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# Guo Wengui / Miles Guo — bankruptcy case · EXHIBIT · ECF #1604-23



Exhibit 23

DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019

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**1 SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK 2 COUNTY OF NEW YORK -----------------------------------------X 3 PACIFIC ALLIANCE ASIA OPPORTUNITY FUND L.P., 4 Plaintiff, 5 - against - 6 KWOK HO WAN, a/k/a KWOK HO, a/k/a GWO 7 WEN GUI, a/k/a GUO WENGUI, a/k/a GUO WEN-GUI, a/k/a WAN GUE HAOYUN, a/k/a 8 MILES KWOK, a/k/a HAOYUN GUO, 9 Defendant. 10 Index No.: 652077/2017 -----------------------------------------X 11 12 605 Third Avenue New York, New York 13 December 11, 2019 14 2:56 p.m. 15 16 VIDEOTAPED EXAMINATION BEFORE TRIAL 17 of DANIEL PODHASKIE, before Melissa Gilmore, a 18 Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public of the 19 State of New York. 20 21 22 23 ELLEN GRAUER COURT REPORTING CO., LLC 126 East 56th Street, Fifth Floor 24 New York, New York 10022 212-750-6434 25 REF: 293035B**

1　A P P E A R A N C E S:

3　O'MELVENY & MYERS LLP
4　Attorneys for Plaintiff
5　7 Times Square
6　New York, New York 10036
7　BY:
EDWARD MOSS, ESQ.
8　STUART SARNOFF, ESQ.
9　ELI A. GROSSMAN, ESQ.
10　PHONE 212-728-5651
11　E-MAIL emoss@omm.com
12　ssarnoff@omm.com
13　egrossman@omm.com

16　HODGSON RUSS LLP
17　Attorneys for Defendant
18　605 Third Avenue, Suite 2300
19　New York, New York 10158
20　BY:
JILLIAN MARIE SEARLES, ESQ.
21　PHONE 646-218-7591
22　E-MAIL jsearles@hodgsonruss.com

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 1 A P P E A R A N C E S: (Cont'd)
3 LAWALL & MITCHELL, LLC
 4 Attorneys for the Genever Entities
 5 55 Madison Avenue
 6 Morristown, New Jersey 07960
 7 BY: AARON A. MITCHELL, ESQ.
 8 PHONE 914-760-8963
 9 E-MAIL aaron@lmesq.com

12 ALSO PRESENT:
13 YVETTE WANG, Genever
14 DAN MACOM, Videographer

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1　------------------- I N D E X -------------------

2　WITNESS　EXAMINATION BY　PAGE
3　DANIEL PODHASKIE　MR. MOSS　8
4　MR. MITCHELL　119

6　DIRECTIONS:　PAGE 91, 93

9　---------------- E X H I B I T S ----------------
10　PODHASKIE　DESCRIPTION　FOR I.D.
11　Exhibit 1　Corporate representative　9
12　notice for the deposition
13　of Genever New York
14　Exhibit 2　Notice for the deposition　9
15　of Genever BVI
16　Exhibit 3　Collection of corporate　20
17　documents, Bates Stamped
18　KWOK143 through 194
19　Exhibit 4　Certificate of　55
20　Registration of Charge
21　Exhibit 5　Notice of Satisfaction or　56
22　Release of Registered
23　Charge Pursuant to
24　Section 165
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1　------------ E X H I B I T S (Cont'd) -----------

2　PODHASKIE　DESCRIPTION
FOR I.D.
3　Exhibit 6　Defendant's Memorandum of

4　Law in Opposition to
5　Plaintiff's Motion for an
6　Order of Pre-Judgment
7　Attachment
8　Exhibit 7　Certificate of

9　Registration of Charge
10　Exhibit 8　Notice of Satisfaction or

11　Release of Registered
12　Charge
13　Exhibit 9　Declaration of Trust and

14　Agreement
15　Exhibit 10　Letter from Stevenson

16　Wong dated March 4, 2015

19　(EXHIBITS TO BE PRODUCED)

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1　STIPULATIONS

3　IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND
4　AGREED by and between the attorneys for the
5　respective parties herein that the sealing,
6　and filing be, and the same are hereby
7　waived.
8　IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND
9　AGREED that all objections, except as to the
10　form of the question, shall be reserved to
11　the time of the trial.
12　IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND
13　AGREED that the within deposition may be
14　sworn to and signed before any officer
15　authorized to administer an oath, with the
16　same force and effect as if signed to before
17　the court.

19　- oOo -

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1　P R O C E E D I N G S

3　THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
This is the
4　videotaped deposition of Mr. Daniel T.
5　Podhaskie, taken by the plaintiff in the
6　matter of Pacific Alliance Asia
7　Opportunity Fund L.P. versus Wan, et al.,
8　in the Supreme Court of the State of New
9　York in the County of New York.
The Index
10　Number is 652077/2017.
11　This deposition is being held at the
12　offices of Hodgson Russ, and today's date
13　is December 11, 2019.
14　My name is Dan Macom.
I'm from
15　Ellen Grauer, a U.S. Legal Support
16　Company.
17　Our court reporter today is
18　Ms. Melissa Gilmore, also from Ellen
19　Grauer, a U.S. Legal Support Company.
20　All counsel here today, their
21　appearances will appear on the written
22　record.
23　I will ask at this time that our
24　court reporter please swear in the
25　witness.
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**1 D A N I E L P O D H A S K I E, called as 2 a witness, having been sworn by a Notary 3 Public, was examined and testified as 4 follows: 5 6 EXAMINATION BY 7 MR. MOSS: 8 Q. Mr. Podhaskie, you are here as a 9 corporate representative for two entities; is 10 that correct? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And one of those entities is Genever 13 Holdings, LLC, right? 14 A. Correct. 15 Q. And I'm going to refer to that 16 entity today as Genever New York. Is that 17 okay? 18 A. That's fine. 19 Q. Will you understand what I mean when 20 I say Genever New York that I'm referring to 21 Genever Holdings, LLC? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. And the other entity you are here on 24 behalf of is Genever Holdings Corporation BVI; 25 is that correct?**
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2　A.
Yes.
3　Q.
And I'm going to refer to that
4　entity as Genever BVI.
Is that okay?
5　A.
That's fine.
6　Q.
And you'll understand that when I'm
7　talking about Genever BVI, I mean Genever
8　Holdings Corporation?
9　A.
I do.
10　Q.
Thank you.
11　I assume there is no reason why you
12　can't give truthful and accurate testimony here
13　today?
14　A.
No.
15　(Podhaskie Exhibit 1, Corporate
16　representative notice for the deposition
17　of Genever New York, marked for
18　identification.)
19　(Podhaskie Exhibit 2, Notice for the
20　deposition of Genever BVI, marked for
21　identification.)
22　THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
We are on the
23　record.
The time is 2:59 p.m.
24　Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, I have handed you
25　what we have marked as Podhaskie 1 and

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2　Podhaskie 2.
Number 1 is the corporate
3　representative notice for the deposition of
4　Genever New York, and Exhibit 2 is the notice
5　for the deposition of Genever BVI.
Is that --
6　is that correct?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
8　the question.
9　A.
(Document review.)
Exhibit 1 is a
10　deposition notice to Genever New York and
11　Exhibit 2 is a deposition notice to Genever
12　BVI, as you previously defined them.
13　Q.
Great.
Thank you.
14　Now, if you can take a look, please,
15　we can start with Exhibit 1.
Please take a
16　look at the last page of that exhibit.
17　And do you see that there are five
18　deposition topics?
19　A.
Yes.
20　Q.
Are you prepared to testify on those
21　five topics today?
22　A.
Yes.
23　Q.
And if you can please take a look at
24　Exhibit 2, at the last page of that exhibit, do
25　you see that there are five deposition topics

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2　on that page?
3　A.
Yes.
4　Q.
Are you prepared to testify on those
5　five deposition topics today?
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
What did you do to prepare to
8　testify on behalf of Genever New York and
9　Genever BVI on these topics that we just
10　covered?
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
12　the question.
13　You can answer.
14　A.
I reviewed each one of these
15　deposition notices and the topics that were
16　designated.
I reviewed the corporate records
17　for Genever New York and for Genever BVI.
I
18　spoke with Miles Kwok.
I spoke with Guo Qiang
19　and I spoke with Yvette Wang.
20　MR. MITCHELL:
Maybe, just to go on
21　the record here, just because
22　Mr. Podhaskie is an attorney, I'm
23　certainly going to allow you to ask
24　questions regarding the 30(b)(6)
25　discussions he had with those individuals,

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**1 PODHASKIE 2 but anything outside of that, I'm going to 3 assert privilege. 4 MR. MOSS: Sure. Understood. 5 That's helpful. 6 BY MR. MOSS: 7 Q. So let's start with Mr. Kwok. What 8 did you discuss with Mr. Kwok in connection 9 with preparing for your testimony here today as 10 a corporate representative? 11 A. I asked him if he would have any 12 knowledge about the topics that are listed on 13 the notice of deposition. 14 Q. And what did he say? 15 A. He indicated he would not know. 16 Q. Anything else about your 17 conversation with Mr. Kwok as it relates to 18 your preparation for your corporate 19 representative topics today? 20 A. Did I discuss anything else with him 21 about this, the preparation? Other than that, 22 no. 23 Q. Who is Guo Qiang? 24 A. He is Mr. Kwok's son. 25 Q. And did you speak with Mr. Qiang by**
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2　phone, in person?
How did you communicate?
3　MR. MITCHELL:
Just for
4　clarification, his first name is Qiang.
5　MR. MOSS:
Sorry.
6　Q.
Mr. Guo.
Let me try it again.
7　When you speak with Mr. Kwok's son,
8　how did you communicate with him?
9　A.
By telephone.
10　Q.
Who called who?
11　A.
I was with Yvette Wang at the time
12　and she called Guo Qiang.
13　Q.
And where was Guo Qiang located when
14　you spoke with him?
15　A.
I believe he was in England.
16　Q.
And what did the two of you discuss?
17　A.
We discussed the deposition topics
18　that were noticed and the corporate formalities
19　of both Genever New York and Genever BVI.
20　Q.
Do you remember anything he told
21　you?
22　A.
Yes.
23　Q.
Can you just tell me your best
24　recollection about what Guo Qiang told you
25　during that conversation to prepare for your
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2　corporate representative testimony?
3　A.
How much time do I have?
4　Q.
As much as you need.
5　A.
Well, we went through each of the
6　topics one by one.
We discussed the formation
7　and business purpose of both Genever BVI and
8　Genever New York.
We discussed the corporate
9　and ownership structure of both Genever BVI and
10　Genever New York.
We discussed the personnel
11　management and organization structure of both
12　Genever BVI and Genever New York.
We discussed
13　Genever BVI's relationship to Mr. Kwok and
14　Genever New York.
And we discussed the assets
15　that are currently held by both Genever BVI and
16　Genever New York.
17　Q.
Anything else you remember?
18　A.
I think we briefly discussed the
19　purchase of the residence at The
20　Sherry-Netherland Hotel in New York.
21　Q.
And do you recall anything about
22　that discussion?
23　A.
Yes.
24　Q.
Can you tell me what you remember?
25　A.
Anything specific that you're

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2　looking for?
3　Q.
You said it was a brief discussion.
4　Just anything you remember about that brief
5　discussion.
6　A.
He told me that they were looking to
7　buy a residence at -- you know, somewhere in
8　New York, and that he had attended the meetings
9　with The Sherry-Netherland with his father, you
10　know, he attended a lot of the meetings, spoke
11　with the president of the -- or the vice
12　president, I'm not sure of the title, of The
13　Sherry-Netherland.
14　He had signed some application forms
15　to purchase the residence on behalf of Genever
16　New York and I think that's about it.
17　Q.
When you say they were looking to
18　buy residences, who is the "they" you're
19　referring to?
20　A.
The Guo family.
21　Q.
And is that Mr. Kwok and his son or
22　is that something broader than that?
23　A.
In particular, it was Guo Qiang,
24　Mr. Kwok's son.
25　Q.
When was the conversation you had

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2　with Guo Qiang?
3　A.
I believe this past Monday,
4　December 9.
5　Q.
You said you also spoke with
6　Ms. Yvette Wang to prepare for your testimony;
7　is that correct?
8　A.
She was present when I had the
9　conversation with Guo Qiang.
10　Q.
Did you have any conversations with
11　her other than her being present for the
12　conversation with Guo Qiang?
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
In connection with preparation for
15　this deposition?
16　A.
Yes.
17　Q.
And can you tell me what the two of
18　you discussed, please?
19　A.
I think we discussed the address for
20　Genever and who maintains -- whether it has an
21　office here in New York, Genever New York, that
22　is, and the same for Genever BVI.
23　Q.
Anything else?
24　A.
No.
I think that's it.
25　Q.
What is Ms. Wang's role with Genever

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2　New York?
3　A.　I don't know.
4　Q.　What is Ms. Wang's role with Genever
5　BVI?
6　A.　I don't know.
7　Q.　Well, you're prepared to testify
8　about the personnel of Genever New York, right,
9　that's topic 3, in Exhibit 1; is that right?
10　A.　Yes.
11　Q.　Are you prepared to testify on that?
12　A.　I am.
13　Q.　You didn't ask Ms. Wang what her
14　role was with Genever New York?
15　A.　I think you're assuming she has a
16　role with Genever New York.
17　Q.　Did you ask her whether she has a
18　role with Genever New York?
19　A.　Yes.
20　Q.　And what did she tell you?
21　A.　She has no official role with
22　Genever New York.
23　Q.　Does she have an unofficial role
24　with Genever New York?
25　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of

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2　the question.
3　You can answer.
4　A.
What do you mean by "unofficial
5　role"?
6　Q.
Well, you testified that you didn't
7　know whether she had a role with Genever New
8　York.
Is that -- is that your testimony?
9　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
10　the question.
11　A.
If that's what the record reflects.
12　Q.
I asked you, what is Ms. Wang's role
13　with Genever New York, and you answered, I
14　don't know.
15　Do you recall that testimony?
16　A.
Yes.
17　Q.
Is that accurate?
18　A.
Yes.
19　Q.
Okay.
Do you know whether she has
20　any role, official or unofficial, with Genever
21　New York?
And by "her," I'm referring to
22　Yvette Wang.
23　A.
I don't know.
24　Q.
Did you ask her whether she had a
25　role with Genever New York?

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2　A.
What do you mean by "role"?
Can you
3　be more specific?
4　Q.
I asked you what Ms. Wang told you
5　and you answered she has no official role with
6　Genever New York.
7　What did you mean by the word
8　"role"?
9　A.
She is not employed by Genever New
10　York.
11　Q.
Does she have any duties,
12　responsibility in connection with, affiliation
13　with Genever New York?
14　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
15　the question.
16　A.
I don't know.
17　Q.
You didn't ask her?
18　A.
No.
19　Q.
Let's -- let's focus on Genever BVI.
20　Mr. Podhaskie, I'm going to hand you
21　a collection of corporate documents that were
22　produced to us in this case by -- by one of the
23　Genever entities, I'm not sure which one, but
24　they have Kwok Bates stamps on them, and I'm
25　going to look at -- I'm going to direct your

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2　attention to various documents within here.
If
3　there are other documents you feel you need to
4　look at to answer questions or you want to flip
5　through this, you're more than welcome to.
6　(Podhaskie Exhibit 3, Collection of
7　corporate documents, Bates Stamped KWOK143
8　through 194, marked for identification.)
9　MR. MITCHELL:
Are you marking this
10　as Podhaskie 3?
11　MR. MOSS:
I'm marking this together
12　as 3, yes.
13　Q.
So Mr. Podhaskie, Exhibit 3, as I
14　mentioned, is a compilation of documents.
They
15　are in sequential Bates order, and they are
16　KWOK143 through KWOK194.
And they are various
17　corporate documents with respect to the two
18　Genever entities.
19　So I would like to direct your
20　attention to page -- the Bates page 176.
This
21　is entitled "Authorization to Date Director's
22　Resolution," and it's Bates stamped KWOK176.
23　Can you identify this document?
24　A.
(Document review.)
It is entitled
25　"Authorization to Date Director's Resolution,"

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2　and it appears to be dated effective the 12th
3　day of February, 2015.
4　Q.
And it relates to the Genever BVI
5　entity?
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
And is this a true and correct copy
8　of this Authorization to Date Director's
9　Resolution, as far as you can tell?
10　A.
Based on the documents that I
11　reviewed in preparation for today, it would
12　appear to be true and accurate.
13　Q.
And is that -- that signature at the
14　bottom, is that Mr. Kwok's signature?
15　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
16　the question.
17　A.
I don't know.
18　Q.
Kwok Ho Wan, do you see underneath
19　the signature line, it has the words
20　typewritten "Kwok Ho Wan"?
21　A.
Yes.
22　Q.
Is that Miles Kwok?
23　A.
Yes.
24　Q.
Do you have any reason to believe
25　that's not his signature?
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2　A.
No.
3　Q.　And it says here, "The undersigned
4　is forming a corporation under the laws of the
5　British Virgin Islands, such corporation to be
6　known as Genever Holdings Corporation, the
7　company."
8　Did I read that correctly?
9　A.　You're reading from the beginning of
10　the first paragraph?
11　Q.　Yes, the first sentence.
12　A.　(Document review.)
Yes.
13　Q.　And the undersigned is Mr. Kwok; is
14　that right?
15　A.
Correct.　Correct.
16　Q.　Mr. Kwok formed Genever Holdings
17　Corporation, correct?
18　A.　That's what this document reflects.
19　Q.　And you don't have any reason to
20　believe this document that was produced from
21　Mr. Kwok's or Genever's files is inaccurate, do
22　you?
23　A.
No.
24　Q.　Take a look, please, Mr. Podhaskie,
25　at page KWOK145.

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2　Can you identify this document which
3　is -- the title of it is "Territory of the
4　British Virgin Island Acts, BVI Companies Act
5　2004, Certificate of Incorporation, Section 7
6　for Genever Holdings Corporation."
7　Can you identify this?
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
9　the question.
10　A.
Yes.
This appears to be a copy of
11　the certificate of incorporation for Genever
12　BVI.
13　Q.
Do you have any reason to believe
14　that this document is not authentic and
15　accurate?
16　A.
Based on the documents that I
17　reviewed in preparation for today, this appears
18　to be an accurate copy.
19　Q.
And is it correct that Genever BVI
20　was incorporated in the BVI on February 13,
21　2015?
22　A.
Yes, I believe that's correct.
23　Q.
Who besides Mr. Kwok was involved in
24　forming Genever BVI?
25　A.
Guo Qiang.

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2　Q.
That's Mr. Kwok's son?
3　A.
Correct.
4　Q.
Anybody else?
5　A.
Not that I'm aware of.
6　Q.
Why was Genever BVI formed?
7　A.
Initially, it was formed to own a
8　US-based company that was going to purchase
9　real estate.
10　Q.
And was the US-based company Genever
11　New York?
12　A.
Yes.
13　Q.
And was the real estate the
14　apartment at The Sherry-Netherland Hotel?
15　A.
That ultimately ended up being the
16　real estate that Genever purchased.
17　Q.
So is it your testimony that, at the
18　time, there was the thought to buy some real
19　estate in the United States, but they just
20　didn't know exactly what that real estate was
21　going to be?
22　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
23　the question.
24　You can answer.
25　A.
They wanted to invest in real estate

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2　in the United States, and they didn't know
3　which asset they were going to purchase or
4　where they were going to purchase.
5　Q.
Was the plan at the time of
6　formation to buy one -- you said which asset
7　they were going to purchase.
8　Was the plan at the time of
9　formation to purchase one asset or several
10　assets?
11　A.
I don't know what the plan was.
I
12　know they had looked at several different
13　properties and ultimately chose The
14　Sherry-Netherland.
15　Q.
Has the purpose of Genever BVI
16　changed since the purpose at its formation?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question.
19　You can answer.
20　A.
No.
21　Q.
No purposes have been added or
22　subtracted?
23　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
24　the question.
25　A.
It's not reflected from the

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2　documents and the conversations I had in
3　preparation for today.
4　Q.
What business has Genever BVI
5　conducted?
6　A.
It owns Genever New York, which owns
7　the residence at The Sherry-Netherland.
8　Q.
Any other business that Genever BVI
9　has conducted other than owning Genever New
10　York?
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
12　the question.
13　A.
No.
14　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever entered into
15　any contracts?
16　A.
By contract, can you specify more?
17　I think the answer is yes.
18　Q.
Okay.
Can you elaborate?
19　A.
It entered into -- sorry -- Genever
20　BVI entered into a pledge agreement with an
21　entity called Roscalitar 2, and also with an
22　entity called Blue Capital Limited.
23　Q.
Other than those two pledge
24　agreements, has Genever BVI entered into any
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2　A.
Not from the documents and the
3　conversations I had in preparation for today.
4　Q.
Does Genever BVI have a bank
5　account?
6　A.
No.
7　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever paid any money
8　to any other person or entity?
9　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
10　the question.
11　A.
When you say "any other person or
12　entity," who are you referring to?
13　Q.
Any person or entity other than
14　Genever BVI.
15　A.
Has Genever BVI paid any money to
16　any other person or entity other than Genever
17　BVI?
18　Q.
Yeah, to anyone.
Has it ever
19　incurred a debt that it needed to pay money
20　for?
Has it ever cut a check?
Has it ever
21　spent any money on any goods or services?
22　A.
It hired a registered agent in the
23　BVI and paid them for secretarial services.
24　Q.
Other than that?
25　A.
No, not from -- I did not see that

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2　from the documents and the conversations I had
3　in preparation for today.
4　Q.
Do you know where the money came
5　from to pay the registered agent for the
6　secretarial services?
7　A.
I believe it came from Bravo Luck.
8　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever received any
9　money from any person or entity?
10　A.
No, that's not apparent from the
11　documents that I've reviewed in preparation for
12　today.
13　Q.
At the time of Genever BVI's
14　formation, was Mr. Kwok its sole shareholder?
15　A.
Yes.
And by Mr. Kwok, you're
16　referring to Miles Kwok?
17　Q.
Yes.
18　A.
Yes.
19　Q.
So for purposes of clarity of the
20　record, thank you for mentioning that, when I
21　refer to Mr. Kwok, I'm going to be referring to
22　Miles Kwok.
When I'm referring to Guo Qiang, I
23　will be referring to Mr. Kwok's son.
24　Is that okay?
25　A.
That's fine.

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2　Q.
And that's the way you have been
3　using those terms during the course of this
4　deposition, right?
5　A.
Yeah.
That's fine.
6　Q.
Can you direct your attention to the
7　next page, please, Mr. Podhaskie, which is
8　Bates stamped KWOK147.
The top, it says,
9　"Incorporated under the BVI Business Companies
10　Act 2004," and then it says, "Genever Holdings
11　Corporation," in the middle.
12　A.
Yes.
13　Q.
Can you please identify this
14　document?
15　A.
This appears to be a copy of the
16　share certificate for Genever BVI.
17　Q.
And as far as you know, this is a
18　true, correct, authentic and accurate document?
19　A.
Again, based on the documents I
20　reviewed in preparation for today, it would
21　appear to be an accurate copy.
22　Q.
And this provides that Mr. Kwok is
23　the owner of 1,000 shares, and those shares
24　have a par value of .001 cents; is that
25　correct?

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2　A.
I think it's .001 dollar, but yes.
3　Q.
Yes.
Thank you.
001 dollar?
4　A.
Yes.
5　Q.
Thank you.
6　And so the total value of Mr. Kwok's
7　share holding in Genever Corporation -- Genever
8　BVI would be one dollar; is that right?
9　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
10　the question.
11　A.
If the math adds up, then yes.
12　That's what it appears to say here.
13　Q.
Did Mr. Kwok pay a dollar for his
14　shares?
15　A.
From the documents I reviewed,
16　that's not reflected.
17　Q.
Do you know whether or not he paid
18　any amount of money for his shares, Mr. Kwok?
19　A.
I don't know.
20　Q.
Has Mr. Kwok been the sole
21　shareholder of Genever BVI for the entirety of
22　Genever BVI's existence?
23　A.
From the documents that I reviewed
24　in preparation for today, yes.
25　Q.
So Mr. Kwok is the sole owner of

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 **1 PODHASKIE 2 Genever BVI? 3 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 4 the question. 5 A. He is the sole shareholder of 6 Genever BVI. 7 Q. And are you distinguishing between 8 shareholders and owners because it's a 9 corporation? Is that why? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. But there is nobody else who owns 12 Genever BVI; is that correct? 13 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 14 the question. 15 A. Other than Mr. Kwok? 16 Q. Yes. 17 A. Based on the documents I reviewed 18 today, there's no other shareholder besides 19 Mr. Kwok. 20 Q. Who is Zhang Wei? 21 A. He is a colleague of Mr. Kwok's that 22 lives in China that ultimately lent the money 23 to purchase The Sherry-Netherland. 24 Q. Is he a family member of Mr. Kwok? 25 A. I would be speculating, so I don't**

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2　know.
3　MR. MITCHELL:
I caution the witness

4　not to speculate.
5　Q.
When you say Zhang Wei ultimately
6　lent the money to purchase The
7　Sherry-Netherland, to whom did Zhang Wei lend
8　the money?
9　A.
He lent the money to Bravo Luck, a
10　company that, at that time, was owned by
11　Mr. Kwok's son, Guo Qiang, and then Guo Qiang
12　ended up funding the purchase of The
13　Sherry-Netherland through Bravo Luck.
14　Q.
Does Mr. Zhang Wei have any -- own
15　any of the shares of Genever BVI?
16　A.
Based on the documents that I
17　reviewed in preparation for today, his
18　ownership is not reflected on those documents.
19　Q.
At any time during Genever BVI's
20　existence, did Mr. Zhang Wei own any shares of
21　Genever BVI?
22　A.
From the documents that I reviewed
23　in preparation for today, that is not
24　reflected.
25　Q.
Mr. Kwok was the sole director of

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 **1 PODHASKIE 2 Genever BVI at the time it was formed; is that 3 correct? 4 A. Yes. Again, based on what I 5 reviewed for today. 6 Q. Has Genever BVI, during the course 7 of its existence, ever had any directors other 8 than Mr. Kwok? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. Who were those other directors? 11 A. There was a corporate secretary, a 12 registered agent in the BVI that acted as a 13 director as well. 14 Q. Is that Elian First Director? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. And was that director -- was Elian 17 First Director only a director for a day or so, 18 until it was replaced by Mr. Kwok? 19 A. I don't know how long it was, but it 20 was a short period of time initially, yes. 21 Q. A day or a couple of days? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. Other than Elian First Director, 24 which was a director of Genever BVI for a day 25 or a couple of days, has there been any other**

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2　director of Genever BVI besides Mr. Kwok?
3　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
4　the question.
5　You can answer.
6　A.
No.
7　Q.
Has Mr. Kwok ever stopped being a
8　director of Genever BVI?
9　A.
No.
10　Q.
He's still a director to this day?
11　A.
He is currently still a director.
12　Q.
He is currently still the only
13　director?
14　A.
He is the only director.
Guo Qiang
15　is the president.
16　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever had any
17　offices?
18　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
19　the question.
20　A.
When you say "offices," do you mean
21　like business office, corporate office,
22　something like that?
23　Q.
Yes.
24　A.
It has a mailing address in the
25　British Virgin Islands, but it does not have an

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2　office that is what we typically think of as an
3　office like this.
4　Q.
Genever BVI has never had a business
5　or a corporate office?
6　A.
Correct.
7　Q.
Is the mailing address that Genever
8　BVI has the mailing address for its registered
9　agent for service of process?
10　A.
In the BVI?
11　Q.
Yes.
12　A.
Yes.
13　Q.
Does it have any other -- does
14　Genever hold -- strike that.
15　Does Genever BVI have any other
16　mailing address other than the mailing address
17　for its registered agent for service of process
18　in the BVI?
19　A.
Yes.
20　Q.
What other addresses does it have?
21　A.
There is another address in Hong
22　Kong where it maintains its books and records.
23　Q.
And what is that address?
24　A.
I don't know it off the top of my
25　head.
If I had the records in front of me, I

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2　would be able to find it.
3　Q.
And what is that address?
Is it the
4　office of another company?
5　A.
It's -- from what I understand, it's
6　just another mailing address or another -- just
7　an office where they keep the books and
8　records.
9　Q.
And who's in charge of maintaining
10　the books and records?
11　A.
Guo Qiang.
12　Q.
Any other addresses besides the
13　registered agent for service of process in the
14　BVI and the mailing address where the books and
15　records are kept in Hong Kong?
16　A.
No, not that I'm aware of.
17　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever had any
18　employees?
19　A.
No.
20　Q.
Does Genever BVI have a phone
21　number?
22　A.
I think there is a phone number for
23　the registered agent, but other than that, no.
24　Q.
Does Genever BVI have an e-mail
25　address?

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2　A.
No.
3　Q.
Does Genever BVI have any officers?
4　A.
Yes.
5　Q.
You mentioned Guo Qiang.
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
What is his role at Genever BVI?
8　A.
He is the president.
9　Q.
When did he become the president?
10　A.
May of 2015.
11　Q.
Did Genever BVI have any officers
12　from the time it was formed in February of 2015
13　until Guo Qiang became the president in May of
14　2015?
15　A.
If you consider a director an
16　officer, then yes.
17　Q.
And that would have been Mr. Kwok?
18　A.
Correct.
19　Q.
And Elian for a day or two?
20　A.
Yes.
21　Q.
Other than directors and other
22　than -- strike that.
23　Other than directors, between
24　February of 2015, when it was formed, and May
25　of 2015, when Guo Qiang became president, did

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2　Genever BVI have any officers?
3　A.
No.
4　Q.
Who appointed or elected Guo Qiang
5　as president in May of 2015?
6　A.
Mr. Kwok.
7　Q.
Has -- strike that.
8　Has Genever BVI ever had any other
9　officers, I'm not talking about directors, just
10　officers, other than Guo Qiang, the president?
11　A.
No.
12　Q.
Is Guo Qiang still the president?
13　A.
From the documents that I reviewed
14　in preparation for today, yes.
15　Q.
Between May of 2015, when he was
16　appointed president by Mr. Kwok, and today, has
17　Guo Qiang ever -- did he ever stop being
18　president for any period of time?
19　A.
Not that I'm aware of.
20　Q.
Did Mr. Kwok ever have an officer
21　role at Genever BVI?
22　A.
Not that I'm aware of.
23　Q.
And you're not aware of any other
24　officers besides Guo Qiang?
25　A.
Yes.
Correct.

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2　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever had a board
3　meeting?
4　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
5　the question.
6　A.
From the documents that I reviewed,
7　it's not reflected in there.
8　Q.
So based on everything you've seen,
9　the answer to that question is no?
10　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
11　the question.
12　A.
If Genever BVI had a board meeting,
13　it was not reflected in the documents I
14　reviewed for today's preparation.
15　Q.
What documents does Genever BVI
16　maintain?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question.
19　A.
The corporate documents that were
20　generated when it was formed, the share
21　certificate, the register of directors and
22　shareholders, and there was a resolution
23　appointing Guo Qiang as president as well.
24　Q.
And you know that there's an address
25　where those documents are maintained, but

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2　you're not sure if it's an office or a room or
3　what it is?
4　A.　Yes.
5　Q.　Do you know whether or not -- do you
6　know who owns that address, the address in Hong
7　Kong where the records are maintained?
8　A.　I believe it's a UBS office, but I'm
9　speculating.
10　MR. MITCHELL:
Again, I caution the
11　witness not to speculate.
12　Q.　UBS meaning the investment bank?
13　A.　Yes.
14　Q.　Are there any individuals who are
15　authorized to act on behalf of Genever BVI?
16　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
17　the question.
18　A.　Yes.
19　Q.　Who?
20　A.　Mr. Kwok and Guo Qiang.
Me, for
21　this deposition.　And whoever either one of
22　them appoints to act for the company.
23　Q.　Has either Mr. Kwok or Guo Qiang
24　ever appointed anyone to act for Genever BVI
25　other than you in connection with this

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2　deposition?
3　A.
I don't know.

4　MR. MITCHELL:
Just object to the
5　form of that question.
6　Q.
Who specifically appointed you to
7　act for Genever BVI for this deposition?
8　A.
Guo Qiang.
9　Q.
Are you authorized to act for
10　Genever BVI for any purpose other than this
11　deposition currently?
12　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
13　the question.
14　A.
I don't know.
15　Q.
What actions has Mr. Kwok taken on
16　behalf of Genever BVI?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question.
19　You can answer.
20　A.
Other than signing the corporate
21　formation documents, I don't know.
22　Q.
What actions has Guo Qiang taken on
23　behalf of Genever BVI?
24　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
25　the question.

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2　A.
I don't really understand what you
3　mean by "what actions."
Can you be more
4　specific?
5　Q.
To your knowledge, has Guo Qiang
6　ever done anything, ever attended a meeting,
7　spent money, engaged in any type of business
8　interaction at all ever on behalf of Genever
9　BVI?
10　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
11　the question.
12　A.
He was involved in the formation.
13　He was involved in the purchase of The Sherry,
14　in reviewing the different properties that they
15　thought about purchasing.
He signed various
16　documents for Genever BVI.
He communicated
17　with the representatives of The
18　Sherry-Netherland for the purchase.
He
19　communicated with the real estate brokers for
20　the purchase.
21　Q.
When you say he signed various
22　documents for Genever BVI, which documents are
23　you referring to?
24　A.
He signed a request for an
25　employer -- an EIN, employer identification

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2　number.
3　MR. MITCHELL:
Just so -- he's
4　asking you about Genever BVI.
5　THE WITNESS:
Oh, okay.
6　A.
Oh, that might have been for Genever
7　New York.
8　So for Genever BVI --
9　MR. MOSS:
Thank you for the
10　clarification.
11　Q.
Let's just go back.
12　You had an answer earlier, he was
13　involved in the formation, he was involved in
14　the purchase of The Sherry, and you had -- if
15　you want to go back and take a look at that
16　answer, that's fine, but I just want to make
17　sure the record is clear.
18　Was that answer relating to Genever
19　New York or Genever BVI?
20　A.
(Reviewing.)
So I guess, just to be
21　clear, Guo Qiang was involved in the formation
22　of Genever BVI.
After he was appointed as
23　president, I recall seeing several documents
24　that he signed for Genever BVI in his capacity
25　as president.
I don't recall what those are,

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2　as I sit here.
3　Other than that, I can't think of
4　anything.
5　Q.
Genever BVI is the sole owner of
6　Genever New York; is that correct?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
8　the question.
9　A.
Yes.
10　Q.
Is Genever BVI also the sole member
11　of Genever New York?
12　A.
Yes.
13　Q.
Is it correct that Genever New
14　York -- strike that.
15　Is it correct that Genever BVI
16　formed Genever New York?
17　A.
Yes.
From the documents I reviewed,
18　I believe that's accurate.
19　Q.
Can you direct your attention,
20　Mr. Podhaskie, to Exhibit 3, page KWOK193.
21　It's a document entitled "Genever Holdings
22　Corporation Written Consent of Director."
It's
23　Bates stamped KWOK193 to 194.
24　Can you identify this document?
25　A.
(Document review.)
Yes.

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2　Q.
Please do so.
3　A.
From the documents that I reviewed
4　in preparation for today, this appears to be a
5　copy of Genever BVI's written consent of sole
6　director, dated February 12, 2015.
7　Q.
And the signature block is Ho Wan
8　Kwok.
9　Is that Mr. Kwok?
10　A.
Yes.
11　Q.
Do you have any reason to believe
12　that this is not an accurate and authentic
13　document?
14　A.
No.
15　Q.
This document mentions Andrea Sanft,
16　S-A-N-F-T.
17　Who is she?
18　A.
She is a lawyer either with the firm
19　of Paul Weiss or Williams & Connolly.
20　Q.
And she was authorized to be an
21　authorized person on behalf of Genever BVI
22　according to this written consent; is that
23　correct?
24　A.
Yes, that's correct.
25　Q.
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2　authorized person to form Genever New York and
3　to take such other acts and do such other
4　things as are necessary to permit Genever New
5　York to exist and obtain authority to do
6　business in the state of New York and New York
7　City; is that correct?
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
9　the question.
10　You can answer.
11　A.
Yes, based on this written consent
12　of the sole director, that's accurate.
13　Q.
Is Genever New York an asset of
14　Genever BVI?
15　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
16　the question.
17　A.
If you assume that a ownership of a
18　limited liability company is an asset, then
19　yes.
20　Q.
Is that your understanding, that a
21　ownership of a limited liability company is an
22　asset?
23　A.
That is my personal understanding.
24　In my capacity as a representative
25　for Genever, I don't know.
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2　Q.
You don't know whether or not
3　Genever BVI has an understanding as to whether
4　or not Genever New York is one of its assets?
5　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
6　the question.
7　A.
So what is the question?
8　Q.
Is Genever New York an asset of
9　Genever BVI?
10　A.
Does Genever BVI consider Genever
11　New York an asset?
12　Q.
Yes.
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
Genever BVI considers Genever New
15　York to be one of Genever BVI's assets?
16　A.
Correct.
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question, asked and answered.
19　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever held any assets
20　other than Genever New York?
21　A.
From the documents that I reviewed
22　in preparation for today, no.
23　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever acquired an
24　asset other than Genever New York?
25　A.
Again, from what I reviewed in

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2　preparation for today, no.
3　Q.
Has Genever BVI ever sold an asset
4　other than Genever New York?
5　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
6　the question.
7　A.
Again, from what I reviewed in
8　preparation for today, no.
9　Q.
Are any of Genever BVI's assets
10　currently encumbered or pledged?
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
12　the question.
13　A.
The assets are not -- I don't think
14　I can answer because it's a little complicated.
15　The assets are not pledged.
Genever BVI's
16　assets are not pledged to anyone.
17　Q.
Let's just be clear what we're
18　talking about when we're talking about assets.
19　Does Genever BVI currently have any
20　assets other than Genever New York?
21　A.
Yes, they have their shares.
22　Q.
Whose shares?
23　A.
Genever BVI.
24　Q.
But doesn't Mr. Kwok hold those
25　shares?

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2　A.　Yes.
3　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
4　the question.
5　Q.　So my question is, does Genever BVI
6　itself hold any assets other than Genever New
7　York?
8　A.　No.
9　Q.　Is Genever New York currently
10　encumbered?
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
12　the question.
13　A.　What do you mean by "encumbered"?
14　Q.　Is it currently pledged to anyone?
15　A.　No.
16　Q.　Does anyone currently have a lien
17　against it?
18　A.　No.
19　Q.　Has it been promised to anybody in
20　connection with any possible future
21　transaction?
22　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
23　the question.
24　A.　There's the order from Judge
25　Ostrager in the case indicating that if Genever

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2　New York has to -- enters into a contract to
3　sell The Sherry-Netherland residence, it has to
4　provide PAX with written notice.
5　Q.
Other than Justice Ostrager's order,
6　is Genever New York encumbered in any way?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
8　the question.
9　A.
No, not that I'm aware of.
10　Q.
You testified that there was a point
11　in time where the assets of Genever BVI were
12　pledged -- strike that.
13　Has Genever BVI been assigned to
14　anyone?
15　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
16　the question.
17　A.
No.
18　Q.
You mentioned that there was a time
19　when Genever BVI's assets were pledged to an
20　entity called Roscalitar 2; is that correct?
21　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
22　the question.
23　A.
I believe that Genever BVI pledged
24　its shares to Roscalitar 2, but yes.
25　Q.
Pledged its shares in Genever New

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2　York?
3　A.
Its shares in Genever BVI.
4　Q.
Genever BVI pledged its own shares,
5　100 percent of its shares to Roscalitar 2?
6　A.
Yes, I believe that's accurate.
7　Q.
And by virtue of pledging a hundred
8　percent of its own shares, it was also pledging
9　Genever New York and the assets held by Genever
10　New York; is that correct?
11　A.
Yes.
12　Q.
Why was Genever BVI -- why were
13　Genever BVI shares pledged to Roscalitar 2?
14　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
15　the question.
16　A.
Because Zhang Wei had asked Genever
17　to pledge its shares via the loan.
18　Q.
Why did Zhang Wei want Genever to
19　pledge its shares?
20　A.
As security for the loan that he
21　gave to Genever ultimately to buy the
22　residence.
23　Q.
Who made the decision to pledge the
24　shares of Genever BVI to Roscalitar 2?
25　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form.

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2　A.
On behalf of Genever?
3　Q.
Yes.
4　A.
Guo Qiang.
5　Q.
Was Mr. Kwok involved in that
6　decision?
7　A.
I believe he was.
I don't know for
8　certain.
9　Q.
Did he know about the pledge at the
10　time it was entered into?
11　A.
I believe so.
12　MR. MITCHELL:
I just caution the
13　witness.
He said I believe.
Don't
14　speculate.
If you're speculating, please
15　don't do so, but
16　Q.
Was there any board resolution or
17　any official activity to commemorate the pledge
18　to Roscalitar 2?
19　A.
Not from what I reviewed in
20　preparation for today.
21　Q.
Is Roscalitar 2 owned by Zhang Wei?
22　A.
I don't know.
23　Q.
Is it controlled by Zhang Wei?
24　A.
I don't know.
25　Q.
Do you know who owns or controls

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2　Roscalitar 2?
3　A.
No.
4　Q.
There came a time when the pledge to
5　Roscalitar 2 was taken off; is that correct?
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
And that was in or around May of
8　2015; is that right?
9　A.
When the pledge was taken off?
I'd
10　have to review the dates, but it sounds
11　somewhere around that time.
12　Q.
Why was the pledge to Roscalitar 2
13　taken off?
14　A.
I don't know.
15　Q.
Was there any board meeting or
16　activity, formal corporate resolution around
17　that?
18　A.
Not from what I reviewed in
19　preparation for today.
20　Q.
I think you testified earlier that
21　later, after the pledge to Roscalitar was taken
22　off, Genever BVI shares were pledged to a
23　company called Blue Capital; is that correct?
24　A.
Yes.
25　Q.
And why were the shares pledged to
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2　Blue Capital?
3　A.
Guo Qiang was looking to obtain a
4　loan facility and he wanted to pledge the
5　shares of Genever BVI to Blue Capital as
6　security for a loan facility.
7　Q.
What was the loan for?
8　A.
He wanted to invest, you know, do
9　other kinds of investments.
10　Q.
Do you know who controls or owns
11　Blue Capital?
12　A.
No.
13　Q.
Was Mr. Kwok involved in the
14　decision to pledge Genever BVI's shares to Blue
15　Capital?
16　A.
I don't know.
17　Q.
Did he know about the pledge?
18　A.
I don't know.
19　Q.
Was the pledge to Blue Capital at
20　some point taken off?
21　A.
Yes, I believe so.
22　Q.
Why?
23　A.
I don't know.
24　Q.
And, currently, there's no pledge of
25　Genever BVI; is that correct?
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A.
Yes.

(Podhaskie Exhibit 4, Certificate of

Registration of Charge, marked for

identification.)

Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, I have handed you

Exhibit 4.

Can you identify this document?

A.
(Document review.)
This appears to

be a copy of the pledge from Genever BVI to

Roscalitar 2.

Q.
And it was put on on May 21, 2015;

is that correct?

A.
Yes.

Q.
Does this appear, based on your work

to prepare for this deposition, does this

appear to be a true and correct copy of the

registration of charge?

A.
(Document review.)
Yes.

Q.
And is this, this charge, Exhibit 4,

is that a document that Genever BVI would have

retained in the ordinary course of its

business?

A.
Yes.

Q.
Is the same true for the other

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2　exhibits that I've shown you today, other than
3　Exhibits 1 and 2, so Exhibits 3 and 4 are also
4　documents that would have been retained by
5　Genever BVI in the ordinary course of its
6　business?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
I just want to ask
8　you, for the record, you asked him about
9　4, he said yes.
10　So you're really only asking him
11　about 3 now, correct?
12　MR. MOSS:
Yes.
13　Q.
If you can flip through 3.
Are
14　those documents that Genever BVI or Genever New
15　York maintained in the ordinary course of its
16　business?
17　A.
(Document review.)
Yes.
18　(Podhaskie Exhibit 5, Notice of
19　Satisfaction or Release of Registered
20　Charge Pursuant to Section 165, marked for
21　identification.)
22　Q.
You have been handed Exhibit 5,
23　Mr. Podhaskie, which is a Notice of
24　Satisfaction or Release of Registered Charge
25　Pursuant to Section 165.

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2　Can you identify this document,
3　please?
4　A.
This appears to be a copy of a
5　Notice of Satisfaction or Release of Registered
6　Charge dated May -- sorry -- March 17, 2017.
7　Q.
And does this appear to be a true
8　and correct and authentic copy of the
9　satisfaction of charge?
10　A.
From what I reviewed in preparation
11　for today, yes.
12　Q.
And is this a document that Genever
13　BVI would have maintained in the ordinary
14　course of its business?
15　A.
Yes.
16　Q.
And is that consistent with Genever
17　BVI's testimony that the pledge to Roscalitar 2
18　was taken off on March 17, 2017?
19　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
20　the question.
21　A.
Yes.
22　Q.
After March 17, 2017, was Genever
23　BVI ever again pledged to Roscalitar 2?
24　A.
From the documents that I reviewed
25　in preparation for today, no.
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(Podhaskie Exhibit 6, Defendant's

Memorandum of Law in Opposition to

Plaintiff's Motion for an Order of

Pre-Judgment Attachment, marked for

identification.)

Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, you have been handed

Exhibit 6, which is Defendant's Memorandum of

Law in Opposition to Plaintiff's Motion for an

Order of Pre-Judgment Attachment filed by

Hodgson Russ LLP on behalf of the defendant.

Have you ever seen this document

before?

A.
Yes.

Q.
I'm going to direct your attention

to page 9, and I would like to direct your

attention -- you see the paragraph that starts

"As explained"?

A.
Which page -- which number 9?

Q.
Sure.
It's 9 or 15 of 30.

A.
Okay.
Yes.

Q.
And if you jump down one, two,

three, four, five -- six lines down.

A.
Uh-huh.

Q.
Do you see a sentence that starts

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2　with "While Kwok"?
3　A.
Yes.
4　Q.
"While Kwok is the sole shareholder
5　of Genever BVI, since May of 2015, the assets
6　of Genever BVI -- which by virtue of its
7　ownership of Genever USA include the
8　apartment -- have been pledged in their
9　entirety to Roscalitar 2, an unrelated third
10　party not owned by Kwok."
11　Do you see that?
12　A.
Yes.
13　Q.
And if you look at the top, do you
14　see that this document is dated May 16 of 2018?
15　A.
Yes.
16　Q.
And as of this date, the assets of
17　Genever BVI were not, in fact, pledged to
18　Roscalitar 2; is that correct?
19　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
20　the question.
21　A.
I think we established that the
22　Genever BVI pledge to Roscalitar 2 was removed
23　effective March 17, 2017, if I'm not mistaken.
24　Q.
So this is not a true statement; is
25　that correct?
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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
3　the question.
4　A.
I don't know that the release of the
5　charge was publicly available to Hodgson Russ
6　when they filed this brief.
7　Q.
So try to focus on the question.
8　I'm not asking you whether or not Hodgson Russ
9　knew that the statement was false.
10　I'm just asking you whether or not
11　this statement, when it was made to the court
12　on May 16, 2018, was true or false.
13　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
14　the question.
15　A.
(Document review.)
Again, if the
16　release of the charge was not publicly
17　available and was not known to Hodgson Russ,
18　then this statement would have been accurate.
19　Q.
Let me try it again.
20　Was this statement true or false?
21　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
22　the question.
23　Q.
When it was made on May 16, 2018?
24　MR. MITCHELL:
Asked and answered.
25　A.
And the statement you're referring

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2　to is?
3　Q.
Is the representation here that the
4　assets of Genever BVI have been pledged in
5　their entirety to Roscalitar 2 since May 2015.
6　A.
Again, I would refer to my prior
7　answer.
8　Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, that's a false
9　statement, correct?
10　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
11　the question.
12　A.
What do you mean by "false
13　statement"?
14　Q.
I mean, it was not true, as of
15　May 16, 2018, that the assets of Genever BVI
16　were pledged to Roscalitar 2, right?
17　A.
The pledge was released with an
18　effective date of March 17, 2017.
I don't know
19　when this was filed with the BVI records or
20　with the BVI Business Companies Act.
21　So I don't know what was available
22　in May of 2018 that would have reflected
23　whether or not the assets were still pledged.
24　Q.
Were the assets of Genever BVI
25　pledged to Roscalitar 2 as of May 16, 2018?
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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Objection to the form
3　of the question, asked and answered.
4　You have asked him the same question
5　six times.
You're not getting the answer
6　you want.
I'm sorry for that.
But he has
7　answered it.
8　MR. MOSS:
He hasn't answered it.
9　A.
Okay.
So what was the question?
10　Q.
Were the assets of Genever BVI
11　pledged to Roscalitar 2 as of May 16, 2018?
12　A.
The pledge from Genever BVI to
13　Roscalitar 2 was released effective March 17,
14　2017.
15　Q.
So the answer to my question is no,
16　right?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question.
19　A.
What was your question?
20　Q.
Try to listen to the question and
21　answer the question I'm asking.
You'd know the
22　question I was asking if you were trying to
23　answer it.
24　MR. MITCHELL:
Objection to whatever
25　that was.
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2　Q.
Were the assets of Genever BVI
3　pledged to Roscalitar 2 as of May 16, 2018?
4　MR. MITCHELL:
Objection, asked and
5　answered.
6　A.
Again, the pledge to Roscalitar 2
7　from Genever BVI was released effective
8　March 17, 2017.
I think that answers your
9　question.
10　Q.
Did anyone at Genever BVI or Genever
11　New York review this brief before it was filed
12　with the court?
13　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
14　the question.
This is outside of the
15　scope of what you asked him in terms of
16　your deposition notices.
You didn't ask
17　him about any legal documents filed or
18　anything of that nature.
19　So if he can answer the question, I
20　will allow him to answer it, but he
21　certainly can't be expected to have that
22　knowledge.
23　Q.
Can you answer?
24　A.
I don't know.
25　Q.
By the way, do you know when Genever

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2　BVI received -- you testified earlier that the
3　satisfaction of charge document was maintained
4　by Genever BVI in the ordinary course of its
5　business, right?
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
Do you know when Genever BVI
8　received a copy of that document?
9　A.
I don't.
10　Q.
Do you have any reason to believe
11　that it took a year for Genever BVI to receive
12　a copy of that document?
13　A.
I don't know how long it took for
14　them to receive the document.
15　Q.
Is it your best understanding that
16　Genever BVI, when you say it maintained the
17　document in its ordinary course, would have had
18　that document in its files by the end of 2017?
19　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
20　the question.
21　A.
I don't know, but based on my
22　experience with lawyers and people in the BVI,
23　they do things much slower than we do.
24　Q.
Do you know whether or not the
25　satisfaction of charge of the Roscalitar pledge
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2　was publicly available in 2017?
3　A.
I don't know.
4　Q.
It's not Genever BVI's testimony
5　that it takes a year for documents registered
6　in -- relating to charges in the BVI to become
7　publicly available, is it?
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
9　the question.
10　And, again, this is outside the
11　scope of the 30(b)(6) notice.
If he
12　knows, he can answer, but he certainly
13　can't be expected to know.
14　A.
I don't know how long it takes.
15　(Podhaskie Exhibit 7, Certificate of
16　Registration of Charge, marked for
17　identification.)
18　Q.
You have been handed Exhibit 7,
19　Mr. Podhaskie.
20　Can you identify this document?
21　MR. MITCHELL:
I'm sorry.
We are
22　calling this 7?
23　MR. MOSS:
Yes.
24　A.
(Document review.)
It appears to be
25　a copy of a Certificate of Registration of
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2　Charge dated February 14, 2018.
3　Q.
And is this the charge, the pledge
4　to Blue Capital that you testified that was
5　made in connection with Guo Qiang's loan?
6　A.
It would appear to be, yes.
7　Q.
To your knowledge, is this -- to
8　Genever BVI's knowledge, is this a true and
9　accurate copy of the pledge document?
10　A.
(Document review.)
Yes, it appears
11　to be.
12　Q.
And is this a document that Genever
13　BVI maintains in the ordinary course of its
14　business?
15　A.
This would be, yes.
16　Q.
And is Genever BVI's testimony that
17　it's not sure whether or not its sole director
18　and sole shareholder, Mr. Kwok, knew about this
19　pledge when it was entered into?
20　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
21　the question.
22　You can answer.
23　A.
I don't know.
24　Q.
Who would know the answer to that
25　question?
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2　A.
Probably Mr. Kwok.
3　Q.
Well, you recall Mr. Kwok testified
4　that he didn't know anything about any pledges,
5　right?
Did you know that?
6　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
7　the question.
8　A.
If that's what his testimony was.
I
9　don't recall exactly what he testified to.
10　Q.
At the time this pledge was entered
11　into, Mr. Kwok was still the sole shareholder
12　and sole director of Genever BVI, right?
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
Were there any discussions at
15　Genever BVI regarding the fact that this
16　charge, this pledge was entered into when
17　Pacific Alliance's lawsuit was pending?
18　MR. MITCHELL:
Objection to the form
19　of the question.
20　A.
Not that I'm aware of.
21　Q.
You testified earlier that this Blue
22　Capital pledge, at some point, was taken off or
23　satisfied; is that correct?
24　A.
That's my understanding, yes.
25　Q.
Did that -- did you testify -- let

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**1 PODHASKIE 2 me just ask, what was the reason for it being 3 taken off? 4 A. I don't know. 5 Q. Was it taken off -- was the 6 reason -- strike that. 7 Was it taken off for anything having 8 to do with Pacific Alliance's lawsuit? 9 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 10 the question. 11 A. I don't know. 12 Q. Was it taken off for anything having 13 to do with The Sherry-Netherland's proprietary 14 lease? 15 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 16 the question. 17 A. I don't know. 18 Q. Were the pledges in violation of 19 Genever New York's proprietary lease with The 20 Sherry-Netherland? 21 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 22 the question. It calls for a legal 23 conclusion. 24 A. No. 25 Q. Did Genever -- no. Okay.**
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2　(Podhaskie Exhibit 8, Notice of
3　Satisfaction or Release of Registered
4　Charge, marked for identification.)
5　Q.
You have been handed Exhibit 8,
6　Mr. Podhaskie.
7　Can you identify it, please?
8　A.
This appears to be a copy of a
9　Notice of Satisfaction or Release of Registered
10　Charge.
It's dated effective June 12, 2018.
11　Q.
And is this the satisfaction of the
12　Blue Capital charge that we were just talking
13　about?
14　A.
Yes.
15　Q.
Is this a true and correct copy,
16　authentic copy of the satisfaction of charge?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question.
19　A.
It would appear to be, yes.
20　Q.
And is this a document that's
21　maintained by Genever BVI in the ordinary
22　course of its business?
23　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
24　the question.
25　A.
Yes, it would be.
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2　Q.
And you don't have anything to add

3　about discussions around this or why this
4　pledge was taken off, right?
5　A.
No, I don't know why it was taken
6　off.
7　Q.
Did you ask Guo Qiang, when you
8　spoke to him to prepare for the deposition, why
9　this pledge was taken off?
10　A.
No.
11　Q.
Did Genever BVI -- anyone at Genever
12　BVI ever have any discussions about
13　transferring ownership of Genever BVI to anyone
14　other than Mr. Kwok?
15　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
16　the question.
17　A.
I don't know.
Not that I'm aware
18　of.
19　Q.
Did Genever BVI, or anyone on behalf
20　of Genever BVI, ever approach The
21　Sherry-Netherland to ask whether or not the
22　ownership of Genever BVI could be restructured
23　and assigned to Mr. Kwok's son?
24　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
25　the question.
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2　A.
No, not on behalf of Genever BVI.
3　Q.
On behalf of anyone?
Were there

4　ever any -- was there ever a request to The
5　Sherry-Netherland to transfer or assign
6　ownership of Genever BVI or Genever New York or
7　The Sherry-Netherland to Mr. Kwok's son?
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
9　the question.
10　A.
There was a request made to The
11　Sherry-Netherland to transfer ownership from
12　Mr. Kwok to Guo Qiang, his son.
13　Q.
To transfer ownership of what?
14　A.
The Sherry-Netherland.
15　Q.
And when was that request made?
16　A.
I don't recall the date off the top
17　of my head.
18　Q.
Whose idea was it to make that
19　request?
20　A.
I believe Guo Qiang.
21　Q.
Why was the request made?
22　A.
Because he initially wanted to
23　purchase The Sherry-Netherland himself and The
24　Sherry didn't like the idea of someone his age
25　at the time, you know, a mid 20-year-old,

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2　owning this residence.
And so his father
3　became the owner and then they had the idea of,
4　after the fact, maybe approaching the board and
5　seeing if Guo Qiang could become the owner.
6　Q.
And did Mr. Kwok know about that
7　request?
8　A.
Yes, I think he was aware of it.
9　Q.
Do you know who made the request to
10　The Sherry-Netherland?
11　A.
Who specifically, no.
12　Q.
Were there ever any other
13　discussions about transferring ownership of
14　Genever BVI, Genever New York or The
15　Sherry-Netherland to anyone other than
16　Mr. Kwok?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question.
19　A.
I don't know.
20　Q.
Other than the discussions we have
21　talked about, about the pledges?
22　A.
Yes.
23　MR. MITCHELL:
Sorry.
Just for the
24　record, I just want to make sure.
25　You're answering his question that

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2　you understood his question to mean only
3　discussions about the pledges, correct,
4　not, yes, there were other -- the record
5　is just not clear.
I just want to make
6　sure --
7　MR. MOSS:
Let me try it again.
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Yeah.
9　Q.
Other than the pledges that we've
10　talked about to Roscalitar 2 and Blue Capital,
11　and other than the request to transfer
12　ownership of The Sherry-Netherland to
13　Mr. Kwok's son, were there ever any discussions
14　about pledges, transfers or assignments of
15　either Genever BVI, Genever New York or The
16　Sherry-Netherland?
17　A.
There was a trust agreement with
18　Bravo Luck, but other than that, I don't know.
19　Q.
Is it true that Mr. Kwok has an
20　ownership interest in The Sherry-Netherland
21　apartment?
22　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
23　the question.
24　A.
No, that's not accurate.
25　Q.
Does Mr. Kwok own The

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2　Sherry-Netherland apartment through his
3　ownership of Genever BVI which, in turn, owns
4　Genever New York which, in turn, owns the
5　apartment?
6　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
7　the question.
8　A.
No, that's not accurate.
9　Q.
Okay.
Is it true that Mr. Kwok's
10　ownership interest in the apartment is through
11　a limited liability company?
12　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
13　the question.
14　A.
That's not accurate.
15　Q.
This is Exhibit 24 from Mr. Kwok's
16　deposition.
17　MR. MOSS:
Sorry.
We don't have
18　extra copies, but we handed it out today
19　during Mr. Kwok's deposition.
20　THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
Counsel, we have
21　three minutes left on the tape.
22　We are now off the record.
The time
23　is 4:25 p.m.
24　(Recess taken.)
25　THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
This marks the

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2　beginning of tape number two.
We are now
3　back on the record.
The time is 4:38 p.m.
4　BY MR. MOSS:
5　Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, you have in front of
6　you Yvette Wang's, Yan Ping Wang's affidavit
7　submitted in this case on May 16, 2018 or --
8　it's sworn on May 15, and the ECF stamp is
9　May 16.
10　Do you see that?
11　A.
Yes.
12　Q.
This was Exhibit 24 from Mr. Kwok's
13　deposition earlier today.
14　Do you recall I asked you whether or
15　not Mr. Kwok has an ownership interest in the
16　apartment through a limited liability company
17　and you testified, no, he does not?
18　Do you recall that testimony?
19　A.
Yes.
20　Q.
Take a look at paragraph 2.
The
21　first sentence reads, "Mr. Kwok's ownership
22　interest in the apartment through a limited
23　liability company is not in real property."
24　Is it a true statement that Mr. Kwok
25　has an ownership interest in The

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2　Sherry-Netherland apartment through a limited
3　liability company?
4　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
5　the question.
6　A.
Mr. Kwok does not have an ownership
7　interest in the apartment.
He has an ownership
8　interest in The Sherry-Netherland Corporation,
9　which then leases the real property to Genever
10　New York.
11　Q.
So Mr. Kwok's ownership interest is
12　in The Sherry-Netherland Corporation?
13　A.
His ownership interest of the shares
14　of The Sherry-Netherland Corporation, is that
15　what you're referring to?
16　Q.
You testified he has a ownership
17　interest in The Sherry-Netherland Corporation.
18　A.
Yes.
19　Q.
That's correct, Mr. Kwok has an
20　ownership interest in The Sherry-Netherland
21　Corporation?
22　A.
Yes.
23　Q.
And that ownership interest relates
24　to the apartment on the 18th floor?
25　MR. MITCHELL:
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**1 PODHASKIE 2 the question. 3 A. He has a proprietary lease to the 4 apartment on the 18th floor, yes. 5 Q. That's related to that ownership 6 interest -- 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. -- in The Sherry-Netherland 9 Corporation, right? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. And Mr. Kwok owns that interest in 12 The Sherry-Netherland Corporation shares 13 through Genever New York and through Genever 14 BVI, right? 15 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 16 the question. 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. Does anyone else, other than 19 Mr. Kwok, Miles Kwok, have an ownership 20 interest in the shares of The Sherry-Netherland 21 Hotel with respect to the 18th floor apartment? 22 A. I don't know. 23 Q. As Genever BVI and Genever New 24 York's corporate representative, can you 25 identify anyone else, sitting here today?**
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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
3　the question.
4　A.
Sitting here in this room?
5　Q.
Yeah.
6　A.
That has an ownership interest in --
7　MR. MITCHELL:
That was my
8　objection.
9　MR. MOSS:
Okay.
That's what
10　happens when you depose a lawyer.
11　MR. MITCHELL:
For the record,
12　several people in the room will gladly
13　accept an ownership share in The Sherry.
14　Q.
As Genever BVI's and Genever New
15　York's corporate representative here today, can
16　you identify anyone else who has an ownership
17　interest in the shares of The Sherry-Netherland
18　Hotel with respect to the 18th floor apartment
19　beside Mr. Miles Kwok?
20　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
21　the question.
22　A.
I don't know.
23　Q.
Does Mr. Kwok -- strike that.
24　Has Guo Qiang ever lived in The
25　Sherry-Netherland apartment on the 18th floor?
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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
3　the question.
4　A.　When you say "lived," do you mean
5　primary residence?
6　Q.　I mean, has he ever resided there
7　for extended periods of time?
8　A.　Yes.
9　Q.　Has The Sherry-Netherland Hotel ever
10　been Guo Qiang's primary residence?
11　A.　Yes.
12　Q.　When?
13　A.　I'm speculating, but I think it was
14　in 2015.
15　Q.　Since 2015, has Guo Qiang ever
16　been -- strike that.
17　Since 2015, has The
18　Sherry-Netherland Hotel ever been Guo Qiang's
19　primary residence?
20　A.　I don't know.
21　Q.　Has he ever visited since 2015?
22　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form.
23　MR. MOSS:
Let me try it again.
24　Strike it.
25　Q.　Has Guo Qiang ever slept in The

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2　Sherry-Netherland apartment since 2015?
3　A.
I assume so, but I can't say, you
4　know, with certainty.
I don't -- I don't sleep
5　with him, so.
6　Q.
Let's go back to Exhibit 3,
7　Mr. Podhaskie, and I would like to direct your
8　attention to page KWOK193.
9　A.
Okay.
10　Q.
See it says, in the first paragraph,
11　it refers to Genever BVI being the sole member
12　of Genever New York.
13　Is Genever BVI the sole member of
14　Genever New York?
15　A.
Just for the record, it says "being
16　the sole director of Genever Holdings
17　Corporation."
18　Q.
So take a look at the first
19　resolution.
See "Resolved, that Andrea Sanft"?
20　Do you see that?
21　A.
Yes, yes.
22　Q.
And look at the last sentence of
23　that paragraph.
"To the extent necessary to
24　complete such actions, the corporation," and
25　the corporation refers to Genever BVI?

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**1 PODHASKIE 2 A. Uh-huh. 3 Q. "As sole member of Genever New 4 York." 5 Do you see that? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. Is Genever BVI the sole member of 8 Genever New York? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. Has Genever BVI been the sole member 11 of Genever New York since Genever New York's 12 foundation? 13 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 14 the question. 15 A. Yes. 16 MR. MOSS: Well, that's because it's 17 a bad question. 18 Q. Has Genever BVI been the sole member 19 of Genever New York's since Genever New York's 20 formation? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. If you look at the third resolution 23 there, there's a resolution relating to Michael 24 O'Connor. 25 A. Uh-huh.**
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2　Q.
Who is Michael O'Connor?
3　A.
He is an attorney either with the
4　firm of Paul Weiss or Williams & Connolly.
I'm
5　not sure.
I think Paul Weiss, but I'm not
6　positive.
7　Q.
And so Ms. Sanft was authorized to
8　form Genever New York, and Mr. O'Connor was
9　authorized to cause Genever New York, once
10　formed, to enter into a purchase agreement with
11　The Sherry-Netherland; is that correct?
12　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
13　the question.
14　A.
Yes.
15　Q.
And so the plan, from formation, was
16　that once Genever New York was formed, it would
17　enter into a purchase agreement with The
18　Sherry-Netherland relating to the 18th floor,
19　correct?
20　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
21　the question.
22　A.
Yes.
23　Q.
And the purpose of forming Genever
24　New York was to enter into that agreement with
25　The Sherry-Netherland?
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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
3　the question.
4　A.
That was one of the purposes, yes.
5　Q.
What were the other purposes?
6　A.
To invest in other real estate as
7　they deemed fit.
8　Q.
Genever New York and Genever BVI
9　were formed within days of each other, right?
10　A.
Yes, around the same time.
11　Q.
You said that Genever New York had
12　other purposes to invest in other real estate
13　as they deemed fit.
14　Has Genever New York ever invested
15　in any other real estate besides The
16　Sherry-Netherland Hotel?
17　A.
No.
18　Q.
So Genever New York and Genever BVI
19　were both formed to hold Mr. Kwok's interest in
20　The Sherry-Netherland apartment?
21　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
22　the question.
23　A.
That's not accurate.
24　Q.
Okay.
What's inaccurate about it?
25　A.
Initially, Guo Qiang, Mr. Kwok's

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2　son, wanted to purchase the apartment at The
3　Sherry-Netherland.
They formed the
4　corporations with the understanding that he
5　would be the actual owner, but The
6　Sherry-Netherland did not like the idea of Guo
7　Qiang being the owner because they felt that he
8　was too young.
9　Q.
So is it your testimony that Genever
10　New York and Genever BVI were formed to hold
11　Guo Qiang's interest in The Sherry-Netherland,
12　but Mr. Kwok just ended up being the owner
13　because that's what The Sherry-Netherland
14　wanted?
15　A.
They were formed to own the real
16　estate that Guo Qiang and the family wanted to
17　invest in.
They made Mr. Kwok the sole member
18　of Genever BVI, and as the sole member of
19　Genever BVI, the owner of Genever New York
20　because The Sherry-Netherland felt that Guo
21　Qiang was too young to be the owner of this
22　particular apartment.
23　Q.
I direct your attention to page 178
24　of Exhibit 3.
25　Can you identify this document?
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2　A.
(Document review.)
It is a -- looks
3　like a printout from the New York State
4　Department of State, the corporations public
5　inquiry system for Genever Holdings LLC.
6　Q.
And it shows -- and that's the
7　entity we have been referring to as Genever New
8　York, right?
9　A.
Yes.
10　Q.
And this document refers to Genever
11　New York being incorporated in New York
12　effective February 17, 2015; is that correct?
13　A.
That's what this says, yes.
14　Q.
And that's consistent with Genever's
15　understanding, right?
16　A.
Yes.
17　Q.
And so Genever New York was formed
18　about five days after Genever BVI was formed?
19　A.
I don't recall exactly, but they
20　were formed around the same time.
21　Q.
Does it refresh your recollection if
22　I told you a few minutes ago we looked at
23　documents showing that Genever BVI was formed
24　on February 12?
25　A.
No.
Which document were we looking

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2　at?
3　Q.
Why don't you take a look at 145?
4　MR. SARNOFF:
Of Exhibit 3.
5　A.
(Document review.)
Yes, it was
6　formed -- according to this, it was formed
7　February 13, 2015.
8　Q.
Genever BVI was formed on
9　February 13, 2015, and Genever New York was
10　formed on February 17, 2015, right?
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
12　the question.
13　A.
Yes, based on these documents.
14　Q.
So four days apart?
15　A.
That would be correct.
16　Q.
What was Genever -- Genever New York
17　was formed to enter into the agreement with The
18　Sherry-Netherland Hotel, correct?
19　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
20　the question, asked and answered.
21　A.
Yes, that was one of the purposes.
22　Q.
Has the business purpose of Genever
23　New York changed over time?
24　A.
No.
25　Q.
Have any purposes been added or

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2　subtracted?
3　A.　No.
4　Q.　What business has Genever New York
5　conducted since it was formed in February 2015?
6　A.　It owns The Sherry-Netherland
7　apartment.
8　Q.　Any other business?
9　A.　No.
10　Q.　Has Genever New York ever entered
11　into a contract other than its contracts with
12　The Sherry-Netherland Hotel?
13　A.　I don't know.
14　Q.　Has Genever New York ever spent or
15　disbursed any money?
16　A.　Yes.
17　Q.　To whom?
18　A.　The Sherry-Netherland.
19　Q.　For maintenance fees?
20　A.　Yes.
21　Q.　Anything else?
22　A.　I think that's it.
23　Q.　Does The Sherry-Netherland -- has
24　Genever New York spent any money on anything
25　else other than to The Sherry-Netherland for

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2　maintenance fees?
3　A.
Not that I know of.
4　Q.
Does the -- does Genever New York
5　have a bank account?
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
With which bank?
8　A.
Chase.
9　Q.
When was that formed?
10　A.
2018.
11　Q.
Does the money from the -- do the
12　payments to The Sherry-Netherland come from
13　that bank account?
14　A.
Yes.
15　Q.
How is that bank account funded?
16　A.
It receives money from Golden Spring
17　New York.
18　Q.
Who owns Golden Spring New York?
19　A.
China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong
20　Limited.
21　Q.
Who owns China Golden Spring Group
22　Hong Kong Limited?
23　A.
Guo Qiang.
24　Q.
Does Mr. Kwok have any interest in
25　China Golden Spring Group Hong Kong Limited?

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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
3　the question.
4　A.
No.
5　Q.
Before 2018, did Genever New York
6　have a bank account?
7　A.
Before what year?
8　Q.
2018.
9　A.
I don't know.
10　Q.
Did Genever New York have to pay
11　maintenance to The Sherry-Netherland before
12　2018?
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
Where did that money come from?
15　A.
I believe it came from Golden Spring
16　New York.
17　Q.
Has anyone, other than Golden Spring
18　New York, ever put any money into Genever New
19　York's bank account?
20　A.
I don't know.
21　Q.
So, to your knowledge, Genever New
22　York did not have any bank account prior to
23　2018?
24　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
25　the question.

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2　A.
I don't know.
3　Q.
Do you know why Genever New York
4　formed a bank account in 2018?
5　A.
I don't know.
6　Q.
Has any money ever been deposited
7　into Genever New York's bank account other than
8　money from Golden Spring that was meant to pay
9　the maintenance to The Sherry-Netherland hotel?
10　A.
I don't know.
11　Q.
Genever New York and Genever BVI are
12　parties to this lawsuit.
13　You're aware of that?
14　A.
Yes.
15　Q.
And Genever New York and Genever BVI
16　were represented by the Hodgson Russ firm up
17　until a few weeks ago; is that right?
18　A.
That's correct.
19　Q.
And now they are represented by
20　Mr. Mitchell's firm; is that correct?
21　A.
Yes.
22　Q.
Who was paying Genever New York and
23　Genever BVI's legal fees to Hodgson Russ?
24　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
25　the question.
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2　A.
I don't know.
3　Q.
Who is paying Genever BVI and
4　Genever New York's legal fees to Mr. Mitchell's
5　firm?
6　MR. MITCHELL:
I'm going to instruct
7　him not to answer, privilege.
8　MR. MOSS:
Who pays the bills is
9　privileged?
10　DI
MR. MITCHELL:
Potentially.
I'm
11　asserting privilege.
You can make the
12　argument it's not.
13　Q.
Are you going to follow your
14　counsel's instruction?
15　A.
I will follow my counsel's
16　instruction.
17　Q.
Do you know whether Mr. Kwok is
18　paying Genever BVI and Genever New York's legal
19　fees in connection with this lawsuit?
20　A.
He's not.
21　Q.
But you don't know who is?
22　A.
No.
23　Q.
Mr. Kwok and Genever New York sued
24　The Sherry-Netherland Hotel a few years ago in
25　a dispute relating to maintenance of his

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2　terrace.

3　Does that sound familiar?
4　A.
Yes.
5　Q.
And Mr. Kwok and Genever New York
6　were represented by the same law firm --
7　A.
Yes.
8　Q.
-- in that lawsuit?
9　Who paid that law firm's legal fees?
10　A.
I don't know.
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Just for
12　clarification of the record, do you have
13　the name of the firm?
Just because it's
14　not my firm, I don't believe it was
15　Hodgson Russ, I just want to make sure --
16　when you say the same firm, you mean they
17　both had the same attorney, not that it
18　was one of either of our firms, correct?
19　MR. MOSS:
Correct.
20　Q.
So I don't know -- do you know the
21　name of the firm?
22　A.
That represented Genever and
23　Mr. Kwok in the prior lawsuit against The
24　Sherry?
25　Q.
Yes.
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2　A.
I think it was Stone Magnanini.
3　Q.
Do you know who was paying Stone
4　Magnanini's legal fees for Genever New York?
5　A.
I don't know.
6　Q.
Do you know whether or not Stone
7　Magnanini was paid legal fees from one person
8　or entity or from two people or entities in
9　connection with that lawsuit?
10　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form.
11　A.
I don't know.
12　Q.
In other words, did the same person
13　or entity pay the legal fees for both Mr. Kwok
14　and Genever in The Sherry-Netherland lawsuit?
15　A.
I don't know.
16　Q.
Does the same person or entity pay
17　the legal fees for Mr. Kwok and both Genever
18　entities in this lawsuit?
19　DI
MR. MITCHELL:
I instruct my client
20　not to answer.
21　MR. MOSS:
That's a yes-or-no
22　question.
23　Q.
Does the same person or entity pay
24　the legal fees for both Mr. Kwok and Genever
25　entities in this lawsuit?

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2　MR. MITCHELL:
That one, you can
3　answer.
4　A.
I don't know.
5　Q.
Has Genever BVI been the sole
6　shareholder of Genever New York for the
7　entirety of Genever New York's existence?
8　A.
No, that's not accurate.
9　Q.
Why not?
10　A.
Genever New York is an LLC.
It has
11　members.
It doesn't have shareholders.
12　Q.
Has Genever BVI been the sole member
13　of Genever New York for the entirety of Genever
14　New York's existence?
15　A.
Yes.
16　Q.
Does Mr. Kwok control Genever BVI?
17　A.
No.
18　Q.
Who does?
19　A.
Guo Qiang.
20　Q.
Does Mr. Kwok control Genever New
21　York?
22　A.
No.
23　Q.
Who does?
24　A.
Guo Qiang.
25　Q.
Mr. Kwok does not control Genever

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2　BVI, even though he's the sole director and the
3　sole shareholder?
4　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
5　the question, asked and answered.
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
Does Zhang Wei have any role with
8　respect to Genever New York?
9　A.
I don't know.
10　Q.
Does Zhang Wei own any of the
11　membership interests of Genever New York?
12　A.
That's not reflected from the
13　documents I reviewed in preparation for today.
14　Q.
Does Genever New York have any
15　directors?
16　A.
No, I don't think so.
17　Q.
Has it ever had any directors?
"It"
18　being Genever New York?
19　A.
I think it has just an authorized
20　person and its sole member.
Other than that,
21　no.
22　Q.
The sole member is Genever BVI?
23　A.
Yes.
24　Q.
Who's the authorized person?
25　A.
Guo Qiang.

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2　Q.　Have there ever been any other
3　authorized persons for Genever New York other
4　than Guo Qiang?
5　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
6　the question.
7　A.　Other than the attorneys that were
8　referenced in the resolutions in the formation
9　in the purchase of The Sherry, no.
10　Q.　Does Genever New York have any
11　offices?
12　A.　No.
13　Q.　Has it ever had any offices?
14　A.　No.
15　Q.　Does Genever New York have any
16　employees?
17　A.　No.
18　Q.　Has Genever New York ever had any
19　employees?
20　A.　No.
21　Q.　Does Genever New York have a phone
22　number?
23　A.　I don't know.
24　Q.　Since Genever New York does not have
25　any directors, I assume it's never had a board

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2　meeting; is that right?
3　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form.
4　A.
That was not reflected from the
5　documents that I reviewed for today's
6　preparation.
7　Q.
Does Genever New York have any
8　address?
9　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
10　the question.
11　A.
781 Fifth Avenue.
12　Q.
And what is that?
13　A.
That's The Sherry-Netherland.
14　Q.
Genever New York's -- strike that.
15　Is the 18th floor part of the
16　address?
17　A.
Yes.
18　Q.
So Genever New York's address is the
19　apartment that Mr. Kwok lives in on the 18th
20　floor of The Sherry-Netherland?
21　A.
That's the mailing address for
22　Genever New York.
23　Q.
Does it have any other addresses?
24　A.
Not that I'm aware of.
Actually,
25　there might be an address for its registered

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2　agent for service of process in Albany, but
3　other than that, I'm not aware of any.
4　Q.
Other than the address for a
5　registered agent, Genever New York does not
6　have any addresses apart from The
7　Sherry-Netherland Hotel?
8　A.
No, not that I'm aware of.
9　Q.
Does Genever New York possess any
10　documents?
11　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
12　the question.
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
Where are they maintained?
15　A.
I believe in The Sherry-Netherland,
16　but I'm not -- I don't know for sure.
17　Q.
Are any of the Genever New York's --
18　are any of Genever New York's documents
19　maintained in -- at the British Virgin Islands
20　address where Genever BVI's documents are held?
21　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
22　the question.
23　A.
I don't know.
24　Q.
Are Genever -- are any Genever BVI
25　documents maintained at The Sherry-Netherland?

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2　A.
I don't know.
3　Q.
What documents does Genever New York
4　possess?
5　A.
Its corporate formation documents,
6　its stock register, the mail it receives.
7　Q.
Are there any people who are
8　authorized to act on behalf of Genever New
9　York?
10　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
11　the question, asked and answered.
12　A.
You mean other than Mr. Kwok and his
13　son?
14　Q.
Well, so is Mr. Kwok authorized to
15　act on behalf of Genever New York?
16　A.
Mr. Kwok?
I don't know.
17　Q.
Is Guo Qiang authorized to act on
18　behalf of Genever New York?
19　A.
Yes.
20　Q.
Who authorized him to do that?
21　A.
He was authorized by Genever BVI.
22　Q.
And did Mr. Kwok, as the sole
23　director and sole shareholder of Genever BVI,
24　authorize Genever BVI to authorize Guo Qiang to
25　act on behalf of Genever New York?
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2　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
3　the question.
4　A.
I would assume so.
I don't know for
5　certain, but I know that, in or around
6　May 2015, Guo Qiang was made an authorized
7　person for Genever New York.
8　Q.
What assets does Genever New York
9　hold?
10　A.
It owns the shares in The
11　Sherry-Netherland Corporation and it has a bank
12　account with JPMorgan Chase.
13　Q.
And that's the bank account that's
14　funded by Golden Spring New York whose purpose
15　is to hold the money to pay the maintenance
16　fees for The Sherry-Netherland?
17　A.
The bank account's purpose, I don't
18　know if it's to hold the money, but it is --
19　the bank account is used to pay the maintenance
20　for Genever New York.
21　Q.
And you can't identify any other
22　payments that have come out of the bank
23　account, other than to pay the maintenance for
24　The Sherry-Netherland Hotel?
25　A.
I don't know.
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2　Q.
Has Genever New York ever held any
3　other assets -- by the way, strike that.
4　What's the most money that's ever
5　been in that JPMorgan account, that Chase
6　account for Genever New York?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
8　the question.
9　A.
I don't know.
10　Q.
Any sense?
11　A.
Not really, no.
12　Q.
More than \$3 million?
13　A.
The monthly maintenance for The
14　Sherry is about 60,000.
So, you know, enough
15　to cover that every month.
16　Q.
Has Genever New York ever held any
17　other assets besides the Chase account and the
18　ownership in The Sherry-Netherland?
19　A.
I don't know.
20　Q.
Has Genever New York ever sold any
21　assets?
22　A.
Not that I'm aware of.
23　Q.
Are you aware of any acquisitions
24　other than the bank account and the shares of
25　The Sherry-Netherland?

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2　A.
It's not reflected in the documents
3　I reviewed for today.
4　Q.
Other than Justice Ostrager's order,
5　are any of -- is Genever New York encumbered in
6　any way?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
8　the question.
9　A.
There is a trust agreement between
10　Genever New York and Bravo Luck, Mr. Kwok and
11　Genever BVI, I believe, that involves The
12　Sherry-Netherland residence, but other than
13　that, and Justice Ostrager's order, I'm not
14　aware of any other encumbrances.
15　Q.
Are you aware of whether Genever New
16　York's assets have ever been encumbered in the
17　past other than the trust agreement and Justice
18　Ostrager's order?
19　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
20　the question.
21　A.
I would say the pledge agreements we
22　discussed earlier to Roscalitar 2 and Blue
23　Capital.
Other than that, I'm not aware of
24　any.
25　(Podhaskie Exhibit 9, Declaration of

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2　Trust and Agreement, marked for
3　identification.)
4　Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, you have been landed
5　Exhibit 9.
6　Is this the trust agreement that you
7　have been referring to relating to Bravo Luck
8　and the Genever entities?
9　A.
(Document review.)
Yes, this
10　appears to be a copy of that trust agreement.
11　Q.
It's dated February 17, 2015.
12　Is that when it was entered into?
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
If you look at the bottom on the
15　left-hand side, do you know whose signature
16　that is?
I'm sorry.
The bottom of the first
17　page, 543.
18　A.
Yes.
19　Q.
Whose is it?
20　A.
Guo Qiang.
21　Q.
How about on the right-hand side,
22　whose signature is that?
23　A.
I don't know for certain, but it
24　looks like Mr. Kwok's.
25　Q.
And on page 544, is it same thing,

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2　Guo Qiang's signature is on the left and
3　Mr. Kwok's is on the right?
4　A.
It appears so, yes.
5　Q.
And on page 545, is Guo Qiang's the
6　first signature and Mr. Kwok's are the next
7　three?
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
9　the question.
10　A.
You mean the three below the other
11　three signatures besides Guo Qiang's?
12　Q.
Yes.
13　A.
Yes, it appears so.
14　Q.
Guo Qiang signed on behalf of Bravo
15　Luck Limited; is that right?
16　A.
Yes.
17　Q.
And Mr. Kwok signed on behalf of
18　Genever New York, Genever BVI and Mr. Kwok,
19　himself, right?
20　A.
Yes.
21　Q.
Do you know whether or not
22　counsel -- there was any counsel who
23　represented any of the parties in connection
24　with this agreement?
25　A.
I don't know.

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2　Q.
Do you know where this agreement was
3　maintained?
4　A.
I don't know.
5　Q.
So I want to direct your attention
6　down in the background section.
7　Number 2 -- first of all, do you see
8　at the top, when it defines the parties, the
9　BVI company is Genever Holdings Corporation?
10　A.
Yes.
11　Q.
That's the company we have been
12　referring to as Genever BVI, right?
13　A.
Yes, I believe so.
14　Q.
And the company, Genever Holdings
15　LLC, which you and I have been referring to as
16　Genever New York, is referred to in this
17　document as the US SPV; is that right?
18　A.
Yes.
19　Q.
And SPV stands for special purpose
20　vehicle; is that right?
21　A.
I believe so, yes.
22　Q.
And if you look in the background,
23　number 2, it says, "The purpose of the BVI
24　company," which is Genever BVI, "is a special
25　purpose vehicle holding the US SPV."

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2　Do you see that?
3　A.
Yes.
4　Q.
And the US SPV is Genever New York,
5　right?
6　A.
Yes.
7　Q.
So according to this document, the
8　purpose of Genever BVI is to hold Genever New
9　York, right?
10　A.
That's what this says, yes.
11　Q.
Is that accurate?
12　A.
That's one of the purposes, as I
13　understand it, yes.
14　Q.
And in number 3, "The purpose of the
15　US SPV," that's Genever New York, right?
16　A.
Yes.
17　Q.
So "The purpose of Genever New York
18　is a special purpose vehicle holding a property
19　situated at," and then it has several units on
20　the 18th floor at The Sherry-Netherland."
21　Is that right?
22　A.
That's what it says, yes.
23　Q.
So the purpose of Genever New York
24　is to be a special purpose vehicle to hold the
25　18th floor residence, right?
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2　A.
That's one of the purposes, yes.
3　Q.
The document doesn't say it's one of
4　the purposes.
It says it's the purpose, right?
5　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form.
6　A.
The document says that the US SPV is
7　a special purpose vehicle holding a property
8　situated at, and it references the 18th floor
9　of The Sherry-Netherland.
10　Q.
You said one of the purposes was to
11　hold the apartment, and I'm just saying the
12　document says the purpose of the US SPV, right?
13　Not one of the purposes.
14　A.
Yes.
15　Q.
And it says the purpose of the BVI
16　Company is to hold Genever New York, not one of
17　the purposes, right?
18　A.
Right.
But it's one of the
19　purposes.
20　Q.
And it says, in number 4, that "For
21　the avoidance of doubt, the trustee is holding
22　the BVI Company and the US SPV," those are the
23　two Genever entities, right?
24　A.
Yes.
25　Q.
"The trustee is holding the Genever

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2　entities in trust for the owner."
3　And the owner is Bravo Luck; is that
4　correct?
5　A.
Yes.
6　Q.
And it says that the owner, which is
7　Bravo Luck, is a beneficial owner of New
8　York -- Genever New York and Genever BVI,"
9　right?
10　A.
That's what it says, yes.
11　Q.
Is that consistent with Genever's
12　understanding?
13　A.
Yes.
14　Q.
Did Genever New York or Mr. Kwok
15　ever disclose to The Sherry-Netherland, when it
16　was applying for the lease, that Bravo Luck was
17　going to be the beneficial owner of the Genever
18　entities?
19　A.
I don't know.
20　Q.
You think The Sherry-Netherland
21　would have wanted to know who the beneficial
22　owner of the apartment was going to be?
23　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
24　the question, calls for speculation.
25　Q.
You can answer.

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2　A.
I don't know what The
3　Sherry-Netherland would have wanted to know,
4　but I know that they knew the money came from
5　Bravo Luck.
6　Q.
Did you, in the course of your
7　review of documents to prepare for this
8　deposition, did you see any document evidencing
9　that The Sherry-Netherland knew that Bravo Luck
10　was going to be the beneficial owner of the
11　apartment?
12　A.
I didn't see anything in my
13　preparation for today.
14　Q.
See there are covenants by the
15　trustee in Section 3?
See those covenants?
16　A.
Are we still on page 1?
17　Q.
Sorry.
Section 3, "The trustee
18　further covenants with the owner."
19　Do you see that?
20　A.
Oh.
Yes, yes, yes.
21　Q.
And you see on the first page that
22　the trustee is Mr. Kwok?
23　A.
Yes.
24　Q.
So take a look at 3.4, "The trustee
25　covenants that it will not create or allow to

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be created any charge, mortgage or lien on the

BVI company, the US SPV and/or assets held by

the BVI company and/or the US SPV unless with

the prior written approval of the owner and the

co-owners."

Do you see that?

A.
Yes.

Q.
The pledges to Blue Capital and

Roscalitar 2 would require prior written

approval of the owner and the co-owners under

this agreement; is that right?

A.
Yes.

Q.
And the owner is Bravo Luck?

A.
Yes.

Q.
And who are the co-owners?
The

co-owners, if you look at background, page 1,

543, Section 6, "The owner made known to the

trustee that certain parties" -- "third parties

may co-own the property through the owner in

accordance with the co-operation plan and the

trustee is also acting as a trustee for those

third parties."

Do you know who those co-owner third

parties are?

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2　A.
I don't know.
3　Q.
Did --
4　A.
I'm sorry.
I don't know who the
5　co-owners are.
The owner is defined as Bravo
6　Luck.
7　Q.
Yes.
Did Mr. Kwok, the trustee, get
8　prior written approval of the owner, Bravo
9　Luck, or any of the co-owners before pledging
10　the shares of Genever BVI to either Roscalitar
11　2 or Blue Capital?
12　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
13　the question.
14　A.
I don't know.
15　Q.
Have you seen any documents
16　suggesting that such written approval was
17　obtained?
18　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
19　the question.
20　A.
I didn't see any in my preparation
21　for today.
22　Q.
As of early 2015, when Mr. Kwok was
23　applying to The Sherry-Netherland board, who
24　owned Bravo Luck?
25　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of

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2　the question.
3　A.
I think, as of January 2015, Bravo
4　Luck was owned by Guo Qiang.
5　Q.
Isn't it true that Mr. Kwok,
6　himself, was also a 50 percent owner of Bravo
7　Luck?
8　A.
I think Guo Qiang transferred
9　50 percent of the ownership in Bravo Luck to
10　his father around that time.
11　Q.
By the way, what business is Guo
12　Qiang in?
13　A.
Finance.
14　(Podhaskie Exhibit 10, Letter from
15　Stevenson Wong dated March 4, 2015, marked
16　for identification.)
17　Q.
Mr. Podhaskie, you have been handed
18　Exhibit 10, which is a letter from Stevenson
19　Wong dated March 4, 2015, to the board of
20　directors of The Sherry-Netherland, regarding
21　the application of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan to become a
22　shareholder of The Sherry-Netherland, Inc.,
23　Bravo Luck Limited, the company.
24　Do you see that?
25　A.
Yes.
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2　Q.
Was Stevenson Wong representing
3　Mr. Kwok in connection with his application to
4　become a shareholder of The Sherry-Netherland?
5　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
6　the question.
7　And, additionally, this is outside
8　of the scope of the 30(b)(6) notice.
If
9　he has knowledge, I will allow him to
10　answer, but note my objection for the
11　record.
12　MR. MOSS:
Well, Genever New York
13　was a --
14　MR. MITCHELL:
If you're asking
15　about Genever New York.
You asked
16　specifically about Mr. Kwok, who his
17　attorney was.
18　MR. MOSS:
Sure.
But Mr. Kwok was
19　buying this on behalf of an entity,
20　Genever New York.
21　MR. MITCHELL:
Are you asking about
22　the entity?
23　BY MR. MOSS:
24　Q.
I'm asking, what was Stevenson
25　Wong's role -- who was Stevenson Wong

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2　representing in connection with The
3　Sherry-Netherland application?
4　A.
I don't know.
Based on this letter,
5　it appears they were representing Mr. Kwok or
6　his family, but I don't know.
7　Q.
If you look at page -- the second
8　page, SN74, Stevenson Wong writes, "We confirm
9　that, A, the company," which is defined on the
10　previous page as Bravo Luck, "is legally and
11　beneficially owned as to 50 percent by Mr. Kwok
12　Ho Wan and 50 percent by Mr. Guo Qiang,
13　respectively."
14　Do you see that?
15　A.
Yes.
16　Q.
Is it correct that, as of March 4,
17　2015, Mr. Kwok owned 50 percent of Bravo Luck?
18　A.
That is what this letter reflects.
19　I was not prepared to talk about the ownership
20　of Bravo Luck today.
21　Q.
Do you have any reason to believe
22　that this document is inaccurate?
23　A.
No.
24　Q.
Do you know whether or not Bravo
25　Luck -- do you know whether or not Mr. Kwok's

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2　ownership interest in Bravo Luck has increased
3　or decreased or stayed the same since March 4,
4　2015?
5　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
6　the question.
Again, I think this is
7　outside the scope.
I will allow him to
8　answer if he has the knowledge, but
9　A.
I understand that Guo Qiang is
10　currently the 100 percent owner of Bravo Luck.
11　Q.
Do you understand how it came to be
12　that Mr. Kwok lost his 50 percent?
13　MR. MITCHELL:
Same objection.
14　A.
I don't know.
15　Q.
Do you know when that happened?
16　MR. MITCHELL:
Same objection.
17　A.
I don't know.
18　Q.
Have you seen any documents relating
19　to that transfer?
20　MR. MITCHELL:
Same objection.
21　A.
Not in my preparation for today's
22　deposition.
23　MR. MOSS:
Why don't we take a break
24　now?
Let's go off the record.
25　THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
We are now off

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 **1 PODHASKIE 2 the record. The time is 5:27 p.m. 3 (Recess taken.) 4 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back 5 on the record. The time is 5:36 p.m. 6 BY MR. MOSS: 7 Q. Mr. Podhaskie, you've answered a lot 8 of questions today saying yes or no based on 9 the documents I had access to in my review. 10 Did you have access to Genever New 11 York and Genever BVI's full set of files? 12 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 13 the question. 14 I don't know that that's exactly 15 what he said, but I know you're 16 paraphrasing, but... 17 MR. MOSS: Okay. 18 A. Whatever they had, I reviewed, so. 19 Q. Did you ever ask to see any 20 documents that weren't provided to you? 21 MR. MITCHELL: Object to the form of 22 the question. 23 A. No. 24 Q. Do you have any reason to believe 25 that there were documents missing from your**

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2　review?
3　A.
I don't know.
There's no reason for
4　me to think anything was missing, I don't know.
5　Q.
Did you say any document referencing
6　the fact that Guo Qiang has control of Genever
7　BVI?
8　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
9　the question.
10　A.
There's a document that indicates
11　he's the president of Genever BVI.
Other than
12　that, no.
13　Q.
Do you know whether or not that
14　document was produced to us in this litigation?
15　A.
I don't know.
I believe it was, but
16　I don't know.
17　Q.
Did you ever see any document
18　providing that Genever BVI authorized Guo Qiang
19　to act on behalf of Genever New York?
20　A.
There was a document that Guo Qiang
21　became the authorized person of Genever New
22　York.
I don't recall who executed it or what,
23　but I remember seeing a document that indicated
24　he was the authorized person, and Guo Qiang, he
25　signed an application for an EIN for Genever

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2　New York.
3　Q.
Have you ever seen any document or
4　did you see any document in the course of your
5　review providing that Yvette Wang had any role
6　with Genever BVI or Genever New York?
7　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
8　the question.
9　A.
I know that she signed an affidavit
10　in connection with the litigation that made
11　statements about Genever and The
12　Sherry-Netherland.
Other than that, I don't
13　recall.
14　Q.
Do you know where she obtained the
15　information she put in her affidavit relating
16　to Genever and The Sherry-Netherland?
17　MR. MITCHELL:
Object to the form of
18　the question, and I think this is outside
19　the scope of the 30(b)(6).
20　If he has the knowledge, I'm glad to
21　let him answer.
22　MR. MOSS:
Okay.
23　A.
I don't know.
24　MR. MOSS:
Nothing further at this
25　time.
Thank you, Mr. Podhaskie.

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 **1 PODHASKIE 2 MR. MITCHELL: Just before you start 3 going off the record, I just have a couple 4 questions for Mr. Podhaskie, just to 5 clarify the record. 6 MR. MOSS: Sure. 7 EXAMINATION BY 8 MR. MITCHELL: 9 Q. Mr. Podhaskie, you were provided 10 with a number of exhibits today. One of those 11 exhibits was Podhaskie 3 -- Exhibit 3, rather. 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. If you'll note, these were 14 identified, when questions were asked, by Bates 15 stamps number, Kwok, and then a number. 16 Do you see that? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. Looking now at Podhaskie -- is it 19 your understanding that these documents were 20 produced by Mr. Kwok's attorney in relation to 21 this litigation? 22 MR. MOSS: Objection, leading. 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Looking at Exhibit Podhaskie 4, do 25 you see any such Bates stamps?**
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1　PODHASKIE

2　A.
No.
3　Q.
Prior to today, do you have any
4　recollection of seeing this document?
5　MR. MOSS:
What document?
6　MR. MITCHELL:
Exhibit 4 that we're
7　talking about.
8　MR. MOSS:
Okay.
9　A.
I think I may have seen it as one of
10　the documents that was filed in connection with
11　the litigation, but other than that, no.
12　Q.
Have you seen -- in your review of
13　the documents, Genever BVI and Genever New York
14　as they have been referred to here today, in
15　reviewing in preparation for this deposition,
16　did you see those documents within their
17　records?
18　MR. MOSS:
Objection to the form.
19　A.
Did I see Exhibit 4?
20　Q.
Exhibit 4, correct.
21　MR. MOSS:
I don't know what "those
22　documents" mean.
23　Q.
Exhibit 4, this set of pages that is
24　Exhibit 4.
25　A.
So did I see Exhibit 4 in connection

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1　PODHASKIE

2　with the documents I reviewed in connection for
3　today's deposition?
4　Q.
Correct.
5　A.
I saw it in connection with -- if I
6　recall, I saw it in connection with the filings
7　that were made in the New York litigation.
8　Q.
Was it contained within the records
9　that you reviewed in preparation for today?
10　A.
The records maintained by Genever
11　New York?
12　Q.
Correct.
13　A.
And Genever BVI?
I don't think so.
14　Q.
Exhibit 5, do you see a Bates stamp
15　on that document?
16　A.
(Document review.)
No.
17　Q.
Now, this document appears to have
18　been filed in the litigation or in a
19　litigation, anyway.
I believe that's the
20　docket number in this case.
21　A.
Yes, it appears so.
22　Q.
Do you recall seeing this document
23　before today?
24　A.
Again, I think I may have seen this
25　when I reviewed the litigation file as

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1　PODHASKIE

2　something that was filed in the litigation.
3　Q.　Do you recall seeing this document
4　within the books and records maintained by
5　Genever New York?
6　A.　I don't recall, no.
7　Q.　How about Genever BVI?
8　A.　I don't recall.
9　Q.　Exhibit 6, which is the memorandum?
10　A.　Yes.
11　Q.　Do you see any Bates stamps on
12　there?
13　A.　(Document review.)
No.
14　Q.　But there is a docket filing number,
15　correct?
16　A.　Yes.
17　Q.　Do you recall seeing this document
18　in the books and records maintained by Genever
19　New York?
20　A.　Exhibit 6?
21　Q.　Correct.
22　A.　No.
23　Q.　Genever BVI?
24　A.　No.
25　Q.　Exhibit 7, do you see a Bates stamp

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 **1 PODHASKIE 2 number on this document, when you find it? 3 A. (Document review.) No. 4 Q. Do you know -- up top, do you see 5 that it was filed in this proceeding in the 6 eCourt's filing system? 7 A. By "the proceeding," you're 8 referring to the litigation? 9 Q. Correct. 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. In your review of Genever New York's 12 books and records, do you recall seeing this 13 document? 14 A. I don't recall. 15 Q. In your review of Genever BVI's 16 books and records, do you recall seeing this 17 document? 18 A. I don't recall. 19 Q. Exhibit 8, do you see a Bates stamp 20 number on here? 21 A. No. 22 Q. And Exhibit 8, at the top, do you 23 see -- would you agree that it was filed in New 24 York County Clerk in this litigation? 25 MR. MOSS: Objection, leading.**

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1　PODHASKIE

2　A.
Yes.
3　Q.
And prior to today, do you recall
4　seeing this document?
5　A.
I think I would have seen it in
6　connection with my review of the litigation
7　file.
8　Q.
In your review of the Genever New
9　York books and records, do you recall seeing
10　this document?
11　A.
I don't recall.
12　Q.
And in your review of the books and
13　records for Genever BVI, do you recall seeing
14　this document?
15　A.
I don't recall.
16　MR. MITCHELL:
No further questions.
17　MR. MOSS:
No questions.
18　MR. SARNOFF:
Thank you.
19　THE VIDEOGRAPHER:
This concludes
20　today's deposition.
We are now going off
21　the record.
The time is 5:46 p.m.
Thank
22　you.
23　(Time noted:
5:46 p.m.)

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1　A C K N O W L E D G M E N T

3　STATE OF
)
4　:ss
5　COUNTY OF
)

7　I, DANIEL PODHASKIE, hereby certify
8　that I have read the transcript of my testimony
9　taken under oath in my deposition; that the
10　transcript is a true, complete and correct
11　record of my testimony, and that the answers on
12　the record as given by me are true and correct.

16　________________________
17　DANIEL PODHASKIE

20　Signed and subscribed to before me
21　this _______ day of ______________, ____.

24　________________________________________
25　Notary Public, State of ___________

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 **1 C E R T I F I C A T E 2 3 STATE OF NEW YORK ) 4 :ss 5 COUNTY OF RICHMOND) 6 7 I, MELISSA GILMORE, a Notary Public 8 within and for the State of New York, do hereby 9 certify: 10 That DANIEL PODHASKIE, the witness 11 whose deposition is hereinbefore set forth, was 12 duly sworn by me and that such deposition is a 13 true record of the testimony given by such 14 witness. 15 I further certify that I am not 16 related to any of the parties to this action by 17 blood or marriage; and that I am in no way 18 interested in the outcome of this matter. 19 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto 20 set my hand this 16th day of December, 2019. 21 22 23 24 \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ 25 MELISSA GILMORE**

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NAME OF CASE: PACIFIC ALLIANCE v. KWOK HO WAN

NAME OF WITNESS: DANIEL PODHASKIE
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additionally (1)　answered (12)　assets (29)　back (5)

\$　113:7　18:13;19:5;47:18;　14:14;25:10;47:4,　43:11,15;75:3;80:6;
address (22)　60:24;62:3,7,8;63:5;　15,19;48:9,13,15,16,　116:4
\$3 (1)　16:19;34:24;35:7,8,　86:20;95:5;99:11;　18,20;49:6;50:11,19;　background (3)
101:12　16,16,21,23;36:3,6,　116:7　51:9;59:5,16;61:4,15,　105:6,22;110:17
14,25;39:24;40:6,6;　apart (2)　23,24;62:10;63:2;　bad (1)
A　97:8,16,18,21,25;　86:14;98:6　100:8;101:3,17,21;　81:17
98:4,20　apartment (24)　102:16;110:3　bank (17)
AARON (1)　addresses (4)　24:14;59:8;73:21;　assign (1)　27:4;40:12;88:5,7,
3:7　35:20;36:12;97:23;　74:2,5,10;75:16,22;　71:5　13,15;89:6,19,22;
aaron@lmesqcom (1)　98:6　76:2,7,24;77:4,21;　assigned (2)　90:4,7;100:11,13,17,
3:9　adds (1)　78:18,25;80:2;83:20;　50:13;70:23　19,22;101:24
able (1)　30:11　84:2,22;87:7;97:19;　assignments (1)　Based (13)
36:2　administer (1)
6:15　107:11;108:22;
109:11　73:14
assume (5)　21:10;23:16;29:19;
31:17;32:16;33:4;
accept (1)　affidavit (3)　apparent (1)　9:11;46:17;80:3;　39:8;46:11;55:15;
78:13　75:6;118:9,15　28:10　96:25;100:4　64:21;86:13;114:4;
access (2)　affiliation (1)　appear (8)　assuming (1)　116:8
116:9,10　19:12　7:21;21:12;29:21;　17:15　Bates (13)
accordance (1)　again (16)　55:15,17;57:7;66:6;　Attachment (2)　19:24;20:7,15,20,
110:21　13:6;29:19;33:4;　69:19　58:5,10　22;29:8;44:23;
according (3)　40:10;47:25;48:7;　appearances (1)　attended (3)　119:14,25;121:14;
45:22;86:6;106:7　57:23;60:15,19;61:6;　7:21　15:8,10;42:6　122:11,25;123:19
account (17)　63:6;65:10;73:7;　appears (17)　attention (9)　became (4)
27:5;88:5,13,15;　79:23;115:6;121:24　21:2;23:10,17;　20:2,20;29:6;44:19;　37:13,25;72:3;
89:6,19,22;90:4,7;　against (2)　29:15;30:12;45:4;　58:15,17;80:8;84:23;　117:21
100:12,13,19,23;
101:5,6,17,24　49:17;92:23　55:9;57:4;65:24;　105:5　become (5)
account's (1)　age (1)　66:10;69:8;103:10;　attorney (5)　37:9;65:6;72:5;
100:17　71:24　104:4,13;114:5;　11:22;82:3;92:17;　112:21;113:4
accurate (19)　agent (9)　121:17,21　113:17;119:20　beginning (2)
9:12;18:17;21:12;　27:22;28:5;33:12;　application (5)　Attorneys (3)　22:9;75:2
23:15,18;29:18,21;　35:9,17;36:13,23;　15:14;112:21;　3:4;6:4;96:7　behalf (21)
44:18;45:12;46:12;　98:2,5　113:3;114:3;117:25　authentic (5)　8:24;11:8;15:15;
51:6;60:18;66:9;　ago (3)　applying (2)　23:14;29:18;45:12;　40:15;41:16,23;42:8;
73:24;74:8,14;83:23;　85:22;90:17;91:24　108:16;111:23　57:8;69:16　45:21;52:2;58:11;
94:8;106:11　agree (1)　appointed (5)　authority (1)　70:19;71:2,3;99:8,15,
acquired (1)　123:23　38:4,16;40:24;41:6;　46:5　18,25;104:14,17;
47:23　AGREED (3)　43:22　Authorization (3)　113:19;117:19
acquisitions (1)　6:4,9,13　appointing (1)　20:21,25;21:8　below (1)
101:23　agreement (14)　39:23　authorize (2)　104:10
Act (13)　26:20;73:17;82:10,　appoints (1)　99:24,24　beneficial (4)
23:4;29:10;40:15,　17,24;86:17;102:9,　40:22　authorized (21)　108:7,17,21;109:10
22,24;41:7,9;61:20;　17;103:2,6,10;　approach (1)　6:15;40:15;41:9;　beneficially (1)
99:8,15,17,25;117:19　104:24;105:2;110:12　70:20　45:20,21,25;46:2;　114:11
acted (1)　agreements (2)　approaching (1)　82:7,9;95:19,24;96:3;　beside (1)
33:12　26:24;102:21
al (1)　72:4
approval (4)　99:8,14,17,20,21;
100:6;117:18,21,24　78:19
besides (8)
acting (1)　7:7　110:5,11;111:8,16　available (5)　23:23;31:18;34:2;
110:22　Albany (1)　argument (1)　60:5,17;61:21;65:2,　36:12;38:24;83:15;
actions (4)　98:2　91:12　7　101:17;104:11
41:15,22;42:3;　Alliance (1)　around (8)　Avenue (2)　best (2)
80:24　7:6　53:7,11,16;70:3;　3:5;97:11　13:23;64:15
activity (2)　Alliance's (2)　83:10;85:20;100:5;　avoidance (1)　bills (1)
52:17;53:16　67:17;68:8　112:10　107:21　91:8
Acts (2)　allow (5)　Asia (1)　aware (18)　block (1)
23:4;46:3　11:23;63:20;　7:6　24:5;36:16;38:19,　45:7
actual (1)　109:25;113:9;115:7　assert (1)　22,23;50:9;67:20;　Blue (14)
84:5　amount (1)　12:3　70:17;72:8;90:13;　26:22;53:23;54:2,5,
Actually (1)　30:18　asserting (1)　97:24;98:3,8;101:22,　11,14,19;66:4;67:21;
97:24
add (1)　and/or (2)　91:11　23;102:14,15,23　69:12;73:10;102:22;
70:2　110:3,4　asset (10)　110:9;111:11
added (2)　Andrea (2)　25:3,6,9;46:13,18,　B　board (8)
25:21;86:25　45:15;80:19　22;47:8,11,24;48:3　39:2,12;52:16;
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DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019

53:15;72:4;96:25;
111:23;112:19　48:3,19,23;49:5;
50:11,13,23;51:3,4,　69:12;73:10;102:23;
110:9;111:11　communicate (2)
13:2,8　conversations (4)
16:10;26:2;27:3;

books (10)　12,13,24;53:22;54:5,　case (4)　communicated (2)　28:2
35:22;36:7,10,14;　25;55:10,21;56:5,14;　19:22;49:25;75:7;　42:16,19　co-operation (1)
122:4,18;123:12,16;　57:13,23;59:5,6,17,　121:20　Companies (3)　110:21
124:9,12　22;61:4,15,19,20,24;　cause (1)　23:4;29:9;61:20　co-own (1)
both (10)　62:10,12;63:2,7,10;　82:9　Company (25)　110:20
13:19;14:7,9,11,15;　64:2,4,7,11,16,22;　caution (3)　7:16,19;22:7;24:8,　co-owner (1)
83:19;92:17;93:13,　65:6;66:13;67:12,15;　32:3;40:10;52:12　10;32:10;36:4;40:22;　110:24
17,24　69:21;70:11,12,13,19,　cents (1)　46:18,21;53:23;　co-owners (6)
bottom (3)
21:14;103:14,16　20,22;71:2,6;72:14;
73:15;74:3;77:14,23;　29:24
certain (4)　74:11;75:16,23;76:3;
105:9,11,14,24;　110:6,11,16,17;
111:5,9
Bravo (26)　80:11,13,25;81:7,10,　52:8;100:5;103:23;　107:16,22;110:3,4;　copies (1)
28:7;32:9,13;73:18;　18;83:8,18;84:10,18,　110:19　112:23;114:9　74:18
102:10;103:7;104:14;　19;85:18,23;86:8;　certainly (3)　compilation (1)　copy (18)
108:3,7,16;109:5,9;　90:11,15;91:3,18;　11:23;63:21;65:12　20:14　21:7;23:10,18;
110:14;111:5,8,24;　94:5,12,16;95:2,22;　certainty (1)　complete (2)　29:15,21;45:5;55:10,
112:3,6,9,23;114:10,　98:24;99:21,23,24;　80:4　80:24;125:10　17;57:4,8;64:8,12;
17,20,24;115:2,10　102:11;104:18;105:9,　Certificate (7)　complicated (1)　65:25;66:9;69:8,15,
break (1)　12,23,24;106:8;　23:5,11;29:16;　48:14　16;103:10
115:23　107:15,22;108:8;　39:21;55:3;65:15,25　concludes (1)　corporate (21)
brief (4)　110:3,4;111:10;　certify (1)　124:19　8:9;9:15;10:2;
15:3,4;60:6;63:11
briefly (1)　117:7,11,18;118:6;
120:13;121:13;122:7,　125:7
changed (2)　conclusion (1)
68:23　11:16;12:10,18;
13:18;14:2,8;19:21;
14:18　23;124:13　25:16;86:23　conducted (3)　20:7,17;33:11;34:21;
British (4)　BVI's (19)　charge (21)　26:5,9;87:5　35:5;39:19;41:20;
22:5;23:4;34:25;　14:13;28:13;30:22;　36:9;55:4,18,20;　confirm (1)　53:16;77:24;78:15;
98:19　32:19;45:5;47:15;　56:20,24;57:6,9;60:5,　114:8　99:5
broader (1)　48:9,15;50:19;54:14;　16;64:3,25;65:16;　connection (18)　Corporation (23)
15:22　57:17;65:4;66:8,16;　66:2,3;67:16;69:4,10,　12:8;16:14;19:12;　8:24;9:8;22:4,5,6,
brokers (1)　78:14;90:23;98:20;　12,16;110:2　40:25;49:20;66:5;　17;23:6;29:11;30:7;
42:19　116:11;123:15　charges (1)　91:19;93:9;104:23;　31:9;44:22;76:8,12,

business (20)　65:6　113:3;114:2;118:10;　14,17,21;77:9,12;
14:7;26:4,8;29:9;　C　Chase (4)　120:10,25;121:2,5,6;　80:17,24,25;100:11;
34:21;35:4;42:7;46:6;　88:8;100:12;101:5,　124:6　105:9
55:23;56:6,16;57:14;　called (7)　17　Connolly (2)　corporations (2)
61:20;64:5;66:14;
69:22;86:22;87:4,8;　8:1;13:10,12;26:21,
22;50:20;53:23　check (1)
27:20　45:19;82:4
Consent (4)　84:4;85:4
correctly (1)
112:11　calling (1)　China (4)　44:22;45:5,22;　22:8
buy (5)　65:22　31:22;88:19,21,25　46:11　counsel (4)
15:7,18;24:18;25:6;　calls (2)　chose (1)　consider (2)　7:20;74:20;104:22,
51:21　68:22;108:24　25:13　37:15;47:10　22
buying (1)　came (6)　City (1)　considers (1)　counsel's (2)
113:19　28:4,7;53:4;89:15;　46:7　47:14　91:14,15
BVI (203)　109:4;115:11　clarification (3)　consistent (3)　County (3)
8:24;9:4,7,20;10:5,　can (41)　13:4;43:10;92:12　57:16;85:14;108:11　7:9;123:24;125:5
12;11:9,17;13:19;　10:14,15,23;11:13;　clarify (1)　contained (1)　couple (3)
14:7,9,12,15;16:22;
17:5;19:19;21:4;23:4,　13:23;14:24;16:17;
18:3;19:2;20:23;21:9;　119:5
clarity (1)　121:8
Cont'd (1)　33:21,25;119:3
course (12)
12,19,20,24;24:6;　23:2,7;24:24;25:19;　28:19　3:1　29:3;33:6;55:22;
25:15;26:4,8,14,20,　26:16,18;29:6,13;　clear (4)　contract (3)　56:5,15;57:14;64:4,
24;27:4,7,14,15,17,　34:5;41:19;42:3;　43:17,21;48:17;　26:16;50:2;87:11　17;66:13;69:22;
23;28:8;29:9,16;30:8,　44:19,24;46:10;　73:5　contracts (3)　109:6;118:4
21;31:2,6,12;32:15,　48:14;55:8;56:13;　Clerk (1)　26:15,25;87:11　court (6)
21;33:2,6,12,24;34:2,　57:2;63:19,23;65:12,　123:24　control (4)　6:17;7:8,17,24;
8,16;35:4,8,10,15,18;　20;66:22;69:7;77:24;　client (1)　94:16,20,25;117:6　60:11;63:12
36:14,17,20,24;37:3,
7,11;38:2,8,21;39:2,　78:15;84:25;91:11;　93:19
colleague (1)　controlled (1)
52:23　covenants (4)
109:14,15,18,25
12,15;40:15,24;41:7,　94:2;108:25
capacity (2)　31:21　controls (2)　cover (1)
10,16,23;42:9,16,22;　43:24;46:24　collection (2)　52:25;54:10　101:15
43:4,8,19,22,24;44:5,　Capital (14)　19:21;20:6　conversation (5)　covered (1)
10,15;45:21;46:14;
47:3,9,10,14,19,23;　26:22;53:23;54:2,5,
11,15,19;66:4;67:22;　commemorate (1)
52:17　12:17;13:25;15:25;
16:9,12　11:10
create (1)

Min-U-Script® Ellen Grauer Court Reporting Co. LLC (2) books - create
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109:25　55:16;63:16;70:8;　121:15,16,17,22;　Ellen (2)　7:7

created (1)　74:16,19;75:13;　122:3,13,17;123:2,3,　7:15,18　even (1)
110:2　109:8;115:22;120:15;　13,17;124:4,10,14　else (11)　95:2
currently (11)　121:3;124:20;125:9　documents (61)　12:16,20;14:17;　evidencing (1)
14:15;34:11,12;　designated (1)　19:21;20:2,3,7,14,　16:23;24:4;31:11;　109:8

41:11;48:10,19;49:9,　11:16　17;21:10;23:16;26:2;　77:18,25;78:16;　exactly (4)
14,16;54:24;115:10　DI (2)　27:2;28:2,11;29:19;　87:21,25　24:20;67:9;85:19;
cut (1)　91:10;93:19　30:15,23;31:17;　E-MAIL (2)　116:14
27:20　different (2)　32:16,18,22;38:13;　3:9;36:24　EXAMINATION (2)
25:12;42:14　39:6,13,15,19,25;　employed (1)　8:6;119:7
D　direct (9)　41:21;42:16,22,22;　19:9　examined (1)
19:25;20:19;29:6;　43:23;44:17;45:3;　employees (3)　8:3
DAN (2)　44:19;58:15,16;80:7;　47:21;56:4,14;57:24;　36:18;96:16,19　except (1)
3:14;7:14　84:23;105:5　63:17;65:5;85:23;　employer (2)　6:9
Daniel (3)　director (23)　86:13;95:13;97:5;　42:25,25　executed (1)
7:4;125:7,17　32:25;33:13,14,16,　98:10,18,20,25;99:3,　encumbered (6)　117:22
date (7)　17,17,23,24;34:2,8,　5;102:2;109:7;　48:10;49:10,13;　Exhibit (47)
7:12;20:21,25;21:8;　10,11,13,14;37:15;　111:15;115:18;116:9,　50:6;102:5,16　9:15,19;10:4,9,11,
59:16;61:18;71:16　44:22;45:6;46:12;　20,25;119:19;120:10,　encumbrances (1)　15,16,24,24;17:9;
dated (9)　66:17;67:12;80:16;　13,16,22;121:2　102:14　20:6,13;44:20;55:3,7,
21:2;45:6;57:6;　95:2;99:23　dollar (4)　end (1)　20;56:18,22;58:2,8;
59:14;66:2;69:10;　directors (10)　30:2,3,8,13　64:18　65:15,18;69:2,5;
103:11;112:15,19　33:7,10;37:21,23;　done (1)　ended (3)　74:15;75:12;80:6;
dates (1)　38:9;39:21;95:15,17;　42:6　24:15;32:12;84:12　84:24;86:4;102:25;
96:25;112:20　doubt (1)　engaged (1)　103:5;112:14,18;
53:10
day (7)　Director's (3)　107:21　42:7　119:11,24;120:6,19,
21:3;33:17,21,24;　20:21,25;21:8　down (3)　England (1)　20,23,24,25;121:14;
34:10;37:19;125:21　disbursed (1)　58:22,23;105:6　13:15　122:9,20,25;123:19,
days (5)　87:15　during (5)　enough (1)　22
33:21,25;83:9;　disclose (1)　13:25;29:3;32:19;　101:14　exhibits (5)
85:18;86:14　108:15　33:6;74:19　enter (4)　56:2,3,3;119:10,11
debt (1)　discuss (3)　duties (1)　82:10,17,24;86:17　exist (1)
27:19　12:8,20;13:16　19:11　entered (10)　46:5
December (2)　discussed (10)　26:14,19,20,24;　existence (5)
7:13;16:4　13:17;14:6,8,10,12,　E　52:10;66:19;67:10,　30:22;32:20;33:7;
decision (3)　14,18;16:18,19;　16;87:10;103:12　94:7,14
51:23;52:6;54:14　102:22　earlier (6)　enters (1)　expected (2)
Declaration (1)　discussion (3)　43:12;53:20;64:2;　50:2　63:21;65:13
102:25　14:22;15:3,5　67:21;75:13;102:22　entirety (5)　experience (1)
decreased (1)　discussions (8)　early (1)　30:21;59:9;61:5;　64:22
115:3　11:25;67:14;70:3,　111:22　94:7,13　explained (1)
deemed (2)　12;72:13,20;73:3,13　ECF (1)　Entities (12)　58:18
83:7,13　dispute (1)　75:8　3:4;8:9,12;19:23;　extended (1)

defendant (1)　91:25　eCourt's (1)　20:18;93:8,18,25;　79:7
58:11　distinguishing (1)　123:6　103:8;107:23;108:2,　extent (1)
Defendant's (2)　31:7　effect (1)　18　80:23
58:2,8　docket (2)　6:16　entitled (3)　extra (1)
defined (3)　121:20;122:14　effective (7)　20:21,24;44:21　74:18
10:12;111:5;114:9　Document (74)　21:2;59:23;61:18;　entity (19)
defines (1)　10:9;20:23,24;　62:13;63:7;69:10;　8:16,23;9:4;21:5;　F
105:8　22:12,18,20;23:2,14;　85:12　26:21,22;27:8,12,13,
Department (1)　29:14,18;44:21,24,25;　EIN (2)　16;28:9;50:20;85:7;　facility (2)
85:4　45:13,15;55:8,9,19,　42:25;117:25　93:8,13,16,23;113:19,　54:4,6
depose (1)　21;56:17;57:2,12;　either (7)　22　fact (4)
78:10　58:12;59:14;60:15;　40:21,23;45:18;　ESQ (1)　59:17;67:15;72:4;
73:15;82:3;92:18;　3:7　117:6

64:3,8,12,14,17,18;
90:6　65:20,24;66:9,10,12;　111:10　established (1)　false (5)
69:20;84:25;85:2,10,　elaborate (1)　59:21　60:9,12,20;61:8,12
6:13;7:4,11;9:16,　25;86:5;103:9;　26:18　estate (11)　familiar (1)
20;10:3,5,10,11,18,　105:17;106:7;107:3,　elected (1)　24:9,13,16,19,20,　92:3
25;11:5,15;12:13;　6,12;109:8;114:22;　38:4　25;42:19;83:6,12,15;　family (4)
deposited (1)
deposition (33)
13:17;16:15;29:4;
40:21;41:2,7,11;　117:5,10,14,17,20,23;
118:3,4;120:4,5;　Elian (4)
33:14,16,23;37:19　84:16
et (1)　15:20;31:24;84:16;
114:6
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far (2)　78:18,25;82:18;　four (2)　67:12,15;68:19,25;　16:2,9,12;23:25;

21:9;29:17　97:15,20;106:20,25;　58:23;86:14　69:21;70:11,11,13,19,　28:22;32:11,11;
father (3)　107:8　front (2)　20,22;71:2,6,6;72:14,　34:14;36:11;37:5,13,
15:9;72:2;112:10　focus (2)　35:25;75:5　14;73:15,15;74:3,4;　25;38:4,10,12,17,24;
February (13)　19:19;60:7　full (1)　76:9;77:13,13,23,23;　39:23;40:20,23;41:8,
21:3;23:20;37:12,　follow (2)　116:11　78:14,14;80:11,12,13,　22;42:5;43:21;52:4;
24;45:6;66:2;85:12,　91:13,15　Fund (1)　14,16,25;81:3,7,8,10,　54:3;66:5;70:7;71:12,

24;86:7,9,10;87:5;　follows (1)　7:7　11,11,18,19,19;82:8,　20;72:5;78:24;79:10,
103:11　8:4　funded (2)　9,16,23;83:8,8,11,14,　15,18,25;83:25;84:6,
feel (1)　force (1)　88:15;100:14　18,18;84:9,10,18,19,　11,16,20;88:23;94:19,
20:3　6:16　funding (1)　19;85:5,7,10,17,18,　24;95:25;96:4;99:17,
fees (12)　form (113)　32:12　23;86:8,9,16,16,22;　24;100:6;103:20;
87:19;88:2;90:23;　6:10;10:7;11:11;　FURTHER (5)　87:4,10,14,24;88:4;　104:2,5,11,14;112:4,
91:4,19;92:9;93:4,7,　17:25;18:9;19:14;　6:8,12;109:18;　89:5,10,18,21;90:3,7,　8,11;114:12;115:9;
13,17,24;100:16　21:15;23:8;24:22;　118:24;124:16　11,11,15,15,22,23;　117:6,18,20,24
felt (2)　25:17,23;26:11;27:9;　future (1)　91:3,4,18,18,23;92:5,
84:7,20　30:9;31:3,13;34:3,18;　49:20　22;93:4,14,17,24;　H
few (3)　39:4,10,17;40:16;　94:5,6,7,10,12,13,13,
85:22;90:17;91:24　41:5,12,17,24;42:10;　G　16,20,25;95:8,11,14,　hand (1)
Fifth (1)　44:7;46:2,8,15;47:5,　18,22;96:3,10,15,18,　19:20
97:11　17;48:5,11;49:3,11,　gave (1)　21,24;97:7,14,18,22;　handed (8)
file (2)　22;50:7,15,21;51:14,　51:21　98:5,9,17,18,20,24,　9:24;55:6;56:22;
121:25;124:7　25;57:19;59:19;60:2,　generated (1)　24;99:3,8,15,18,21,　58:7;65:18;69:5;
filed (10)　13,21;61:10;62:2,17;　23,24,25;100:7,8,20;
39:20　74:18;112:17
58:10;60:6;61:19;　63:13;64:19;65:8;　Genever (416)　101:2,6,16,20;102:5,　happened (1)
63:11,17;120:10;　66:20;67:6,18;68:9,　3:4,13;8:12,16,20,　10,11,15;103:8;　115:15
121:18;122:2;123:5,　15,21;69:17,23;70:15,　21,24;9:4,7,7,17,20;　104:18,18;105:9,12,　happens (1)
23　24;71:8;72:17;73:22;　10:4,5,10,11;11:8,9,　14,16,24;106:4,8,8,　78:10
files (3)　74:6,12;76:4,25;　17,17;13:19,19;14:7,　15,17,23;107:16,23,　head (2)
22:21;64:18;116:11　77:15;78:2,20;79:2,　8,9,10,12,12,13,14,15,　25;108:8,8,14,17;　35:25;71:17
filing (3)　22;81:13;82:8,12,20;　16;15:15;16:20,21,22,　111:10;113:12,15,20;　held (8)
6:6;122:14;123:6　83:2,21;86:11,19;　25;17:4,8,14,16,18,　116:10,11;117:6,11,　7:11;14:15;47:19;
filings (1)　89:2,24;90:24;93:10;　22,24;18:7,13,20,25;　18,19,21,25;118:6,6,　51:9;98:20;101:2,16;
121:6　95:4;96:5;97:3,9;　19:6,9,13,19,23;　11,16;120:13,13;　110:3
Finance (1)　98:11,21;99:10;　20:18;21:4;22:6,16;　121:10,13;122:5,7,18,　helpful (1)
112:13　100:2;101:7;102:7,　23:6,11,19,24;24:6,　23;123:11,15;124:8,　12:5
find (2)　19;104:8;107:5;　10,16;25:15;26:4,6,8,　13　HEREBY (3)
36:2;123:2　108:23;111:12,18,25;　9,14,19,24;27:4,7,14,　Genever's (3)　6:3,6;125:7
fine (5)　113:5;115:5;116:12,　15,16;28:8,13;29:10,　22:21;85:14;108:11　herein (1)
8:18;9:5;28:25;　21;117:8;118:7,17;　16;30:7,7,21,22;31:2,　Gilmore (1)　6:5
29:5;43:16　120:18　6,12;32:15,19,21;　7:18　himself (3)
firm (10)　formal (1)　33:2,6,24;34:2,8,16;　given (1)　71:23;104:19;112:6
45:18;82:4;90:16,　53:16　35:4,7,14,15;36:17,　125:12　hired (1)
20;91:5;92:6,13,14,　formalities (1)　20,24;37:3,7,11;38:2,　glad (1)　27:22
16,21　13:18　8,21;39:2,12,15;　118:20　Ho (5)
firms (1)　formation (13)　40:15,24;41:7,10,16,　gladly (1)　21:18,20;45:7;
92:18　14:6;25:6,9,16;　23;42:8,16,22;43:4,6,　78:12　112:21;114:12
firm's (1)　28:14;41:21;42:12;　8,18,19,22,24;44:5,6,　Golden (9)　Hodgson (8)
92:9　43:13,21;81:20;　10,11,13,15,16,21;　88:16,18,19,21,25;　7:12;58:11;60:5,8,
first (13)　82:15;96:8;99:5　45:5,21;46:2,4,13,14,　89:15,17;90:8;100:14　17;90:16,23;92:15
13:4;22:10,11;　formed (27)　25;47:3,4,8,9,10,10,　goods (1)　hold (12)
33:14,17,23;75:21;　22:16;24:6,7;33:2;　14,14,15,19,20,23,24;　27:21　35:14;48:24;49:6;
80:10,18;103:16;　37:12,24;39:20;　48:3,4,9,15,19,20,23;　Grauer (2)　83:19;84:10;100:9,
104:6;105:7;109:21　44:16;82:10,16;83:9,　49:5,6,9,25;50:6,11,　7:15,19　15,18;106:8,24;
fit (2)　19;84:3,10,15;85:17,　13,19,23,25;51:3,4,9,　Great (1)　107:11,16

83:7,13　18,20,23;86:6,6,8,10,　9,12,13,16,18,21,24;　10:13　holding (6)
five (6)　17;87:5;88:9;90:4　52:2;53:22;54:5,14,　Group (3)　30:7;105:25;
10:17,21,25;11:5;　forming (3)　25;55:10,21;56:5,14,　88:19,21,25　106:18;107:7,21,25
58:23;85:18　22:4;23:24;82:23　14;57:12,16,22;59:5,　guess (1)　Holdings (13)
flip (2)　forms (1)　6,7,17,22;61:4,15,24;　43:20　8:13,21,24;9:8;
20:4;56:13　15:14　62:10,12;63:2,7,10,　Guo (71)　22:6,16;23:6;29:10;
floor (11)　foundation (1)　10,25;64:4,7,11,16;　11:18;12:23;13:6,　44:21;80:16;85:5;
76:24;77:4,21;　81:12　65:4;66:8,12,16;　12,13,24;15:20,23;　105:9,14
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Hong (6)　42:8　12:12;42:5;63:22;　10:16,24;80:22　little (1)

35:21;36:15;40:6;　interest (21)　66:7,8;89:21;113:9;　later (1)　48:14
88:19,22,25　73:20;74:10;75:15,　115:8;118:20　53:21　lived (2)
Hotel (13)　22,25;76:7,8,11,13,　known (3)　Law (4)　78:24;79:4
14:20;24:14;77:21;　17,20,23;77:6,11,20;　22:6;60:17;110:18　58:3,9;92:6,9　lives (2)
78:18;79:9,18;83:16;　78:6,17;83:19;84:11;　knows (1)　LAWALL (1)　31:22;97:19
86:18;87:12;90:9;　88:24;115:2　65:12　3:3　LLC (6)
91:24;98:7;100:24　interests (1)　Kong (6)　laws (1)　3:3;8:13,21;85:5;
hundred (1)　95:11　35:22;36:15;40:7;　22:4　94:10;105:15
51:7　into (17)　88:19,22,25　lawsuit (10)　LLP (1)
26:14,19,20,24;　Kwok (100)　67:17;68:8;90:12;　58:11
I　50:2;52:10;66:19;　11:18;12:7,8,17;　91:19;92:8,23;93:9,　loan (6)
67:11,16;82:10,17,24;　14:13;15:21;19:24;　14,18,25　51:17,20;54:4,6,7;
idea (4)　86:17;87:11;89:18;　21:18,20,22;22:13,16;　lawyer (2)　66:5
71:18,24;72:3;84:6　90:7;103:12　23:23;28:14,15,16,21,　45:18;78:10　located (1)
identification (11)　invest (5)　22;29:22;30:13,18,20,　lawyers (1)　13:13
9:18,21;20:8;42:25;　24:25;54:8;83:6,12;　25;31:15,19,24;　64:22　long (3)

55:5;56:21;58:6;　84:17
invested (1)　32:25;33:8,18;34:2,7;
37:17;38:6,16,20;　leading (2)
119:22;123:25　33:19;64:13;65:14
look (18)
65:17;69:4;103:3;
112:16　83:14　40:20,23;41:15;45:8,　lease (4)　10:14,16,23;19:25;
identified (1)　investment (1)　9;48:24;52:5;54:13;　68:14,19;77:3;　20:4;22:24;43:15;
119:14　40:12　59:2,4,10;66:18;67:2,　108:16　59:13;75:20;80:18,
identify (13)　investments (1)　3,11;70:14;71:12;　leases (1)　22;81:22;86:3;
20:23;23:2,7;29:13;　54:9　72:6,16;73:19,25;　76:9　103:14;105:22;
44:24;55:8;57:2;　involved (8)　75:15,24;76:6,19;　left (2)　109:24;110:17;114:7
65:20;69:7;77:25;　23:23;42:12,13;　77:11,19,19;78:19,23;　74:21;104:2　looked (2)
78:16;84:25;100:21　43:13,13,21;52:5;　84:12,17;88:24;　left-hand (1)　25:12;85:22
inaccurate (3)　54:13　91:17,23;92:5,23;　103:15　looking (7)
22:21;83:24;114:22　involves (1)　93:13,17,24;94:16,20,　Legal (13)　15:2,6,17;54:3;
Inc (1)　102:11　25;97:19;99:12,14,16,　7:15,19;63:17;　85:25;119:18,24
112:22　Island (1)　22;102:10;104:17,18;　68:22;90:23;91:4,18;　looks (2)
include (1)　23:4　108:14;109:22;111:7,　92:9;93:4,7,13,17,24　85:2;103:24
59:7　Islands (3)　22;112:5,21;113:3,16,　legally (1)　lost (1)
incorporated (3)　22:5;34:25;98:19　18;114:5,11,17;　114:10　115:12
23:20;29:9;85:11　115:12;119:15　lend (1)　lot (2)
Incorporation (2)　J　KWOK143 (2)　32:7　15:10;116:7
23:5,11　20:7,16　lent (3)　LP (1)
increased (1)　January (1)　KWOK145 (1)　31:22;32:6,9　7:7
115:2　112:3　22:25　Letter (4)　Luck (26)
incurred (1)　Jersey (1)　KWOK147 (1)　112:14,18;114:4,18　28:7;32:9,13;73:18;
27:19　3:6　29:8　liability (6)　102:10;103:7;104:15;
Index (1)　JPMorgan (2)　KWOK176 (1)　46:18,21;74:11;　108:3,7,16;109:5,9;
7:9　100:12;101:5　20:22　75:16,23;76:3　110:14;111:6,9,24;
indicated (2)　Judge (1)　KWOK193 (3)　lien (2)　112:4,7,9,23;114:10,
12:15;117:23　49:24　44:20,23;80:8　49:16;110:2　17,20,25;115:2,10
indicates (1)　jump (1)　KWOK194 (1)　Limited (12)
117:10　58:22　20:16　26:22;46:18,21;　M
indicating (1)　June (1)　Kwok's (26)　74:11;75:16,22;76:2;
49:25　69:10　12:24;13:7;15:24;　88:20,22,25;104:15;　MACOM (2)
individuals (2)　Justice (4)　21:14;22:21;24:2;　112:23　3:14;7:14
11:25;40:14　50:5;102:4,13,17　28:23;30:6;31:21;　line (1)　Madison (1)
information (1)　32:11;70:23;71:7;　21:19　3:5
118:15　K　73:13;74:9,15,19;　lines (1)　Magnanini (2)
Initially (4)　75:12,21;76:11;　58:23　93:2,7
24:7;33:20;71:22;　keep (1)　83:19,25;103:24;　listed (1)　Magnanini's (1)
83:25　36:7　104:3,6;114:25;　12:12　93:4
inquiry (1)　kept (1)　119:20　listen (1)　mail (1)
85:5　36:15　62:20　99:6
instruct (2)　kinds (1)　L　litigation (12)　mailing (8)
91:6;93:19　54:9　117:14;118:10;　34:24;35:7,8,16,16;
instruction (2)　knew (4)　landed (1)　119:21;120:11;121:7,　36:6,14;97:21
91:14,16　60:9;66:18;109:4,9　103:4　18,19,25;122:2;123:8,　maintain (1)
interaction (1)　knowledge (9)　last (3)　24;124:6　39:16
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maintained (14)

84:17,18;94:12;　18,25;113:5,14,21;　22,24;18:7,13,21,25;　oath (2)
39:25;40:7;56:15;　95:20,22　115:5,13,16,20;　19:6,9,13;24:11;26:6,　6:15;125:9
57:13;64:3,16;69:21;　members (1)　116:12,21;117:8;　9;43:7,19;44:6,11,13,　Object (107)
98:14,19,25;105:3;　94:11　118:7,17;119:2,8;　16;46:2,4,6,6,13;47:4,　10:7;11:11;17:25;
121:10;122:4,18　membership (1)　120:6;124:16　8,11,14,20,24;48:4,　18:9;19:14;21:15;
maintaining (1)　95:11　Mitchell's (2)　20;49:6,9;50:2,6,25;　23:8;24:22;25:17,23;
36:9　Memorandum (3)　90:20;91:4　51:9,10;56:14;63:11;　26:11;27:9;30:9;31:3,
maintains (3)　58:3,8;122:9　Monday (1)　68:19;71:6;72:14;　13;34:3,18;39:4,10,

16:20;35:22;66:13　mentioned (3)　16:3　73:15;74:4;76:10;　17;40:16;41:4,12,17,
maintenance (9)　20:14;37:5;50:18　money (24)　77:13,23;78:14;　24;42:10;44:7;46:8,
87:19;88:2;89:11;　mentioning (1)　27:7,15,19,21;28:4,　80:12,14;81:3,8,11,　15;47:5,17;48:5,11;
90:9;91:25;100:15,　28:20　9;30:18;31:22;32:6,8,　11,19,19;82:8,9,16,　49:3,11,22;50:7,15,
19,23;101:13　mentions (1)　9;42:7;87:15,24;　24;83:8,11,14,18;　21;51:14,25;57:19;
management (1)　45:15　88:11,16;89:14,18;　84:10,19;85:3,7,11,　59:19;60:2,13,21;
14:11　Michael (2)　90:6,8;100:15,18;　11,17;86:9,16,23;　61:10;62:17;63:13;
March (11)　81:23;82:2　101:4;109:4　87:4,10,14,24;88:4,　64:19;65:8;66:20;
57:6,18,22;59:23;　mid (1)　month (1)　17,18;89:5,10,16,18,　67:6;68:9,15,21;
61:18;62:13;63:8;　71:25　101:15　18,21;90:3,7,11,15,　69:17,23;70:15,24;
112:15,19;114:16;　middle (1)　monthly (1)　22;91:4,18,23;92:5;　71:8;72:17;73:22;
115:3　29:11　101:13　93:4;94:6,7,10,13,14,　74:6,12;76:4,25;
marked (11)　might (2)　more (5)　20;95:8,11,14,18;　77:15;78:2,20;79:2,
9:17,20,25;20:8;　43:6;97:25　19:3;20:5;26:16;　96:3,10,15,18,21,24;　22;81:13;82:12,20;

55:4;56:20;58:5;　Miles (6)　42:3;101:12　97:7,14,18,22;98:5,9,　83:2,21;86:11,19;
65:16;69:4;103:2;　11:18;21:22;28:16,　Morristown (1)　17,18;99:3,8,15,18,　89:2,24;90:24;93:10;
112:15　22;77:19;78:19　3:6　25;100:7,8,14,20;　95:4;96:5;97:3,9;
marking (2)　million (1)　mortgage (1)　101:2,6,16,20;102:5,　98:11,21;99:10;
20:9,11　101:12　110:2　10,15;104:18;105:16;　100:2;101:7;102:7,
marks (1)　minutes (2)　MOSS (34)　106:4,8,15,17,23;　19;104:8;107:5;
74:25　74:21;85:22　8:7;12:4,6;13:5;　107:16;108:7,8,14;　108:23;111:12,18,25;
math (1)　missing (2)　20:11;43:9;56:12;　113:12,15,20;116:10;　113:5;115:5;116:12,
30:11　116:25;117:4　62:8;65:23;73:7;　117:19,21;118:2,6;　21;117:8;118:7,17
matter (1)　mistaken (1)　74:17;75:4;78:9;　120:13;121:7,11;　Objection (12)
7:6　59:23　79:23;81:16;91:8;　122:5,19;123:11,23;　62:2,24;63:4;67:18;
may (26)　MITCHELL (141)　92:19;93:21;113:12,　124:8　78:8;113:10;115:13,
6:13;37:10,13,24;　3:3,7;10:7;11:11,　18,23;115:23;116:6,　next (2)　16,20;119:22;120:18;
38:5,15;53:7;55:12;　20;13:3;17:25;18:9;　17;118:22,24;119:6,　29:7;104:6　123:25
57:6;59:5,14;60:12,　19:14;20:9;21:15;　22;120:5,8,18,21;　nobody (1)　objections (1)
23;61:5,15,22,25;　23:8;24:22;25:17,23;　123:25;124:17

31:11　6:9
62:11;63:3;75:7,8,9;　26:11;27:9;30:9;31:3,　most (1)　Notary (2)　obtain (2)
100:6;110:20;120:9;　13;32:3;34:3,18;39:4,　101:4　8:2;125:25　46:5;54:3
121:24　10,17;40:10,16;41:4,　Motion (2)　note (2)　obtained (2)
Maybe (2)　12,17,24;42:10;43:3;　58:4,9　113:10;119:13　111:17;118:14
11:20;72:4　44:7;46:8,15;47:5,17;　much (3)　noted (1)　O'Connor (3)
mean (17)　48:5,11;49:3,11,22;　14:3,4;64:23　124:23　81:24;82:2,8
8:19;9:7;18:4;19:2,　50:7,15,21;51:14,25;　notice (15)　off (21)
7;34:20;42:3;49:13;　52:12;56:7;57:19;　N　9:16,19;10:3,4,10,　35:24;53:5,9,13,22;
61:12,14;73:2;79:4,6;　59:19;60:2,13,21,24;　11;12:13;50:4;56:18,　54:20;57:18;67:22;

92:16;99:12;104:10;　61:10;62:2,17,24;　name (4)　23;57:5;65:11;69:2,9;　68:3,5,7,12;70:4,6,9;
120:22　63:4,13;64:19;65:8,　7:14;13:4;92:13,21　113:8　71:16;74:22;115:24,
meaning (1)　21;66:20;67:6,18;　nature (1)　noticed (1)　25;119:3;124:20
40:12　68:9,15,21;69:17,23;　63:18　13:18　office (10)
meant (1)　70:15,24;71:8;72:17,　necessary (2)　notices (2)　16:21;34:21,21;
90:8　23;73:8,22;74:6,12;　46:4;80:23　11:15;63:16　35:2,3,5;36:4,7;40:2,8
meeting (5)　76:4,25;77:15;78:2,7,　need (2)　Number (19)　officer (3)
39:3,12;42:6;53:15;　11,20;79:2,22;81:13;　14:4;20:3　7:10;10:2;36:21,22;　6:14;37:16;38:20
97:2　82:12,20;83:2,21;　needed (1)　43:2;58:19;75:2;　officers (6)
meetings (2)　86:11,19;89:2,24;　27:19　96:22;105:7,23;　37:3,11;38:2,9,10,
15:8,10　90:24;91:6,10;92:11;　New (191)　106:14;107:20;　24
Melissa (1)　93:10,19;94:2;95:4;　3:6;7:8,9;8:16,20;　119:10,15,15;121:20;　offices (5)
7:18　96:5;97:3,9;98:11,21;　9:17;10:4,10;11:8,17;　122:14;123:2,20　7:12;34:17,20;
member (13)　99:10;100:2;101:7;　13:19;14:8,10,12,14,　96:11,13
31:24;44:10;80:11,
13;81:3,7,10,18;　102:7,19;104:8;
107:5;108:23;111:12,　16,20;15:8,16;16:21,
21;17:2,8,14,16,18,　O　official (4)
17:21;18:20;19:5;
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DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019

52:17　19;78:6,13,16;　64:22;78:12;93:8;　7:5;8:8;9:1,15,19,　55:16;70:8;109:7

once (2)　101:18;112:9;114:19;　99:7　24,25;10:1,2;11:1,22;　prepared (5)
82:9,16　115:2　percent (9)　12:1;13:1;14:1;15:1;　10:20;11:4;17:7,11;
one (27)　owning (2)　51:5,8;112:6,9;　16:1;17:1;18:1;19:1,　114:19
8:12;11:14;14:6,6;　26:9;72:2　114:11,12,17;115:10,　20;20:1,6,10,13;21:1;　preparing (1)
19:22,23;25:6,9;30:8;　owns (13)　12　22:1,24;23:1;24:1;　12:9
40:21;47:4,15;58:22;　26:6,6;31:11;40:6;　period (2)　25:1;26:1;27:1;28:1;　PRESENT (3)
83:4;86:21;92:18;　52:25;54:10;74:3,4;　33:20;38:18　29:1,7;30:1;31:1;　3:12;16:8,11
93:7;94:2;106:12;　77:11;87:6;88:18,21;　periods (1)　32:1;33:1;34:1;35:1;　president (16)
107:2,3,10,13,16,18;　100:10　79:7　36:1;37:1;38:1;39:1;　15:11,12;34:15;
119:10;120:9　permit (1)　40:1;41:1;42:1;43:1;　37:8,9,13,25;38:5,10,
only (5)　P　46:4　44:1,20;45:1;46:1;　12,16,18;39:23;43:23,
33:17;34:12,14;　person (17)　47:1;48:1;49:1;50:1;　25;117:11
56:10;73:2　Pacific (3)　13:2;27:8,11,13,16;　51:1;52:1;53:1;54:1;　previous (1)
oOo (1)　7:6;67:17;68:8　28:9;45:21;46:2;93:7,　55:1,3,6;56:1,18,23;　114:10
6:19　page (21)　12,16,23;95:20,24;　57:1;58:1,2,7;59:1;　previously (1)
Opportunity (1)　10:16,24;11:2;　100:7;117:21,24　60:1;61:1,8;62:1;　10:12
7:7　20:20,20;22:25;29:7;　personal (1)　63:1;64:1;65:1,15,19;　primary (3)
Opposition (2)　44:20;58:16,19;80:8;　46:23　66:1;67:1;68:1;69:1,　79:5,10,19
58:3,9　84:23;103:17,25;　personnel (2)　2,6;70:1;71:1;72:1;　printout (1)
order (8)　104:5;109:16,21;　14:10;17:8　73:1;74:1;75:1,5;　85:3
20:15;49:24;50:5;　110:17;114:7,8,10　persons (1)　76:1;77:1;78:1;79:1;　prior (8)
58:4,10;102:4,13,18　pages (1)　96:3　80:1,7;81:1;82:1;　61:6;89:22;92:23;
ordinary (8)　120:23　PHONE (5)　83:1;84:1;85:1;86:1;　110:5,10;111:8;
55:22;56:5,15;　paid (6)　3:8;13:2;36:20,22;　87:1;88:1;89:1;90:1;　120:3;124:3
57:13;64:4,17;66:13;　27:7,15,23;30:17;　96:21　91:1;92:1;93:1;94:1;　privilege (3)
69:21　92:9;93:7　Ping (1)　95:1;96:1;97:1;98:1;　12:3;91:7,11
organization (1)　par (1)　75:6　99:1;100:1;101:1;　privileged (1)
14:11　29:24　plaintiff (1)　102:1,25;103:1,4;　91:9
Ostrager (1)　paragraph (5)　7:5　104:1;105:1;106:1;　Probably (1)
49:25　22:10;58:17;75:20;　Plaintiff's (2)　107:1;108:1;109:1;　67:2
Ostrager's (4)　80:10,23　58:4,9　110:1;111:1;112:1,　proceeding (2)
50:5;102:4,13,18　paraphrasing (1)　plan (5)　14,17;113:1;114:1;　123:5,7
out (2)　116:16　25:5,8,11;82:15;　115:1;116:1,7;117:1;　process (4)
74:18;100:22　part (1)　110:21　118:1,25;119:1,4,9,　35:9,17;36:13;98:2
outside (6)　97:15　please (12)　11,18,24;120:1;　produced (4)
12:2;63:14;65:10;　particular (2)　7:24;10:14,15,23;　121:1;122:1;123:1;　19:22;22:20;
113:7;115:7;118:18　15:23;84:22　16:18;22:24;29:7,13;　124:1;125:7,17　117:14;119:20
over (1)　parties (8)　45:2;52:14;57:3;69:7　point (3)　promised (1)
86:23　6:5;90:12;104:23;　pledge (32)　50:10;54:20;67:22　49:19
own (8)　105:8;110:19,19,23,　26:20,23;51:17,19,　positive (1)　properties (2)
24:7;32:14,20;51:4,　25　23;52:9,17;53:4,9,12,　82:6　25:13;42:14
8;73:25;84:15;95:10　party (1)　21;54:4,14,17,19,24;　possess (2)　property (5)
owned (7)　59:10　55:10;57:17;59:22;　98:9;99:4　75:23;76:9;106:18;
32:10;52:21;59:10;　past (2)　61:17;62:12;63:6;　possible (1)　107:7;110:20
111:24;112:4;114:11,　16:3;102:17　64:25;66:3,9,19;　49:20　proprietary (3)
17　Paul (3)　67:10,16,22;70:4,9;　Potentially (1)　68:13,19;77:3
owner (27)　45:19;82:4,5　102:21　91:10　provide (1)
29:23;30:25;44:5;　PAX (1)　pledged (21)　Pre-Judgment (2)　50:4
72:3,5;84:5,7,12,19,　50:4　48:10,15,16;49:14;　58:5,10　provided (2)
21;108:2,3,6,7,17,22;　pay (11)　50:12,19,23,25;51:4,　preparation (30)　116:20;119:9
109:10,18;110:5,11,　27:19;28:5;30:13;　13;53:22,25;57:23;　12:18,21;16:14;　provides (1)
14,18,20;111:5,8;　89:10;90:8;93:13,16,　59:8,17;61:4,16,23,　21:11;23:17;26:3;　29:22
112:6;115:10　23;100:15,19,23　25;62:11;63:3　27:3;28:3,11;29:20;　providing (2)
owners (1)　paying (4)　pledges (7)　30:24;32:17,23;　117:18;118:5
31:8　90:22;91:3,18;93:3　67:4;68:18;72:21;　38:14;39:14;45:4;　Public (3)
ownership (34)　payments (2)　73:3,9,14;110:9　47:22;48:2,8;52:20;　8:3;85:4;125:25
14:9;32:18;46:17,　88:12;100:22　pledging (3)　53:19;57:10,25;　publicly (4)
21;59:7;70:13,22;　pays (1)　51:7,8;111:9　95:13;97:6;109:13;　60:5,16;65:2,7
71:6,11,13;72:13;　91:8　pm (7)　111:20;115:21;　purchase (19)
73:12,20;74:3,10;　pending (1)　9:23;74:23;75:3;　120:15;121:9　14:19;15:15;24:8;
75:15,21,25;76:6,7,　67:17　116:2,5;124:21,23　prepare (6)　25:3,4,7,9;31:23;32:6,
11,13,16,20,23;77:5,　people (4)　Podhaskie (157)　11:7;13:25;16:6;　12;42:13,18,20;

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43:14;71:23;82:10,　68:2,6;114:21;　11:24;67:15;112:20　15:18　40:2;78:4,12

17;84:2;96:9　116:24;117:3　register (2)　Resolution (9)　Roscalitar (30)
purchased (1)　recall (27)　39:21;99:6　20:22,25;21:9;　26:21;50:20,24;
24:16　14:21;18:15;43:23,　registered (15)　39:22;52:16;53:16;　51:5,13,24;52:18,21;
purchasing (1)　25;67:3,9;71:16;　27:22;28:5;33:12;　80:19;81:22,23　53:2,5,12,21;55:11;
42:15　75:14,18;85:19;　35:8,17;36:13,23;　resolutions (1)　57:17,23;59:9,18,22;
purpose (21)　117:22;118:13;121:6,　56:19,24;57:5;65:5;　96:8　61:5,16,25;62:11,13;
14:7;25:15,16;　22;122:3,6,8,17;　69:3,9;97:25;98:5　Resolved (1)　63:3,6;64:25;73:10;
41:10;82:23;86:22;　123:12,14,16,18;　Registration (4)　80:19　102:22;110:10;

100:14,17;105:19,23,　124:3,9,11,13,15　55:4,18;65:16,25　respect (4)　111:10
25;106:8,14,17,18,23,　receive (2)　related (1)　20:17;77:21;78:18;　Russ (8)
24;107:4,7,12,15　64:11,14　77:5　95:8　7:12;58:11;60:5,8,
purposes (14)　received (3)　relates (3)　respective (1)　17;90:16,23;92:15
25:21;28:19;83:4,5,　28:8;64:2,8　12:17;21:4;76:23　6:5
12;86:21,25;106:12;　receives (2)　relating (8)　respectively (1)　S
107:2,4,10,13,17,19　88:16;99:6　43:18;65:6;81:23;　114:13
Pursuant (2)　Recess (2)　82:18;91:25;103:7;　responsibility (1)　same (18)
56:20,25　74:24;116:3　115:18;118:15　19:12　6:6,16;16:22;55:25;
put (3)　recollection (3)　relation (1)　restructured (1)　62:4;83:10;85:20;
55:12;89:18;118:15　13:24;85:21;120:4　119:20　70:22　92:6,16,17;93:12,16,

record (23)　relationship (1)　retained (2)　23;103:25;115:3,13,
Q　7:22;9:23;11:21;　14:13　55:22;56:4　16,20
18:11;28:20;43:17;　Release (7)　review (28)　Sanft (3)
Qiang (64)　56:8;72:24;73:4;　56:19,24;57:5;60:4,　10:9;20:24;22:12;　45:15;80:19;82:7
11:18;12:23,25;　74:22;75:3;78:11;　16;69:3,9　44:25;53:10;55:9,19;　S-A-N-F-T (1)
13:4,12,13,24;15:23;　80:15;92:12;113:11;　released (3)　56:17;60:15;63:11;　45:16
16:2,9,12;23:25;　115:24;116:2,5;　61:17;62:13;63:7　65:24;66:10;85:2;　SARNOFF (2)
28:22;32:11,11;　119:3,5;124:21;　remember (5)　86:5;103:9;109:7;　86:4;124:18
34:14;36:11;37:5,13,　125:11,12　13:20;14:17,24;　116:9;117:2;118:5;　Satisfaction (10)
25;38:4,10,12,17,24;　records (17)　15:4;117:23　120:12;121:16;　56:19,24;57:5,9;
39:23;40:20,23;41:8,　11:16;35:22,25;　removed (1)　122:13;123:3,11,15;　64:3,25;69:3,9,11,16
22;42:5;43:21;52:4;　36:8,10,15;40:7;　59:22　124:6,8,12　satisfied (1)

54:3;70:7;71:12,20;　61:19;120:17;121:8,　replaced (1)　reviewed (31)　67:23
72:5;78:24;79:15,25;　10;122:4,18;123:12,　33:18　11:14,16;21:11;　saw (2)
83:25;84:7,16,21;　16;124:9,13　reporter (2)　23:17;28:11;29:20;　121:5,6
88:23;94:19,24;　refer (4)　7:17,24　30:15,23;31:17;　saying (2)
95:25;96:4;99:17,24;　8:15;9:3;28:21;　representation (1)　32:17,22;33:5;38:13;　107:11;116:8
100:6;103:20;104:14;　61:6　61:3　39:6,14;44:17;45:3;　scope (5)
112:4,8,12;114:12;　referenced (1)　representative (9)　47:21,25;48:7;52:19;　63:15;65:11;113:8;
115:9;117:6,18,20,24　96:8　8:9;9:16;10:3;　53:18;57:10,24;　115:7;118:19
Qiang's (7)　references (1)　12:10,19;14:2;46:24;　95:13;97:5;102:3;　sealing (1)
66:5;79:10,18;　107:8　77:24;78:15　116:18;121:2,9,25　6:5
84:11;104:2,5,11　referencing (1)　representatives (1)　reviewing (3)　second (1)
117:5　42:17　42:14;43:20;120:15　114:7
R　referred (2)　represented (5)　right (39)　secretarial (2)
105:16;120:14　90:16,19;92:6,22;　8:13;17:8,9;22:14;　27:23;28:6
rather (1)　referring (16)　104:23　29:4;30:8;53:8;61:16;　secretary (1)

119:11　8:20;15:19;18:21;　representing (3)　62:16;64:5;67:5,12;　33:11
read (2)　27:12;28:16,21,22,23;　113:2;114:2,5　70:4;77:9,14;83:9;　Section (7)
22:8;125:8　42:23;60:25;76:15;　request (9)　85:8,15;86:10;90:17;　23:5;56:20,25;
reading (1)　85:7;103:7;105:12,　42:24;71:4,10,15,　97:2;104:3,15,19;　105:6;109:15,17;
22:9　15;123:8　19,21;72:7,9;73:11　105:12,17,20;106:5,9,　110:18
reads (1)　refers (3)　require (1)　15,21,25;107:4,12,17,　security (2)
75:21　80:11,25;85:10　110:10　18,23;108:9;110:12　51:20;54:6
real (13)　reflected (10)　reserved (1)　right-hand (1)　seeing (12)
24:9,13,16,18,20,　25:25;30:16;32:18,　6:10　103:21　43:23;72:5;117:23;
25;42:19;75:23;76:9;　24;39:7,13;61:22;　resided (1)　role (20)　120:4;121:22;122:3,
83:6,12,15;84:15　95:12;97:4;102:2　79:6　16:25;17:4,14,16,　17;123:12,16;124:4,9,
really (3)　reflects (3)　residence (12)　18,21,23;18:5,7,12,　13
42:2;56:10;101:11　18:11;22:18;114:18　14:19;15:7,15;26:7;　20,25;19:2,5,8;37:7;　sell (1)
reason (11)　refresh (1)　50:3;51:22;72:2;79:5,　38:21;95:7;113:25;　50:3
85:21　10,19;102:12;106:25　118:5　sense (1)
9:11;21:24;22:19;
23:13;45:11;64:10;　regarding (3)　residences (1)　room (3)　101:10
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DANIEL PODHASKIE December 11, 2019

sentence (4)
22:11;58:25;75:21;　33:20
showing (1)

80:22　85:23
sequential (1)　shown (1)
20:15　56:2
service (4)　shows (1)
35:9,17;36:13;98:2　85:6
services (3)　side (2)
27:21,23;28:6　103:15,21
set (2)　signature (9)
116:11;120:23　21:13,14,19,25;
several (5)　45:7;103:15,22;
25:9,12;43:23;　104:2,6
78:12;106:19　signatures (1)
shall (1)　104:11
6:10　signed (12)
share (4)　6:14,16;15:14;
29:16;30:7;39:20;　42:15,21,24;43:24;
78:13　104:14,17;117:25;
shareholder (12)　118:9;125:20
28:14;30:21;31:5,　signing (1)
18;59:4;66:18;67:11;
94:6;95:3;99:23;　41:20
sit (1)
112:22;113:4　44:2
shareholders (3)　sitting (2)
31:8;39:22;94:11　77:25;78:4
shares (30)　situated (2)
29:23,23;30:14,18;　106:19;107:8
32:15,20;48:21,22,25;　six (2)
50:24,25;51:3,4,5,8,　58:23;62:5
13,17,19,24;53:22,25;　sleep (1)
54:5,14;76:13;77:12,　80:4
20;78:17;100:10;　slept (1)
101:24;111:10　79:25
Sherry (7)　slower (1)
42:13;43:14;71:24;　64:23
78:13;92:24;96:9;　SN74 (1)
101:14　114:8
Sherry-Netherland (83)　sold (2)
14:20;15:9,13;　48:3;101:20
24:14;25:14;26:7;　sole (31)
31:23;32:7,13;42:18;　28:14;30:20,25;
50:3;68:20;70:21;　31:5;32:25;44:5,10;
71:5,7,11,14,23;　45:5;46:12;59:4;
72:10,15;73:12,16,20;　66:17,18;67:11,12;
74:2;76:2,8,12,14,17,　80:11,13,16;81:3,7,
20;77:8,12,20;78:17,　10,18;84:17,18;94:5,
25;79:9,18;80:2;　12;95:2,3,20,22;
82:11,18,25;83:16,20;　99:22,23
84:3,6,11,13,20;
86:18;87:6,12,18,23,　someone (1)
71:24
25;88:12;89:11;90:9;　somewhere (2)
91:24;93:14;97:13,　15:7;53:11
20;98:7,15,25;100:11,　son (13)
16,24;101:18,25;　12:24;13:7;15:21,
102:12;106:20;107:9;　24;24:2;28:23;32:11;
108:15,20;109:3,9;　70:23;71:7,12;73:13;
111:23;112:20,22;　84:2;99:13
113:4;114:3;118:12,　Sorry (10)
16　13:5;26:19;57:6;
Sherry-Netherland's (1)　62:6;65:21;72:23;
68:13　74:17;103:16;109:17;

 24;24:2;28:23;32:11; 70:23;71:7,12;73:13; 74:17;103:16;109:17; sound (1) 92:3 sounds (1) 53:10 speak (2) 12:25;13:7 special (5) 105:19,24;106:18, 24;107:7 specific (3) 14:25;19:3;42:4 specifically (3) 41:6;72:11;113:16 specify (1) 26:16 speculate (3) 32:4;40:11;52:14 speculating (4) 31:25;40:9;52:14; 79:13 speculation (1) 108:24 spent (4) 27:21;42:7;87:14, 24 spoke (7) 11:18,18,19;13:14; 15:10;16:5;70:8 Spring (9) 88:16,18,19,21,25; 89:15,17;90:8;100:14 SPV (10) 105:17,19,25; 106:4,15;107:6,12,22; 110:3,4 ss (1) 125:4 stamp (4) 75:8;121:14; 122:25;123:19 Stamped (4) 20:7,22;29:8;44:23 stamps (4) 19:24;119:15,25; 122:11 stands (1) 105:19 start (3) 10:15;12:7;119:2 starts (2) 58:17,25 State (6) 7:8;46:6;85:3,4; 125:3,25 statement (9) 59:24;60:9,11,18, 20,25;61:9,13;75:24 statements (1) 118:11 States (2) 24:19;25:2 stayed (1) 115:3

Stevenson (6) 112:15,18;113:2, 24,25;114:8 still (7) 34:10,11,12;38:12; 61:23;67:11;109:16 STIPULATED (3) 6:3,8,12 STIPULATIONS (1) 6:1 stock (1) 99:6 Stone (3) 93:2,3,6 stop (1) 38:17 stopped (1) 34:7 strike (11) 35:14;37:22;38:7; 44:14;50:12;68:6; 78:23;79:16,24; 97:14;101:3 structure (2) 14:9,11 submitted (1) 75:7 subscribed (1) 125:20 subtracted (2) 25:22;87:2 sued (1) 91:23 suggesting (1) 111:16 Support (2) 7:15,19 Supreme (1) 7:8 Sure (14) 12:4;15:12;19:23; 40:2;43:17;58:20; 66:17;72:24;73:6; 82:5;92:15;98:16; 113:18;119:6 swear (1) 7:24 sworn (3) 6:14;8:2;75:8 system (2) 85:5;123:6 T talk (1) 114:19 talked (2) 72:21;73:10 talking (6) 9:7;38:9;48:18,18; 69:12;120:7 tape (2) 74:21;75:2 telephone (1) 13:9

terms (2) 29:3;63:15 terrace (1) 92:2 Territory (1) 23:3 testified (11) 8:3;18:6;50:10; 53:20;64:2;66:4;67:3, 9,21;75:17;76:16 testify (6) 10:20;11:4,8;17:7, 11;67:25 testimony (15) 9:12;12:9;14:2; 16:6;18:8,15;24:17; 57:17;65:4;66:16; 67:8;75:18;84:9; 125:8,11 third (5) 59:9;81:22;110:19, 23,24 though (1) 95:2 thought (2) 24:18;42:15 three (5) 58:23;74:21;104:7, 10,11 times (1) 62:5 title (2) 15:12;23:3 today (47) 7:17,20;8:16;9:13; 10:21;11:5;12:9,19; 21:11;23:17;26:3; 27:3;28:3,12;29:20; 30:24;31:18;32:17, 23;33:5;38:14,16; 45:4;47:22;48:2,8; 52:20;53:19;56:2; 57:11,25;74:18; 75:13;77:25;78:15; 95:13;102:3;109:13; 111:21;114:20;116:8; 119:10;120:3,14; 121:9,23;124:3 today's (6) 7:12;39:14;97:5; 115:21;121:3;124:20 together (1) 20:11 told (5) 13:20,24;15:6;19:4; 85:22 took (2) 64:11,13 top (7) 29:8;35:24;59:13; 71:16;105:8;123:4,22

short (1)

111:4
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topic (1)
17:9　24:15;25:13;31:22;
32:5;51:21　W　Y　Zhang (11)
31:20;32:5,7,14,20;

topics (10)　under (4)　51:16,18;52:21,23;
10:18,21,25;11:5,9,　22:4;29:9;110:11;　waived (1)　Yan (1)　95:7,10
15;12:12,19;13:17;
14:6　125:9
underneath (1)　6:7　75:6　0
total (1)　21:18　Wan (6)
7:7;21:18,20;45:7;　year (3)
64:11;65:5;89:7
30:6　undersigned (2)　112:21;114:12　years (1)　001 (3)
transaction (1)　22:3,13　WANG (8)　91:24　29:24;30:2,3
49:21　Understood (2)　3:13;11:19;13:11;　yes-or-no (1)　07960 (1)
transcript (2)
125:8,10　12:4;73:2
United (2)　16:6;17:13;18:22;　93:21　3:6
transfer (5)　24:19;25:2　19:4;118:5　York (172)　1
71:5,11,13;73:11;　units (1)　Wang's (5)
16:25;17:4;18:12;　7:9,9;8:16,20;9:17;
10:4,10;11:8,17;
115:19　106:19　75:6,6　13:19;14:8,10,12,14,　1 (9)
transferred (1)　unless (1)　way (6)　16,20;15:8,16;16:21,　9:15,25;10:2,9,15;
112:8　110:4　29:2;50:6;63:25;　21;17:2,8,14,16,18,　17:9;56:3;109:16;
transferring (2)
70:13;72:13　unofficial (3)
17:23;18:4,20　101:3;102:6;112:11　22,24;18:8,13,21,25;　110:17
1,000 (1)
transfers (1)　unrelated (1)　weeks (1)　19:6,10,13;24:11;　29:23
73:14　59:9　90:17
Wei (11)　26:6,10;43:7,19;44:6,
11,14,16;46:2,5,6,6,　10 (2)
trial (1)　up (6)　31:20;32:5,7,14,20;　13;47:4,8,11,15,20,　112:14,18
6:11　24:15;30:11;32:12;　51:16,18;52:21,23;　24;48:4,20;49:7,9;　100 (2)
true (18)　84:12;90:16;123:4　95:7,10　50:2,6;51:2,9,10;　51:5;115:10
21:7,12;29:18;　USA (1)　Weiss (3)　56:15;63:11;71:6;　11 (1)
55:17,25;57:7;59:24;
60:12,20;61:14;66:8;　59:7
US-based (2)　45:19;82:4,5　72:14;73:15;74:4;　7:13
12 (3)
69:15;73:19;74:9;　24:8,10　welcome (1)　76:10;77:13;80:12,　45:6;69:10;85:24
75:24;112:5;125:10,　used (1)　20:5
weren't (1)　14;81:4,8,11;82:8,9,
16,24;83:8,11,14,18;　12th (1)
12　100:19　116:20　84:10,19;85:3,8,11,　21:2
trust (7)　using (1)　What's (2)　11,17;86:9,16,23;　13 (3)
73:17;102:9,17;　29:3　83:24;101:4　87:4,10,14,24;88:4,　23:20;86:7,9
103:2,6,10;108:2
trustee (10)　V　who's (2)　17,18;89:5,10,16,18,　14 (1)
66:2
107:21,25;109:15,　36:9;95:24　22;90:3,11,15,22;　145 (1)
17,22,24;110:19,22,　value (2)　Whose (6)
48:22;71:18;　91:23;92:5;93:4;94:6,
10,13,21;95:8,11,14,　86:3
22;111:7　29:24;30:6　100:14;103:15,19,22　18;96:3,10,15,18,21,　15 (2)
truthful (1)　various (4)　Williams (2)　24;97:7,22;98:5,9;　58:20;75:8
9:12　20:2,16;42:15,21　45:19;82:4　99:3,9,15,18,25;　16 (9)
try (6)
13:6;60:7,19;62:20;　vehicle (5)　within (6)　100:7,8,14,20;101:2,　59:14;60:12,23;
73:7;79:23　105:20,25;106:18,
24;107:7　6:13;20:2;83:9;　6,16,20;102:5,10;　61:15,25;62:11;63:3;
75:7,9
trying (1)　versus (1)　120:16;121:8;122:4
witness (6)　104:18;105:16;106:4,
9,15,17,23;107:16;　165 (2)
62:22　7:7　7:25;8:2;32:3;　108:8,8,14;113:12,15,　56:20,25
turn (2)　via (1)　40:11;43:5;52:13　20;116:11;117:19,22;　17 (10)
74:3,4　51:17　Wong (5)　118:2,6;120:13;　57:6,18,22;59:23;
two (10)　vice (1)　112:15,19;113:2,　121:7,11;122:5,19;　61:18;62:13;63:8;
8:9;13:16;16:17;
20:17;26:23;37:19;　15:11
Videographer (8)　25;114:8　123:24;124:9　85:12;86:10;103:11
176 (1)
58:22;75:2;93:8;　3:14;7:3;9:22;　Wong's (1)　York's (18)　20:20
107:23　74:20,25;115:25;　113:25
word (1)　68:19;77:24;78:15;
81:11,19,19;89:19;　178 (1)
type (1)　116:4;124:19　19:7　90:7;91:4,18;94:7,14;　84:23
42:7　videotaped (1)　words (2)　97:14,18;98:17,18;　18th (11)
typewritten (1)　7:4　21:19;93:12　102:16;123:11　76:24;77:4,21;
21:20
typically (1)　violation (1)
68:18　work (1)　young (2)　78:18,25;82:18;
97:15,19;106:20,25;
35:2　Virgin (4)　55:15　84:8,21　107:8
22:5;23:4;34:25;　writes (1)
114:8　YVETTE (7)
3:13;11:19;13:11;　194 (2)
U　98:19　written (10)　16:6;18:22;75:6;　20:8;44:23
virtue (2)　7:21;44:22;45:5,22;　118:5
UBS (2)　51:7;59:6　46:11;50:4;110:5,10;　2
40:8,12　visited (1)　111:8,16　Z
ultimately (5)　79:21　2 (37)
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9:19;10:2,4,11,24;　120:6,19,20,23,24,25

26:21;50:20,24;51:5,　4:25 (1)
13,24;52:18,21;53:2,　74:23
5,12;55:11;56:3;　4:38 (1)
57:17,23;59:9,18,22;　75:3
61:5,16,25;62:11,13;
63:3,6;73:10;75:20;　5
102:22;105:7,23;
110:10;111:11　5 (3)

2:59 (1)　56:18,22;121:14
9:23　5:27 (1)
2004 (2)　116:2
23:5;29:10　5:36 (1)
2015 (32)　116:5
21:3;23:21;37:10,　5:46 (2)

12,14,24,25;38:5,15;　124:21,23
45:6;53:8;55:12;59:5;　50 (6)
61:5;79:14,15,17,21;　112:6,9;114:11,12,
80:2;85:12;86:7,9,10;　17;115:12
87:5;100:6;103:11;　543 (2)
111:22;112:3,15,19;　103:17;110:18
114:17;115:4　544 (1)

2017 (9)　103:25
57:6,18,22;59:23;　545 (1)
61:18;62:14;63:8;　104:5
64:18;65:2　55 (1)
2018 (17)　3:5
59:14;60:12,23;
61:15,22,25;62:11;　6
63:3;66:2;69:10;75:7;

88:10;89:5,8,12,23;　6 (5)
90:4　58:2,8;110:18;
2019 (1)　122:9,20
7:13　60,000 (1)
20-year-old (1)　101:14
71:25　652077/2017 (1)

21 (1)　7:10
55:12
24 (2)　7
74:15;75:12
7 (5)
3　23:5;65:15,18,22;

122:25
3 (17)　781 (1)
17:9;20:6,10,12,13;　97:11
44:20;56:3,11,13;
80:6;84:24;86:4;　8
106:14;109:15,17;
119:11,11　8 (4)

3.4 (1)　69:2,5;123:19,22
109:24
30 (1)　9
58:20
30b6 (4)　9 (6)
11:24;65:11;113:8;　16:4;58:16,19,20;
118:19
102:25;103:5
914-760-8963 (1)
4　3:8

4 (17)
55:3,7,20;56:3,9;
107:20;112:15,19;
114:16;115:3;119:24;