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# kir*** 发言 (2026-01-20)

这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。

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时间：2026-01-20T19:17:56.273Z
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被回复发言摘要：
> 这是733的relief：
> 
> Declare void and null all forfeiture orders and proceedings premised upon
>        fraudulent creditor claims, procedurally defective bankruptcy determinations, or
>        fraud upon the court, pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 60(d)(3). No forfeiture
>        proceedings should continue unless and until the underlying conviction is lawfully
>        sustained. In the alternative, if the Court determines that forfeiture may proceed
>        despite these allegations, I respectfully request the appointment of an independent
>        Receiver or Special Master to ensure neutrality and protect victims’ rights. This
>        alternative request is not a concession that forfeiture may lawfully proceed under
>        fraud but serves as a protective measure for victims if the Court declines to vacate
>        the forfeiture orders.

## 发言正文

> 这是二巡的relief：
> 
> Instruct the District Court to rule on the Rule 60 relief request in
>       Dkt. 733, which seeks to vacate the forfeiture order obtained under
>       conditions of fraud and misconduct.