                                                           | 24     | funds. He, through his assistant,                  |
| 25     | A<br>That's correct.                                                            | 25     | instructed me on -- on these matters. But,         |

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| 1<br>2   | no, I had no proof. As you earlier said, I                                        | 1<br>2   | Q<br>And did your prior firm, Coldwell                                              |
| 3        | never asked for his official identification.<br>Q<br>You said he arranged for the | 3        | Banker, do anything to diligence the source                                         |
| 4        |                                                                                   | 4        | of the funds for its commission?                                                    |
| 5        | transfer of the funds. What did you do to                                         | 5        | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                       |
| 6        | diligence the source of funds that were used                                      | 6        | A<br>No.                                                                            |
| 7        | to purchase the property at 373 Taconic Road<br>in Greenwich, Connecticut?        | 7        | Q<br>Did you do anything to diligence<br>the source of the funds for the commission |
| 8        | MR. BASSETT: Objection.                                                           | 8        | that was paid to your prior firm?                                                   |
| 9        | Form.                                                                             | 9        | A<br>Just to clarify.                                                               |
| 10       | A<br>That was not my function. Once we                                            | 10       | Commission is paid by the seller's                                                  |
| 11       | have an accepted offer, all details are                                           | 11       | attorney. So the commission itself did not                                          |
| 12       | negotiated and discussed between the two                                          | 12       | come from the buyer.                                                                |
| 13       | lawyers. The selling or seller's attorney                                         | 13       | Q<br>Well, is -- the seller's attorney                                              |
| 14       | and the buyer's attorney. And so I was left                                       | 14       | is not sending you its own funds, right                                             |
| 15       | out of any discussion as to where the funds                                       | 15       | they're sending funds from the sale?                                                |
| 16       | were coming from and how and all that stuff.                                      | 16       | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                           |
| 17       | Q<br>Your prior firm received a                                                   | 17       | form.                                                                               |
| 18       | commission in connection with the purchase                                        | 18       | A<br>Yes.                                                                           |
| 19       | of the 373 Taconic Road in the Greenwich,                                         | 19       | Q<br>So my question is: Did you or                                                  |
| 20       | Connecticut, right?                                                               | 20       | your prior firm do anything to diligence the                                        |
| 21       | A<br>Right.                                                                       | 21       | source of the purchase proceeds for 373                                             |
| 22       | Q<br>And from that commission that your                                           | 22       | Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut?                                             |
| 23       | prior firm received, you received a share of                                      | 23       | A<br>No.                                                                            |
| 24       | that, right?                                                                      | 24       | Q<br>No? You have no knowledge of who                                               |
| 25       | A<br>Right.                                                                       | 25       | provided the money to purchase that the                                             |
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| 2        | property, correct?                                                                | 2        | of this -- of my questioning; I want to                                             |
| 3        | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                         | 3        | avoid you speculating. So when you say as                                           |
| 4        | form.<br>A<br>No.                                                                 | 4        | far as you were concerned it was Miles, that                                        |
| 5        | Q<br>I just want to make sure the                                                 | 5        | was your assumption, right?<br>A<br>Correct.                                        |
| 6        | record is clear.                                                                  | 6        | MR. BASSETT: Objection --                                                           |
| 7        | You're agreeing that you have no                                                  | 7        | object to the form.                                                                 |
| 8        | knowledge about the source of funds used to                                       | 8        | Q<br>In other words, you don't know                                                 |
| 9        | purchase 373 Taconic Road in Greenwich,                                           | 9        | what bank account sent money to the seller's                                        |
| 10       | Connecticut?                                                                      | 10       | lawyer at the closing?                                                              |
| 11       | MR. BASSETT: Same objections.                                                     | 11       | MR. BASSETT: Same objection.                                                        |
| 12       | A<br>No. The only evidence I would                                                | 12       | A<br>No.                                                                            |
| 13       | have for that is that I arranged for the                                          | 13       | Q<br>And you don't know the identity of                                             |
| 14       | funds to be there through Max and the                                             | 14       | the account holder that sent money to the                                           |
| 15       | lawyer. And Max and the lawyer arranged for                                       | 15       | seller's lawyer?                                                                    |
| 16       | the funds to purchase the home. And those                                         | 16       | MR. BASSETT: Same objection.                                                        |
| 17       | funds came through on time, but I had no                                          | 17       | A<br>No.                                                                            |
| 18       | responsibilities to where those funds came                                        | 18       | Q<br>You don't know if it was an                                                    |
| 19       | from and I had no knowledge either.                                               | 19       | individual or an entity, right?                                                     |
| 20       | Q<br>You had no knowledge of where the                                            | 20       | MR. BASSETT: Same objection.                                                        |
| 21       | funds came from?                                                                  | 21       | A<br>I did not. Perhaps the attorney                                                |
| 22       | A<br>No. I mean, they came from the                                               | 22       | would have known that.                                                              |
| 23       | buyer and that's, you know, as far as I was                                       | 23       | Q<br>We're just -- this is your                                                     |
| 24<br>25 | concerned it was Miles.<br>Q<br>Mr. de Neree, as I said at the top                | 24<br>25 | deposition, Mr. de Neree. I just want to<br>know what you know.                     |

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| 1        | You don't know whether the --                                           | 1        | Q<br>Do you know how old Mr. Krasner                 |
| 2        | A<br>No.                                                                | 2        | is?                                                  |
| 3        | Q<br>-- holder of the account that sent                                 | 3        | A<br>I have no idea. As I said, I have               |
| 4        | the purchase proceeds to the seller's lawyer                            | 4        | not met him. So, I would imagine that                |
| 5        | was an individual or an entity?                                         | 5        | he's -- he had --                                    |
| 6        | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                               | 6        | Q<br>Well, don't imagine. I just want                |
| 7        | form.                                                                   | 7        | to know if you know how old he is?                   |
| 8        | A<br>I don't know.                                                      | 8        | A<br>No. I don't.                                    |
| 9        | Q<br>And if it was an entity that owned                                 | 9        | Q<br>When was last time you spoke with               |
| 10       | the account that sent the purchase proceeds                             | 10       | Mr. Krasner?                                         |
| 11       | to the seller's lawyer, you don't know who                              | 11       | A<br>I think it's around the time that               |
| 12       | owns that entity?                                                       | 12       | the texts end. Let me look that the date.            |
| 13       | MR. BASSETT: Same objection.                                            | 13       | August 23, I would imagine that                      |
| 14       | A<br>No.                                                                | 14       | was a year ago. A year ago last                      |
| 15       | Q<br>Did Mr. Krasner attend any of the                                  | 15       | communication with him.                              |
| 16       | showings that you arranged?                                             | 16       | Q<br>Okay. You were shown some text                  |
| 17       | A<br>No.                                                                | 17       | messages earlier during the deposition by            |
| 18       | Q<br>Did you ever meet Mr. Krasner in                                   | 18       | Mr. Bassett. And on at least one occasion,           |
| 19       | person?                                                                 | 19       | perhaps more, you arranged for meetings              |
| 20       | A<br>No.                                                                | 20       | at -- at a property in Greenwich,                    |
| 21       | Q<br>Did you do any diligence to                                        | 21       | Connecticut by texting with Mr. Krasner; is          |
| 22       | determine if the person you were speaking to                            | 22       | that correct?                                        |
| 23       | was really Mr. Krasner?                                                 | 23       | A<br>That's correct.                                 |
| 24       | MR. BASSETT: Objection.                                                 | 24       | Q<br>And you never texted with Miles,                |
| 25       | A<br>No diligence, no.                                                  | 25       | right?                                               |
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| 1        | A<br>That's correct.                                                    | 1        | or wire transfer?                                    |
| 2        | Q<br>You testified in response to one                                   | 2        | MR. BASSETT: Objection as to                         |
| 3        | of my questions a little while ago, that at                             | 3        | form.                                                |
| 4        | 373 Taconic Road in the Greenwich,                                      | 4        | A<br>Do not recall. He was paid one                  |
| 5        | Connecticut you met Miles' wife and his son                             | 5        | way or the other via Max. Because Max was            |
| 6        | and his daughter, correct?                                              | 6        | instructed -- you know, I gave Max the               |
| 7        | A<br>Correct.                                                           | 7        | contact information and so on and so forth.          |
| 8        | Q<br>I assume that meeting at Taconic                                   | 8        | Q<br>Was the inspector paid in cash?                 |
| 9        | Road was something you arranged through                                 | 9        | A<br>I do not --                                     |
| 10       | Mr. Krasner?                                                            | 10       | MR. BASSETT: Form.                                   |
| 11       | A<br>Yes.                                                               | 11       | A<br>-- know.                                        |
| 12       | Q<br>And having arranged it through                                     | 12       | Q<br>Did you see Miles hand the                      |
| 13       | Mr. Krasner, Miles' wife and his son and his                            | 13       | inspector cash?                                      |
| 14       | daughter appeared at the property?                                      | 14       | A<br>No.                                             |
| 15       | A<br>Yes.                                                               | 15       | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                            |
| 16       | Q<br>You testified earlier in a                                         | 16       | form.                                                |
| 17       | response to a question by Mr. Bassett that                              | 17       | Q<br>Did can you see Miles hand the                  |
| 18       | Miles paid directly for the inspection, was                             | 18       | inspector a check?                                   |
| 19       | that at 373 Taconic Road in Greenwich                                   | 19       | A<br>No.                                             |
| 20       | Connecticut?                                                            | 20       | Q<br>Did you witness Miles executing a               |
| 21       | A<br>Yes.                                                               | 21       | wire transfer to the inspector?                      |
| 22       | Q<br>Do you recall who performed the                                    | 22       | MR. BASSETT: Objection.                              |
| 23       | inspection?                                                             | 23       | A<br>No.                                             |
| 24<br>25 | A<br>An independent inspector.<br>Q<br>Was that inspector paid by check | 24<br>25 | Q<br>Do you know how much the inspector<br>was paid? |

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| 1      | A<br>No, I don't recall. But the                                              | 1      | it just said everything's fine.             |
| 2      | amount would have been under a thousand --                                    | 2      | Q<br>Do you know the source of the          |
| 3      | somewhere around \$1,200, maybe for a house                                   | 3      | funds that were for any payment to any      |
| 4      | that big.                                                                     | 4      | inspector regarding 373 Taconic Road in     |
| 5      | Q<br>You're basing that on your                                               | 5      | Greenwich, Connecticut?                     |
| 6      | experience in the real estate industry,                                       | 6      | A<br>No. I do not.                          |
| 7      | correct?                                                                      | 7      | Q<br>I'm going to ask you, sir, if you      |
| 8      | A<br>Correct and having dealt with an                                         | 8      | could look at Exhibit 3, which are the text |
| 9      | inspector before.                                                             | 9      | messages.                                   |
| 10     | Q<br>Okay. But you're not specifically                                        | 10     | A<br>Tab 3, yeah. Yeah.                     |
| 11     | recalling what the charge was for this                                        | 11     | Q<br>And if you could look at the text      |
| 12     | particular inspection at 373 Taconic Road in                                  | 12     | message from January 22, 2019 at 3:38 p.m.? |
| 13     | the Greenwich, Connecticut, right?                                            | 13     | A<br>What page are we on? January,          |
| 14     | A<br>No. I did not receive a copy of                                          | 14     | what did you say?                           |
| 15     | the report. I don't have a copy of the                                        | 15     | Q<br>January 22, 2019.                      |
| 16     | report. It was paid by the buyers via Max                                     | 16     | A<br>Okay.                                  |
| 17     | Krasner. And there was also -- there was an                                   | 17     | Q<br>And you looked at this with            |
| 18     | inspection report of the building, there was                                  | 18     | Mr. Bassett earlier. The next text jumps    |
| 19     | an inspection separately done of the septic                                   | 19     | more than a year ahead, to                  |
| 20     | system by Bond, he was paid, also,                                            | 20     | February 11, 2020. Do you see that?         |
| 21     | separately. And there must have been                                          | 21     | A<br>Yeah.                                  |
| 22     | something about the water, the well, that                                     | 22     | Q<br>It says:                               |
| 23     | they inspected because I do have a copy of                                    | 23     | "Also, if you think there are               |
| 24     | that report. I don't know for what reason                                     | 24     | other options that might interest Miles,    |
| 25     | I've got it, but I found it in my file. And                                   | 25     | please forward and we will review them."    |
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| 1      | Do you see that?                                                              | 1      | it. I'm just asking you that it's certainly |
| 2<br>3 | A<br>Yes.                                                                     | 2      | a possibility that there's a missing text   |
| 4      | Q<br>It looks to me that there must<br>have been a proceeding message, right? | 3<br>4 | messages or missing text messages in this   |
| 5      | Because someone wouldn't write more than a                                    | 5      | chain?<br>MR. BASSETT: Objection to         |
| 6      | year later a sentence that starts "also,"                                     | 6      | form. Counsel, I'll remind you that         |
| 7      | wouldn't there be some form of introduction                                   | 7      | you took pains to ask him not to            |
| 8      | to recognize the passage of more than a year                                  | 8      | speculate.                                  |
| 9      | between messages?                                                             | 9      | Q<br>You can answer the question, sir.      |
| 10     | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                     | 10     | A<br>No. I -- I have no reason to           |
| 11     | form.                                                                         | 11     | assume that's possible.                     |
| 12     | A<br>Yes. Probably a telephone                                                | 12     | Q<br>Well, the messages can be deleted      |
| 13     | conversation.                                                                 | 13     | on your -- on your -- either on your phone  |
| 14     | Q<br>Probably?                                                                | 14     | or on your Mac, correct?                    |
| 15     | Do you remember a telephone                                                   | 15     | MR. BASSETT: Objection. This                |
| 16     | conversation?                                                                 | 16     | is getting ridiculous.                      |
| 17     | A<br>No.                                                                      | 17     | A<br>I have not deleted any messages.       |
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 Q You're phone is capable of deleting messages, correct?

 MR. BASSETT: Objection. A Yes. But I -- I have had no reason to delete messages. I never delete messages. Messages are kept forever. Q Your Mac is capable of the deleting text messages, correct?

 Q Is there a chance that there are messages that are missing from this text

MR. BASSETT: Objection to

Q I'm -- I'm not trying to assume

A No. There is no reason to assume

chain?

form.

that at all.

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| 1      | MR. BASSETT: Objection.                                                          | 1      | particular in Greenwich, but elsewhere, it's                                        |
| 2      | A<br>I assume so.                                                                | 2      | not uncommon for residential properties to                                          |
| 3      | Q<br>Do you know who owns Greenwich                                              | 3      | be owned by limited liability companies,                                            |
| 4      | Land, LLC?                                                                       | 4      | right?                                                                              |
| 5      | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                        | 5      | A<br>Correct.                                                                       |
| 6      | form.                                                                            | 6      | Q<br>Do you understand that a limited                                               |
| 7      | A<br>Other than the lawyer who received                                          | 7      | liability company is owned by its member or                                         |
| 8      | the funds to buy the purchase in the name of                                     | 8      | members?                                                                            |
| 9      | Land, LLC, no. I -- I can only assume that                                       | 9      | A<br>Yes.                                                                           |
| 10     | the money came through and that the purchase                                     | 10     | Q<br>So a member in an LLC is analogous                                             |
| 11     | went through. That's it. I don't --                                              | 11     | to a stockholder of a corporation, right?                                           |
| 12     | Q<br>So you don't know who owns                                                  | 12     | A<br>I guess.                                                                       |
| 13     | Greenwich Land, LLC?                                                             | 13     | Q<br>Do you know the identity of any                                                |
| 14     | A<br>No source of funds. No source of                                            | 14     | member of Greenwich Land, LLC?                                                      |
| 15     | funds. Well, I know that Miles instructed                                        | 15     | A<br>No.                                                                            |
| 16     | the purchase and that's as far as I know.                                        | 16     | Q<br>Around the time of the purchase,                                               |
| 17     | Q<br>Okay. Let's -- let's talk about                                             | 17     | did you do anything to determine who the                                            |
| 18     | that.                                                                            | 18     | member or members were of Greenwich Land,                                           |
| 19     | When you say "Miles instructed the                                               | 19     | LLC?                                                                                |
| 20     | purchase," were you privy to conversation                                        | 20     | A<br>No.                                                                            |
| 21     | between Miles and any lawyer?                                                    | 21     | Q<br>Do you know whether Miles' wife --                                             |
| 22     | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                        | 22     | withdrawn.                                                                          |
| 23     | form.                                                                            | 23     | Do you know what language or                                                        |
| 24     | A<br>No.                                                                         | 24     | languages Miles' wife speaks?                                                       |
| 25     | Q<br>You testified that you -- that                                              | 25     | MR. BASSETT: Object to form.                                                        |
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| 1      | A<br>I do not. Chinese. I don't even                                             | 1      | from 1:00 PM to 1:19 PM.)                                                           |
| 2      | know, Mandarin or Cantonese. Chinese,                                            | 2      | VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back                                                       |
| 3      | that's all I know. Very limited English.                                         | 3      | on the record. The time is 1:19.                                                    |
| 4      | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, did you in your                                               | 4      | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, do you understand                                                |
| 5      | capacity as broker receive a copy of the                                         | 5<br>6 | that you're still under oath?                                                       |
| 6      | purchase contract for 373 Taconic Road in                                        | 7      | A<br>Yes.                                                                           |
| 7      | Greenwich, Connecticut?                                                          | 8      | Q<br>Have you ever represented a                                                    |
| 8<br>9 | A<br>Yes.                                                                        | 9      | partner of Paul Hastings in connection with<br>a potential real estate transaction? |
| 10     | Q<br>And who was the buyer under that                                            | 10     | A<br>Yes, I have. Tom Kruger, a partner                                             |
| 11     | contract?                                                                        | 11     | at the time is a friend and client.                                                 |
| 12     | A<br>Greenwich Land, LLC.<br>Q<br>Did you ever see any contract for              | 12     | Q<br>And I take it Mr. Kruger has                                                   |
| 13     |                                                                                  | 13     | referred other potential clients to you?                                            |
| 14     | 373 Taconic Road in the Greenwich,<br>Connecticut with a different buyer listed? | 14     | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                                                           |
| 15     | A<br>No.                                                                         | 15     | form.                                                                               |
| 16     | MR. MAJOR: I don't have too                                                      | 16     | A<br>I don't remember who specifically,                                             |
| 17     |                                                                                  | 17     | but yes he has definitely promoted me and                                           |
| 18     | much more. Why don't we take a<br>10-minute break, Mr. de Neree, if              | 18     | helped me get other listings or buyers.                                             |
| 19     | that's okay with you, and then we'll                                             | 19     | Q<br>Do you ever work on any                                                        |
| 20     |                                                                                  | 20     | transactions for his brother, Chip?                                                 |
| 21     | come back on the record.<br>THE WITNESS: Yeah.                                   | 21     | MR. BASSETT: Object to form.                                                        |
| 22     |                                                                                  | 22     | A<br>Yes. I have.                                                                   |
| 23     | VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now<br>going off the record. The time is                    | 23     | Q<br>And did you get further referrals                                              |
| 24     | 1:00 p.m.                                                                        | 24     | from Chip Kruger?                                                                   |
| 25     | (Whereupon, a recess was taken                                                   | 25     | A<br>Not that I can remember                                                        |

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| 1        | specifically, but it wouldn't surprise me if          | 1        | house?                                                                                     |
| 2        | I got recommended by him to someone else              | 2        | A<br>Yes.                                                                                  |
| 3        | whom with I subsequently had some business.           | 3        | Q<br>Did you observe the son or the                                                        |
| 4        | Q<br>I want to ask you some questions,                | 4        | daughter communicating with Miles's wife?                                                  |
| 5        | Mr. de Neree, about the time you were at 373          | 5        | A<br>I'm sure -- no, I don't remember                                                      |
| 6        | Taconic Road property when Miles' wife, son           | 6        | specifically, I don't have any specific                                                    |
| 7        | and daughter were there. The first question           | 7        | recollection of that.                                                                      |
| 8        | is, I assume you greeted Miles's wife in              | 8        | Q<br>Did you walk around the house with                                                    |
| 9        | some fashion notwithstanding the language             | 9        | Mile's wife, son and daughter?                                                             |
| 10       | barrier?                                              | 10       | A<br>Yes.                                                                                  |
| 11       | A<br>Yep.                                             | 11       | Q<br>Did you witness any conversation                                                      |
| 12       | Q<br>Did you speak with Miles' son?                   | 12       | taking place in a Chinese language whether                                                 |
| 13       | A<br>I don't remember a conversation                  | 13       | that be Mandarin or Cantonese?                                                             |
| 14       | with his son. I do remember a conversation            | 14       | A<br>Yes.                                                                                  |
| 15       | with his daughter. She told me she was a              | 15       | Q<br>But you don't understand what was                                                     |
| 16       | film student in New York and it happened to           | 16       | being said, right?                                                                         |
| 17       | be that my son was a film student not in New          | 17       | A<br>Correct.                                                                              |
| 18       | York, but there was some commonalities so we          | 18       | Q<br>Was there anyone there translating                                                    |
| 19       | talked about the film business and the film           | 19       | for you?                                                                                   |
| 20       | study that she was going through.                     | 20       | A<br>No.                                                                                   |
| 21       | Q<br>Did they look at the house?                      | 21       | Q<br>The conversation that was taken                                                       |
| 22       | A<br>Yes.                                             | 22       | place in a Chinese language, whether that be                                               |
| 23       | Q<br>Did they go inside the house?                    | 23       | Mandarin or Cantonese, that was a                                                          |
| 24       | A<br>Yes.                                             | 24       | conversation among Miles' wife, son and                                                    |
| 25       | Q<br>Did they walk around inside the                  | 25       | daughter, right?                                                                           |
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| 1        | MR. BASSETT: Object to form.                          | 1        | MR. BASSETT:                                                                               |
| 2        | A<br>Correct. You mentioned all four,                 | 2        | A<br>Okay.                                                                                 |
| 3        | right, Miles, his wife, and his son, and his          | 3        | Q<br>So if I could have, we'll start by                                                    |
| 4        | daughter, they spoke amongst themselves in            | 4        | having my colleague please put another                                                     |
| 5        | Chinese at times.                                     | 5        | exhibit, which is a picture, into the chat.                                                |
| 6        | Q<br>While they were walking around the               | 6        | And this will be marked as de Neree                                                        |
| 7        | interior of the house?                                | 7        | Exhibit 7, I believe.                                                                      |
| 8        | A<br>Correct.                                         | 8        | (Whereupon, Picture of Miles Guo                                                           |
| 9        | Q<br>And perhaps also on the grounds of               | 9        | was marked as Exhibit 7 for                                                                |
| 10       | the property?                                         | 10       | identification as of this date.)                                                           |
| 11       | A<br>Yes.                                             | 11       | A<br>Yes. I have it.                                                                       |
| 12       | Q<br>Can I just have a moment please,                 | 12       | Q<br>Mr. de Neree, do you recognize the                                                    |
| 13       | sir. Mr. de Neree, the meeting at 373                 | 13       | person in this picture?                                                                    |
| 14       | Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut that           | 14       | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                                                              |
| 15       | was attended by Miles's wife, the son and             | 15       | A<br>Miles.                                                                                |
| 16       | daughter, did that happen before closing of           | 16       | Q<br>This is the person that you've                                                        |
| 17       | the purchase of 373 Taconic Road?                     | 17       | been referring to throughout your testimony                                                |
| 18       | A<br>Yes.                                             | 18       | as Miles?                                                                                  |
| 19       | MR. MAJOR: Thank you very                             | 19       | A<br>Yes.                                                                                  |
| 20       | much for your time, Mr. de Neree.                     | 20       | Q<br>And you know that from having met                                                     |
| 21       | We have no further questions at this                  | 21       | him on multiple occasions?                                                                 |
| 22       | time.                                                 | 22       | A<br>Correct.                                                                              |
| 23       | MR. BASSETT: I do have a few                          | 23       | Q<br>You testified again, during your                                                      |
| 24<br>25 | additional questions, Mr. de Neree.<br>EXAMINATION BY | 24<br>25 | examination by Mr. Major about Mr. Krasner,<br>and I believe what you told me this morning |

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| 1  | is, the individual you've been referring to  | 1  | Mr. Krasner about arranging times to see the |
| 2  | as Mr. Krasner contacted you about helping   | 2  | property; do you remember that?              |
| 3  | Miles find a property to buy, correct?       | 3  | A<br>Correct.                                |
| 4  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 4  | Q<br>And Mr. Krasner told you that           |
| 5  | A<br>That's correct.                         | 5  | people would show up a certain time,         |
| 6  | Q<br>And based on your interactions          | 6  | correct?                                     |
| 7  | that you describe that you had with Miles,   | 7  | A<br>That's correct.                         |
| 8  | do you have any reason to believe that the   | 8  | Q<br>And one of the persons who showed       |
| 9  | person that you've been describing as        | 9  | up was Miles?                                |
| 10 | Mr. Krasner did not have authority to act on | 10 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 11 | behalf of Miles?                             | 11 | Q<br>There's been some testimony about       |
| 12 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 12 | Mile's wife, do you know her name?           |
| 13 | A<br>No.                                     | 13 | A<br>No. I don't.                            |
| 14 | Q<br>In fact, during your discussions        | 14 | Q<br>This meeting, and to be clear,          |
| 15 | that you had with Miles in person, he told   | 15 | this meeting that you were describing where  |
| 16 | you to work with this person you've been     | 16 | the wife, the son and daughter were present, |
| 17 | referring to as Mr. Krasner to help complete | 17 | was Miles also there?                        |
| 18 | the purchase of the property at Taconic      | 18 | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 19 | Road, right?                                 | 19 | Q<br>You testified that you don't know       |
| 20 | MR. BASSETT: Objection to                    | 20 | who the members who own -- member or         |
| 21 | form.                                        | 21 | members, who own Greenwich Land, LLC., are,  |
| 22 | A<br>That's correct.                         | 22 | do you remember that?                        |
| 23 | Q<br>And there were some text messages       | 23 | A<br>That's correct.                         |
| 24 | we looked at when you wear talking about     | 24 | Q<br>But based on all of your                |
| 25 | showing properties and you were texting with | 25 | interactions with Miles and Mr. Krasner that |
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| 1  | you discussed, it was your understanding     |    |                                              |
|    |                                              | 1  | A<br>No.                                     |
| 2  | that Miles ultimately was the one who was    | 2  | Q<br>You were asked some questions           |
| 3  | making the decision as to buy the Taconic    | 3  | about business relationship properties you   |
| 4  | Road property, right?                        | 4  | had sold for Mr. Tom Kruger, a partner at    |
| 5  | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 5  | Paul Hastings; do you remember that?         |
| 6  | A<br>That's correct.                         | 6  | A<br>Yes.                                    |
| 7  | Q<br>You also testified that people          | 7  | Q<br>Do you know whether he is still a       |
| 8  | use, in your experience as a realtor, LLCs   | 8  | partner at Paul Hastings?                    |
| 9  | to complete their property purchases?        | 9  | A<br>No. He retired in January of this       |
| 10 | A<br>That's correct.                         | 10 | year.                                        |
| 11 | Q<br>And that is what you understood         | 11 | Q<br>Okay. And have you spoken to            |
| 12 | was happening here with respect to Greenwich | 12 | Mr. Kruger about any of the substance        |
| 13 | Land and Miles, correct?                     | 13 | related to this case at all?                 |
| 14 | A<br>That's correct.                         | 14 | A<br>I did have a conversation with him      |
| 15 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 15 | mentioning that I had been subpoenaed. And   |
| 16 | Q<br>In all of your interactions with        | 16 | he said, you know, you better check with     |
| 17 | Miles and Mr. Krasner, did you ever come to  | 17 | your legal department at Coldwell Banker,    |
| 18 | have an understanding that anyone other than | 18 | make sure that you're properly represented   |
| 19 | Miles was making the decisions with respect  | 19 | and so forth and so on, that's all I         |
| 20 | to the purchase of a Taconic Road property?  | 20 | remember him advising me.                    |
| 21 | A<br>No.                                     | 21 | Q<br>Nothing about the substance of          |
| 22 | MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.                | 22 | this case, to your knowledge?                |
| 23 | Q<br>Did Miles ever tell you that his        | 23 | A<br>No.                                     |
| 24 | wife was the one who was purchasing the      | 24 | Q<br>Has your relationship with              |
| 25 | Taconic Road property?                       | 25 | Mr. Kruger in any way impacted the           |

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| 3                                                                 | MR. BASSETT: One moment,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  | 3<br>EMILE DE NEREE                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                |  |  |  |  |  |
| 4                                                                 | please.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   | 4                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |  |  |  |  |  |
| 5                                                                 | No more questions.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        | 5                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |  |  |  |  |  |
| 6                                                                 | VIDEOGRAPHER: Okay. That                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  | 6<br>Subscribed and sworn to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       |  |  |  |  |  |
| 7                                                                 | concludes today's deposition. We                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          | before me on this ____ day                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         |  |  |  |  |  |
| 8                                                                 | are going off the record at                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               | 7<br>of ___________, __________.<br>8                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |  |  |  |  |  |
| 9                                                                 | 1:34 p.m.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 | 9<br>_______________________________                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |  |  |  |  |  |
| 10                                                                | COURT REPORTER: Mr. Bassett,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              | Notary Public                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      |  |  |  |  |  |
| 11                                                                | are you ordering a copy of the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            | 10                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 12                                                                | transcript?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               | 11                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 13                                                                | MR. BASSETT: Yes.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         | 12                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 14                                                                | COURT REPORTER: Do you want a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 15                                                                | rough?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    | 14                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 16                                                                | MR. BASSETT: What's the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   | 15<br>16                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           |  |  |  |  |  |
| 17                                                                | turnaround time on the final?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             | 17                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 18                                                                | COURT REPORTER: Eight to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  | 18                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 19                                                                | 10 days.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  | 19                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 20                                                                | MR. BASSETT: Yeah. We                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     | 20                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 21                                                                | probably should have a rough, just                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        | 21                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 22                                                                | in case.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  | 22                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 23                                                                | (Whereupon, this examination was                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          | 23                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 24                                                                | concluded at 1:34 PM.)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    | 24                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
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| 1<br>2<br>3<br>4<br>5<br>6<br>7<br>8<br>9<br>10<br>11<br>12<br>13 | I N D E X<br>WITNESS: EMILE DE NEREE<br>EXAMINATION BY<br>PAGE<br>MR. BASSETT<br>6<br>MR. MAJOR<br>65<br>MR. BASSETT<br>104<br>E X H I B I T S<br>EXHIBIT<br>DESCRIPTION<br>PAGE<br>Exhibit 1<br>Emile de Neree's<br>10<br>Compass Transactions<br>Exhibit 2<br>Exclusive Right to<br>18<br>Represent Buyer<br>Agreement (GREE002323)<br>Exhibit 3<br>Text Messages<br>27 | 1<br>C E R T I F I C A T E<br>2<br>3<br>I, KIARA MILLER,<br>4<br>A Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public of the<br>5<br>State of New York, do hereby certify:<br>6<br>7<br>That the witness whose examination is<br>8<br>hereinbefore set forth, was duly sworn or<br>9<br>affirmed by me, and the foregoing transcript is<br>10<br>a true record of the testimony given by such<br>11<br>witness.<br>12<br>13<br>I further certify that I am not related to any<br>14<br>of the parties to this action by blood or |  |  |  |  |  |
| 14                                                                |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           | 15<br>marriage, and that I am in no way interested in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |  |  |  |  |  |
| 15                                                                | Exhibit 4<br>Offer to Purchase Real 48                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    | 16<br>the outcome of this matter.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  |  |  |  |  |  |
| 16                                                                | Estate (GREE02327)<br>Exhibit 5<br>Email (WBAM_009051)<br>52                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              | 17                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
| 17                                                                | Exhibit 6<br>Residential Real Estate 55                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   | 18                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
|                                                                   | Sales Agreement                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           | 19<br>_________________________                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    |  |  |  |  |  |
| 18<br>19                                                          | (GREE02328)<br>Exhibit 7<br>Picture of Miles Guo<br>105                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   | 20<br>KIARA MILLER                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |  |  |  |  |  |
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Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-39 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 31

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| 1<br>2<br>3<br>4<br>5<br>6<br>7<br>8<br>9<br>10<br>11<br>12<br>13<br>14<br>15 | E R R A T A S H E E T<br>NAME OF CASE: KWOK v. GREENWICH LAND<br>DATE OF DEPOSITION: August 24, 2023<br>NAME OF WITNESS: EMILE DE NEREE<br>Reason codes:<br>1. To clarify the record.<br>2. To conform to the facts.<br>3. To correct transcription errors.<br>Page ____ Line ____ Reason____<br>From ___________________ to_________________<br>Page ____ Line ____ Reason____<br>From ___________________ to_________________<br>Page ____ Line ____ Reason____<br>From ___________________ to_________________<br>Page ____ Line ____ Reason____<br>From ___________________ to_________________ |  |
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| A                          | affirmed<br>113:9        | appointments           | attended<br>104:15        | 2:1 4:10 67:3,6            |
|----------------------------|--------------------------|------------------------|---------------------------|----------------------------|
| a.m<br>2:19 4:4            | afternoon<br>65:23       | 32:20                  | attending<br>4:14         | 67:10,16 70:10             |
| 76:8                       | against-<br>1:11         | appreciate<br>6:10     | attention<br>43:22        | 70:16 74:10                |
| able<br>15:18 42:19        | 2:11                     | approached             | 55:2                      | barrier<br>102:10          |
| 30:12<br>absolutely        | 59:20<br>agenda          | 26:22 45:5             | 4:21<br>attorney          | 6:23<br>based              |
| 53:10                      | 60:10                    | 70:13                  | 86:13,14 87:11            | 38:21 42:20                |
| accepted<br>15:23          | agent<br>38:14,17        | appropriate            | 87:13 89:21               | 51:2 106:6                 |
| 46:7 86:11                 | 59:23                    | 9:19                   | August<br>1:19            | 107:24                     |
| access<br>7:23             | ago<br>9:2,8 91:14       | approximate            | 2:19 4:3 30:21            | basically<br>9:18          |
| 31:19 33:5,10              | 91:14 92:3               | 32:8,14                | 31:9,14 53:5              | 19:14 44:15                |
| 81:17                      | 23:13<br>agreed          | approximately          | 53:10,22 71:4             | 94:5<br>basing             |
| account<br>15:14           | 84:3                     | 14:22 44:24            | 91:13 114:4               | Bassett<br>3:7 4:22        |
| 33:9 79:14                 | agreeing<br>88:7         | architect<br>57:18     | Austin<br>3:14 5:10       | 4:23 6:4,6 18:4            |
| 89:9,14 90:3               | agreement<br>16:4        | architects<br>58:2     | authority                 | 27:21 30:7                 |
| 90:10                      | 18:2,9,18,19             | 58:12,20               | 106:10                    | 48:1,20 51:23              |
| 54:1<br>accounts           | 18:23 20:21              | 85:23<br>arranged      | 14:17<br>available        | 52:4 55:21                 |
| 11:8<br>accurate           | 22:13 26:4,17            | 86:3 88:13,15          | 17:9 45:8                 | 64:24 65:13                |
| 28:20 54:11                | 55:16 56:5<br>57:6 81:21 | 90:16 91:19<br>92:9,12 | 64:15<br>Avenue<br>3:4,10 | 66:8,25 70:4<br>72:21 74:6 |
| acknowledged               | 84:14 112:12             | arranging<br>107:1     | 6:1                       | 76:13 78:1,16              |
| 46:9                       | 112:17                   | 16:25<br>asked         | 73:19,20<br>Avi           | 79:4 84:23                 |
| acquire<br>21:9            | 20:18<br>agrees          | 20:8 38:15             | 77:9 78:18                | 85:3,13,19                 |
| 22:3 63:18                 | ahead<br>13:9            | 43:7 83:9 86:2         | avoid<br>89:2             | 86:8 87:16                 |
| 64:4                       | 95:19                    | 109:2                  | aware<br>13:8 31:1        | 88:2,11 89:6               |
| acres<br>64:11             | al<br>1:5 2:5            | asking<br>31:24        | 31:14 33:12               | 89:11,16,20                |
| act<br>106:10              | alert<br>32:19           | 34:25 42:11            | 59:6 85:16                | 90:6,13,24                 |
| acted<br>85:10             | 28:25<br>aligned         | 53:16,25 79:8          |                           | 91:18 92:17                |
| 32:5 35:4<br>acting        | 29:1                     | 97:1                   | B                         | 93:2,10,15,22              |
| 113:14<br>action<br>16:7   | allow<br>29:25           | asks<br>65:19          | 112:8<br>B                | 95:18 96:10,21             |
| actions<br>actual<br>20:15 | allows<br>34:20          | aspect<br>59:3         | back<br>8:1 9:25          | 97:5,15,20                 |
| added<br>20:8,10           | ambiguity<br>24:9        | assistant<br>14:12     | 20:23 23:8                | 98:1,5,22                  |
| 20:19                      | 94:2<br>amount           | 55:1 85:24             | 33:25 34:9                | 99:25 101:14               |
| addendum                   | 99:10<br>analogous       | 11:1<br>assortment     | 45:11 48:10               | 101:21 104:1               |
| 19:16,18                   | answer<br>6:24           | assume<br>10:3         | 55:3 56:14,16             | 104:23 105:1               |
| addition<br>78:23          | 7:12,17 14:1             | 43:7 66:19             | 65:4,11 72:2              | 106:20 110:3               |
| additional<br>16:11        | 30:1 38:16,17            | 92:8 96:23,25          | 77:4 100:20               | 110:10,13,16               |
| 20:16 48:13                | 51:10 66:8               | 97:11 98:2,9           | 101:2                     | 110:20 112:4,6             |
| 104:24                     | 97:9                     | 102:8                  | background                | 18:14<br>Bates             |
| address<br>5:21            | apologies<br>75:19       | assumption             | 11:16                     | 48:24 52:15                |
| 20:15 27:6                 | apologize<br>55:10       | 21:13 89:4             | 89:9<br>bank              | 55:25                      |
| ADK@MSF-                   | appear<br>71:18          | attached<br>19:20      | Banker<br>9:1,1           | beautiful<br>64:10         |
| 3:12                       | 72:11,13                 | attachment             | 20:17 24:13,19            | began<br>16:19             |
| 1:13<br>Adv                | 92:14<br>appeared        | 34:21                  | 33:8,12,20                | 4:20<br>beginning          |
| 5:1,9<br>adversary         | Apple<br>28:21           | attachments            | 79:15 80:15               | 9:6 58:7                   |
| 66:1                       | apply<br>66:6            | 82:10                  | 81:14,24 82:20            | behalf<br>2:17 3:3         |
| advising<br>109:20         | appointment              | attempt<br>69:5        | 87:2 109:17               | 3:9 4:24 6:21              |
|                            | 61:19                    | attend<br>90:15        | bankruptcy<br>1:1         | 32:5 35:4                  |

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| 76:11 77:24                           | 85:7,10 100:5                 | 76:3                         | 82:16<br>check                      | 9:1 20:17                 |
| 106:11                                | 83:17<br>brokers              | 100:2<br>Cantonese           | 92:25 93:18                         | 24:13,19 33:8             |
| believe<br>8:21                       | brother<br>101:20             | 103:13,23                    | 109:16                              | 33:11,19 79:15            |
| 10:21 12:5                            | budget<br>9:20                | capable<br>97:18             | checked<br>83:21                    | 80:15 81:14,24            |
| 14:22,25 26:1                         | building<br>59:15             | 97:24                        | checking<br>81:13                   | 82:20 87:1                |
| 26:21 42:6,8                          | 94:18                         | capacity<br>100:5            | Chi<br>1:13 2:13                    | 109:17                    |
| 42:12 59:11                           | 11:24<br>bunch                | 22:14<br>caps                | 4:8 5:7 66:2                        | 5:3<br>colleague          |
| 60:10 67:18                           | 17:7                          | care<br>83:21                | chief<br>81:15                      | 10:7 17:23                |
| 69:22 71:15                           | Burke<br>53:3                 | Carstensen<br>3:19           | children<br>69:12                   | 27:14 48:14               |
| 73:15 74:20,23                        | business<br>70:19             | 4:15                         | 69:15                               | 55:13 105:4               |
| 76:3 78:4                             | 102:3,19 109:3                | case<br>1:7 2:7 6:15         | Chinese<br>100:1,2                  | colleagues<br>51:24       |
| 79:21 80:2                            | 12:6 50:11<br>buy             | 12:24 13:4                   | 103:12,22                           | 82:20                     |
| 82:10 105:7,25                        | 50:22 51:12                   | 23:18,20 28:8                | 104:5                               | combination               |
| 106:8                                 | 64:20 98:8                    | 28:14 30:9                   | Chip<br>101:20,24                   | 12:3,6                    |
| best<br>7:3 31:12                     | 106:3 108:3                   | 36:13 38:14                  | Chris<br>5:6 65:24                  | come<br>16:23             |
| 42:1 45:23                            | buyer<br>9:14,21              | 47:12 57:17                  | CHRISTOPH                           | 34:18 38:22               |
| 75:24                                 | 10:4 15:22                    | 66:10,24 70:17               | 3:13                                | 47:4 54:20                |
| 109:16<br>better<br>big<br>17:4 80:23 | 18:2,9,18,20<br>19:1 20:17,18 | 72:20 73:6<br>74:5 109:13,22 | 80:20<br>Church<br>city<br>71:20,21 | 63:22 70:18<br>78:24 83:8 |
| 94:4                                  | 24:19 25:17,24                | 110:22 114:3                 | 75:5,9,15                           | 87:12 100:20              |
| bit<br>14:24 22:9                     | 50:3,7,17                     | cash<br>93:8,13              | 77:15,20 78:5                       | 108:17                    |
| 27:12 31:23                           | 51:16 84:14,20                | cause<br>19:14               | 78:11,15 82:3                       | comfortable<br>7:9        |
| 113:14<br>blood                       | 85:11 87:12                   | 81:24                        | CJM@MSF-                            | 86:16<br>coming           |
| 45:4<br>blue                          | 88:23 100:9,14                | 36:12<br>cell                | 3:12                                | commencing                |
| boat<br>17:4                          | 112:12                        | Central<br>77:3              | clarification                       | 2:19                      |
| Bond<br>94:20                         | buyer's<br>22:13              | certain<br>53:16             | 15:13 59:21                         | comments<br>38:4          |
| bone<br>36:20                         | 23:25 24:18,21                | 107:5                        | clarify<br>7:3 87:9                 | commission                |
| bosses<br>81:14                       | 25:4 86:14                    | certainly<br>97:1            | 114:7                               | 23:21 86:18,22            |
| 18:14<br>bottom                       | 9:11<br>buyers                | 113:5,13<br>certify          | 31:8,12<br>clear                    | 87:3,7,10,11              |
| 22:11,12,20                           | 50:10 94:16                   | cetera<br>42:5,5             | 45:4 47:17                          | commonalities             |
| 48:25 52:16                           | 101:18                        | 43:9                         | 88:6 107:14                         | 102:18                    |
| 53:4 55:24                            | buying<br>26:13               | chain<br>52:23               | client<br>17:1                      | communicate               |
| bought<br>12:1                        | 42:17,23 45:3                 | 96:20 97:4                   | 101:11                              | 27:2                      |
| 53:24 54:6,16                         | 51:2 61:22                    | 96:18<br>chance              | 34:22<br>clients                    | communicated              |
| break<br>7:6,13                       |                               | change<br>51:1,7             | 101:13                              | 26:24                     |
| 48:3 49:11                            | C                             | changed<br>58:24             | close<br>8:5 64:20                  | communicating             |
| 82:16 100:18                          | 3:1 113:1,1<br>C              | changes<br>57:20             | closed<br>47:18                     | 103:4                     |
| breaks<br>7:9                         | calender<br>60:2,3            | 59:3                         | closer<br>46:4                      | communication             |
| 1:3<br>Bridgepoint                    | 60:11                         | 1:6,9<br>Chapter             | 15:25<br>closing                    | 8:7 14:25 27:6            |
| 2:3 4:11                              | call<br>20:20 24:12           | 2:6,9 3:3 4:7                | 42:21,21 47:14                      | 27:7 33:2                 |
| Bridgeport                            | 57:1 71:6                     | 4:24 6:7 12:24               | 53:7 56:11,12                       | 44:22 63:1                |
| 71:19 72:13                           | 16:25<br>called               | 13:4 66:9                    | 57:7 59:22                          | 71:15 72:8                |
| 73:10,24 74:24                        | 18:1 66:16                    | 80:18,22                     | 67:2 89:10                          | 73:21 78:18               |
| broader<br>8:16                       | 71:9 74:3                     | charge<br>70:16              | 104:16                              | 79:11 91:15               |
| 8:11<br>broker                        | 75:15 78:14                   | 94:11                        | 20:14<br>Coast                      | communicatio              |
| 82:23 83:2,9                          | canceled<br>72:17             | chat<br>10:8 48:14           | codes<br>114:6                      | 31:25 32:3                |
| 83:16 84:4                            | 72:18 74:1                    | 55:14 105:5                  | Coldwell<br>8:25                    | 44:16 73:19               |

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| communicator       | 114:7<br>conform   | 99:11               | 32:21               | 27:23,24 29:24      |
| 46:21              | 1:2<br>Connecticut | 8:12<br>correct     | 66:3<br>covering    | 30:14 48:12,22      |
| community          | 2:2 4:11 5:25      | 13:5 17:17,22       | coworkers<br>81:13  | 49:2 52:6,7,14      |
| 11:18,20           | 6:2 8:16,18        | 21:1,2 23:23        | crossed<br>20:1     | 52:19 55:22         |
| companies<br>19:6  | 17:15 20:14,16     | 24:4 25:21          | 23:10 84:5          | 56:3 60:1,8         |
| 21:15 99:3         | 74:20 80:21        | 28:22 29:8,12       | currently<br>34:5   | 65:13,23 88:25      |
| 21:21<br>company   | 81:8 85:18         | 30:20 31:7,10       | 30:4<br>custom      | 89:24 100:4,18      |
| 22:2 59:25         | 86:7,20 87:22      | 31:17,20,21         |                     | 101:4 102:5         |
| 60:5 99:7          | 88:10 91:21        | 34:7 35:20          | D                   | 104:13,20,24        |
| Compass<br>5:25    | 92:5,20 94:13      | 44:14,19 50:1       | D<br>112:1          | 105:6,12 111:3      |
| 8:24 9:3 10:18     | 95:5 100:7,14      | 50:5,25 51:5        | D-E<br>5:24         | 112:2,10 114:5      |
| 10:23 112:10       | 104:14             | 51:13 52:22         | date<br>4:2 10:20   | 114:25              |
| compensate         | 25:2<br>connection | 53:9 56:9,24        | 16:5 18:12          | 42:19<br>deadlines  |
| 20:4               | 86:18 101:8        | 57:7 58:1,4,15      | 27:20 32:9          | deal<br>13:24 49:20 |
| compensated        | considerably       | 58:16 73:12         | 37:18 41:22,24      | dealt<br>94:8       |
| 23:14,18           | 42:12              | 75:5,10 82:13       | 48:19 52:3          | Deane<br>3:19 4:15  |
| compensation       | consistent<br>35:2 | 84:15,18,22,25      | 55:19 56:11,19      | Dear<br>53:23       |
| 20:2 22:10         | 29:17<br>consists  | 85:5 88:1 89:5      | 75:14 78:7          | 12:23<br>debtor     |
| 23:9,16            | contact<br>16:23   | 91:22,23 92:1       | 80:7,12 81:4        | 13:4                |
| complete<br>106:17 | 33:11 76:19        | 92:6,7 94:7,8       | 82:3,11 91:12       | Debtors<br>1:6 2:6  |
| 108:9              | 83:8 93:7          | 97:14,19,25         | 105:10 114:4        | decided<br>42:22    |
| complies<br>76:18  | contacted<br>67:18 | 99:5 103:17         | dated<br>18:23      | 46:5,11 75:14       |
| 8:4<br>computer    | 76:21 106:2        | 104:2,8 105:22      | 30:21 36:2          | 10:4<br>decides     |
| 28:14,17 79:22     | 15:24<br>contract  | 106:3,5,22          | 43:24 49:24         | 38:24<br>decision   |
| Conboy<br>52:24    | 49:22 56:6         | 107:3,6,7,23        | 53:4,22 55:8        | 39:5 46:24          |
| concern<br>26:10   | 81:22 85:12        | 108:6,10,13,14      | 56:7 81:8           | 50:22 51:12         |
| concerned<br>88:24 | 100:6,10,12        | 114:8               | dates<br>37:9 59:10 | 108:3               |
| 89:3               | conversation       | corrected<br>36:20  | 81:12               | decision-maker      |
| 25:4<br>concerning | 30:4 70:2,25       | 4:17<br>counsel     | daughter<br>69:23   | 46:13,19            |
| 26:24              | 77:12 96:13,16     | 7:15 80:21          | 92:6,14 102:7       | decisions<br>108:19 |
| concluded          | 98:20 102:13       | 81:15 97:6          | 102:15 103:4,9      | defendants<br>1:14  |
| 110:24             | 102:14 103:11      | couple<br>6:16 24:2 | 103:25 104:4        | 2:14,18 3:9 5:8     |
| concludes<br>110:7 | 103:21,24          | 24:15 41:11         | 104:16 107:16       | 6:21 66:1           |
| 4:13<br>conference | 109:14             | 48:13 60:21         | day<br>33:10 37:12  | 12:5<br>definitely  |
| 4:18               | conversations      | 80:25               | 37:21,24 42:9       | 36:15 101:17        |
| confidential       | 38:19              | course<br>23:21     | 42:10,10 46:6       | delete<br>97:22,22  |
| 24:23 25:6         | cooperate<br>24:19 | court<br>1:1 2:1    | 52:11,11 60:6       | deleted<br>79:14    |
| confidentiality    | copied<br>72:4     | 4:10 5:12,15        | 77:15,20 78:11      | 97:12,17            |
| 16:4               | 15:16<br>copy      | 5:20 10:15          | 78:25 82:2          | 97:19<br>deleting   |
| 39:17<br>confirm   | 60:15 76:4         | 18:5 27:22          | 111:6               | 97:25               |
| 65:2 69:2          | 79:20,22 94:14     | 30:10 48:21         | 110:19<br>days      | department          |
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| label<br>48:24     | 58:23 64:17          | 7:5 8:19<br>long     | 22:5,7 23:3         | 69:9<br>married     |
| 52:15 55:25        | 17:3<br>likes        | 77:17                | 28:3 29:22          | 83:5<br>Martha      |
| 18:14<br>labeled   | limit<br>26:8,14     | longer<br>14:23,24   | 32:6,17 33:7        | matter<br>4:6 12:21 |
| 78:19<br>Laff      | limited<br>70:11     | 31:19 33:6           | 35:5 38:1 39:1      | 50:11 66:4          |
| land<br>1:12 2:12  | 99:3,6 100:3         | look<br>10:23 11:6   | 39:6 40:6,14        | 71:13 113:16        |
| 4:8 5:8 6:17       | Lindsay<br>80:19     | 22:11 23:24          | 40:18,23 43:3       | matters<br>85:25    |
| 50:3,7,14,19       | 81:5<br>Lindsay's    | 36:6,11,16           | 43:17 44:20,25      | 57:1<br>Matthew     |
| 51:3,16,19         | line<br>19:1,13      | 37:6,7,14 53:2       | 46:2,14,18          | Max<br>14:12,25     |
| 52:10 53:25        | 24:17 25:17          | 53:2 56:11           | 47:1,5,21           | 15:1 16:25          |
| 54:7,17 64:7       | 53:5 62:12           | 74:21 75:1           | 49:15,18 50:8       | 19:5 27:7 29:4      |
| 66:2 98:4,9,13     | 71:9 114:9,11        | 91:12 95:8,11        | 50:15,24 51:4       | 35:10 38:7          |
| 99:14,18           | 114:13,15,17         | 102:21               | 51:8,21 53:19       | 40:19 45:5,13       |
| 100:11 107:21      | 114:19,21            | 56:2 64:9<br>looked  | 54:13,18,22         | 46:5,10,12,16       |
| 108:13 114:3       | lines<br>74:16       | 72:19 95:17          | 57:13 58:13,21      | 46:20,22 47:11      |
| language<br>38:18  | list<br>12:13,15,18  | 106:24               | 59:9 61:14,24       | 50:17 53:23         |
| 43:11,19 99:23     | 20:6 37:14           | looking<br>9:15,23   | 62:5,9 64:5,23      | 56:19,21 61:1       |
| 102:9 103:12       | 73:5                 | 15:10 17:2,10        | 65:5,18,22,24       | 61:6,17 62:23       |
| 103:22             | 14:18 19:2<br>listed | 19:13 24:10,11       | 87:4 100:16         | 63:4 84:7           |
| 99:24<br>languages | 41:10 84:20          | 45:2 54:3            | 104:19 105:14       | 88:14,15 93:5       |
| 70:15<br>Lapin     | 100:14               | 59:20 60:1           | 105:24 106:4        | 93:5,6 94:16        |
| 77:10 80:18        | listing<br>34:23     | 63:11,18,24          | 106:12 108:5        | mean<br>9:5 11:12   |
| large<br>64:10     | 38:14,17 83:12       | 64:3,6,9 76:10       | 108:15,22           | 19:9 23:4 25:7      |
| law<br>65:24 67:20 | 34:11,15<br>listings | 77:23 82:12          | 112:5               | 33:6 47:13          |
| 70:7               | 34:17 35:2           | 83:12                | majority<br>33:2    | 50:9 62:2           |
|                    |                      |                      |                     |                     |

# Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-39 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 39

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| 63:25 67:7,24       | 43:23 44:4,13     | 54:6,16 57:24       | money<br>47:17      | 56:3                |
|---------------------|-------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------|
| 70:21 72:23         | 45:11 55:8        | 57:25 58:11,19      | 64:18 87:25         | negotiated<br>86:12 |
| 76:14 78:2          | 56:18,19 60:24    | 59:17 61:9,15       | 89:9,14 98:10       | negotiation         |
| 80:13,22 83:22      | 61:12 62:22       | 61:22 62:2,3,6      | Monteith<br>80:20   | 69:21               |
| 85:21 88:22         | 63:3 95:12        | 62:16,20,23,24      | 33:17<br>months     | 1:17 2:17<br>Neree  |
| 9:6<br>Meaning      | 96:4              | 63:6,11,15,17       | 4:22<br>morning     | 4:6 5:17,23 6:6     |
| means<br>12:2       | messages<br>27:18 | 64:20 67:10,16      | 5:5 36:10           | 6:11 7:21 8:10      |
| meant<br>8:3 23:6   | 28:15,16,24       | 68:3,6,6,18,24      | 65:15 105:25        | 10:9,16,21          |
| 40:13               | 29:6,10,18        | 69:4,8 70:10        | moving<br>47:15     | 12:22 15:7          |
| media<br>10:11      | 30:24 31:1,15     | 70:19 83:14         | 59:24 60:5          | 18:7 24:5           |
| 13:7                | 32:12 36:8,18     | 84:1,3,6,10,13      | 39:19<br>multiple   | 27:23,24 29:24      |
| meet<br>35:16 41:6  | 55:4 56:16        | 85:1,12,17          | 64:11 105:21        | 30:14 48:12,22      |
| 57:16,20 90:18      | 60:23 91:17       | 88:24 89:3          |                     | 49:2 52:6,7,14      |
| meeting<br>35:24    | 95:9 96:9,19      | 91:24 92:18         | N                   | 52:20 60:1,8        |
| 36:4,24 37:2        | 97:3,3,12,17      | 93:12,17,20         | N<br>3:1 112:1      | 65:14,23 88:25      |
| 41:16 45:17,21      | 97:19,22,23,23    | 95:24 98:15,19      | N-E-R-E-E<br>5:24   | 89:24 100:4,18      |
| 45:25 57:9,15       | 97:25 106:23      | 98:21 104:3         | nailed<br>26:9      | 101:4 102:5         |
| 57:25 58:3,6        | 112:13            | 105:8,15,18         | 4:15 5:21<br>name   | 104:13,20,24        |
| 58:15 59:6,17       | met<br>27:9 36:15 | 106:3,7,11,15       | 19:15 23:5          | 105:6,12 111:3      |
| 59:19,24 92:8       | 68:8 69:20        | 107:9,17,25         | 35:15 36:12         | 112:2 114:5,25      |
| 104:13 107:14       | 73:20 91:4        | 108:2,13,17,19      | 52:9 63:13          | 10:17<br>Neree's    |
| 107:15              | 92:5 105:20       | 108:23 112:19       | 65:24 68:4,7,8      | 112:10              |
| meetings<br>59:7    | middle<br>29:2,10 | Miles'<br>25:13     | 70:14,18 73:16      | Neuberg<br>80:19    |
| 59:11 60:12         | 29:20 43:23       | 35:4 46:21          | 74:8 83:2 98:8      | never<br>10:25 20:9 |
| 69:3 91:19          | Mile's<br>103:9   | 92:5,13 99:21       | 107:12 114:3,5      | 22:22,25 25:16      |
| Meister<br>3:10 5:6 | 107:12            | 99:24 102:6,12      | named<br>12:23      | 46:19 68:21         |
| 5:11 65:25          | 12:25,25<br>Miles | 103:24              | 50:18 51:2          | 73:20 83:20,22      |
| member<br>99:7,10   | 13:1,3,8,10,12    | Miles's<br>102:8    | 68:3,18 84:2        | 86:2 91:24          |
| 99:14,18            | 14:6 15:1         | 103:4 104:15        | 85:1,12             | 97:22               |
| 107:20              | 16:24 17:14,20    | Miller<br>1:21 2:20 | 13:8 68:9<br>names  | New<br>1:18,18      |
| members<br>99:8     | 19:10,10 20:5     | 5:13 113:3,20       | 68:11,14,19,20      | 2:18,19 3:5,11      |
| 99:18 107:20        | 21:1,5,8,19       | 12:11<br>million    | 69:14,19,19         | 5:18 71:20,21       |
| 107:21              | 22:14 23:4,7      | 39:25 40:16         | 78:2 83:20          | 75:4,8 77:14        |
| memory<br>37:20     | 26:18 27:3,9      | 42:12 46:5,7        | 20:3<br>narrow      | 77:20 78:5,10       |
| 75:2 78:8           | 32:5 34:5,10      | 64:17               | 14:5<br>nature      | 78:15 82:3          |
| mentioned<br>23:9   | 35:1,22 36:10     | mind<br>37:13       | near<br>63:5,19     | 102:16,17           |
| 68:11 70:7,15       | 36:15,19 37:4     | minutes<br>6:16     | 80:12               | 113:5               |
| 72:12 74:18         | 37:24 38:9,17     | 48:4 64:25          | nearby<br>61:23     | 80:21<br>Newhaven   |
| 75:3 81:2,2,7       | 38:18 39:2,4,9    | missing<br>96:19    | necessarily         | 81:8                |
| 104:2               | 40:8,24 41:5      | 97:2,3              | 12:18 64:8,9        | Ngok<br>1:13 2:13   |
| mentioning          | 41:19 42:3,22     | mistake<br>76:24    | necessary<br>24:20  | 4:9 5:7 66:2        |
| 109:15              | 43:2,7,15 44:7    | 77:13               | need<br>7:6,10      | nice<br>41:6 64:12  |
| 30:19<br>message    | 45:7,20 46:16     | 34:19,20<br>MLS     | 78:24 79:11         | 3:7<br>NICHOLAS     |
| 34:1,24 35:7        | 46:20 47:2,8      | 18:5<br>moment      | needed<br>36:13     | nicholasbasset      |
| 35:13 36:2          | 47:23 49:12       | 27:13 30:9          | 71:22 73:9          | 3:6                 |
| 39:8,23 41:2        | 50:14,21 51:11    | 104:12 110:3        | 24:21 25:4<br>needs | Nick<br>4:23 6:6    |
| 41:12,14 42:15      | 51:20 53:25       | Monday<br>47:14     | Neere<br>55:23      | nine<br>33:17       |

212-400-8845 - Depo@TransPerfect.com TransPerfect Legal Solutions

| nonbinding                    | 51:8,21 53:19       | 39:24 40:15          | opposed<br>72:6                 | 19:19 24:1,3        |
|-------------------------------|---------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------|---------------------|
| 49:19                         | 54:13,18,22         | 42:20,23 46:5        | options<br>95:24                | paraphrase          |
| nondisclosure                 | 57:13 58:13,21      | 46:11,24 47:7        | 21:5<br>order                   | 53:14               |
| 16:4                          | 59:9 61:14,24       | 47:9,13 48:16        | ordering<br>110:11              | Park<br>3:4,10      |
| noon<br>35:10,17              | 62:5,9 64:5,23      | 49:6,8,12,16         | orient<br>28:23                 | part<br>23:25 58:14 |
| 45:13 56:21                   | 66:25 70:4          | 49:17,19 51:15       | oriented<br>29:9                | 79:5,9,24           |
| Notary<br>5:18                | 72:21 76:13         | 52:12 54:24          | original<br>12:15               | participants        |
| 111:9 113:4                   | 78:1 84:23          | 56:3 81:20,23        | 22:24,24                        | 4:14                |
| 71:6<br>notes                 | 85:3,13,19          | 86:11 112:14         | 26:22<br>originally             | 85:6<br>participate |
| notice<br>23:5                | 86:8 87:4,16        | offered<br>46:6      | out-of-pocket                   | participated        |
| noticed<br>81:1               | 88:2 89:6,11        | office<br>63:5,11,18 | 25:18,22 26:2                   | 85:8                |
| notices<br>73:6               | 89:16,20 90:6       | 63:24,25 78:25       | outcome<br>113:16               | particular<br>26:7  |
| notifications                 | 90:13,24 93:2       | official<br>33:22    | Outlook<br>8:5                  | 94:12 99:1          |
| 71:16                         | 93:15,22 96:10      | 72:10 86:2           | 30:24<br>outside                | 113:14<br>parties   |
| notified<br>72:2              | 96:21 97:5,15       | Oh<br>72:2           | overlooking                     | partner<br>5:10     |
| notwithstandi                 | 97:20 98:1,5        | okay<br>6:15 8:10    | 64:11                           | 101:8,10 109:4      |
| 102:9                         | 98:22 101:14        | 8:14,23 10:7         | owned<br>19:6,8,10              | 109:8               |
| November<br>30:15             | 105:14 106:4        | 12:17 16:9,18        | 21:1,15 90:9                    | parts<br>58:9,17    |
| 31:6,13 34:2                  | 106:12,20           | 17:18 19:11          | 99:3,7                          | 65:20<br>pass       |
| 27:5<br>number                | 108:5,15,22         | 20:22 23:20          | 41:4<br>owners                  | 96:8<br>passage     |
| 35:15 36:13                   | objections<br>7:14  | 26:4,16 29:5         | owning<br>85:17                 | Patrick<br>80:19    |
| 42:13                         | 66:10 88:11         | 35:12 36:16          | owns<br>90:12 98:3              | Paul<br>3:4 4:23    |
| numbers<br>55:7               | obligated<br>25:18  | 37:2 38:18           | 98:12                           | 5:3 67:17,19        |
| NY<br>3:5,11                  | obligations         | 40:20 41:16          |                                 | 67:20 70:7,9        |
|                               | 23:25 24:18         | 42:1,24 43:6         | P                               | 71:12,25 73:13      |
| O                             | observe<br>58:9     | 46:23 50:2           | P<br>3:1,1                      | 73:22 76:9,12       |
| 6:24 101:5<br>oath            | 103:3               | 56:7 59:5            | 61:7,19<br>p.m                  | 76:19 77:6,24       |
| object<br>26:19               | observed<br>58:19   | 60:20 63:2           | 95:12 100:24                    | 78:14,22 80:1       |
| 29:22 30:1                    | obtain<br>28:5      | 65:5 66:11,14        | 110:9                           | 81:10 82:4,8        |
| 74:6 78:16                    | 10:22<br>obtained   | 66:21,23 67:21       | page<br>11:4 18:15              | 82:18,21 101:8      |
| 79:4 89:7                     | 6:19<br>obvious     | 71:24 75:3           | 22:12,21 28:25                  | 109:5,8             |
| 99:25 101:21                  | 11:14               | 91:16 94:10          | 29:5 40:25                      | pause<br>30:8       |
| 104:1                         | obviously<br>11:3   | 95:16 98:17          | 43:24 49:1                      | pay<br>25:18        |
| objection<br>7:16             | 60:15 84:7          | 100:19 105:2         | 52:17 53:4                      | payment<br>85:23    |
| 13:14,20,21,22                | occasion<br>91:18   | 109:11 110:6         | 55:7,25 56:12                   | 95:3                |
| 14:7 17:16,21                 | occasions           | 91:1,7<br>old        | 63:3 95:13                      | 20:11<br>Pecksland  |
| 21:12 22:5,7                  | 105:21              | once<br>10:10        | 112:3,9 114:9                   | 35:11,17,21         |
| 23:3 28:3 30:9                | occur<br>45:17      | 13:23 16:12          | 114:11,13,15                    | 37:7,13,16          |
| 32:6,17 33:7                  | occurred<br>6:23    | 69:20 71:18,19       | 114:17,19,21                    | pending<br>7:11     |
| 35:5 38:1 39:1                | 35:24 36:4          | 71:19 74:18          | pages<br>29:15                  | people<br>81:1      |
| 39:6 40:6,14<br>40:18,23 43:3 | 37:3 45:25          | 86:10                | 60:22 80:25<br>paid<br>25:24,25 | 107:5 108:7         |
|                               | 47:20 57:10         | one-year<br>44:16    |                                 | Pepe<br>80:20       |
| 43:17 44:20,25<br>46:2,14,18  | 58:11 59:7          | ones<br>29:9 32:24   | 87:8,10 92:18<br>92:25 93:4,8   | perfect<br>34:4     |
| 47:1,5,21                     | October<br>15:2     | 72:3,3,9             | 93:25 94:16,20                  | performed           |
| 49:15,18 50:8                 | 16:7,20             | open<br>10:10 26:6   | pains<br>97:7                   | 92:22               |
|                               | 10:4 15:21<br>offer | 32:20 83:11          |                                 | 14:9,23<br>period   |
| 50:15,24 51:4                 | 15:23 38:25         | 34:21<br>openable    | paragraph                       | 45:4                |

| person<br>12:23     | pleasure<br>6:12    | 72:17 86:17,23      | 20:13 21:5,9        | purchases<br>108:9   |
|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------|----------------------|
| 26:23 27:9          | 41:6                | 87:1,8,20           | 21:17 22:3          | purchasing           |
| 46:8 68:23          | 3:10<br>PLLC        | 20:14<br>Private    | 35:25 37:7,13       | 61:21 108:24         |
| 69:3,7 70:19        | 65:10 101:1<br>PM   | 98:20<br>privy      | 37:20 38:13,25      | 57:14<br>purpose     |
| 73:17,20,22         | 101:1 110:24        | probably<br>12:15   | 40:5 41:14,17       | 57:16 59:15          |
| 78:14,19,22         | point<br>13:11      | 26:9 36:5           | 42:9,17,22          | 63:23                |
| 83:23 84:2          | 20:15 38:10         | 60:13 80:12         | 43:8 45:16          | purposes<br>13:25    |
| 85:16,22,22         | 40:19 41:15         | 82:14 96:12,14      | 46:3 49:13,17       | pursuant<br>75:9     |
| 90:19,22            | 67:18 69:17,20      | 110:21              | 50:12,22 51:13      | 74:1<br>push         |
| 105:13,16           | 70:14 71:16         | proceed<br>5:16     | 51:20 56:4          | put<br>10:8 27:14    |
| 106:9,15,16         | 79:12,17,20         | 6:18 16:15          | 59:8,12,13,14       | 30:10 48:14          |
| person's<br>68:4    | 82:24               | 21:24               | 59:18 60:12         | 49:21 50:18          |
| personal<br>24:22   | possibility<br>97:2 | proceeding<br>1:13  | 61:8 64:10          | 51:24 55:11,14       |
| 25:5 60:2,17        | 24:8<br>possible    | 5:2,9 66:1 67:4     | 67:4,7 69:21        | 105:4                |
| 107:8<br>persons    | 37:11 47:25         | 74:10 96:4          | 70:10 85:18         |                      |
| perspective<br>9:21 | 58:25 78:17         | proceeds<br>87:21   | 86:6 88:1           | Q                    |
| 18:20               | 97:11               | 90:4,10             | 91:20 92:14         | qualifications       |
| phone<br>27:5       | postponed<br>73:25  | process<br>35:4     | 102:6 104:10        | 24:22 25:5           |
| 28:12,13,18         | potential<br>32:19  | 44:22               | 106:3,18 107:2      | question<br>7:1,11   |
| 35:15 36:13         | 101:9,13            | 28:7<br>produced    | 108:4,9,20,25       | 7:13,18 14:1,3       |
| 71:6 97:13,18       | potentially         | professional        | property's<br>67:11 | 14:4 21:6 25:1       |
| photo<br>68:23      | 61:22               | 13:12               | proposals<br>41:9   | 30:6,8 31:24         |
| pick<br>39:10,14    | practice<br>11:10   | profile<br>10:22    | proposing<br>41:7   | 38:15 44:12          |
| picture<br>11:4     | preferences<br>9:20 | promise<br>23:15    | protection<br>20:20 | 51:9 66:7            |
| 105:5,8,13          | 73:23<br>presence   | promoted            | 9:17<br>provide     | 87:19 92:17          |
| 112:19              | present<br>3:18     | 101:17              | 60:14               | 97:9 102:7           |
| pin<br>55:11        | 37:4 38:15          | proof<br>86:1       | provided<br>16:16   | questioning          |
| place<br>4:12 15:4  | 41:19 43:16         | properly<br>109:18  | 79:25 82:4          | 4:21 89:1            |
| 16:3 41:17          | 45:20 58:7,14       | properties<br>11:25 | 87:25               | questions<br>6:20    |
| 47:14 70:2          | 58:17 59:2          | 11:25 14:8,18       | 24:20<br>providing  | 6:22,25 7:15         |
| 71:1,5 84:11        | 107:16              | 14:20 17:2,11       | 23:9<br>provision   | 24:2,15 30:2         |
| 103:12,22           | presents<br>20:17   | 20:4,7,7,10,16      | Public<br>5:18      | 38:10,12 41:11       |
| plaintiff<br>1:10   | presumably          | 21:24 23:12         | 111:9 113:4         | 43:8 52:8 65:1       |
| 2:10 5:1 6:8        | 73:8                | 27:8,10 32:19       | purchase<br>9:15    | 65:16,18,19          |
| 67:22               | previous<br>59:13   | 34:4,20 35:22       | 15:21,24 21:16      | 66:3,5,11            |
| 4:18 5:20<br>please | 81:13               | 36:11,21 37:8       | 48:16 49:6,8        | 80:23 92:3           |
| 7:2 10:15           | previously<br>82:4  | 37:14 39:10,19      | 49:20 51:15,20      | 102:4 104:21         |
| 13:18 14:5          | price<br>12:19      | 40:9 41:23          | 53:8 57:6           | 104:24 109:2         |
| 17:24 18:6          | 42:11 45:8          | 44:7 61:23          | 64:21 74:9          | 110:5<br>24:15       |
| 27:22,23 29:25      | 46:3,6              | 64:14,21 67:12      | 81:21 86:6,18       | quick<br>42:20 47:13 |
| 30:7 41:3 44:8      | 11:15<br>priced     | 99:2 106:25         | 87:21,25 88:9       | 48:3                 |
| 48:15,21 51:24      | 12:13,16<br>prices  | 109:3               | 88:16 90:4,10       | 14:3<br>quickly      |
| 51:25 52:5          | primarily<br>8:15   | property<br>9:19    | 98:8,10,16,20       | 42:18 43:5           |
| 55:14 58:18         | print<br>79:23      | 9:22 10:5 11:7      | 99:16 100:6         | 47:20,24             |
| 66:7 76:17          | printed<br>28:17    | 12:7,8,10 15:3      | 104:17 106:18       | quote<br>62:13       |
| 95:25 104:12        | 78:3                | 15:23 16:2          | 108:20 112:14       |                      |
| 105:4 110:4         | 49:11<br>prior      | 17:19 18:20         | 83:14<br>purchased  |                      |

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| R                    | recognize<br>49:2   | relationship        | 4:16 5:14 9:14      | 89:4,19 91:25       |
|----------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------|
| R<br>3:1 80:19       | 52:19 96:8          | 13:12,15,19         | 21:19 46:9          | 94:13 96:4          |
| 113:1 114:2,2        | 105:12              | 14:6 16:19          | 66:9 84:12          | 99:4,11 103:16      |
| Raft<br>78:19        | recollect<br>37:9   | 17:12 21:10         | request<br>79:6,10  | 103:25 104:3        |
| 32:9<br>range        | recollection        | 50:13 109:3,24      | 80:17<br>requested  | 106:19 108:4        |
| reached<br>21:4      | 16:21 28:7          | release<br>54:1     | 81:17               | 112:11              |
| reaches<br>63:4      | 39:18 40:10         | released<br>53:17   | required<br>73:23   | right-hand          |
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| 11<br>1:6,9 2:6,9   | 44:18 49:24         | 4                   |
| 3:3 4:7,24 6:7      | 53:5,10,22          | 39:25 40:16<br>4    |
| 8:21,22 12:24       | 55:8,9 56:8,12      | 48:14,18,22         |
| 13:4 43:24          | 56:17 57:10         | 56:3 112:14         |
| 44:18 45:18         | 59:6,18 60:23       | 4.6<br>46:7         |
| 49:24 66:9          | 63:3 95:20          | 61:2,7 62:11<br>429 |
| 80:18,22 95:20      | 2022<br>30:21 31:9  | 112:14<br>48        |
| 11:11<br>48:7,9     | 31:14               |                     |
| 11:23<br>48:9,11    | 2023<br>1:19 2:20   | 5                   |
| 65:8,10<br>11:50    | 4:3 71:3 76:1       | 5<br>30:15 31:6,13  |
| 65:12               | 81:8 114:4          | 34:2 46:5 52:2      |
| 11:54               |                     | 52:6,15 55:14       |
| 12<br>8:22 35:8,14  | 21<br>56:12 63:3    | 112:16              |
| 36:3,5,9 42:12      | 22<br>16:7 44:17    | 112:16<br>52        |
| 76:9                | 95:12,15            | 55<br>112:17        |
| 65:10<br>12:04      | 1:7 2:7<br>22-50073 | 586<br>20:12 37:16  |
| 3:10 20:11<br>125   | 30:21 31:9,14<br>23 | 5th<br>60:23        |
| 35:11,16,21         | 71:5 91:13          |                     |
| 37:6,15             | 23-05005<br>1:13    | 6                   |
| 13<br>18:24         | 24<br>1:19 2:19 4:3 | 6<br>51:24 55:18,23 |
| 13th<br>36:24 80:20 | 81:8 114:4          | 112:4,17            |
| 36:18,22<br>14      | 112:13<br>27        |                     |
| 39:22 56:8          |                     | 112:5<br>65         |
| 64:17               | 3                   | 7                   |
| 15<br>55:8,9 56:17  | 3<br>27:19,23 28:1  | 7<br>105:7,9 112:19 |
| 57:10 59:6          | 34:1 55:3           |                     |
| 59:11,22,24<br>17th | 56:14,15,15         | 7.495<br>12:11      |
| 18<br>112:11        | 60:22 95:8,10       | 7808<br>1:22        |
| 18th<br>59:25       | 112:13 114:8        | 7th<br>3:10         |
| 19<br>41:1 53:22    | 3:38<br>95:12       |                     |
| 196<br>80:20        | 323<br>12:7         |                     |
|                     | 371<br>45:16        |                     |
| 2                   | 373<br>20:12 37:16  |                     |
| 17:24 18:7,11<br>2  | 40:4 45:7,14        |                     |
| 84:17 112:11        | 45:18,25 46:25      |                     |
|                     |                     |                     |