Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok): community discussion 140

A member reported that 853 had just begun returning money. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant argued that getting money back required the whole case to be overturned. Community statements, not court findings.

Another participant argued refunds could not happen because 853 had not yet been adjudicated. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant argued there could be multiple bosses and that the RICO plea outcome might invalidate a plea agreement and add obstruction, conspiracy fraud, money laundering, and unregistered-agent charges. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant claimed that if only some farmers cheated investors, the matter would be a civil lawsuit. Community statements, not court findings.

The same participant argued that if Wang and Yu embezzled money, it might be only a civil misappropriation issue. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant argued that reversing 853 required a third party to fully overturn the case first. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant claimed the defendant could not self-argue well because of poor English. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant stated that an appeal application had been denied. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant argued Guo should not be treated as a boss, saying he had no title, shares, or salary and lacked operational control. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant claimed that during the second-instance phase, Baochu was targeting Qing specifically. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant used a derisive personal accusation, saying AVa had 'put the green hat' on ADiao, as part of the blame-and-status conflict. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant asked whether the Guo family’s Golden Spring company was missing from the forfeiture list. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant responded affirmatively that it was not in the seizure list. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant said the asset was purchased with investment capital. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant said ACA capital already contained old money and alleged prosecutors intentionally manipulated fund-flow evidence. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant argued defense counsel only denied Guo ownership while not disproving allegations that investor money funded the property, and questioned whether prosecutors and official claims were false. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant raised skepticism by asking whether Alliance’s complaints about Taga and Tombstone Tech were merely paid advertising. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant shared a social-media post link as evidence support. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant posted another external link to strengthen a narrative position. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant shared a third social-post link, which others treated as another disputed item in evidence discussion. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant questioned what value such speakers added and whether preserving their legal status helped the self-prosecution group. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant alleged that someone appeared to be pretending to be a random bystander. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant suggested the group had many new outsiders under pressure, implying a large coordinated plan not led by Guo. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant claimed Xi was not a deep-government actor and described a conflict between elite factions, with deep-government actors alleged to have humiliated Xi and Peng. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant asserted that Chuan would not dare to use the CIA. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant suggested that the Communist Party might still be supporting the outcome at the end. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant said the expected path was forfeiture first, then PAG creditor payouts in bankruptcy. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant added that this sequence was what would complete the task. Community statements, not court findings.

A participant warned that 1.4 billion in seized funds would be distributed in bankruptcy first, likely leaving nothing for the criminal case. Community statements, not court findings.