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# ton*** 发言 (2026-08-08)

围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。

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## 发言正文

> 四段决定性原文
> ECF 186（他的第一份） — §3771 是转述政府，不是自己主张
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> "In the GOVERNMENT'S MOTION PURSUANT TO TITLE 18, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 3771 filed in March 2023, the United States characterizes the petitioners as 'victims' of the Defendants."
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> ECF 247（托雷斯裁定，2024-03-07） — 通道在这里就被钉死了
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> 起诉后的 Rule 41(g) "clearly barred by [21 U.S.C.] § 853(k)"；唯一例外是 §853(n)，而该附带程序 "may commence only after the sentence is entered by an order of forfeiture and notice is given to the public."
> 引 De Almeida, 459 F.3d at 381（§853(n) 是 "the only avenue"）、Watts、DSI Assocs., 496 F.3d at 183
> 
> ECF 478（转折点） — 请求依据清单 + 第 I 节标题
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> "…as authorized by 18 U.S.C. § 983(a)(1)(A)(i) … 21 U.S.C. §§ 853(i) and (n), 18 U.S.C. § 3771, Rule 41(g)…"
> 第 I 节 "STATUS AS VICTIM" ｜ 第 III 节 "CONFLICT BETWEEN § 983 AND CVRA"
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> ECF 612（最被忽略的一句） — 他自己写的
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> 1,433 份合并宣誓书 "designed to cover the ancillary petition and the remission process. The challenge is that no client has yet communicated to undersigned counsel that the Defendants victimized them."
> 标题：Motion for … Return of Himalaya Exchange Depositors Victimized by the U.S. Government