# Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok): community discussion 035 Community discussion, batch 035 (Sep 9, 2025 – Sep 10, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on recent court docket developments and key motions, specifically ECF Nos. 738, 739, and 742. Participants debated earlier letters sent to the judge, questioning whether they aimed to facilitate counsel replacement or undermine pro se actions. Group members disputed legal standing and statutory applicability under Section 853(n) and the CVRA in Motion 738, while confronting allegations of acting as proxies in anonymous filings 739 and 742 and resisting imposed victim status. Firsthand participant accounts and investment experiences, preserved with dates, sources and reply context. English reading guide and paraphrases; Chinese source messages remain authoritative. ## Debating the Impact and Legal Characterization of Writing Letters to the Judge Participants argue over the underlying motives and implications of sending letters to the judge. - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** contends that the action was merely superficial testing. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1196162d9e6fd826922b) - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** suggests from a strategic perspective that sending the letters was intended to discredit pro se actions. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0d0e31aa84c7085f830) - ntp***, Sep 9, 2025: ntp*** shares an external link to review a letter sent to the court. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b10be570c8cc4f0d718) ## Examining the Content and Targets of Filed Motion 738 Participants observe the targets and citations contained in the newly uploaded Motion 738. - him***, Sep 9, 2025: him*** notes that Motion 738 once again targets Gail and Luke. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9227426e21c494781eed) - him***, Sep 9, 2025: him*** observes that the motion appears to cite Ryan. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8774c160f467325cdae0) ## Assessing the Impact of Motion 738 and Subsequent Reactions Participants debate the practical effectiveness and current procedural standing of Motion 738. - jun***, Sep 9, 2025: jun*** expresses appreciation to motion filers and contends that the filings have pressured opposing factions. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeba6e863d3b63e2076cf) - ntp***, Sep 9, 2025: ntp*** cautions that the proceedings have just begun and the court has not yet confirmed the filing. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3fcdde0f270effa0a6a) ## Debating Standing and Court Inquiries Regarding Motion 738 Participants discuss Judge Torres's reaction and specific references identified within Motion 738. - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** asserts that Judge Torres must be exasperated by the filing. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6ab2740d885d0d8b774) - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** redirects the group's focus specifically back onto Motion 738. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q075b376ff570e6a0b1c9) - ntp***, Sep 9, 2025: ntp*** notes that Motion 738 references identifiers 1345 and 2274, speculating they correspond to group members. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc25b1ea4b9290892de8) ## Discussing Court Response Timing Regarding Section 853 Motions Participants address the prolonged timeline for the court to rule on submitted motions. - ntp***, Sep 9, 2025: ntp*** inquires when Judge Torres will respond to the pending motions given the elapsed time. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07824b4eee7f38dbf840) - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** affirms agreement regarding the delay in judicial response. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a60736cb0e1899e1fb) ## Evaluating Financial Scale and Exposure in Recent Motions Participants assess the financial amounts referenced in ongoing motion filings. - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** notes that the amount involved reaches 600,000 up to the current motion. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9891eeb5668a40480cc6) - rui***, Sep 9, 2025: rui*** contends that this reflects the most severely exploited participant. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ede4e8d4780002c9083) ## Mutual Accusations Over Creditor Registration and Victim Status Participants exchange sharp criticisms over creditor filings and claims of victimhood. - rim***, Sep 9, 2025: rim*** accuses another participant of submitting creditor and exchange forms and harassing the court before claiming victim status. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85686f0a99478a4e62a8) - rim***, Sep 9, 2025: rim*** reiterates criticism against Ryan for contradictory filing behavior while allegedly ignoring conspiracy issues. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe60abd54b456954ef69d) ## Interpreting Encouragement of Creditor Registration and Claim Reductions Participants dispute whether encouraging creditor registration led to massive claim deletions. - rui***, Sep 10, 2025: rui*** disputes a preceding statement as inaccurate. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde12c6dcfe729deb0ab3) - rui***, Sep 10, 2025: rui*** contends that encouraging registration enlarged the pool and resulted in Luc's 32 billion claim reduction. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946264e2660a2e08c205) ## Addressing Redaction Practices and Public Disclosure of Letters Participants discuss court filing confidentiality and the disclosure of unredacted pro se letters. - reb***, Sep 10, 2025: reb*** alleges that letters to the court from pro se filers in 723 were uploaded unredacted in retaliation to expose personal information. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a5dae95bc5f0c4b8ff) - chu***, Sep 10, 2025: chu*** clarifies that they personally did not request confidential redaction. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q102146f3e8d558dee2bd) ## Reacting to Anonymous Allegations in Motion 739 Participants respond to accusations raised in Motion 739 and plan emergency countermeasures. - rui***, Sep 10, 2025: rui*** condemns the filer of Motion 739 as bringing about self-inflicted harm. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q085667fa56a3fe21b9e5) - rui***, Sep 10, 2025: rui*** states an intention to file an emergency motion immediately in response. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q591967c80b315ed99db1) ## Examining Motion 742 Challenges Against Filing 724 Participants analyze challenges brought in Motion 742 against previous filing 724. - him***, Sep 10, 2025: him*** reports that Motion 742 was filed by an individual in remission proceedings opposing filing 724. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d08fb63ccf02d0be9be) - him***, Sep 10, 2025: him*** explains that the filer of Motion 742 explicitly disagrees with filing 724. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5c0872fa2e115260a38) ## Critiquing Imposed Victim Status and Prosecution Arguments Participants critique arguments that compel participants to accept victim classification. - him***, Sep 10, 2025: him*** points out that the filing cited prosecution remarks portraying refusal to claim victim status as foolish or malicious. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0771791866d2b81a49b2) - ntp***, Sep 10, 2025: ntp*** argues that such arguments are intentionally laying a trap for participants. [Chinese original](https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac4b9d2f20f57eefbe8d)