# Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok): community discussion 008 Community discussion, batch 008 (Jun 6, 2025 – Jun 13, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions focused on legal developments in the Guo case, creditor claim strategies, and internal community disputes. Participants debated prosecution evidence disclosure flaws, Brady obligations, and bankruptcy trustee Luc's review of G-series claims, alongside court filings 679 and 683 concerning third-party motions. Disagreements centered on whether to file claims through Gail, execute affidavits, or provide evidence directly to defense counsel, with members disputing whether claiming funds improperly conceded victim status. Firsthand participant accounts and investment experiences, preserved with dates, sources and reply context. English reading guide and paraphrases; Chinese source messages remain authoritative. ## Discussions on Retaining Evidence and Read Receipts via Email to Representatives or Lawyers Participants debate strategies for preserving legal evidence and correspondence receipts when contacting attorneys or representatives. - ntp***, Jun 6, 2025: ntp*** contends that ignored correspondence itself serves as evidence, though cautions that messages must avoid giving lawyers grounds to find fault. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43cf159d797136cc30b0) - rui***, Jun 6, 2025: rui*** recounts that the recipients have not yet responded to the outreach. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf39aa4a7b5229059694b) ## Examining Brady Obligations, Evidence Disclosure, and Procedural Fairness Participants discuss the significance of Brady material and potential prosecutorial disclosure violations in the legal proceedings. - ntp***, Jun 6, 2025: ntp*** asks what concrete evidence exists regarding Brady obligations to add it to an outline. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f07b2359bc988f3db85) - him***, Jun 6, 2025: him*** contends that Brady obligations are critical and that procedural injustice may ultimately decide the outcome. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb070bd2b41f9d592f520) ## Dispute over Prosecution Victim Classifications and Case Reversal Efforts Participants debate the legal implications of the prosecution designating investors as victims and the necessity of overturning the verdict. - him***, Jun 6, 2025: him*** argues that unless the conviction is overturned, the prosecution will treat all investors as victims regardless of whether they agree. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40baeda34ece0f3842d2) - ntp***, Jun 6, 2025: ntp*** asserts that admitting to being a victim contributes to convicting Brother Seven. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q923d38a96e50e249481a) ## Dispute over New Claim Affidavits and Their Potential Impact on Guo Participants discuss requirements for signing new claim affidavits and whether submitting claims harms Guo's legal defense. - ntp***, Jun 6, 2025: ntp*** inquires whether an affidavit must be completed first and whether it pertains to Himalaya Exchange claims. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7bba5787d631e72e1cb) - him***, Jun 6, 2025: him*** asks for clarification regarding what affidavit is being referenced. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d6d5a01ac705ac59943) ## Controversy over Gail's Claim Representation and Unanswered Inquiries Participants examine the legitimacy of Gail acting as a claims representative and the lack of response to member communications. - rui***, Jun 6, 2025: rui*** argues that individuals representing themselves to claim funds is unobjectionable. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3da8f8efd24cf4cea514) - rui***, Jun 6, 2025: rui*** contends that deceiving thousands of clients into claiming funds without their informed consent is unacceptable. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c2f593d59c1d955dbdc) ## Debate on Providing Evidence Directly to Guo's New Defense Counsel Participants debate whether to submit claim fraud evidence directly to Guo's new legal team rather than asking for prior permission. - ntp***, Jun 7, 2025: ntp*** suggests there is merit in Little Sheep's recommendation to consult Brother Seven's lawyers before submitting evidence. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b61e0523dcd2e23fc40) - chu***, Jun 7, 2025: chu*** contends that claimants should directly email defense counsel evidence of being defrauded by the Alliance Farms and Gail into signing forms rather than asking permission first. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a12636432dad7d0221b) ## Analysis of Court Suspension of Third-Party Motions and Docket Review Participants review court filings and assess reasons behind the delay or criticism of third-party motions. - him***, Jun 7, 2025: him*** asks how the individual criticized chunk's motion. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08b1d56185f46395ced8) - ntp***, Jun 7, 2025: ntp*** asserts that the current approach is simply a stalling tactic. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb36330dac44da1325259) ## Discussion on Court Action Strategies, Overturn Proposals, and Internal Divisions Participants discuss direct intervention in legal proceedings to oppose claims and filings by Gail and the Digital Bank. - chu***, Jun 8, 2025: chu*** argues that participants should confront Gail directly in court rather than relying on external rhetoric while Guo is being harmed. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe710e5140c284ba01235) - chu***, Jun 8, 2025: chu*** describes taking concrete legal action via filing 679 against Digital Bank registrations and notes that filing 683 followed from attorney Gavenman representing over 110 petitions. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf36ab99a71b99bd2f1ce) ## Trustee Luc's Review and Reduction of G-Series Bankruptcy Claims Participants discuss bankruptcy trustee Luc Despins's review of G-series claims and the criteria for reducing filed amounts. - him***, Jun 13, 2025: him*** asks whether Luc plans to eliminate all G-series claims. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11feb60a5234f46cd69c) - chu***, Jun 13, 2025: chu*** argues that the trustee is not eliminating the G-series claims entirely, but is instead removing fabricated amounts. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd745364c947a42f1a7f9) ## Dispute over Little Sheep's Livestreamed Petitions and Defense Submissions Participants discuss disagreements concerning Little Sheep's promotion of congressional petitions and submissions to new defense counsel. - sar***, Jun 10, 2025: sar*** recounts that Little Sheep is livestreaming and strongly pushing the congressional petition as the only proper action with no negative effects for Guo. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c70aee317960b63ded8) - rui***, Jun 10, 2025: rui*** shares an external link regarding the discussion. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cd5b204fd7daf40d32a)