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# zci*** 发言 (2025-07-28)

这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。

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## 发言正文

> Yes, it is possible to convict someone for fraud even without specific, identified victims who have suffered a demonstrable loss. While the prosecution needs to prove intent to defraud, the success of the scheme or actual financial harm to a victim is not always a prerequisite for a conviction.   这是我查的ai，不保对不在我知识范围（但我知道有些罪刑确实甚至不需要具体受害人存在比如诱奸孩童）各位可以查下自己的ai确定下对不对。