Guo Wengui / Miles Guo — bankruptcy case · EXHIBIT · ECF #250-15

METADATA

Defendant
Guo Wengui / Miles Guo / Ho Wan Kwok
Court
CTB
Case No.
22-50073
ECF #
250
Type
EXHIBIT
Filed
2013-11-14

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# **EXHIBIT PAX 15**

Transcript of the April 12, 2022 Deposition of Yvette Wang

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 In re: UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT BRIDGEPORT DIVISION )Case No. ) 22-50073- (JAM) Ho Wan Kwok, Debtor. REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF (30(b) (6) CORPORATE REPRESENTATIVE YAN PING WANG Tuesday, April 12, 2022 New York, New York Reported by: B. Suzanne Hull, CSR No. 13495 Page 1

5 HoWanKwok: By MR. BENNETT S. SILVERBERG

Alliance Asia By MR. DAVID V. HARBACH II

New York, New York 10036

15 By MR. STUART M. SARNOFF

95

1 APPEARANCES **1 INDEX** <sup>2</sup>

Golden Spring By MR. SCOTT D. ROSEN 22 **three pages** 22 (New York) Limited: Attorney at Law

3 2 4 For the Debtor Brown Rudnick 3 **EXAMINATION BY PAGE** MR. KENNETH AULET **4** <sup>6</sup>Attorneys at Law 5 **MR.HARBACH** 10 Times Sqill!Ie Tower 7 7 Times Square 6 New York, New York 10036 8 (212) 209-4924 7 (212) 209-4950 **8** 9 bsilverberg@brownrudnick.com kaulet@brownrudnick.com 9 **EXHIBITS** <sup>10</sup> **11** For Creditor Pacific O'Melveny & Myers 10 **11 EXHIBIT DESCRIPTION PAGE** 12 Opporhmity Fund, Attorney at Law L.P.. 1625 Eye Street NW **12 Exhibit** 1 - **Transcript of testimony of 19** 13 Washington, DC 20006 (202) 383-5127 **13 Yan Ping Wang, taken** 14 dharbach@omrn.com - and- **14 October 11, 2018, forty-two** MS. **15** AISLING MURRAY **pages** 16 Attorneys at Law **16** Times Square Tower **Exhibit 2** - **Trial transcript, dated 28** 17 7 Times Square **17 April 26, 2019, one hundred** 18 (212) 326-2293 **18 twenty-five pages** (212) 728-5831 **19 Exhibit 3** - **Director and officer register, 43** 19 ssamoff@omm.com amurray@ornrn.com **20 Golden Spring (New York)** <sup>20</sup> 21 For Creditor Cohn Birnbaum Shea **21 Limited, Delaware Coiporation,**

| | (860) 493-2220 | 24 | dated November 14, 2013, three | | |----------|----------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------|--------| | 24<br>25 | srosen@cbshealaw.com | 25 | pages | | | | Page 2 | | | Page 4 | | 1 | APPEARANCES (Continued) | 1 | EXHIBITS (Continued) | | | 2 | | | 2 EXHIBIT<br>DESCRIPTION | PAGE | | 3 | | | | | | | United States Department of<br>4 For United States | | 3 Exhibit 5 -<br>Exhibit B, Golden Spring | 166 | | 5 | Justice<br>Trustee:<br>By MS. HOLLEY L. CLAIBORN | 4 | (New York)'s Delaware | | | | Attorney at Law | 5 | certificate of incoiporation | | | 6 | 1100 L Street NW | 6 | and certificate of revival, | | | | Room 12210 | 7 | dated March 10, 2015, five | | | 7 | Washington, DC 20005 | | | | | | (202) 514-2000 | 8 | pages | | | 8 | holley.l.claiborn@usdoj.gov | | 9 Exhibit 6 -<br>Pacific Alliance Asia | 209 | | 9 | 10 For the Committee on Pullman & Comley | 10 | Opportunity Fund L.P. 's notice | | | | Secured Creditors: By MR. JONATHAN KAPLAN | 11 | of deposition of Golden Spring | | | 11 | Attorney at Law | 12 | (New York) Limited pursuant to | | | | 90 State House Square | | | | | 12 | Hartford, Connecticut 06103 | 13 | Rule 30(b )(6) of the Federal | | | | (860) 424-4379 | 14 | Rules of Civil Procedure, | | | 13 | jkaplan@pullcom.com | 15 | dated March 29, 2022, seven | | | 14 | | 16 | pages | | | 15 | 16 The Videographer:<br>Jeffrey Nichols | 17 | | | | | 17 The Interpreter:<br>Sunny Johnston (Mandarin) | | | | | | Una Wilkinson (Mandarin)<br>18 The Check | 18 | | | | | Interpreter: | 19 | | | | 19 | | 20 | | | | | Also Present:<br>Makenzie Russo | 21 | | | | 20 | | 22 | | | | 21<br>22 | | | | | | 23 | | 23 | | | | 24 | | 24 | | | | 25 | | 25 | | | | | Page 3 | | | Page 5 | | | | | | |

100 Pearl Street **23 Exhibit 4** - **Affidavit of Yan Ping Wang, 55** 23 Hartford, Connecticut 06103

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| | 1 QUESTIONS INSTRUCTED NOT TO | 1 | MR. ROSEN: Good morning.<br>09:16:24 | |----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 ANSWER: | 2 | Scott Rosen, Cohn Birnbaum & Shea,<br>09:16:24 | | 3 | Page 36<br>Line 18 | | 3 representing Golden Spring (New York).<br>09: 16:28 | | 4 | Page 3 7<br>Line 25 | 4 | MR. KAPLAN: Jonathan Kaplan,<br>09: 16:36 | | 5 | Page 41<br>Line 16 | | 5 Pullman & Comley, representing the Committee of<br>09:16:36 | | 6 | Page 65<br>Line 9 | | 6 Unsecured Creditors.<br>09:16:40 | | 7 | Page 126 Line 20 | 7 | MR. AULET: Kenneth Aulet, of Brown Rudnick, 09:16:40 | | 8 | Page 128 Line 18 | | 8 representing the debtor, Ho Wan Kwok.<br>09: 16:43 | | 9 | Page 13 0 Line 2 | 9 | MR. SIL VER.BERG: Bennett Silverberg,<br>09:16:46 | | 10 | Page 150 Line 5 | | 10 Brown Rudnick, representing the debtor.<br>09: 16:49 | | 11 | Page 157 Line 17 | 11 | MS. RUSSO: Makenzie Russo, with<br>09:16:52 | | 12 | | | 12 O'Melveny & Myers, representing Pacific Alliance.<br>09: 16:56 | | 13 | | 13 | MR. SARNOFF: Stuart Sarnoff,<br>09:16:57 | | 14 | | | 14 Pacific Alliance.<br>09:17:02 | | 15 | | 15 | MS. CLAIBORN: And I am Holley Claiborn, for 09:17:02 | | 16 | | | 16 the U.S. Trustee.<br>09:17:04 | | 17 | | 17 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Thank you.<br>09: 17:05 | | 18 | | 18 | Will the court reporter please swear in both 09: 17:06 | | 19 | | | 19 interpreters and then the witness.<br>09:17:09 | | 20 | | 20 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand,<br>09: 17:14 | | 21 | | | 21 please.<br>09:17:15 | | 22 | | 22 | | | 23 | | 23 | SUNNY JOHNSTON, | | 24 | | | 24 having been called as an interpreter to interpret | | 25 | | | 25 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was | | | Page 6 | | Page 8 | | I | New York, New York | | I duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best | | 2 | Tuesday, April 12, 2022; 9:15 a.m. | | 2 of her abilities and interpreted as follows: | | 3 | 162 East 64th Street | 3 | 09:17:20 | | 4 | | 4 | THE INTERPRETER: Yes, I do.<br>09:17:20 | | 5 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Good morning. | 5 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand,<br>09: 17:25 | | 6 | We are going on the record at 9: 15 a.m. on<br>09:15:21 | | 6 please, Check Interpreter.<br>09:17:27 | | | 7 April 12th, 2022.<br>09:15:25 | 7 | | | 8 | This is media unit one of the video-recorded 09: 15:27 | 8 | UNA WILKINSON, | | | 9 deposition of Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for<br>09: 15:31 | | 9 having been called as an interpreter to interpret | | | 10 Golden Spring (New York), taken by<br>09:15:37 | | 10 English into Mandarin and Mandarin into English, was | | | II Creditor Pacific Alliance In Re: Ho Wan Kwok, filed<br>09:15:39 | | 11 duly sworn to interpret the proceedings to the best | | | 12 in the United States Bankruptcy Court, District of<br>09: 15:42 | | 12 of her abilities and interpreted as follows: | | | 13 Connecticut, Bridgeport Division. The case number is 09:15:47 | 13 | 09:17:42 | | | 14 22-50073 (JAM).<br>09:15:49 | 14 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes, I do.<br>09:17:42 | | 15 | This deposition is being held virtually via 09: 15 :50 | 15 | THE REPORTER: Raise your right hand please, | | | 16 Zoom.<br>09: 15:57 | | 16 Witness. | | 17 | My name is Jeff Nichols, from the firm<br>09: 15:57 | 17 | | | | 18 Veritext Legal Solutions, and I am the videographer.<br>09:15:59 | 18 | YAN PING WANG, | | | 19 The court reporter is Suzanne Hull, from the firm<br>09: 16:02 | | 19 called as a 30(b)(6) Corporate Representative by | | | 20 Veritext Legal Solutions.<br>09:16:06 | | 20 counsel for Creditor Pacific Alliance Asia | | 21 | Counsel will now please state their<br>09:16:07 | | 21 Opportunity Fund, L.P., being first duly sworn, | | | 22 appearances and affiliations for the record.<br>09:16:10 | | 22 testified as follows: | | 23 | MR. HARBACH: Good morning.<br>09:16:14 | 23 | 09: 17:59 | | 24 | I'm David Harbach, with O'Melveny & Myers,<br>09:16:15 | 24 | THE WITNESS: Yes.<br>09:17:59 | | | 25 and I represent Pacific Alliance.<br>09:16:19 | 25 | THE REPORTER: Okay. State credentials,<br>09:18:02 | | | Page 7 | | Page 9 |

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| | 1 please.<br>09: 18:06 | | Q. Okay. Super.<br>09:21: 13 | |----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | THE INTERPRETER: Yes.<br>09:18:08 | 2 | So if you would, please wait for me to<br>09:21: 18 | | 3 | Good morning, everyone.<br>09: 18:09 | | 3 fmish my question before you start answering, and<br>09:21:21 | | 4 | Court certified Mandarin interpreter,<br>09: 18: 10 | | 4 I'll do my best to wait for you to stop speaking<br>09:21:24 | | | 5 California State Certified Interpreter<br>09: 18: 13 | | 5 before I ask my next question.<br>09:21:28 | | | 6 Sunny Johnston. Certification number is 301314.<br>09:18:14 | 6 | Okay?<br>09:21:30 | | 7 | THE REPORTER: Check Interpreter,<br>09:18:18 | 7 | A. Yes, sir.<br>09:21:31 | | | 8 credentials, please.<br>09:18:22 | 8 | Thank you.<br>09:21:33 | | 9 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: I am the check<br>09:18:25 | 9 | Q. Okay. Super.<br>09:21:33 | | | 10 interpreter for Mandarin and English, and<br>09: 18:26 | 10 | And as I said a moment ago, if there is<br>09:21:35 | | | 11 a court-certified interpreter for the Unified Court<br>09: 18:29 | | 11 a question that you do not understand, please just<br>09:21:40 | | | 12 System in New York state.<br>09: 18:33 | | 12 let me know, and I'm happy to try and rephrase it.<br>09:21:43 | | 13 | THE REPORTER: Thank you.<br>09:18:36 | | 13 And if there is a question that you would prefer be<br>09:21:48 | | 14 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Thank you.<br>09:18:37 | | 14 translated in order to answer it, that is no problem. 09:21:52 | | 15 | You may proceed, Counsel.<br>09:18:37 | | 15 That is what Ms. Johnston is here for.<br>09:21:56 | | 16 | 09:18:37 | 16 | Okay?<br>09:21:59 | | 17 | EXAMINATION<br>09: 18:40 | 17 | A. Yes, sir.<br>09:22:00 | | | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09: 18:40 | 18 | Thank you.<br>09:22:02 | | 19 | Q. Good morning, Ms. Wang.<br>09:18:41 | 19 | Q. Okay. Are you on any medication or --<br>09:22:02 | | 20 | My name is David Harbach, as you just heard. 09:18:44 | 20 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before we start,<br>09:22: 11 | | 21 | And a couple housekeeping matters before we<br>09: 18:50 | | 21 stipulations as to objections and signing.<br>09:22: 13 | | | 22 get started.<br>09: 18:53 | 22 | What is your preference?<br>09:22: 18 | | 23 | Are you able to hear -- are you able to hear 09: 18:54 | 23 | MR. HARBACH: I'm not sure I understand,<br>09:22:20 | | | 24 me okay?<br>09:18:55 | | 24 Scott.<br>09:22:22 | | 25 | A. Yes.<br>09: 19:09<br>Page 10 | 25 | MR. ROSEN: The usual stipulations? All<br>09:22:24<br>Page 12 | | | | | | | | | | | | I | I can hear you clearly.<br>09: 19: 10 | | I objections reserved to trial except for form?<br>09:22:27 | | 2 | Q. I'm aware that you had given depositions in 09: 19: 12 | 2 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. That's okay with me.<br>09:22:32 | | | 3 the past in English.<br>09:19: 15 | 3 | MR. ROSEN: Okay. The witness is not going 09:22:36 | | 4 | Would you be comfortable proceeding in<br>09:19:18 | | 4 to waive tbe signing and reading of the transcript.<br>09:22:38 | | | 5 English today?<br>09: 19:21 | 5 | MR. HARBACH: I didn't hear you, Scott.<br>09:22:42 | | 6 | A. Okay. My mother tongue is not English, but 09: 19:37 | 6 | Could you please speak up?<br>09:22:44 | | | 7 I can try to go through the deposition in English;<br>09: 19:54 | 7 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.<br>09:22:46 | | | 8 however, I do need the interpreter stand by in case<br>09: 19:57 | 8 | The witness will not waive the signing and<br>09:22:46 | | | 9 I don't understand anything.<br>09:20:00 | | 9 reading of the transcript.<br>09:22:49 | | 10 | Q. That -- that sounds perfect, and that is<br>09:20:02 | 10 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Understood.<br>09:22:50 | | | 11 just fine with us; so we can proceed in English. And 09:20:05<br>12 if you have a question or you would like a question<br>09:20: 10 | 12 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09:22:58<br>Q. Ms. Wang,Iwasjustabouttoaskyouifyou 09:22:58 | | | 13 translated into Mandarin or if you would like an<br>09:20: 13 | | 13 are on any medication or under the influence of<br>09:23:01 | | | 14 answer translated into Mandarin, please just say so,<br>09:20:20 | | 09:23:05 | | | 15 and Ms. Johnston can help.<br>09:20:24 | | 14 any- -- an1thing that might impair your memory or<br>15 interfere with your ability to answer questions<br>09:23:09 | | 16 | Is that acceptable to you?<br>09:20:27 | | 16 truthfully.<br>09:23:12 | | 17 | A. Okay. Yes.<br>09:20:30 | 17 | A. No.<br>09:23: 15 | | 18 | Thank you.<br>09:20:52 | 18 | Q. Is there any reason you can think of why you 09:23: 17 | | 19 | Q. Okay. Very good.<br>09:20:52 | | 19 cannot provide truthful testimony today?<br>09:23 :20 | | 20 | And just a few more things. Because we are<br>09:20:56 | 20 | A. I don't think there is any reason, sir.<br>09:23 :24 | | | 21 doing this deposition remotely, it is very important 09:20:59 | 21 | Q. Okay. Super.<br>09:23:29 | | | 22 for the court reporter that only one person be<br>09:21:03 | 22 | I believe you have been deposed at least<br>09:23:30 | | | 23 speaking at a time.<br>09:21:08 | | 23 once before in October of2018 in litigation<br>09:23:37 | | 24<br>25 | Do you understand?<br>09:21 :09<br>A. (In English) Yes, Ido. Yeah.<br>09:21:12 | 25 | 24 involvingPAX.<br>09:23:44<br>Do you recall that deposition?<br>09:23:46 |

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| A. I remember I was deposed before, but I don't 09:23 :48 | A. Correct.<br>09:26:51<br>I | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 recollect the -- the dates -- the precise dates.<br>09:23:56 | Q. Did you meet with them in person to do that 09:26:52<br>2 | | Q. Understand.<br>09:23:59<br>3 | 3 preparation?<br>09:26:56 | | Other than that deposition where PAX<br>09:24:00<br>4 | A. No.<br>09:26:57<br>4 | | 5 examined you, have you been deposed in any other<br>09:24:09 | Due to COVID, I meet our counsels via -- via 09:26:59<br>5 | | 6 litigation since then?<br>09:24: 13 | 6 video call.<br>09:27:07 | | A. Sir, since -- since then? You mean since<br>09:24: 15<br>7 | Q. Thank you.<br>09:27:08<br>7 | | 8 when?<br>09:24:19 | 8<br>Did you have communications with anyone else 09:27:08 | | Q. Well, I'll represent to you that the<br>09:24:20<br>9 | 9 at Golden Spring -- via telephone, videoconference,<br>09:27: 11 | | 10 deposition that PAX conducted of you was in October<br>09:24:23 | 10 or otherwise -- to prepare for today's deposition?<br>09:27: 17 | | 11 of2018.<br>09:24:26 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>09:27:24<br>11 | | 12<br>And my question is have you been deposed<br>09:24:30 | 12<br>The witness can answer without disclosing<br>09:27:25 | | 13 since then?<br>09:24:33 | 13 any conversations with either inhouse counsel or<br>09:27:28 | | 14<br>A. I believe so.<br>09:24:34 | 14 outside counsel.<br>09:27:32 | | Q. And do you recall when?<br>09:24:37<br>15 | THE WITNESS: Sir, sorry.<br>09:27:36<br>15 | | A. I don't recall.<br>09:24:44<br>16 | 16<br>Can you repeat your question?<br>09:27:37 | | 17<br>Q. In what proceeding?<br>09:24:45 | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09:27:40 | | A. It was in a case called Strategic Vision,<br>09:24:49<br>18 | Q. Yes.<br>09:27:41<br>18 | | 19 Eastern Profits -- or Eastern Profits, Strategic<br>09:24:57 | It was a yes-or-no question that did not<br>19<br>09:27:41 | | 20 Vision. It should be the same case.<br>09:25 :02 | 20 call for any -- any privileged information.<br>09:27:43 | | Q. Okay. And in -- in what course is that<br>09:25:04<br>21 | The question is did you meet with any<br>09:27:46<br>21 | | 22 case, if you know?<br>09:25:07 | 22 personnel at Golden Spring -- via telephone, Zoom,<br>09:27:50 | | 23<br>A. In a court in New York.<br>09:25:08 | 23 videoconference or otherwise -- to prepare for your<br>09:27:57 | | 24<br>Q. Okay. Any other depositions, besides that<br>09:25:11 | 24 deposition today?<br>09:28:01 | | 25 one, since October of2018?<br>09:25:20 | 25<br>A. Yes, I did.<br>09:28:01 | | Page 14 | Page 16 | | | | | | | | A. Hmmm. No.<br>09:25:25<br>1 | Q. With whom did you communicate at<br>09:28:05 | | Q. Do you understand that you are here today as 09:25:27<br>2 | 2 Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today?<br>09:28:08 | | 3 a corporate representative of Golden Spring<br>09:25:35 | A. I communicated with the owner of<br>3<br>09:28: 11 | | 4 (New York)?<br>09:25:40 | 4 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, Mr. Qiang Guo. Let 09:28:U | | 5<br>A. Yes, I do.<br>09:25:40 | 5 me spell, Q-i-a-n-g, last name G-u-o.<br>09:28:25 | | 6<br>Q. Did you review the topics that we intend to<br>09:25:42 | 6<br>Q. How much time did you spend communicating<br>09:28:32 | | 7 cover with you today that were contained in the<br>09:25:48 | 7 with him?<br>09:28:37 | | 8 deposition notice before your testimony today?<br>09:25:51 | 8<br>A. How much time? Like, ten fifteen -- about,<br>09:28:38 | | 9<br>A. Yes.<br>09:25:55 | 9 like, fifteen minutes -- ten, fifteen minutes.<br>09:28:49 | | I did review the topics.<br>09:25:59<br>10 | 10<br>Q. Is there anyone else at Golden Spring with<br>09:28:52 | | Q. Okay. What did you do to prepare -- excuse<br>09:26:01<br>11 | 11 whom you communicated to prepare for today's<br>09:28:55 | | 12 me -- prepare for your deposition today, generally<br>09:26:05 | 12 deposition?<br>09:28:57 | | 13 speaking?<br>09:26:08 | A. No.<br>09:28:57<br>13 | | 14<br>A. I prepared with our law firm -- with our<br>09:26:09 | 14<br>Q. Is there anyone else in the world, other<br>09:28:58 | | 15 attorneys.<br>09:26:15 | 15 than attorneys, with whom you communicated to prepare 09:29:01 | | 16<br>Q. Okay. Did you review documents?<br>09:26:16 | 16 for today's deposition?<br>09:29:05 | | 17<br>A. Yes.<br>09:26:21 | 17<br>A. No.<br>09:29:07 | | I did review documents.<br>09:26:22<br>18 | Q. What is the name of -- withdrawn.<br>18<br>09:29:09 | | 19<br>Q. Did you meet with any other personnel at<br>09:26:24 | 19<br>A moment ago, when you said you met with<br>09:29:26 | | 20 Golden Spring to prepare for your deposition today?<br>09:26:29 | 20 lawyers to prepare for today's deposition, lawyers<br>09:29:29 | | A. Meet -- I'm sorry.<br>09:26:32<br>21 | 21 from which firm or firms?<br>09:29:35 | | 22<br>What do you mean? You mean meet in person? 09:26:38 | 22<br>A. Attorneys from Mr. Scott Rosen's firm.<br>09:29:37 | | 23 What do you mean, meet?<br>09:26:41 | 23 I couldn't pronounce his law firm's name. It should 09:29:45 | | 24<br>Q. Well, a moment ago you said that the law<br>09:26:43<br>25 firm assisted you in preparing for today.<br>09:26:49 | 24 be -- I mean, it is complicated for me to pronounce<br>09:29:49<br>25 his law firm's name; so Mr. Scott Rosen and his<br>09:29:55 |

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| I colleague, Mr. Timothy -- Tim.<br>09:29:59 | 1 the -- the second one that says deposition of<br>09:35:07 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>Q. Tim Miltenberger?<br>09:30:01 | 2 Yvette Wang.<br>09:35:11 | | 3<br>A I believe so. I don't remember his last<br>09:30:05 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, before you proceed with 09:35: 11<br>3 | | 4 name It sounds like it correct.<br>09:30:07 | 4 the question, could you please explain to me which of 09:35: 13 | | 5<br>Q. Okay. Did you meet or consult with any<br>09:30:09 | 5 the 30(b )(6) topics this document pertains to.<br>09:35:17 | | 6 lawyers from the Brown Rudnick firm to prepare for<br>09:30: 13 | MR. HARBACH: Well, it could be -- it could 09:35:23<br>6 | | 7 today's deposition?<br>09:30:23 | 7 be any number of them because the document is the<br>09:35:25 | | 8<br>A No, I didn't<br>09:30:24 | 8 transcript of her prior deposition; so it will be<br>09:35:29 | | 9<br>Q. When was Golden Spring (New York)Limited<br>09:30:27 | 9 multiple such topics.<br>09:35:33 | | 10 formed?<br>09:30:40 | 10<br>MR. ROSEN: I'll reserve the right to object 09:35:36 | | II<br>A Golden Spring (New York) Limited was formed 09:30:40 | 11 and instruct the witness not to answer if it exceeds<br>09:35:38 | | 12 in the year of 2015.<br>09:30:45 | 12 the scope of the 30(b )(6).<br>09:35:42 | | 13<br>Q. Does March 2015 sound about right to you?<br>09:30:47 | But go ahead and proceed.<br>13<br>09:35:43 | | 14<br>A In March, yes.<br>09:30:54 | 14<br>MR. HARBACH: Understood.<br>09:35:46 | | Q. What is Golden Spring (New York)'s<br>09 30.59<br>15 | 15<br>Is there anyone who can't see the exhibit in 09:35:49 | | 09:31 :03<br>16 relationship to Golden Spring (Hong Kong)? | 16 their marked exhibits folder before I go on?<br>09:35:51 | | | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09:35:59 | | 17<br>A Golden Spring (New York) Limited is<br>09.3109 | | | 18 100 percent owned by China Golden Spring (Hong Kong). 09 :31 : 15 | 18<br>Q. Okay. Ms. Wang, can you see it?<br>09:36:00<br>19<br>A. Sir, I can see a .pd- -- it says .pdffile<br>09:36:03 | | Q. And for purposes of today's deposition, I'm 09:31 :21<br>19 | | | 20 going to refer to China Golden Spring (Hong Kong) as 09:31 :27 | 20 with forty-two pages.<br>09:36:07 | | 21 just Golden Spring (Hong Kong).<br>09:31 :33 | 21<br>Q. You got it?<br>09:36:09 | | 22<br>Is that okay with you?<br>09:31 :36 | 22<br>A. This is the one?<br>09:36: 11 | | A Yes.<br>09:31 :37<br>23 | 23<br>Gotit. Okay.<br>09:36: 12 | | Q. Okay. Did you ever work at Golden Spring<br>24<br>09:31 :39 | 24<br>Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>09:36: 13 | | 25 (Hong Kong)?<br>09:31 :45<br>Page 18 | 25<br>Please open that one up.<br>09:36:15<br>Page 20 | | | | | | | | 1<br>A Yes.<br>09:31 :49 | 1<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:36:18 | | Q. Do you recall when you worked there?<br>2<br>09:31 :50 | 2<br>Yes.<br>09:36: 18 | | A That was back to 2016 for, like, a couple of 09:31:53<br>3 | Q. So just to refresh your recollection before<br>09:36: 19<br>3 | | 4 months.<br>09:32:05 | 4 I proceed, the question I put to you concerned the<br>09:36:22 | | Q. Okay. I would like to show you what I'm<br>5<br>09:32:07 | 5 dates that you worked at Golden Spring (Hong Kong).<br>09:36:25 | | 6 going to mark as Exhibit 1.<br>09:32:22 | 6 And I believe you said that it was approximately<br>09:36:31 | | 7<br>(Deposition Exhibit Number 1<br>09:32:29 | 7 2016. And I just want to show you in the deposition 09:36:36 | | 8<br>was marked for identification.)<br>09:32:29 | 8 in 2018 where you were asked about this. Let me read 09:36:42 | | MR. HARBACH: And we'll just wait a moment<br>09:32:32<br>9 | 9 what you said, and then ask the question again.<br>09:36:49 | | 10 for my colleague to drop it in there. Just sit<br>09:32:34 | 10<br>So I -- can I direct your attention to page<br>09:36:52 | | 11 tight, everybody. It will be there in a second.<br>09:32:56 | 11 thirty of the transcript.<br>09:36:55 | | 12 Sorry for the delay. We are working on it. It seems 09:33: 17 | 12<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:37:00 | | 13 to be a little slow. It is uploading now.<br>09:33:30 | Q. Let me know when you are there.<br>13<br>09:37:02 | | 14<br>Ms. Russo is telling me it should be in<br>09:34:30 | 14<br>A. Page thirty, three, zero, sir; right?<br>09:37:09 | | 15 there, but I don't see it in my marked exhibits<br>09:34:33 | Q. Yes,ma'am. That is right.<br>15<br>09:37:15 | | 16 folder.<br>09:34:37 | And it is the -- you know, page thirty of<br>16<br>09:37: 18 | | 17<br>Does anyone else?<br>09:34:38 | 17 the miniature pages.<br>09:37:21 | | MR. KAPLAN: There -- there are two folders. 09:34:42<br>18 | Do you see how each of the miniature pages<br>18<br>09:37:23 | | 19 It looks like it is in the second one.<br>09:34:45 | 19 is numbered?<br>09:37:26 | | | | | 20<br>MR. HARBACH: Okay. Got it.<br>09:34:57 | 20<br>A. I am on page thirty.<br>09:37:30 | | MR. ROSEN: Counsel--<br>09:34:59<br>21 | What do you mean, miniature pages? I don't 09:37:33<br>21 | | 22<br>MR. HARBACH: That seems --<br>09:35:00 | 22 understand that.<br>09:37:38 | | 23<br>MR. ROSEN: -- before we --<br>09:35:00 | Q. Well, each-- sure.<br>23<br>09:37:39 | | 24<br>MR. HARBACH: That seems to be the way it is 09:35:02<br>25 on -- on my computer. It is in the second one in<br>09:35:05 | Each page of the document that I just sent<br>24<br>09:37:41<br>25 you has four pages of the transcript on it.<br>09:37:44 |

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| 1<br>Do you see that?<br>09:37:47 | | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 1 from 2018, I believe; so before that I don't believe<br>09:40:44 | | A. Yes.<br>09:37:48<br>2 | 2 I work for Golden Spring (New York). Technically,<br>09:40:52 | | Q. Okay. So those are the page numbers that<br>09:37:48<br>3 | 3 I work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and -- which<br>09:40:56 | | 4 I am referring to. And on page thirty, at line ten,<br>09:37:52 | 4 include the time of the 2016, when I revert because<br>09:41:01 | | 5 you were asked a question that reads:<br>09:38:03 | 5 2015 -- 2016 I revert. 2016, that is a more<br>09:41:06 | | 6<br>"QUESTION: Then you moved to Hong Kong 09:38:05 | 6 consecutive period of time for me to base in<br>09:41 :12 | | 7<br>in 2015 to work in September of2015 to work 09:38:07 | 7 Hong Kong; so besides that, I traveled between<br>09:41:16 | | 8<br>for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?"<br>09:38: 13 | 8 Hong Kong/U.S.<br>09:41:20 | | And your answer was:<br>9<br>09:38:18 | Q. Okay. Solthinkiunderstandyou,but<br>9<br>09:41:22 | | "ANSWER: Yes."<br>09:38:19<br>10 | 10 I want to make sure.<br>09:41:25 | | Do you see that there?<br>09:38:21<br>11 | In approximately 2015 you started working<br>09:41 :28<br>11 | | A. Sir, which page? It is page thirty, but<br>09:38:23<br>12 | 12 for Golden Spring (Hong Kong), and you worked for<br>09:41:33 | | 13 there are four -- four little page number.<br>09:38:26 | 13 Golden Spring (Hong Kong) until sometime in 2018, at 09:41:40 | | Q. For--<br>14<br>09:38:31 | 14 which point you began working for Golden Spring<br>09:41:46 | | A. I'm not sure which one.<br>09:38:32<br>15 | 15 (New York).<br>09:41:49 | | Q. Right.<br>09:38:34<br>16 | 16<br>Do I have that right?<br>09:41:49 | | A. Is it Page 113 or 14, 15 or 16 9 Which one<br>17<br>09:38:35 | 17<br>A. I officially started to work for<br>09:41:53 | | 18 you are talking about?<br>09:38:39 | 18 Golden Spring (New York) from 2018, yes. You are<br>09:41:57 | | Q. I understand. I understand your confusion.<br>09:38:41<br>19 | 19 correct on that.<br>09:42:03 | | When I refer to page numbers of this<br>20<br>09:38:44 | 20<br>Q. Okay. And prior to that, you worked for<br>09:42:04 | | 21 transcript, I am only talking about the pages -- the<br>09:38:46 | 21 Golden Spring (Hong Kong); is that correct?<br>09:42: 10 | | 22 page numbers for the small pages.<br>09:38:51 | 22<br>A. I believe it is more a mix because I was<br>09:42:14 | | 23<br>A. Oh.<br>09:38:53 | 23 working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) and same time<br>09:42:20 | | 24<br>Q. Okay?<br>09:38:54 | 24 I was working for Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business<br>09:42:23 | | 25<br>And I know it is confusing. I'm sorry.<br>09:38:57 | 25 in China also; so that is the reason when I referred 09:42:29 | | Page 22 | Page 24 | | 1<br>A. All right. Let me go back and find it.<br>09:38:59 | I I was in Hong Kong in 2016. That is a -- as I said, 09 :42 :33 | | Q. Yeah. Go back to page thirty of the little<br>2<br>09:39:01 | 2 a penod of consecutive time for me to -- leaving<br>09·42 ·42 | | 3 pages.<br>09:39:04 | 3 Hong Kong and working Hong Kong -- for Hong Kong.<br>09:42:46 | | 4<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:39:06 | 09:42:49<br>4 That is my -- that is my representation. | | Yes.<br>09:39: 14<br>5 | 5<br>Q Were you -- at the time you were working for 09:42:51 | | | 6 Golden Spring (Hong Kong), were you physically in<br>09:42:55 | | | | | I'm on the little page, on page thirty right 09:39:14<br>6 | | | 7 now.<br>09:39: 17 | 7 Hong Kong'<br>09:43 :00 | | Q. Okay. Yes. Sorry for the confusion.<br>8<br>09:39:17 | 8<br>A Not always.<br>09:43 :03 | | 9<br>So take a look at line ten on page thirty,<br>09:39: 19 | 9<br>Q Okay Whendidyoumovetothe<br>09:43:05 | | 10 and you will see a question there about when you<br>09:39:22 | 10 United States?<br>09:43:11 | | 11 moved to Hong Kong to work for Golden Spring<br>09:39:26 | II<br>A What do you mean, move, sir?<br>09:43.11 | | 12 (Hong Kong).<br>09:39:30 | Q When did you come to the United States for<br>09:43:17<br>12 | | Do you see that?<br>09:39:31<br>13 | 09:43:22<br>13 the first time? How about that? | | 14<br>A. Yes.<br>09:39:35 | 14<br>A That was many years ago.<br>09:43:26 | | I saw this.<br>09:39:53<br>15 | Q Did you come to the United States during the 09:43:28<br>15 | | Q. Okay. And so my question for you is --<br>09:39:55<br>16 | 16 time that you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?<br>09:43 :34 | | 17 first of all, let's just focus on the date.<br>09:40:00 | 09:43:37<br>17<br>A Yes. | | 18<br>Okay? Having read this, does that inform<br>09:40:03 | During the time I worked for Golden Spring<br>09:43 :39<br>18 | | 19 your judgment about when it was that you began to<br>09:40:09 | 19 (Hong Kong), I did travel into the United States<br>09:43:43 | | 20 work for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?<br>09:40:12 | 09:43:46<br>20 also. | | A. My answer, back to this page, which I mean<br>09:40: 16<br>21 | Q Okay When was that?<br>09:43 :47<br>21 | | 22 that, yes. I moved to Hong Kong in 2015, and then<br>09:40:25 | A Oh, I couldn't recall. It should -- between 09:43 :49<br>22 | | 23 I worked in there. I traveled to -- in U.S. But if 09:40:28 | 23 2015 to 2017 or '18. I couldn't recall.<br>09:43:56 | | 24 you have my full Golden Spring (New York) corporation 09:40:34 24<br>25 records, I officially start work in Golden Spring<br>09:40:41 | Q When you came to the United States in that<br>09:44:07<br>25 time period, did you return to China?<br>09:44: 10 |

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| 1<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. Counsel, could you<br>09:44:15 | 1<br>Q. Did you move? Do you know what I mean by<br>09:46:42 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 please show me which of the 30(b)(6) topics this<br>09:44: 18 | 2 move?<br>09:46:47 | | 3 relates to and give me some explanation as to where<br>09:44:21 | 3<br>A. Yes.<br>09:46:47 | | 4 you are going here.<br>09:44:24 | 4<br>Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you moved 09:46:48 | | 5<br>MR. HARBACH: Yeah. Sure.<br>09:44:26 | 5 to the United States for work?<br>09:46:51 | | I am really just trying to get basic<br>09:44:26<br>6 | A. Yes.<br>09:46:59<br>6 | | 7 background of the witness' affiliation with the<br>09:44:29 | Q. When was that?<br>09:47:00<br>7 | | 8 company that she represents. It is very basic. I am 09:44:34 | A. That was started I became to be the officer 09:47:01<br>8 | | | 9 and director of Golden Spring (New York). | | 9 trying to figure out when she worked, where, and for<br>09:44:36 | 09:47:09 | | 10 whom. That's it. It informs her competency as the<br>09:44:40 | 10<br>Q. Which was when?<br>09:47:11 | | 11 30(b)(6) witness, and it gives con- -- it gives<br>09:44:44 | A. Thatwasbeginningof2018,lateof2017.<br>09:47:17<br>11 | | 12 context to her later testimony.<br>09:44:47 | 12 I couldn't remember. It should be beginning of 2018. 09:47:25 | | MR. ROSEN: I -- honestly, I don't see how<br>09:44:49<br>13 | Q. Okay. I'm going to show you another<br>09:47:29<br>13 | | 14 her travel plans has anything to do with this.<br>09:44:52 | 14 document.<br>09:47:36 | | And I'm going to instruct the witness at<br>09:44:56<br>15 | 15<br>MR. HARBACH: We'll call this one number<br>09:47:38 | | 16 this point to simply not answer questions about her<br>09:44:58 | 16 two.<br>09:47:41 | | 17 travel and her whereabouts at various times. If you 09:45:02 | 17<br>(Deposition Exhibit Number 2<br>09:47:41 | | 18 would like to ask questions about her specific duties 09:45:05 | 18<br>was marked for identification.)<br>09:48:39 | | 19 and what she performed and when she performed it,<br>09:45:08 | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09:48:39 | | 20 I have no objection to that.<br>09:45:11 | 20<br>Q. Do you see Exhibit 2 in your folder,<br>09:48:40 | | MR. HARBACH: And you --you are going to<br>09:45:12<br>21 | 21 Ms. Wang?<br>09:48:42 | | 22 object to any question about her physical location<br>09:45: 13 | 22<br>A. Yes.<br>09:48:44 | | 23 when she performed those duties? Is that what<br>09:45: 16 | Q. Okay. It should also be a .pdf. Please<br>09:48:46<br>23 | | 24 I understand?<br>09:45:18 | 24 open it up.<br>09:48:51 | | MR. ROSEN: You --your questions were going 09:45:20<br>25 | 25<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:48:52 | | Page 26 | Page 28 | | | | | | | | I way beyond that. If you want to ask her specific<br>09:45:23 | I<br>Yes, I did.<br>09:48:54 | | 2 duty and where she was, then we can address that<br>09:45:25 | 2<br>Q. Okay. Now, on this one I'm going to ask you 09:48:55 | | 3 question as it comes up. But you are asking about<br>09:45:28 | 3 to turn to page -- okay -- forty-nine.<br>09:49:01 | | 4 general travel plans. You are asking about her--<br>09:45:31 | 4<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:49:14 | | 5 her work for other companies. She is a 30(b)(6)<br>09:45:35 | 5<br>Q. Tell me when you are on page forty-nine.<br>09:49:27 | | 6 witness for Golden Spring (New York), and that is<br>09:45:38 | 6<br>A. Yes, I am.<br>09:49:34 | | 7 where the questions should be directed.<br>09:45:41 | 7<br>Q. Okay. Looking at line five, the question<br>09:49:35 | | 8 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09:45:44 | 8 was put to you:<br>09:49:39 | | 9<br>Q. Ms. Wang, where were you physically located 09:45:45 | "QUESTION: And when did you move to<br>09:49:41<br>9 | | 10 when you worked for Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?<br>09:45:47 | 10<br>New York to start working for the Guo<br>09:49:43 | | A. What do you mean, physically located?<br>09:45 :55<br>11 | family?"<br>09:49:47<br>11 | | | | | 12 I mean, like, stay in hotel or staying-- I mean,<br>09:45:59 | 12<br>Your answer:<br>09:49:48 | | 13 I don't understand, sir.<br>09:46:03 | "ANSWER: That was a date I never<br>09:49:50<br>13 | | 14<br>Q. What country were you in when you worked for 09:46:04 | 14<br>forget. That was April 23rd, 2015."<br>09:49:52 | | 15 Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?<br>09:46:07 | Do you see that there?<br>09:49:59<br>15 | | A. I was in Hong Kong, and I was -- I traveled 09 :46: 10<br>16 | A. Yes,ldid.<br>16<br>09:50:01 | | 17 in the U.S. I traveled in UK. I mean, I still don't 09:46: 14 | 17<br>MR. HARBACH: Okay. This deposition, for<br>09:50:02 | | 18 understand what do you mean physically located, but<br>09:46: 19 | 18 the record -- correction.<br>09:50:04 | | 19 that is the places I had been to.<br>09:46:22 | 19<br>This testimony, for the record, was given in 09:50:06 | | 20<br>Q. Okay. Did there come a time when you<br>09:46:24 | 20 May of 2019, just under three years ago.<br>09:50:09 | | 21 merge -- moved to the United States permanently for<br>09:46:29 | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>09:50:15 | | 22 work?<br>09:46:35 | 22<br>Q. So is that accurate that you moved to<br>09:50: 16 | | 23<br>A. Sir, what do you mean permanently?<br>09:46:35 | 23 New York to start working for the Guo family in April 09:50:20 | | 24<br>Q. Did you move?<br>09:46:38 | 24 of2015?<br>09:50:24 | | 25<br>A. Permanent --<br>09:46:40<br>Page 27 | A. As I said, English is not my mother<br>25<br>09:50:26<br>Page 29 |

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| | 1 language. When you say move, I mean, I understand<br>09:50:32 | | 1 New York and Hong Kong both. I don't see now where<br>09:54:09 | |----------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 better by now more than two, three -- three, four<br>09:50:35 | | 2 there is any problem. I said I'll work in New York<br>09:54:11 | | | 3 years ago, and that was right. I left China. I came 09:50:40 | | 3 and Hong Kong -- starting from New York and back to<br>09:54: 11 | | | 4 to New York-- I came to New York first. Then I went 09:50:45 | | 4 Hong Kong because I originally need to follow<br>09:54:13 | | 5 back to Hong Kong. | 09:50:49 | | 5 Mr. Qiang Guo, if that makes sense to you, sir.<br>09:54:18 | | 6 | So regarding work for it the Guo family,<br>09:50:50 | 6 | Q. Well, I just want to point out that I wasn't 09:54:21 | | | 7 which I refer always as my -- my boss -- like, the<br>09:50:54 | | 7 suggesting there was a problem. I am just trying to<br>09:54:25 | | | 8 owner of Golden Spring, Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g<br>09:51:00 | | 8 understand the facts of what happened; so here is my 09:54:28 | | | 9 G-u-o --that is the same Guo family.<br>09:51:06 | | 9 next question.<br>09:54:31 | | 10 | Q. So did you start working for the Guo family<br>09: 51:09 | 10 | When did you start working at Golden Spring 09:54:32 | | | II in New York in April of2015? Is that correct or not 09:51:23 | | 11 (New York)?<br>09:54:36 | | 12 correct? | 09:51:33 | 12 | A. I believe I replied your question, sir,<br>09:54:40 | | 13 | A. I started to work for the Guo family from<br>09:51:33 | | 13 about Golden Spring (New York). That was started --<br>09:54:44 | | | 14 2000-- end of 2008. That is, like --<br>09:51:39 | | 14 I was appointed as officer and director of<br>09:54:46 | | 15 | Q. Yeah. Let me -- let me interrupt and ask my 09:51:43 | | 15 Golden Spring (New York).<br>09:54:50 | | | 16 question again as you may have misunderstood it.<br>09:51:46 | 16 | Q. When?<br>09:54:50 | | 17 | Did you start working for the Guo family in<br>09: 51: 49 | 17 | A. 2018.<br>09:54:5 I | | | 18 New York in April of2015?<br>09:51:52 | 18 | Q. Do you recall when in 2018?<br>09:54:54 | | 19 | A. Start work for the Guo family. I mean,<br>09:52:00 | 19 | A. In spring of 2018.<br>09:54:59 | | | 20 again, I don't remember this question many years ago. 09:52: 13 | 20 | Q. Okay. Let's go back to Exhibit I. Let me<br>09:55:02 | | 21 As I said -- | 09:52:17 | | 21 know when you have got Exhibit I pulled up, Ms. Wang. 09:55:14 | | 22<br>Q. No. | 09:52: 18 | 22 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:55: 19 | | 23 | You -- you -- you testified that it was<br>09: 5 2: 18 | 23 | Yes. I'm here.<br>09:55:20 | | | 24 a date you'll never forget; so that is why I'm<br>09:52:20 | 24 | Q. Okay. Page numbers again, I'm talking about 09:55:22 | | | 25 pressing you a little bit on it.<br>09:52:25 | | 25 the little page numbers. If you please go to page<br>09:55:25 | | | Page 30 | | Page 32 | | | | | | | I | My question is when did you start working<br>09:52:27 | | I thirty-five.<br>09:55:32 | | | 2 for the Guo family in New York? The transcript here<br>09: 52:32<br>3 seems to suggest that that was in April of 2015, and 09:52:38 | 2 | (Witness complies.)<br>09:55:36<br>A. | | | | 3 | Let me know --<br>09:55:50<br>Q. | | | 4 I'm asking you whether that is accurate.<br>09:52:44<br>Is it accurate? Is it not accurate? Or do<br>09:52:47 | 4 | Yes.<br>09:55:51<br>A.<br>-- when you are there.<br>09:55:52 | | 5 | | 5 | Q. | | 6 you not know? | 09:52:51 | 6 | A.<br>Yes. I'm here.<br>09:55:54 | | 7 | A. April 23rd in 2015. That is the date<br>09:52:52 | 7 | Q. Okay. Take a look on page thirty-five of<br>09:55:55 | | | 8 I never forgot because I left China. I was never --<br>09:53:00 | | 8 Exhibit 1, line ten.<br>09:55:59 | | | 9 I was never able to go back.<br>09:53:03 | 9 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:56:00 | | 10<br>Okay? | 09:53:06 | 10 | Q. The question reads:<br>09:56:05 | | 11 | So that is accurate. When I answered this<br>09:53:07 | 11 | "QUESTION: You said in February of2018 09:56:07 | | | 12 question, I don't believe I have any interpreter help 09:53:10 | 12 | you came to work for Golden Spring<br>09:56:09 | | | 13 me by then; so the question looks like right now<br>09:53: 14 | 13 | (New York)?"<br>09:56:09 | | | 14 reading as when did you move to New York to start<br>09:53:18 | 14 | And your answer was:<br>09:56:13 | | | 15 working for the Guo family? I was not quite<br>09:53:21 | 15 | "ANSWER: Yes."<br>09:56:15 | | | 16 understanding this question withouttranslation by<br>09:53:24 | 16 | Now, my only focus here is on whether<br>09:56:16 | | | 17 then; so if you ask me when I start to work for Guo<br>09:53 :27 | | 17 February of '18 sounds like the correct date to you<br>09:56: 18 | | | 18 family, which I can tell you, I started-- my career 09:53:31 | | 18 of when you started working for Golden Spring<br>09:56:22 | | | 19 started from 2008, but I started to work for Guo<br>09:53:36 | | 19 (New York).<br>09:56:25 | | | 20 family outside of China. That was started from 2015. 09:53:40 | 20 | A. Sir, I replied as in spring of 2018.<br>09:56:28 | | 21 | That is my correct and truthful answer now.<br>09:53:44 | | 21 !mean--<br>09:56:33 | | 22 | Q. And that was in New York City; correct?<br>09:53:47 | 22 | Q. I'm -- I'm not suggesting anything other<br>09:56:36 | | 23 | A. Starting from New York and Hong Kong.<br>09:53:49 | | 23 than whether February is correct.<br>09:56:39 | | 24<br>Q. Okay. | 09:53:53 | 24 | Does that sound about right to you?<br>09:56:42 | | 25 | A. I mean, by then Mr. Qiang Guo, he was in<br>09:54:06 | 25 | A. I don't recall. In spring of 2018. You<br>09:56:46 | | | Page 31 | | Page 33 |

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| | 1 could check on Golden Spring (New York)'s corporation 09:56:49 | 1 whether there was a chauffeur employed at<br>10:00:03 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 book. It should be clearly in there.<br>09:56:54 | 2 Golden Spring (New York) when you started there?<br>10:00:07 | | 3 | Q. Was anyone else working at Golden Spring<br>09:56:56 | A. Sir, I am the witness today-- in my<br>3<br>10:00:12 | | | 4 (New York) when you started there in the spring of<br>09:57:07 | 4 understanding is about bankruptcy. I mean that this<br>10:00:18 | | | 5 2018?<br>09:57:09 | 5 is my task -- this was my testimony how many years<br>10:00:21 | | 6 | A. What do you mean, is there anyone working at 09:57: 10 | 6 ago? Three, four years ago?<br>10:00:27 | | | 7 Golden Spring (New York)?<br>09:57:20 | 7<br>I mean, I could remember by then because<br>10:00:29 | | 8 | Q. Well, you mentioned that you were, I think<br>09:57:21 | 8 that was a relatively closer date. I was deposed in 10:00:32 | | | 9 you said, appointed to Golden Spring in the spring of 09:57:24 | 9 October 2018, as you said. Now it is almost three<br>10:00:37 | | | 10 2018.<br>09:57:29 | 10 and a half, four years after. I mean, just so many<br>10:00:41 | | 11 | My question for you is at the time that you 09:57:32 | 11 years pass by, I couldn't remember that. But since<br>10:00:45 | | | 12 were appointed, were there any other people working<br>09:57:34 | 12 my testimony back to 2018 in here said that, that is<br>10:00:50 | | | 13 for Golden Spring (New York)?<br>09:57:40 | 13 possible. That reminded me. That's right. But that 10:00:54 | | 14 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo, himself.<br>09:57:44 | 14 doesn't mean that after three and a half, four years, 10:00:57 | | 15 | Q. Okay. Andwhatwashisjob?<br>09:57:49 | 15 I still should remember all the details; right? I am 10:01:02 | | 16 | A. He is one of the directors of Golden Spring 09:57:55 | 16 being deposed in here about a bankruptcy.<br>10:01:02 | | | 17 (New York).<br>09:57:59 | 17<br>Am I correct about this?<br>10:01:07 | | 18 | Q. Anyone else?<br>09:57:59 | Q. Well, you are --you are right about one<br>18<br>10:01:09 | | 19 | A. No.<br>09:58:03 | 19 part, and that is that I offered you this information 10:01:11 | | 20 | Just me and himself, when I was appointed.<br>09:58:08 | 20 to see if it would help refresh your memory.<br>10:01:14 | | 21 | Q. So no other employees who worked at<br>09:58:14 | 21<br>And, indeed, that was the question, whether<br>10:01:19 | | | 22 Golden Spring at that time?<br>09: 58: 19 | 22 reading this transcript helps refresh your memory<br>10:01:22 | | 23 | A. I don't recall.<br>09:58:23 | 23 about whether there was a chauffeur working at<br>10:01:25 | | 24 | Q. Do you recall whether there was a chauffeur 09:58:23 | 24 Golden Spring (New York) when you started.<br>10:01:30 | | | 25 who worked for Golden Spring (New York) at that time? 09:58:33 25 | A. I --<br>10:01 :31 | | | Page 34 | Page 36 | | I | A. I don't recall.<br>09:58:35 | MR. ROSEN: At this point, I'm going to<br>10:01:31<br>I | | 2 | Q. Let's take a look at Exhibit 1 again.<br>09:58:35 | 2 instruct the witness not to answer any further<br>10:01:33 | | 3 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:58:41 | 3 questions along these lines.<br>10:01 :36 | | 4 | Q. And this time let's go to page forty.<br>09:58:51 | 4<br>This is a deposition in a contested matter<br>10:01:37 | | 5 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>09:58:55 | 5 for approval ofa DIP financing arrangement in<br>10:01:41 | | 6 | Q. Tell me when you are there.<br>09:59:02 | 6 a bankruptcy case. So far, of the list of30(b)(6)<br>10:01:49 | | 7 | A. Yes, I am.<br>09:59:07 | 7 topics, these questions barely hit on any of these --<br>10:01:52 | | | | | | 8 | Q. Okay. Take a look at line seven. You say:<br>09:59:08 | 8 of the topics, maybe a little bit on the ownership<br>10:01:55 | | 9 | "ANSWER: I remember that there was<br>09:59:24 | 9 structure. You have already covered the officers,<br>10:01:58 | | 10 | a driver. I met a chauffeur, a Korean<br>09:59:25 | 10 employees, and directors, and so far nothing about<br>10:02:02 | | 11 | gentleman, yes."<br>09:59:30 | 11 a DIP loan.<br>10:02:06 | | 12 | And then there is a question:<br>09:59:33 | So I would ask you, if you are going to do<br>12<br>10:02:07 | | 13 | "QUESTION: You believe he was an<br>09:59:35 | 13 a fishing expedition or try and extend litigation<br>10:02:10 | | 14 | employee of Golden Spring before February of 09:59:36 | 14 from other courts here, that! would have to instruct 10:02: 12 | | 15 | '18?"<br>09:59:39 | 15 the witness not to answer.<br>10:02:17 | | 16 | Your answer:<br>09:59:40 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:02:18 | | 17 | "ANSWER: February of 2018, that was he<br>09:59:43 | 17<br>Q. Ms. Wang, just a moment ago you said that<br>10:02: 18 | | 18 | told me by then.<br>09:59:46 | 18 reading this deposition transcript did help you<br>10:02:22 | | 19 | "QUESTION: You met a chauffeur who told 09:59:48 | 19 remember.<br>10:02:26 | | 20 | you that he was an employee of Golden Spring 09:59:50 | And so my question is was there or was there 10:02:26<br>20 | | 21 | (New York)?<br>09:59:53 | 21 not a chauffeur working at Golden Spring (New York)<br>10:02:29 | | 22 | "ANSWER: Yes."<br>09:59:54 | 22 at the time you started there?<br>10:02:32 | | 23 | And then you say that he was the one who<br>09:59:55 | 23<br>A. As my testimony back to 2018 said so, it is<br>10:02:37 | | | 24 picked you up at the airport.<br>09:59:58 | 24 possible. You are helpful, sir.<br>10:02:42 |

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| | 1 New York when you started working at Golden Spring<br>10:03:01 | 1<br>Q. No problem at all.<br>10:06:04 | |----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 (New York)?<br>10:03:03 | 2<br>A. Thank you.<br>10:06:08 | | 3 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. I instruct the<br>10:03:03 | 3<br>Q. So we'll stick with Qiang Guo.<br>10:06:09 | | | 4 witness not to answer.<br>10:03:05 | 4<br>A. Thank you.<br>10:06:14 | | 5 | This has no relevance whatsoever to any of<br>10:03:06 | 5<br>Q. Okay. And you just testified that he is the 10:06:14 | | | 6 the 30(b)(6) deposition topics, none. And the<br>10:03:06 | 6<br>son of Ho Wan Kwok, the debtor; right?<br>10:06:17 | | | 7 purpose of this is strictly to either relitigate or<br>10:03: 12 | 7<br>A. You are right, sir. Yes.<br>10:06:21 | | | 8 extend litigation from other courts or to harass this 10:03: 13 | Q. So my question is was Qiang Guo living in<br>8<br>10:06:22 | | | 9 witness.<br>10:03:17 | 9 New York when you started working at Golden Spring<br>10:06:26 | | | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:03:18 | 10 (New York)?<br>10:06:28 | | 11 | Q. Ms. Wang, do you know who Mileson Kwok is?<br>10:03:18 11 | A. Whatdoyoumean,livinginNewYork,sir?<br>10:06:30 | | 12 | A. Can you spell the name again, sir, please?<br>10:03:25 | 12 Like, I mean, I don't understand. Travel in there.<br>10:06:35 | | 13 | Q. Yes.<br>10:03:28 | 13 I met him in there, yes. I don't understand what you 10:06:38 | | 14 | M-i-1-e-s-o-n Kwok, K-w-o-k.<br>10:03:29 | 14 mean, living in New York.<br>10:06:42 | | 15 | Do you know who that is?<br>10:03:39 | MR. HARBACH: Sunny, perhaps you can help<br>10:06:45<br>15 | | 16 | A. I don't know who you are referring, sir.<br>10:03:41 | 16 me. My question in English would be did<br>10:06:48 | | 17 | Q. Okay. You have mentioned someone who was<br>10:03:43 | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo live in New York at the time you<br>10:06:52 | | | 18 a director of Golden Spring at the time you became<br>10:03:47 | 18 started working at Golden Spring (New York)?<br>10:06:56 | | | 19 a director.<br>10:03:51 | 19<br>Could you please translate that for me?<br>10:06:59 | | 20 | What is that person's name?<br>10:03:52 | 20<br>THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)<br>10:07:36 | | 21 | A. If you refer to Mr. Qiang Guo, the same<br>10:03:56 | 21<br>THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)<br>10:07:36 | | | 22 director when I was appointed, his name is Q-i-a-n-g<br>10:04:01 | 22 I officially started working for Golden Spring<br>10:07:36 | | | 23 G-u-o. His English name is Mileson, M-i-1-e-s-o-n,<br>10:04:08 | 23 (NewYork)in2018. Idon'trecall whether or not<br>10:07:39 | | | 24 and the last name is G-u-o, sir, if that is helpful<br>10:04:20 | 24 Mr. Qiang Guo was living in New York at the time.<br>10:07:41 | | | 25 to you.<br>10:04:25 | 25 Ill | | | Page 38 | Page 40 | | | | | | 1 | Is this the person you are referring?<br>10:04:27 | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:07:46 | | 2 | Q. It -- it is.<br>10:04:29 | Q. Did you see him in New York personally<br>10:07:46<br>2 | | 3 | A. Okay.<br>10:04:29 | 3 around the time that you started working at<br>10:07:54 | | 4 | Q. And--<br>10:04:29 | 4 Golden Spring (New York)?<br>10:07:57 | | 5 | A. I never heard about someone called<br>10:04:30 | 5<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:08:01 | | | 6 Mileson Kwok. I mean, I never heard about this<br>10:04:33 | Q. Have you ever seen Mr. Qiang Guo personally<br>10:08:02<br>6 | | | 7 person.<br>10:04:36 | 7 in New York?<br>10:08: 10 | | 8 | Q. Okay. How is Mileson Guo related to<br>10:04:36 | A. Yes, I did.<br>10:08: 13<br>8 | | | 9 Wengui Guo? And that is spelled W-e-n-g-u-i G-u-o.<br>10:04:45 | 9<br>Q. When was the last time?<br>10:08:14 | | 10 | How are they related, if at all, if you<br>10:04:57 | A. I don't recall.<br>10:08: 18<br>10 | | | 11 know?<br>10:05:00 | Q. Within the last year?<br>10:08:21<br>11 | | 12 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo -- Q-i-a-n-g G-u-o -- he is<br>10:05:00 | 12<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:08:25 | | | 13 the son of Mr. H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k.<br>10:05:07 | 13<br>Q. Within the last five years?<br>10:08:26 | | 14 | Q. And that is H-o W-a-n K-w-o-k; correct?<br>10:05:23 | 14<br>A. Yes.<br>10:08:30 | | 15 | A. You are right, sir.<br>10:05:29 | It was possible.<br>10:08:37<br>15 | | 16 | Q. So for ease of understanding for everyone<br>10:05:30 | 16<br>Q. Was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok living in New York at<br>10:08:38 | | | 17 who is reading this transcript, can we please refer<br>10:05:33 | 17 the time you started working for Golden Spring<br>10:08:47 | | | 18 to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's son as Mileson? Is that okay<br>10:05:36 | 18 (New York)?<br>10:08:49 | | | 19 withyou?<br>10:05:45 | 19<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. This is the same<br>10:08:51 | | 20 | A. No, sir.<br>10:05:46 | 20 issue.<br>10:08:53 | | 21 | I will prefer to stay with Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>10:05:47 | 21<br>I think-- Counsel, could you please explain 10:08:55 | | | 22 The reason because, again, English is not my mother<br>10:05:51 | 22 the relevance of this question to me.<br>10:08:56 | | | 23 language. I do not want to pronounce something which 10:05:54 | 23<br>MR. HARBACH: Well, as you know,<br>10:09:02 | | | 24 was -- which could be misunderstood by everyone here, 10:05:58 | 24 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is the debtor, and it is certainly<br>10:09:03 | | | 25 iflmay.<br>10:06:03 | 25 with- -- within the scope of appropriate topics, in<br>10:09:07 |

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| 1 our view, for me to explore Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's<br>10:09:13 | A. Yes.<br>10: 12:23 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 relationship to Golden Spring (New York), which is<br>10:09: 17 | 2<br>Q. Did you create this document?<br>10: 12:24 | | 3 his putative lender on this DIP loan; so I'm starting 10:09:20 | A. I don't recall. It should be prepared by --<br>3<br>10:12:26 | | 4 with the question about where Mr. Kwok lived at the<br>10:09:29 | 4 I don't recall.<br>10:12:37 | | 5 time the witness started working at Golden Spring<br>10:09:32 | Q. Give me just one moment, please.<br>10:12:37<br>5 | | 6 (New York). That is the relevance.<br>10:09:34 | 6<br>MR. HARBACH: Sorry for the -- the delay,<br>10:13:55 | | 7 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:09:35 | 7 y'all, buthopefullyl'vejustsavedusalittle<br>10:13:58 | | Q. Ms. Wang, what is the answer?<br>10:09:35<br>8 | 8 time.<br>10:14:02 | | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to instruct the<br>10:09:37<br>9 | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:14:04 | | 10 witness not to answer this question. This is --<br>10:09:38 | 10<br>Q. I'm going to ask you to put aside Exhibit 3, 10: 14:05 | | 11 there is no relevance that I can see to disclosing<br>10:09:42 | 11 and I'll come back to that a little later.<br>10:14:08 | | 12 the whereabouts and the present location of parties<br>10:09:44 | 12<br>Okay?<br>10: 14:12 | | 13 here to a DIP loan funding. This is just -- it is<br>I 0:09:48 | A. Yes.<br>10:14:12<br>13 | | 14 just harassment.<br>10:09:53 | I 0: 14: 13<br>14<br>Q. When -- when you were working for | | MR. HARBACH: So you are -- you are<br>10:09:57<br>15 | 15 Golden Spring (Hong Kong), did you have any titles?<br>10:14:28 | | 16 instructing the witness not to answer, Scott?<br>10:09:58 | 16<br>A. I don't recall. Too many years ago.<br>10: 14:35 | | 17<br>MR. ROSEN: Yes, I am.<br>10:10:01 | 17<br>Q. What were your duties at Golden Spring<br>10:14:42 | | MR. HARBACH: Okay.<br>10:10:03<br>18 | 18 (Hong Kong)?<br>10: 14:45 | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:10:03 | 19<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. This -- can you<br>10:14:47 | | 20<br>Q. Ms. Wang, when you started working at<br>10: 10:04 | 20 please point to which topic on 30(b)(6) that<br>10:14:50 | | 21 Golden Spring (New York), what was your title?<br>10: 10:06 | 21 a corporate witness of Golden Spring (New York)that<br>10:14:55 | | 22<br>A. I was -- I am -- I was the -- the president, 10: 10: 11 | 22 this would -- this would be appropriate to?<br>10: 14:59 | | 23 secretary, I believe treasurer also, and director.<br>10:10:16 | 23<br>MR. HARBACH: Again, I'm exploring her<br>10:15:01 | | 24<br>Q. So you said, to make sure I have this right: 10: 10:23 | 24 competency to testify as a representative of<br>10: 15:04 | | 25 President, secretary, treasurer, and director; is<br>10:10:27 | 25 Golden Spring (New York) by reference to her prior<br>I 0: 15 :07 | | Page 42 | Page 44 | | | | | | | | I that correct?<br>10:10:31 | 1 experience and its relationship to her current<br>10:15:10 | | 2<br>A. Correct.<br>10:10:32 | 2 titles<br>10 15 13 | | 3<br>Q. I'm going to show you -- let's call this<br>10: 10:32 | l\1R. ROSEN: I'll let the objection stand.<br>10:15:16<br>3 | | 4 numberthree.<br>10:10:41 | 4<br>But you can answer the question.<br>10:15:19 | | (Deposition Exhibit Number 3<br>10: 10:43<br>5 | 5 BY l\1R. HARBACH:<br>10:15:22 | | was marked for identification.)<br>10: 10 :48<br>6 | 6<br>Q Thequestion,Ms. Wang, was what were your<br>10:15:23 | | MR. HARBACH: Wait for it to get populated.<br>10:10:48<br>7 | 7 duties at Golden Spring (Hong Kong)?<br>10:15:25 | | I'm told it should be there. I have it.<br>10: 11 :27<br>8 | 8<br>A I took instruction from the owner of<br>10:15:28 | | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:11:30 | 9 company, Mr. Qiang Guo, and worked for him.<br>10:15:34 | | 10<br>Q. Ms. Wang, do you have number three?<br>10:11:30 | 10<br>Q Did you -- domg what?<br>10:15:42 | | A. Yes, sir.<br>10:11:34<br>11 | A Doing the task that he request me to do.<br>10.15:46<br>11 | | I have it.<br>10:11:35<br>12 | 12 I don't recall. It is too many years ago.<br>10:15:52 | | 13<br>Q. Okay. Super.<br>10:11:36 | Q You -- you -- you don't recall what your<br>13<br>10:15:54 | | 14<br>Open that -- that one up.<br>10: 11:37<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>10:11:39<br>15 | 14 tasks were?<br>10:15:56<br>15<br>A It is pretty diversified. | | Q. And tell me if you recognize this document.<br>16<br>10: 11:42 | 10:15:58<br>16<br>Q Okay Do you recall whether when you were<br>10:16:04 | | 17<br>A. Yes.<br>10: 11:46 | 17 working for Golden Spring (Hong Kong) you did any<br>10:16:15 | | 18<br>Q. Okay. This is a document that you helped<br>10:11:50 | 18 work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>10: 16:20 | | 19 create and submitted with an affidavit, isn't it?<br>I 0: 11: 57 | 19<br>A I'm sorry.<br>10:16:21 | | | | | 20<br>A. What do you mean I created, sir?<br>10: 12:01<br>Q. Well, let me withdraw that question.<br>10:12:08<br>21 | 20<br>Sir, what is your question?<br>10:16:22<br>21 | | | Q When you were working for Golden Spring<br>10:16:24 | | 22<br>You said that you recognized this document.<br>10:12: 11<br>What is it?<br>10:12: 13<br>23 | 22 Hong Kong, did you do any work for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>10:16:30<br>23<br>A I don't recall.<br>10:16:32 | | 24<br>A. It is a director and officer register.<br>10: 12:14 | 24<br>Q Who appointed you to be president,<br>10:16:33 | | Q. ForGoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited?<br>10:12:19<br>25 | 25 secretary, treasurer, and a director of Golden Spring 10:16:45 |

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| 1 (NewYork)Limited?<br>10:16:51 | Q. The transcript that! just read from was not 10:20:21<br>1 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>A. I was appointed by Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>10:16:52 | 2 a deposition. It was testimony in court, and it was<br>10:20:23 | | 3<br>Q. When he appointed you to those positions,<br>10: 16:56 | 3 in May of 2019.<br>10:20:28 | | 4 what did he tell you your duties would be?<br>10: 17:00 | 4<br>A. Okay.<br>10:20:32 | | A. I was appointed, and he -- he requested me<br>10: 1 7: 03<br>5 | Q. But these -- these appear to have been your<br>10:20:32<br>5 | | 6 to operate -- to run Golden Spring (New York), his<br>10:17:14 | 6 words, and so that is why I asked the question.<br>10:20:35 | | 7 company, as general.<br>10: 17: 19 | 7<br>A. So back to 2019, my testifying -- my<br>10:20:39 | | 8<br>Q. Tell me what you mean by as general.<br>10:17:21 | 8 testimony was correct. I mean, the entire --<br>10:20:44 | | A. I mean any task, assignment as the owner of 10: 17:25<br>9 | 9 Mr. Qiang Guo, his family business, including his<br>10:20:50 | | 10 company, himself, he requested to do that I will work 10:17:34 | 10 employees, were all persecuted. They are either<br>10:20:53 | | 11 for him.<br>10:17:39 | 11 arrested, kidnapped, or disappeared. I was one of<br>10:21 :00 | | Q. When you assumed the role of president,<br>12<br>10:17:40 | 12 the survivor by then. That was correct.<br>10:21:04 | | 13 secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring<br>10: 17:56 | And then when I testified back to 2019,<br>10:21:07<br>13 | | 14 (New York), did you have any financial professional<br>10:18:02 | 14 I said I don't have -- that was -- I am humble;<br>10:21:10 | | 15 knowledge?<br>10:18:05 | 15 right? So that was my testimony-- test- --<br>10:21:18 | | 16<br>A. What do you mean, financial professional<br>10:18:07 | 16 testimony. And then now in 2022, I mean, I could<br>10:21:21 | | 17 knowledge, sir?<br>10:18:14 | 17 learn lots in three years; right?<br>10:21:26 | | 18<br>Q. Let's go back to Exhibit 1.<br>10:18:15 | Q. Of course.<br>18<br>10:21:29 | | A. (Witness complies.)<br>10:18:18<br>19 | A. So--<br>10:21:29<br>19 | | 20<br>Q. Correction. Sorry.<br>10: 18:24 | Q. Of course.<br>20<br>10:21:29 | | Exhibit 2.<br>10:18:27<br>21 | A. -- that doesn't mean I don't have anything<br>21<br>10:21:29 | | 22<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>10:18:28 | 22 for now --<br>10:21:31 | | Q. Page forty-seven.<br>10:18:35<br>23 | Q. Of course.<br>10:21:32<br>23 | | 24<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>10:18:39 | 24<br>A. -- to testify in this bankruptcy, you know,<br>10:21:32 | | 25<br>Q. Actually, you might need to look a bit<br>10: 18:51 | 25 deposition.<br>10:21:35 | | Page 46 | Page 48 | | | | | | Q. Yeah. Iunderstandthat--thatthreeyears 10:21:35<br>I | | I earlier on to forty-six.<br>10:18:55<br>2<br>Tell me when you are there.<br>10: 18:59 | 2 have passed. My question isn't about today.<br>10:21:38 | | A. I am on page forty-six.<br>10:19:01<br>3 | 3<br>My question is about the day when you were<br>10:21 :43 | | Q. Okay. At the bottom of page forty-six there 10:19:03<br>4 | 4 appointed to be president, secretary, treasurer, and<br>10:21:47 | | 5 is an answer that begins -- and it was in response to 10: 19:07 | 5 director of Golden Spring (New York). I'm asking<br>10:21:53 | | 6 a question about some exhibit you were being shown.<br>10: 19: 11 | 6 about that day.<br>10:21:56 | | 7 In the course of your answer, which goes on to page<br>10:19: 15 | And my question is as of that day, did you<br>10:21:59<br>7 | | 8 forty-seven, you say, among other things:<br>10: 19: 19 | 8 have any financial professional knowledge?<br>10:22:03 | | "ANSWER: I am administrator to<br>10:19:22<br>9 | A. What kind of financial professional<br>10:22:08<br>9 | | Golden Spring. This is not my choice because 10: 19:24<br>10 | 10 knowledge you are looking for back to three years<br>10:22:13 | | II<br>Chinese Communist party, they kidnap almost<br>10: 19:27 | 11 ago, sir?<br>10:22:15 | | all my colleague, between me and the company; 10: 19:32<br>12 | 12<br>Q. They were your words, Ms. Wang. You said,<br>10:22: 16 | | so my background, I do not have financial<br>10:19:35<br>13 | 13 I do not have financial professional knowledge.<br>10:22:21 | | professional knowledge. I do not have<br>10:19:38<br>14 | 14 I don't know what you meant. That would be a good<br>10:22:26 | | American real estate professional knowledge." I 0: 19:41<br>15 | 15 question, but it is what you said; so that is why<br>10:22:28 | | And your answer goes on.<br>10: 19:44<br>16 | 16 I used those words in asking you. It is a simple<br>10:22:33 | | 17<br>But I have just read the two sentences that 10: 19:47 | 17 question.<br>10:22:36 | | 18 Iaminterestedinformyquestionbecausemy<br>10:19:49 | All I'm asking is at the time you assumed<br>10:22:38<br>18 | | 19 question to you was when you assumed the roles of<br>10:19:52 | 19 all of those titles at Golden Spring (New York), did<br>10:22:41 | | 20 president, secretary, treasurer, and director of<br>10: 19:55 | 20 you have any financial professional knowledge? Yes<br>10:22:44 | | 21 GoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited,didyouhaveany | 10:20:00 21 orno?<br>10:22:49 | | 22 financial professional knowledge?<br>10:20:04 | A. When I say I didn't-- when I said I don't<br>10:22:54<br>22 | | What is the answer?<br>10:20:10<br>23 | 23 have, as I repeat again, that is our culture -- our<br>10:22:58 | | 24<br>A. These deposition happened in which year,<br>10:20:11 | 24 culture, Chinese culture. I was humble to say<br>10:23:05 | | 25 sir? 2018 or '19?<br>10:20:17 | 25 I don't have professional knowledge.<br>10:23:09 |

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| | Q. I understand.<br>10:23:11 | 1 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family?<br>10:25:46 | |----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | A. English is not my mother language. I do not I 0: 23: 12 | 2<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. Calls for a legal<br>10:25:51 | | | 3 mean that I know nothing about financial, if that is<br>10:23: 15 | 3 conclusion.<br>10:25:52 | | | 4 the answer you are looking for, sir.<br>10:23:20 | You can answer that.<br>10:25:53<br>4 | | 5 | Q. All I'm looking for is the truth, first of<br>10:23:22 | 5<br>THE WITNESS: I need interpreter help me.<br>10:25:56 | | | 6 all.<br>10:23:25 | 6 I don't understand your question, sir.<br>10:25:59 | | 7 | Second, I am not asking you to be humble or<br>10:23:26 | 7<br>MR. HARBACH: Okay. But before we -- before 10:26:01 | | | 8 proud. I'm just asking you to be honest.<br>10:23:31 | 8 we go there -- actually, let -- let's -- Sunny, if<br>10:26:03 | | 9 | A. I am.<br>10:23:34 | 9 you don't mind, I will ask the question again. And<br>10:26:09 | | 10 | Q. So similarly, I mean, you were under oath<br>10:23:34 | 10 I'm -- I'm sorry to refer to you by your first name.<br>10:26: 12 | | | 11 when you testified in court, and I think the<br>10:23:38 | 11 That is unprofessional. Sorry. Ms. Johnston.<br>10:26:15 | | | 12 expectation would have been that you be honest then<br>10:23:40 | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:26:15 | | | 13 as well.<br>10:23:43 | Q. Ms. Wang, the question is in your capacity<br>10:26:20<br>13 | | 14 | A. I was.<br>10:23:44 | 14 as president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,<br>10:26:23 | | 15 | Q. Okay. So I wasn't there that day. All<br>10:23:45 | 15 isn't it true that you serve as an administrator for<br>10:26:30 | | | 16 I have is the transcript. And I'm just being -- I'm<br>10:23:48 | 16 the interests of Mr. Kwok-- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his<br>10:26:35 | | | 17 being honest with you. That is the reason for my<br>10:23:52 | 17 family?<br>10:26:40 | | | 18 question is because I saw that you said that you<br>10:23:54 | 18<br>MR. ROSEN: I'll repeat the objection.<br>10:26:43 | | | 19 don't have any financial professional knowledge.<br>10:23:58 | 19<br>You can answer the question.<br>10:26:46 | | 20 | So I suppose the question is if you were<br>10:24:01 | 20<br>MR. HARBACH: (Interprets question.)<br>10:27:15 | | | 21 just being humble back in 2019, do you mean to say<br>10:24:05 | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: The check<br>10:27:15<br>21 | | | 22 that you, in fact, did have financial professional<br>10:24: 10 | 22 interpreter heard Mr. Kwok and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and<br>10:27:11 | | | 23 knowledge when you were appointed to all of those<br>10:24:14 | 23 his family.<br>10:27:20 | | | 24 positions at Golden Spring? Is that what you were<br>10:24:16 | 24<br>MR. HARBACH: That is correct.<br>10:27:21 | | | 25 trying to say?<br>10:24:20 | 25<br>That was the question.<br>10:27:22 | | | Page 50 | Page 52 | | | | | | | | | | | A. I am not trying to say anything. My<br>10:24:20 | 1<br>THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Yes.<br>10:27:24 | | | 2 testimony-- back to 2019, that was my testimony, and 10:24:23 | 2<br>But not Wengui Guo; right?<br>10:27:25 | | | 3 that -- I stay with that. That is a -- true and<br>10:24:27 | 3<br>MR. HARBACH: That --<br>10:27:29 | | | 4 accurate information, sir. And regarding right now<br>10:24:31 | 4<br>THE INTERPRETER: That is his Mandarin name, 10:27:29 | | | 5 what are you looking for after three years, I do not 10:24:34 | 5 Ho Wan Kwok. The Mandarin is Wengui Guo.<br>10:27:36 | | | 6 understand, and I will do my best to help you.<br>10:24:38 | 6<br>THE CHECK INTERPRETER: But, I mean, the<br>10:27:42 | | 7 | Q. Okay. Same question about the next sentence 10:24:40 | 7 counsel said Ho Wan Kwok.<br>10:27:43 | | | 8 on the transcript, which says:<br>10:24:44 | 8<br>MR. HARBACH: Yes.<br>10:27:45 | | 9 | "I do not have American real estate<br>10:24:46 | 9<br>The reason that counsel said Ho Wan Kwok was 10:27:45 | | 10 | professional knowledge."<br>10:24:49 | 10 because the witness said that is how she knows the<br>10:27:48 | | 11 | Was that true when you said those words in<br>10:24:50 | 11 debtor. I asked her earlier whether she knew the<br>10:27:51 | | | 12 2019?<br>10:24:53 | 12 name Wengui Guo, and she said she knows him as<br>10:27:56 | | 13 | A. It is correct. I am not real -- realtor.<br>10:24:55 | 13 Ho Wan Kwok; so that is why I used that name.<br>10:28:01 | | | 14 I am not a licensed realtor; right? That was<br>10:25:00 | 14<br>THE INTERPRETER: Yes.<br>10:28:03 | | | 15 correct.<br>10:25:03 | 15<br>MR. HARBACH: But we can clear this -- we<br>10:28:05 | | 16 | Q. Okay. So it is correct that at least as of 10:25:06 | 16 can clear this up now, Ms. Wilkinson.<br>10:28:06 | | | 17 May of2019 you did not have American real estate<br>10:25:09 | 17<br>THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Okay.<br>10:28:08 | | | 18 professional knowledge --<br>10:25: 14 | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:28:08 | | 19 | A. Correct.<br>10:25:15 | Q. Ms. Wang,whatnamewouldyouprefertouse<br>19<br>10:28:08 | | 20 | Q. -- correct?<br>10:25: 16 | 20 going forward to refer to Mr. Qiang Guo's father?<br>10:28: 12 | | 21 | A. I don't have a license at all by then.<br>10:25: 16 | 21<br>A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>10:28:18 | | 22 | Q. Next question.<br>10:25: 19 | 22<br>Q. Very good.<br>10:28:19 | | 23 | Is it true that in your capacity as<br>10:25 :29 | 23<br>A. That is the debtor; right? That is the<br>10:28:20 | | | 24 president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited you<br>10:25:36<br>25 serve as an administrator for the interests of<br>10:25:42 | 24 debtor's name.<br>10:28:21<br>25<br>Am I right.<br>10:28:23 |

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| Q. You are right. That is correct. | Q. Is that your signature on the top right of | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 10:28:24 | 10:31: 15 | | 2<br>A. Let's go with it, yeah. Uh-huh.<br>10:28:25 | 2 Exhibit 4?<br>10:31:19 | | 3<br>Q. So would you like Ms. Johnston to repeat the 10:28:27 | 3<br>A. Sorry, sir.<br>10:31:25 | | 4 question in Chinese for you, ma'am?<br>10:28:30 | 4<br>You mean Exhibit 4; right?<br>10:31:26 | | A. Yes, please. | Q. Yes, sir -- or excuse me. Yes, ma'am. | | 10:28:32 | 10:31 :28 | | 5 | 5 | | Q. Okay. | A. Okay. I opened the wrong one. | | 10:28:34 | 10:31:33 | | 6 | 6 | | THE INTERPRETER: Mr. Harbach, can you just 10:28:37<br>7 | 7<br>Q. Okay.<br>10:31:35 | | 8 repeat the question one more time, please.<br>10:28:39 | A. So let me go back.<br>10:31 :35<br>8 | | 9<br>MR. HARBACH: Sure. No problem.<br>10:28:42 | 9<br>Exhibit 4, you mean the director and officer 10:31:37 | | THE INTERPRETER: Just so you know, the<br>10:28:46<br>10 | 10 register?<br>10:31:40 | | 11 interpreter does not speak Cantonese; so I will just 10:28:48 | Q. No. No. No.<br>10:31:41<br>11 | | 12 re- -- I will just say the name the way you pronounce 10:28:53 | 12<br>A. Okay. That's --<br>10:31:44 | | 13 it instead of saying the Mandarin name.<br>10:28:54 | Q. This is the one that says exhibit, and then<br>10:31:44<br>13 | | MR. HARBACH: Okay. That -- that's fine.<br>10:28:57<br>14 | 14 it has the number next to it, four.<br>10:31:47 | | 15 And, obviously, I speak neither; so I will rely on<br>10:28:59 | 15<br>A. Okay.<br>10:31:50 | | 16 you all.<br>10:29:02 | 16<br>Q. So when you open that up, the first page<br>10:31:51 | | 17 BY MR. HARBACH: | 17 says affidavit of Yan Ping Wang. | | 10:29:03 | 10 :31: 54 | | Q. So here is the question. | Let me know if you have the right document. | | 10:29:03 | 18 | | 18 | 10:31:58 | | In your capacity as president of | 19 | | 19 | A. Yes. | | 10:29:05 | 10:32:01 | | 20 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, isn't it true that<br>10:29:07 | 20<br>Q. Good.<br>10:32:01 | | 21 you serve as an administrator for the interests of | Now go to the last page of it, please. That 10:32:02 | | 10:29: 12 | 21 | | 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his family? | 22 is page three. | | 10:29: 18 | 10:32:05 | | MR. ROSEN: Objection. | 23 | | 10:29:23 | A. (Witness complies.) | | 23 | 10:32:06 | | 24 | 24 | | You may answer. | Yes. | | 10:29:25 | 10:32:06 | | THE WITNESS: (Through Interpreter) Well, | 25 | | 10:29:59 | Q. My question to you is is that signature on | | 25 | 10:32:07 | | Page 54 | Page 56 | | 1 first of all, I don't know what you meant by the word 10:30:07 | 1 the top right-hand corner of page three of Exhibit 4<br>10:32:12 | | | | | | | | 2 administrator. | 2 yours? | | 10:30:10 | 10:32: 16 | | 3 | 3 | | And, second, I worked for Mr. Qiang Guo. | A. Yes. | | 10:30: 11 | 10:32:17 | | MR. HARBACH: Is that the end of the answer, 10:30:22<br>4 | Q. Okay. Nowlet'sgobacktopageone.<br>4<br>10:32:18 | | 5 Ms. Johnston?<br>10:30:23 | 5<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>10:32:21 | | THE INTERPRETER: Yes, it was. | 6 | | 10:30:25 | Q. And you can see that this is an affidavit | | 6 | 10:32:21 | | 7<br>MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you.<br>10:30:27 | 7 that you signed and that was filed in the<br>10:32:26 | | 8 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:30:28 | 8 Supreme Court of the State of New York on May 16th of 10:32:28 | | Q. Let's take a look now at Exhibit 4.<br>10:30:28<br>9 | 9 2018.<br>10:32:32 | | 10 | Do you see that? | | (Deposition Exhibit Number 4 | 10:32:34 | | 10:30:31 | 10 | | was marked for identification.) | A. Yes. | | 10:30:35 | 10:32:35 | | 11 | 11 | | 12 | 12 | | THE WITNESS: (Witness complies.) | Q. Okay. Now, I also note that on page | | 10:30:35 | 10:32:40 | | 13 BY MR. HARBACH: | 13 three -- sorry to keep jerking you around. | | 10:30:57 | 10:32:43 | | 14 | 14 | | Q. Okay. I have got it, Ms. Wang. I hope you | Could you please go to page three. | | 10:30:57 | 10:32:47 | | 15 do too.<br>10:31:00 | A. The last page; right?<br>10:32:50<br>15 | | 16 | Q. Yes, ma'am. | | A. (InEnglish) Yes. | 16 | | 10:31:01 | 10:32:54 | | 17 | 17 | | I am here. | A. (Witness complies.) | | 10:31:03 | 10:32:55 | | 18 | Yes. | | Q. Very good. | 10:32:55 | | 10:31:04 | 18 | | Open up Exhibit 4, please. | I am here. | | 10:31:05 | 10:32:56 | | 19 | 19 | | 20 | 20 | | A. Yes. | Q. You will see above the notary public's | | 10:31:07 | 10:32:56 | | Q. And the first thing I want to do is go to<br>10:31:07<br>21 | 21 signature that it indicates that it was sworn on<br>10:32:59 | | 22 the very last page. | 22 May 15th of 2018. | | 10:31: 10 | 10:33:02 | | 23 | Do you see that there? | | A. (Witness complies.) | 10:33:04 | | 10:31: 12 | 23 | | 24 | 24 | | Q. Areyouthere? | A. Yes. | | 10:31:14 | 10:33:05 | | 25 | 25 | | A. Yes. | Q. Okay. Now go back to page one for me. | | 10:31:15 | 10:33:08 |

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| 1<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>10:33:11 | 1 information as best of my capacity and as best of my<br>10: 36: 11 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>Q. Tell me when you are there.<br>10:33: 14 | 2 knowledge --<br>10:36: 15 | | 3<br>A. Yes.<br>10:33:17 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:36: 16 | | Q. The very first sentence of your dep- --<br>10:33: 18<br>4 | Q. Okay.<br>10:36:16<br>4 | | 5 excuse me. Of this affidavit says:<br>10:33:23 | A. -- is what I can say.<br>10:36: 16<br>5 | | "I am the president of Golden Spring<br>10:33:26<br>6 | Q. Okay.<br>10:36:18<br>6 | | 7<br>(New York) Limited, and in that capacity<br>10:33:28 | 7<br>A. I don't know what you are looking for.<br>10:36:18 | | 8<br>serve as an administrator for the interests<br>10:33:32 | 8 I mean, if you are looking for words in the<br>10:36:20 | | of the defendant sued herein as Kwok Ho<br>10:33:35<br>9 | 9 dictionary, I don't know what you are looking for.<br>10:36:22 | | Wan"--<br>10:33:35<br>10 | Q. I'm asking you if you know what an affidavit 10:36:24<br>10 | | II<br>And then there follows several akas.<br>10:33:42 | 11 is.<br>10:36:27 | | | | | -- "and his family," period.<br>10:33:46<br>12 | A. Affidavit is a legal paperwork.<br>10:36:28<br>12 | | Do you see that sentence?<br>10:33:48<br>13 | Q. Okay. And do you understand that an<br>10:36:30<br>13 | | 14<br>A. Yes.<br>10:33:52 | 14 affidavit is a piece of legal paperwork where<br>10:36:34 | | Q. So I'll ask you to tell me what being an<br>10:33:52<br>15 | 15 a person provides testimony that is sworn under oath? 10:36:38 | | 16 administrator of the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and 10:34:00 | 16<br>A. Yes.<br>10:36:46 | | 17 his family means, because they are your words.<br>10:34: 12 | 17<br>Q. Okay. And you told me a moment ago you --<br>10:36:47 | | 18<br>A. This is drafted by the attorneys also; so in 10:34:16 | 18 actually, I want to be fair.<br>10:36:51 | | 19 my understanding, an administrator, these words --<br>10:34:20 | 19<br>You don't -- you don't know how many<br>10:36:54 | | 20 as, again, I am not native speaker at all -- means<br>10:34:25 | 20 affidavits you may have done in the past; is that<br>10:36:56 | | 21 that I work for Golden Spring and take instruction<br>10:34:30 | 21 correct?<br>10:37:01 | | 22 from owner of Golden Spring to work out the<br>10:34:32 | 22<br>A. I don't recall. Like, why should I recall<br>10:37:02 | | 23 assignment and task Golden Spring request me to do is 10:34:39 | 23 how many of them? I mean --<br>10:37:08 | | 24 what I mean in here.<br>10:34:43 | 24<br>Q. I'm not -- I'm not suggesting --<br>10:37:10 | | Q. How many affidavits do you think you have<br>10:34:44<br>25 | 25<br>A. I don't work in a law firm; right?<br>10:37: 12 | | Page 58 | Page 60 | | | | | | Q. I'mnot--<br>I | | I signed in your lifetime?<br>10:34:48 | 10:37:14 | | 2<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:34:50 | A. So why should I recall?<br>10:37: 14<br>2 | | 3<br>Q. More than five?<br>10:34:52 | 3<br>Q. I'm not suggesting whether you should or you 10:37: 16 | | 4<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:34:55 | 4 shouldn't. All I'm asking is whether you know how<br>10:37:19 | | 5<br>Q. More than twenty-five?<br>10:34:57 | 5 many affidavits you have prepared in your life.<br>10:37:23 | | 6<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:34:59 | 6<br>And I understood your answer to be that you<br>10:37:26 | | 7<br>Q. Maybe more than fifty?<br>10:35:01 | 7 do not know; is that right?<br>10:37:29 | | 8<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:35:04 | 8<br>A. Sir, now you are asking in my life. I don't 10:37:31 | | 9<br>Q. Do you know what -- what an affidavit is?<br>10:35:08 | 9 recall. That is my answer.<br>10:37:36 | | 10<br>A. What do you mean, do I know what affidavit<br>10:35: 12 | 10<br>Q. Okay. That is fine. That is all I'm<br>10:37:38 | | II is?<br>10:35:17 | 11 asking.<br>10:37:41 | | Q. Do you know what an affidavit is? Do you<br>10:35: 18<br>12 | You have told me that you understand an<br>10:37:43<br>12 | | 13 know what the word means?<br>10:35:20 | 13 affidavit to be a legal document where a person<br>10:37:46 | | 14<br>A. I don't understand your question.<br>10:35:23 | 14 provides testimony that is sworn under oath; is that<br>10:37:51 | | MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, can you please<br>10:35:30<br>15 | 15 right?<br>10:37:55 | | 16 translate.<br>10:35:33 | 16<br>A. The sentence which you read me through, this 10:37:58 | | Do you know what an affidavit is?<br>10:35:34<br>17 | 17 was I signed back to 2018. And then now as<br>10:38:01 | | THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)<br>10:35:47<br>18 | 18 April 2020 [sic] of course I couldn't remember that,<br>10:38:08 | | 19<br>THE WITNESS: So I don't understand your<br>10:35:47 | 19 like, four years ago almost.<br>10:38:15 | | 20 question. All I have done in that I work for<br>10:35:58 | Q. But--<br>20<br>10:38:17 | | 21 GoldenSpring(NewYork)Limited. Iamnotnative<br>10:36:01 | 21<br>A. But I do know that that is a legal<br>10:38:17 | | 22 speaker. I am definitely not legal person either;<br>10:36:01 | 22 paperwork. I gave all my truthful and honest<br>10:38: 19 | | 23 right?<br>10:36:01 | 23 information in that paperwork. This I am testifying<br>10:38:22 | | 24<br>So like, I just to be here, and then what<br>10:36:06 | 24 right now.<br>10:38:25 | | 25 being before there to tell the legal all the truthful 10:36:07 | 25<br>Q. Okay. And so when you signed this affidavit 10:38:26 |

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| | 1 in May of 2018, it was truthful when you signed it;<br>10:38:29 | 1 is not my native language, yes. I signed affidavit<br>10:41:45 | |----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 is that correct?<br>10:38:39 | 2 back to 2018. That is a truthful information as best 10:41:50 | | 3 | A. When I signed and I gave all my truthful<br>10:38:41 | 3 ofmy knowledge. By then, when I signed my name in<br>10:41:53 | | | 4 information.<br>10:38:47 | 4 there, yes.<br>10:41:57 | | 5 | Q. Was this --this affidavit that is Exhibit 4 10:38:49 | I'm testifying right now to explain and let<br>10:41:58<br>5 | | | 6 that we're looking at, was it true when you signed it 10:38:53 | 6 you know all of those yes and no, that is my truthful 10:42:02 | | | 7 and swore to it?<br>10:38:58 | 7 testimony by now, yes. This is all my yes and no<br>10:42:06 | | 8 | A. I signed affidavit back to 2018 of this<br>10:39:03 | 8 answer, sir.<br>10:42: 10 | | | 9 one. That is my best and truthful knowledge and<br>10:39:07 | Q. At the time that you signed Exhibit 4, did<br>10:42:11<br>9 | | | 10 information I gave.<br>10:39: 12 | 10 you understand it?<br>10:42:14 | | 11 | Q. Is that a "yes"?<br>10:39:14 | A. Understand what?<br>10:42:18<br>11 | | 12 | A. I answered your question, sir, already.<br>10:39: 17 | Q. Did you understand what you were signing?<br>12<br>10:42: 19 | | 13 | Q. Well, I'm going to ask it one more time.<br>10:39:20 | A. The affidavit.<br>10:42:22<br>13 | | | 14 I think you may have, but I want to ask it one more<br>10:39:24 | 14<br>Q. Were you able to read it and understand what 10:42:24 | | | 15 time just to make sure we are clear.<br>10:39:28 | 15 it said?<br>10:42:27 | | 16 | Was this affidavit-- that is, Exhibit 4 --<br>10:39:30 | A. I don't understand your question. What --<br>10:42:31<br>16 | | | 17 true at the time that you signed it?<br>10:39:32 | 17 you are asking my recollection back to 2018?<br>10:42:35 | | 18 | A. What do you mean, at the time when I signed<br>10:39:37 | Q. You--<br>18<br>10:42:38 | | | 19 it? I mean, I signed it as true back in 2018.<br>10:39:46 | 19<br>A. I don't recall.<br>10:42:38 | | 20 | Q. Right<br>10:39:51 | 20<br>Q. You don't recall whether when you signed<br>10:42:38 | | 21 | And-- and here's the --here's the problem. 10:39:51 | 21 this affidavit you understood what it said?<br>10:42:41 | | | 22 Just a few minutes ago, when I asked you about the<br>10:39:55 | 22<br>A. It is four years ago, sir. I don't recall<br>10:42:46 | | | 23 first sentence of Exhibit 4, you said something about 10:39:59 | 23 the details by then.<br>10:42:49 | | | 24 this document being prepared by lawyers and that<br>10:40:02 | 24<br>Q. Do you make a habit of signing affidavits<br>10:42:51 | | | 25 English isn't your first language and that -- and so<br>10:40:06 | 25 under oath when you don't understand what they say --<br>10:42:55 | | | Page 62 | Page 64 | | | | | | | I that is why I'm asking these questions so that I can<br>10:40: 12 | I with- -- withdrawn.<br>10:42:58 | | | 2 understand whether what is written on the page here<br>10 :40: 15 | 2<br>MR. HARBACH: Scott, you don't have to<br>10:43:01 | | | 3 is your truthful testimony or not.<br>10:40: 19 | 3 object.<br>10:43:02 | | 4 | A. So<br>10:40:27 | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>10:43:03 | | 5 | Q. All I can do is ask you -- let me finish my<br>10:40:29 | Q. Do you recall whether this affidavit was<br>10:43:04<br>5 | | | 6 question.<br>10:40:33 | 6 translated for you?<br>10:43:06 | | 7 | I don't know what is in your brain. All<br>10:40:33 | 7<br>A. I don't recall. Again, like, it is three or 10:43:07 | | | 8 I can do is ask questions. You have told me that you 10:40:36 | 8 four years ago. I don't recall.<br>10:43:11 | | | 9 signed this document. You have told me that you<br>10:40:39 | 9<br>Q. When was the last affidavit that you<br>10:43: 16 | | | 10 understand it is an affidavit. You have told me what 10:40:41 | 10 executed, approximately?<br>10:43:26 | | | 11 you understand an affidavit to be.<br>10:40:45 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>10:43:28<br>11 | | 12 | And so now all I'm asking you is whether<br>10:40:50 | 12<br>We -- we have really got to move on, David.<br>10:43:30 | | | 13 this particular affidavit was true when you signed<br>10:40:53 | 13 This is --<br>10:43:34 | | | 14 it. That is a yes, no, I don't know, or I don't<br>10:40:59 | 14<br>MR. HARBACH: Listen, now, Scott. This is<br>10:43:35 | | | 15 remember question.<br>10:41:06 | 15 nothing personal, obviously. I would love nothing<br>10:43:38 | | 16 | A. This is several questions, sir. I cannot<br>10:41: 11 | 16 more than to move on, but I'm just trying to get the<br>10:43:40 | | | 17 only answer one yes or one no.<br>10:41: 14 | 17 witness to adopt what she swore to three years ago.<br>I 0:43 :44 | | 18 | Q. Sure you can. Itisasinglequestion. The 10:41:17 | MR.ROSEN: Allright. Howisthatrelevant 10:43:51<br>18 | | | 19 answer can be either yes, it could beno, it could be 10:41:21 | 19 to the 30(6)(6) deposition topics today?<br>10:43:53 | | | 20 I don't know, or it could be I don't remember.<br>10:41:25 | 20<br>MR. HARBACH: Oh, because it is squarely<br>10:43:56 | | 21 | A. The affidavit --<br>10:41 :32 | 21 within what her job is as president of Golden Spring<br>10:43:58 | | 22 | Q. Do you need me to ask the question one more<br>10:41 :33 | 22 (New York). That is 100 percent within the scope of 10:44:02 | | | 23 time?<br>10:41:36 | 23 what we're talking about here. She has told us about 10:44:05 | | 24 | A. The affidavit, which I signed back to 2018,<br>I 0:41 :36 | 24 all the titles that she has, and I'm exploring what<br>10:44:09 |

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| | 1 her job is what we have read several times, and now<br>10:44: 16 | 1 (New York), you served as an administrator for the<br>11 :01 :57 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 she doesn't want to answer that. She doesn't want to 10:44:20 | 2 interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and his family?<br>11:02:01 | | | 3 own that; so I'm going to stop arguing, but it is<br>10:44:23 | 3<br>A. Yes.<br>11:02:07 | | | 4 plainly relevant. Plainly relevant.<br>10:44:27 | As the language read in my affidavit, yes.<br>11:02:13<br>4 | | 5 | You can instruct her not to answer. You can 10:44:30 | Q. Do you recall what you meant by an<br>11:02:16<br>5 | | | 6 instruct her not to answer any question that mentions 10:44:33 | 6 administrator for the interests of Mr. Kwok Ho Wan<br>11:02:45 | | | 7 Ho Wan Kwok if you want. But I'm going to stay right 10:44:36 | 7 and his family?<br>11 :02:49 | | | 8 here until I understand what was in this witness'<br>10:44:39 | 8<br>A. The language in this affidavit was drafted<br>11 :02:51 | | | 9 head when she signed this affidavit.<br>10:44:42 | 9 by attorney, and, in my understanding,<br>11 :02:57 | | 10 | MR. ROSEN: Well, I think you have -- you<br>10:44:44 | 10 Golden Spring -- as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction,<br>11:03:03 | | | 11 have pretty much established on the record that what<br>10:44:46 | 11 Golden Spring, like, pay Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, like, his<br>11:03:10 | | | 12 you are going for has nothing to do with this DIP<br>10:44:50 | 12 lifestyle and then et cetera; so that was my<br>11 :03: 17 | | | 13 loan.<br>10:44:52 | 13 understanding.<br>11:03 :21 | | 14 | So I am going to instruct the witness not to 10:44:52 | Q. That was your understanding of your role?<br>14<br>11:03:22 | | | 15 answer this question.<br>10:44:55 | 15 Because that was what my question was about.<br>11:03:27 | | 16 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. I think we should take<br>10:44:56 | A. My role as president of Golden Spring or<br>16<br>11:03:31 | | | 17 a little break because, among other things, I need to 10:44:59 | 17 administrator?<br>11 :03 :35 | | | 18 go to the restroom.<br>10:45:01 | Q. Well, you have stated that as president, you 11:03:36<br>18 | | 19 | So can we please, Mr. Videographer, take ten 10:45:03 | 19 served as an administrator of Mr. Kwok<br>11:03:42 | | | 20 minutes.<br>10:45:06 | 20 Ho Wan's interests.<br>11:03:46 | | 21 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the<br>10:45:06 21 | And so I'm asking about whether what you<br>11:03:50 | | | 22 record.<br>10:45:08 | 22 just described was your role in May of 2018.<br>11:03:54 | | 23 | The time is 10:45.<br>10:45:08 | A. I am the president of Golden Spring. I took 11 :04:0 I<br>23 | | 24 | (Short recess taken.)<br>10:45:10 | 24 instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo and served as an<br>11:04:05 | | 25 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the<br>11 :00:21<br>Page 66 | 25 administrator -- administrator for his father.<br>11:04:09<br>Page 68 | | | | | | | | | | | I record.<br>11 :00:23 | 1<br>Q. And was that true from the moment you began<br>11 :04: 13 | | 2 | The time is 11 :00 o'clock.<br>11:00:23 | 2 working at Golden Spring?<br>11 :04: 17 | | | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:00:31 | 3<br>A. Oh, sir, the moment -- again, you are asking 11:04:21 | | 4 | Q. Ms. Wang, before the break I was asking you<br>11 :00:35 | 4 the time; right?<br>11:04:25 | | | 5 about Exhibit 4, which is an affidavit that you<br>11:00:37 | Q. Well, I'm asking whether what you just<br>5<br>11:04:27 | | | 6 signed in May of 2018.<br>11:00:43 | 6 described as your duties as an administrator, was<br>11:04:31 | | 7 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, I confess, I do not<br>11:00:48 | 7 that true from the beginning, from when you first<br>11:04:38 | | | 8 recall whether where we left off was with your<br>11:00:51 | 8 started working at Golden Spring (New York)?<br>11:04:40 | | | 9 instructing the witness not to answer my question--<br>11:00:54 | 9<br>A. When I started working for Golden Spring<br>11 :04:42 | | | 10 any more questions about this. And let me -- and let 11:01:00 | 10 (New York), I did take instruction from Mr. Qiang Guo 11:04:52 | | | 11 me just -- let me say before you answer that if you<br>11:01:04 | 11 to -- to serve, as I said, as administrator for his<br>11:04:54 | | | 12 let me answer one or two -- ask one or two more, I'll 11:01:07 | 12 father.<br>11:05:00 | | | 13 move on.<br>11:01:13 | Q. And so that would have been in the spring of 11 :05 :00<br>13 | | 14 | MR. ROSEN: I appreciate that, and yeah.<br>11:01:14 | 14 2018, when you started working for Golden Spring<br>11:05:04 | | | 15 Please -- I'll instruct the witness at this time to<br>11 :01:18 | 15 (New York); is that right?<br>11:05:07 | | | 16 answer the question.<br>11:01:22 | 16<br>A. Correct, sir.<br>11 :05: 10 | | 17 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Thank you.<br>11:01:24 | 17<br>Q. And how frequently did you communicate with<br>11:05:11 | | | 18 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:01:25 | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo during that time, say the spring of<br>11:05:16 | | 19 | Q. So Ms. Wang, do you still have Exhibit 4 in<br>11:01:25 | 19 2018?<br>11:05:22 | | | 20 front of you?<br>11:01:30 | A. I don't recall, but I do believe we -- we<br>20<br>11:05:24 | | 21 | A. Exhibit4? Yes, sir. Yes.<br>11:01:32 | 21 talk as needed.<br>11:05:29 | | 22 | Q. Okay. So again, reminding you that this<br>11:01:38 | 22<br>Q. Okay. Once a day?<br>11:05:30 | | | 23 affidavit was signed in May 2018.<br>11:01:41 | A. I don't recall.<br>11:05:35<br>23 | | 24 | My question for you is is it true that in<br>11:01:45 | 24<br>Q. Okay. Do you recall whether you talked to<br>11:05:36 | | | 25 May of 2018, as president of Golden Spring<br>11:01:51<br>Page 67 | 25 him once a week?<br>11:05:39<br>Page 69 |

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| 1 | A. I don't recall. As I said, we just talk as<br>11:05 :43 | | 1 Golden Spring (New York) in New York City in 2018,<br>11:09: 15 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 needed. If, you know, we need to talk, we just talk. 11 :05 :47 | | 2 did you reside in the same location as<br>11:09:21 | | 3 | Q. Okay.<br>11:05:51 | | 3 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:09:24 | | 4 | A. I don't, like, calculate, yeah.<br>11:05:52 | 4 | A. I lived in New York.<br>11:09:33 | | 5 | Q. No. I understand.<br>11:05:54 | 5 | Q. Did you reside -- again, I'm not talking<br>11:09:34 | | 6 | And I don't mean to be asking for a precise<br>11 :05:56 | | 6 aboutnow.<br>11:09:41 | | | 7 calculation. I'm just trying to get a sense of how<br>11 :05:58 | 7 | I'm talking about in 2018, when you started<br>11 :09:41 | | | 8 often you talked to him.<br>11:06:02 | | 8 working at Golden Spring (New York), did you reside<br>11:09:46 | | 9 | When you talked to him, meaning<br>11:06:03 | | 9 in the same dwelling as Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:09:51 | | | 10 Mr. Qiang Guo, did you speak by phone? in person?<br>11:06:06 | 10 | A. Sir, what do you mean by dwelling? Do you<br>11:10:00 | | | 11 a mix?<br>11:06:12 | | 11 mean--<br>11: 10:03 | | 12 | A. Both.<br>11:06:15 | 12 | Q. A house.<br>11:10:03 | | 13 | Q. Okay. Hang on one second, please. Sorry<br>11:06:22 | 13 | A. Is it --<br>11:10:04 | | | 14 for the holdup.<br>11:06:58 | 14 | Q. Is it a house? an apartment? It doesn't<br>11:10:05 | | 15 | How often did you communicate with<br>11:07:01 | | 15 matter.<br>11:10:09 | | | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok in the spring of2018 to fulfill your 11:07:07 | 16 | Did you live in the same home as<br>11: 10:09 | | | 17 role, as you have described it?<br>11:07:13 | | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:10:12 | | 18 | A. I don't recall.<br>11:07:17 | 18 | A. No.<br>11:10:12 | | 19 | Q. Did you ever communicate with him?<br>11:07: 18 | 19 | Q. Have you ever been to the -- withdrawn.<br>11:10:19 | | 20 | A. Yes.<br>11:07:23 | 20 | Have you ever lived in the eighteenth floor<br>11: 10:22 | | 21 | We did communicate.<br>11:07:26 | | 21 apartment of the Sherry-Netherland?<br>11:10:29 | | 22 | Q. And was that in person?<br>11:07:27 | 22 | A. I visited there, sir.<br>11:10:33 | | 23 | A. Yes.<br>11 :07:31 | 23 | Q. Fair enough.<br>11: 10:36 | | 24 | In person.<br>11 :07:33 | 24 | I'm asking whether you have ever resided<br>11: I 0:36 | | 25 | Q. Okay. And how frequently?<br>11 :07:33 | | 25 there.<br>11:10:40 | | | Page 70 | | Page 72 | | | | | | | | | | | | I | A. I don't recall.<br>11:07:37 | | A. What do you mean, reside? As in, like,<br>11: 10:40 | | 2 | Q. Okay. More than one a week?<br>11:07:40 | | 2 my -- my home? No.<br>11:10:45 | | 3 | A. Sir, you are asking back to 2018, when<br>11:07:45 | 3 | Q. Okay. Have you ever stayed there for--<br>11:10:47 | | | 4 I start work for Golden Spring?<br>11:07:51 | 4 | MR. HARBACH: And, Scott, this is my last<br>11:10:52 | | 5 | lam.<br>Q. Yes. Yes, ma'am.<br>11:07:54 | | 5 one.<br>11:10:54 | | 6 | A. Oh, I don't recall.<br>11:07:57 | | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11: 10:55 | | 7 | Q. Okay. Let's see.<br>11:07:58 | 7 | Q. Haveyoueverstayedthereformorethan<br>11:10:55 | | 8 | Oh, thank you.<br>MR. HARBACH:<br>11:08:26 | | 8 a couple of weeks?<br>11: 10:58 | | | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:08:26 | 9 | A. I don't recall.<br>11: 10:59 | | 10 | Q. My colleague reminds me, I meant to ask this 11:08:28 | 10 | Q. Okay. Can we turn now to -- back to<br>11: 11 :00 | | | 11 question.<br>11:08:32 | | 11 Exhibit I.<br>11:11:20 | | 12 | When you started working at Golden Spring<br>11:08:32 | 12 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>11:11:22 | | | 13 (New York) in New York City, where did you reside?<br>11:08:37 | 13 | Q. Tell me when you have got it up, Ms. Wang.<br>11 :11 :28 | | | 14 I don't mean the --the exact address, but where did<br>11:08:41 | 14 | A. Yes, I am.<br>11:11:35 | | | 15 you reside?<br>11 :08:45 | 15 | Q. Okay. The cover page, just to help you<br>11: 11 :36 | | 16 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. There are security<br>11:08:47 | | 16 orient yourself, is dated October 11th, 2018, which<br>11:11:44 | | | 17 reasons that Ms. Wang does not want to give<br>11:08:51 | | 17 was the date of this deposition.<br>11:11:49 | | | 18 a residence address.<br>11:08:54 | 18 | Okay?<br>11:11:52 | | 19 | Are you talking about a city or -- something 11:08:57 | 19 | A. Yes.<br>11:11:54 | | | 20 as general as a city or are you talking address?<br>11:09:00 | 20 | Q. All right. And so that is approximately --<br>11: 11 :54 | | 21 | MR. HARBACH: I'll -- I'll try and ask the<br>11:09:05 | | 21 I don't know -- six months after you started working<br>11:12:00 | | | 22 question in a way that avoids those concerns, Scott.<br>11 :09:07 | | 22 at Golden Spring (New York)?<br>11: 12:03 | | 23 | MR. ROSEN: Thank you.<br>11:09:11 | 23 | A. And -- yes. Kind of<br>11:12:11 | | | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:09:12 | 24 | Q. You said you started working in the spring<br>11:12:13 | | 25 | Q. Ms. Wang, when you started working at<br>11:09:12 | | 25 of2018; so approximately six months.<br>11:12:16 |

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| 1 | Is that fair?<br>11:12:19 | 1 was accurate.<br>11:14:41 | |----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | A. Yes.<br>11: 12:20 | 2<br>Q. Okay.<br>11:14:42 | | 3 | Q. Okay. So let's go to page sixty.<br>11:12:21 | A. The testimony right now, after I was<br>11:14:43<br>3 | | 4 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>11: 12:32 | 11:14:45<br>4 corrected, is accurate also, sir. | | 5 | Q. And, again, looking at the little pages.<br>11: 12:33 | Q. I see.<br>11:14:48<br>5 | | | 6 Tell me when you are there.<br>11: 12:45 | And so the -- the correction concerned his<br>11: 14:49<br>6 | | 7 | A. Yes.<br>11: 12:50 | 7 name; right?<br>11:14:51 | | 8 | Q. Okay. The very top of page sixty there is<br>11: 12:50 | 8<br>A. Yes.<br>11:14:52 | | | 9 a -- the tail end of a question and then a question<br>11: 12:54 | Mr. Qiang Guo's name.<br>11: 14:53<br>9 | | | 10 that begins on line two:<br>11: 12:57 | Q. Okay.<br>10<br>11:14:55 | | II | "QUESTION: Do you know Mileson Kwok?"<br>11 :13:00 | A. That is reason why I am insisting calling<br>11:14:56<br>11 | | 12 | Your answer is:<br>11:13:04 | 12 him Mr. Qiang Guo; right?<br>11:15:00 | | 13 | "ANSWER: Yes."<br>11:13:05 | 13<br>So that is the accurate -- you know, his<br>11:15:00 | | 14 | The question:<br>11:13:06 | 14 official name.<br>11: 15:04 | | 15 | "QUESTION: Is that Mr. Kwok's son?<br>11: 13:06 | 15<br>Q. Understood.<br>11:15:04 | | 16 | "ANSWER: Yes.<br>11:13:09 | 16<br>A. That works better for me, yeah.<br>11: 15:05 | | 17 | "QUESTION: Have you ever met him in<br>11:13:11 | 17<br>MR.HARBACH: Andwithapologiestothe<br>11:15:07 | | 18 | person?<br>11:13:12 | 18 reporter for interrupting. I'll try to do better.<br>11: 15: I 0 | | 19 | "ANSWER: Yes.<br>11:13:13 | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:15:13 | | 20 | "QUESTION: Does he have any role at<br>11:13:14 | 20<br>Q. Next question on the deposition transcript<br>11:15:13 | | 21 | Golden Spring?<br>11:13:17 | 2] IS:<br>11:15:16 | | 22 | "ANSWER: I don't know.<br>11:13: 19 | "QUESTION: Is that Mr. Kwok's son?<br>22<br>11:15:17 | | 23 | "QUESTION: You never interacted with<br>11:13:22 | 23<br>"ANSWER: Yes."<br>11:15:20 | | 24 | him in regard to any Golden Spring business? 11: 13:24 | 24<br>So there is no question whether it is<br>11:15:22 | | 25 | "ANSWER: No."<br>11:13:28 | 25 Mileson Kwok or Qiang Guo.<br>11: 15:25 | | | Page 74 | Page 76 | | | | | | | | | | I | Did I read that correctly?<br>11: 13:36 | We are talking about Mr. Kwok Ho Wan's son;<br>11:15:27 | | 2 | A. Yes.<br>11:13:38 | 2 correct?<br>11:15:34 | | 3 | Q. Can you explain-- well, first of all, is<br>11:13:39 | A. Correct.<br>11:15:34<br>3 | | | 4 that true?<br>11: 13:46 | Q. And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has one, and only one,<br>11:15:35<br>4 | | 5 | A. Well--<br>11:13:52 | 5 son; correct?<br>11:15:40 | | 6 | Q. Let's go through them-- let's go through<br>11:13:53 | A. Correct.<br>11:15:42<br>6 | | | 7 them one by one so we can be crystal clear. First<br>11: 13:57 | Q. Okay. Next question:<br>11:15:43<br>7 | | | 8 question:<br>11: 14:01 | "QUESTION: Have you ever met him" --<br>11:15:47<br>8 | | 9 | "QUESTION: Do you know Mileson Kwong?"<br>11: 14:0 I | 9<br>Meaning who we're calling Qiang Guo.<br>11:15:51 | | 10 | Was that true in October 11th, 2018, you<br>11:14:09 | -- ''in person?"<br>10<br>11:15:54 | | | II knew Mileson Kwok? Was that true?<br>11:14:11 | 11: 15:56<br>11<br>Your answer was: | | 12 | A. I was given a wrong impression back in 2018. 11:14:13 | "ANSWER: Yes."<br>11:15:58<br>12 | | | 13 Like, I was thinking, like, Mileson go with Kwok<br>11:14:17 | WasthattruethatyouhadmetQiangGuoin 11:16:01<br>13 | | | 14 also. The reason why --<br>11:14:22 | 14 person as of October 11th, 2018?<br>11:16:05 | | 15 | Q. lam--<br>11:14:22 | A. Yes.<br>11:16:07<br>15 | | 16 | A. --lam--<br>11:14:24 | 16<br>Q. Okay. Next question:<br>11:16:07 | | 17 | Q. -- going to --<br>11: 14:24 | 17<br>"QUESTION: Does he, Qiang Guo, have any 11:16:17 | | 18 | A. -- testifying --<br>11:14:24 | 18<br>role at Golden Spring?"<br>11:16: 17 | | 19 | Q. -- interrupt.<br>11: 14:24 | 19<br>Your answer was you don't know.<br>11:16:19 | | 20 | A. -- right now --<br>11: 14:25 | 20<br>Now, this is six months after you said you<br>11: 16:22 | | 21 | Q. Yeah.<br>11:14:25 | 21 started at Golden Spring. Months after what you<br>11: 16:25 | | 22 | A. -- I was corrected by Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>11:14:27 | 22 claim earlier were conversations with Mr. Qiang Guo<br>11:16:31 | | | 23 He purposely corrected me after -- I forget when. He 11: 14:30 | 23 about your role and duties.<br>11:16:35 | | | 24 corrected me and said that he always go with<br>11: 14:33<br>25 Mileson Kwok; so the testimony by then back in 2018<br>11: 14:37 | 24<br>So why, six months after you started at<br>11: 16:39<br>25 Golden Spring, did you say that you didn't know<br>11: 16:42 |

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| 1 whether he had any role?<br>11:16:46 | 1 frequently-- and that it was -- I believe you said<br>11: 19:47 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>A. That was after --<br>11: 16:50 | 2 a mix of by phone and in person.<br>11: 19: 51 | | Q. Isn'tthat--isn'tthatalsotruethatyou 11:16:52<br>3 | 3<br>Do you -- does that not count as interaction 11: 19:59 | | 4 didnotknow?<br>11:16:55 | 4 in your mind?<br>11 :20:02 | | A. So sir, you finish your question; so can<br>11:17:02<br>5 | 5<br>A. Interact with him in Golden Spring business. 11:20:03 | | 6 I start to answer or you still have more, sir? I'll<br>11: 17:06 | 6 I mean, him and myself, we're friend also along the<br>11:20:06 | | 7 wait until you finish.<br>11: 17:09 | 7 way for so many years; so when you ask me five<br>11:20:11 | | 8<br>Q. You -- thank you for waiting.<br>11: 17: 11 | 8 minutes ago, I mean, we do, like, meet and talk as<br>11:20:14 | | You can answer if you answer my question.<br>9<br>11: 17: 12 | 9 needed. But the question back to 2018, it is asking<br>11: 20: 18 | | The question is is it true that as of<br>10<br>11: 17: 15 | 10 about interacted with him in regard to any<br>11 :20:23 | | 11 October 11th, 2018, you did not know whether<br>11: 17: 19 | 11 Golden Spring business, which my testify was true.<br>11:20:26 | | 12 Qiang Guo had any role at Golden Spring? That is the 11: 17:27 | 12 He was in charge of all the Golden Spring business<br>11 :20:29 | | 13 question.<br>11:17:30 | 13 back to then. And I know I'm part of Golden Spring,<br>11:20:32 | | 14<br>A. Back to 2018, I don't know by then in my<br>11:17:33 | 14 but, really, like, he -- he was the person running<br>11:20:36 | | 15 understanding the role means employee or employees;<br>11:17:38 | 15 the business.<br>11:20:39 | | 16 so by then I did not know whether he was employee or<br>11:17:43 | 16<br>Q. Ms. Wang, isn't it true that, in fact, you<br>11:20:40 | | 17 not. But I do know he is the boss. He is the owner. 11: 17:47 | 17 were not interacting with Qiang Guo, certainly not in 11 :20:46 | | 18 I do not know whether he is employee or not because<br>11: 17:51 | 18 2018,aboutGoldenSpringbusiness? Isn'tthattrue? 11:20:51 | | 19 he was majorly handling the Golden Spring majority of 11: 17:54 | 19<br>A. Can you reframe your question again, sir?<br>11:20:56 | | 20 work by then. I only work and cooperate with him as<br>11: 18:00 | 20<br>Q. Isn't it true that in 2018 you, in fact,<br>11 :21:0 I | | 21 neededbackin2018.<br>11:18:05 | 21 were not interacting with Mr. Qiang Guo at all<br>11:21:05 | | 22<br>Q. In 2018 you didn't say he was the boss? Six 11: 18:07 | 22 related to anything Golden Spring was doing? Isn't<br>11:21:10 | | 23 months after you claimed to have started working with 11: 18: 13 | 23 that the truth?<br>11: 21: 14 | | 24 him you didn't say he was the boss, did you?<br>11:18:16 | A. I don't recall. It is too long time ago,<br>24<br>11:21:15 | | 25<br>A. I was not asked whether he was the boss or<br>11: 18: 19 | 25 and this deposition was conducted -- I don't believe<br>11 :21:21 | | Page 78 | Page 80 | | | | | | | | I not.<br>11:18:24 | I Ihadaninterpreterbythen.<br>11:21:25 | | 2<br>Q. You were asked whether he had any role?<br>11:18:24 | Q. Isn't it also true that the boss of<br>2<br>11:21:27 | | 3<br>A. Any role, in my understanding back to 2018,<br>11: 18:27 | 3 Golden Spring (New York), when you started working<br>11:21:30 | | 4 as employee.<br>11: 18:32<br>5 | 4 there, wasn't Qiang Guo; it was Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:21:32 | | Q. Okay. How about the next question:<br>11:18:33 | 5 Isn't that true?<br>11:21:37 | | "QUESTION: You never interacted with<br>11:18:37<br>6 | 6<br>A. Golden Spring (New York)'s boss is always<br>11:21:38 | | him in regards to any Golden Spring<br>11:18:39<br>7 | 7 Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>11:21:43 | | 8<br>business?"<br>11:18:43<br>9<br>That was the question you were asked, and<br>11: 18 :46 | 8<br>Q. Isn't it true that you have been a long-term 11:21:44<br>9 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:21:53 | | 10 the answer you gave was:<br>11: 18:48 | 10<br>A. I have been working for Mr. Qiang Guo,<br>11:22:00 | | "ANSWER: No."<br>11:18:51<br>11 | 11 himself, and his family.<br>11 :22:04 | | My question for you right now is is it<br>11: 18:52<br>12 | Q. Yeah. I'm-- I'm not asking about<br>12<br>11:22:06 | | 13 true-- is it true that as of October 11th, 2018, you 11:18:55 | 13 Mr. Qiang Guo. I'll ask the question again.<br>11 :22:08 | | 14 had not interacted with Qiang Guo in regard to any<br>11:19:01 | 14<br>Isn't it true that you were a long-term<br>11:22: 13 | | 15 Golden Spring business? Is that true or not?<br>11: 19:08 | 15 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:22: 18 | | A. It is a correct answer because back in 2018, 11: 19: 13<br>16 | A. I don't believe so. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he<br>16<br>11:22:23 | | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo, he was the major person running<br>11: 19: 19 | 17 never pay me or ever pays me or pay me at all.<br>11:22:25 | | 18 Golden Spring; so I didn't understand -- again,<br>11:19:22 | 18<br>Q. Does he tell you --<br>11:22:29 | | 19 English not my native language -- what is interacted<br>11: 19:29 | 19<br>A. So I always work for Mr. Qiang Guo and his<br>11:22:31 | | 20 with. My understanding, by then he was running the<br>11:19:33 | | | 21 company. I just work for him as he needed. That is<br>11: 19:35 | 20 business.<br>11:22:35<br>Q. DoesMr.HoWanKwokevertellyouwhatto<br>21<br>11:22:35 | | 22 my understanding; so -- which is correct.<br>11: 19:38 | 22 do?<br>11:22:37 | | Q. Right<br>11:19:41<br>23 | A. What do you mean, ever tell me what to -- if 11:22:38<br>23 | | 24<br>And you told me five minutes ago that you<br>11:19:41 | 24 they ask me for help, of course I will offer my help<br>11 :22:42 | | 25 had contact with him -- you didn't remember how<br>11:19:44 | 25 to him.<br>11:22:45 |

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| Q. Does -- does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever give you<br>11 :22:46 | Q. Okay. And so there is a long answer on page 11 :24:57 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 11 :22:48<br>2 direction? | 2 forty-eight that goes from line twelve to line<br>11:25:02 | | 3<br>A He ask for support and help, which I'm<br>11 :22:49 | 3 twenty-three. And I'm not going to read the whole<br>11:25:06 | | 11:22:55<br>4 always willmg to do that for him. | 4 thing, but I want to direct your attention to the<br>11:25:10 | | 5<br>Q. Does he ask -- ever ask you to go get<br>11:22:57 | 5 second half of that answer. It says:<br>11 :25: 15 | | 6 coffee?<br>11:23:00 | "They are arrested and pnt in jail by<br>11 :25: 19<br>6 | | 7<br>A I don't recall.<br>11:23:01 | Chinese Communist party. And a lot of his<br>11:25:22<br>7 | | 8<br>What do you mean?<br>11:23:03 | family member, including his son, his<br>11:25:26<br>8 | | Q. You don't --you don't recall whether<br>9<br>11 :23:05 | daughter, niece, nephew, and his<br>11:25:28<br>9 | | 10 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to get coffee?<br>11:23:07 | sister-in-law, brothers, they were all<br>11:25:32<br>10 | | II<br>A Sir, I mean, I don't recall. Just, like,<br>11 :23: 11 | threatened, kidnapped, and put in jail<br>11 :25:37<br>11 | | 12 why I should recall someone ask me to get coffee:<br>11 :23:15 | without any reason until now, including all<br>11 :25:40<br>12 | | 13 right?<br>11 :23:18 | of his, like, long-term employee, just like<br>11 :25:43<br>13 | | 14<br>Q. Well, I don't -- I don't know. Maybe he has 11 :23:19 | me."<br>11:25:47<br>14 | | 15 asked you to get coffee hundreds of times Maybe he 11.23.21 | So you are talking about Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>11:25:50<br>15 | | | 16 here; correct?<br>11 :25:56 | | 16 never has. All I can do is ask the question.<br>11:23:25 | | | Do you recall --<br>17<br>11.23 .28 | 17<br>A. Can I read the entire from sentence twelve<br>11:25:58 | | A I don't recall that<br>18<br>11 :23:28 | 18 until twenty-three?<br>11:26:04 | | Q. -- if Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has ever asked you to<br>19<br>11 :23:29 | 19<br>Q. Absolutely. Take your time, read it to<br>11:26:05 | | 20 go get coffee?<br>11:23:32 | 20 yourself, and let me know when you are finished.<br>11:26:08 | | A I don't recall.<br>11:23:34<br>21 | 21<br>A. Thank you.<br>11:26: 11 | | 22<br>Q. Okay. What about to translate something for 11 :23:34 | 22<br>Okay. I finished it, sir.<br>11:27:12 | | 23 him, meaning 11r. Ho Wan Kwok? Have you ever done<br>11:23:37 | 23<br>Q. Thank you.<br>11:27:15 | | 24 that for him?<br>1123:40 | 24<br>My question is the person who you were<br>11:27: 15 | | A Yes, I did.<br>11 23:41<br>25<br>Page 82 | 25 talking about in this answer, who you refer to as he<br>11 :27: 18<br>Page 84 | | | | | | | | I<br>Q. How frequently?<br>11:23:42 | I and his, is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?<br>11:27:22 | | A I don't recall.<br>2<br>11:23:44 | A. And reading from the language, of course,<br>2<br>11:27:28 | | Q. More than once?<br>11:23:48<br>3 | 3 this is by -- by the transcript court recorder.<br>11 :27:33 | | A Yes.<br>11:23:50<br>4 | 4 Like, it -- reading from the language, it looks like<br>11 :27:39 | | More than once.<br>11:23:51<br>5 | 5 yes. But I am referring to -- as I am starting from<br>11 :27:43 | | Q. Okay. When was the last time you translated 11 :23:52<br>6 | 6 the Guo family, is not just his immediate family, the 11 :27:47 | | 7 something for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:23:55 | 7 entire Guo family.<br>11:27:52 | | A I don't recall.<br>8<br>11:23:57 | 8<br>Q. Yes.<br>11 :27:53 | | Q. Okay. Let's go to --<br>11 :24:01<br>9 | And you said on line two:<br>11:27:54<br>9 | | MR. HARBACH: What is 331? I can't see. Is 11:24:08<br>10 | 10<br>"Mr. Kwok, Miles Kwok, he is number<br>11:27:56 | | 11 that --<br>11:24:11 | seventh son of the whole family."<br>11:28:06<br>11 | | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:24:13 | 12<br>You are talking about the debtor,<br>11:28:07 | | 13<br>Q. Okay. Let's go to Exhibit 2, please.<br>11 :24: 13 | 13 Kwok Ho Wan; correct?<br>11 :28: 10 | | A (Witness complies.)<br>14<br>11:24:15 | 14<br>A. Correct.<br>11:28:12 | | Q. And l'll ask you -- do you have Exhibit 2,<br>15<br>11:24:23 | Q. Okay. And then you describe all of his<br>15<br>11:28:12 | | 16 Ms. Wang?<br>11:24:26 | 16 relatives and the terrible things that happens to<br>11:28: 16 | | 17<br>A Yes.<br>11:24:27 | 17 them. And then you say that the people to whom that<br>11:28:21 | | Q. Okay. Can you go, please, to page<br>18<br>11:24:27 | 18 happened include all of his, meaning<br>11 :28:29 | | 19 forty-eight.<br>11 :24:32 | 19 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan -- all of his long-term employee,<br>11:28:34 | | 20<br>A (Witness complies.)<br>11:24:34 | 20 just like me; so this is the basis for my question<br>11 :28:41 | | Q. Tell me when you are there.<br>11:24:46<br>21 | 21 five minutes ago.<br>11:28:49 | | 22<br>A I'm working on it, sir. Forty-eight.<br>11 :24: 50 | 22<br>Isn't it true that you are a long-term<br>11 :28:51 | | 23<br>Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>11:24:53 | 23 employee of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Is that true or not?<br>11:28:55 | | 24<br>A Yes.<br>11:24:56 | 24<br>A. I am a long-term employee for the Guo<br>11:29:01 | | 25<br>I am here.<br>11:24:56 | 25 family. I mean, I didn't remember clearly what was<br>11 :29:09 |

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| | 1 recorded in here. Like, obviously, I was never in<br>11 :29: 12 | | So it is not Exhibit 2? You want me to go<br>11 :32:23 | |----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 jail. I am under threatened, but I was not kidnapped 11:29: 17 | | 2 back to Exhibit I, sir; right?<br>11 :32:26 | | | 3 and in jail. I think it is still blamed to my broken 11:29:21 | 3 | Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>11:32:29 | | | 4 English back there. When I say long-term employee,<br>11:29:27 | 4 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>11 :32:32 | | | 5 my real -- my meaning as the Guo family. I am<br>11:29:30 | 5 | I'm here.<br>11 :32:33 | | | 6 a long-term employee of Guo family.<br>11:29:32 | 6 | Q. Okay. Thank you.<br>11:32:34 | | 7 | Q. Who?<br>11:29:36 | 7 | Now, could you please scroll forward on the<br>11:32:35 | | 8 | A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, he never hired me by<br>11 :29:37 | | 8 small pages to page forty-six.<br>11:32:38 | | | 9 himself.<br>11:29:43 | 9 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>11 :32:42 | | 10 | Q. Well, who -- who -- first, since you brought 11:29:43 | 10 | Yes.<br>11:32:52 | | | 11 it up, who was the person who hired you to work for<br>11 :29:45 | 11 | Q. Okay. Very good.<br>11:32:53 | | | 12 the Guo family?<br>11 :29:49 | 12 | Now, on this subject of what administrator<br>11:32:54 | | 13 | A. It was a company. It was a company called<br>11:29:51 | | 13 means, if you'll look down at line twenty of page<br>11:32: 59 | | | 14 Pangu, P-a-n-g-u. Beijing Pangu.<br>11 :29: 53 | | 14 forty-six, you'll see a question:<br>11 :33:06 | | | | | "QUESTION: I'maskingyouwhetheror | | 15 | Q. Yeah.<br>11:29:58 | 15 | 11:33:11 | | 16 | And who was the boss of Beijing Pangu when<br>11:29:59 | 16 | not you serve as an administrator for<br>11: 33: 12 | | | 17 you were hired to work for the Guo family?<br>11:30:03 | 17 | Mr. Kwok's" --<br>11:33:17 | | 18 | A. You mean boss, like the owner?<br>11:30:07 | 18 | That is Ho Wan Kwok-- for his interests.<br>11 :33: 18 | | 19 | Q. Well, you know, you can ascribe whatever<br>11 :30: 11 | | 19 And your answer was:<br>11:33:22 | | | 20 meaning you want to boss, Ms. Wang, but you seem to<br>11 :30: 14 | 20 | "ANSWER: Yes."<br>11:33:24 | | | 21 understand that Qiang Guo is the boss of<br>11:30: 17 | 21 | And then you were asked:<br>11 :33 :25 | | | 22 Golden Spring; so you tell me.<br>11:30:19 | 22 | "QUESTION: What does that mean?"<br>11:33:27 | | 23 | A. Oh, understand.<br>11:30:21 | 23 | And you said:<br>11 :33:30 | | 24 | So Beijing Pangu was owned by the Guo<br>11 :30:22 | 24 | "ANSWER: Translator," comma,<br>11:33:31 | | | 25 families.<br>11 :30:28<br>Page 86 | 25 | 11:33:33<br>"assistant."<br>Page 88 | | | | | | | | | | | | I | Q. Okay. So who was it --<br>11:30:29 | I | Do you see that there?<br>11 :33:36 | | 2 | MR. HARBACH: And -- and, Scott, I won't<br>11:30:32 | 2 | A. Yes.<br>11 :33:37 | | | 3 stay here long, but she brought it up.<br>11:30:35 | 3 | Q. Now, you have already told us that you --<br>11 :33:38 | | | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:30:37 | | 4 you have, in fact, done some translation for<br>11:33:41 | | 5 | Q. Ms. Wang, who was it who told you at the<br>11:30:38 | | 5 Mr. Kwok-- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; right?<br>11:33:45 | | | 6 very beginning -- when you first started working for<br>11:30:41 | 6 | A. I translate for him -- translated for him,<br>11 :33:48 | | | 7 the Guo family, who was it who told you you were<br>11 :30:44 | | 7 yes.<br>11:33:52 | | | 8 hired? Which person?<br>11:30:47 | 8 | Q. Yes.<br>11 :33:53 | | 9 | A. I was advised by the HR department, which<br>11:30:49 | 9 | And if--you also said-- it also says that 11:33:53 | | | 10 I couldn't recall. That was back in 20- -- 2008.<br>11:30:57 | | 10 you were his assistant.<br>11:34:00 | | | 11 I couldn't recall. But I was informed by the HR<br>11 :31 :02 | 11 | Is that true?<br>11:34:01 | | | 12 department! was hired.<br>11:31:06 | 12 | A. I mean that I -- I testified as an<br>11:34:03 | | 13 | Q. I'm going to apologize for rewinding just<br>11 :31:07 | | 13 administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and I help him as<br>11:34:09 | | | 14 for a moment back to an earlier topic. I'll try and<br>11:31:19 | | 14 per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, including, like,<br>11 :34: 13 | | | 15 make this clear and efficient.<br>11:31:24 | | 15 help him to translate, make him understand, include,<br>11 :34: 17 | | 16 | In Exhibit 4, which is your affidavit, you<br>11: 31:32 | | 16 like, assist as he needs -- right? -- to support him. 11 :34:22 | | | 17 recall that -- that I asked you several questions<br>11:31:46 | | 17 It does not mean I have -- I have a title called<br>11:34:27 | | | 18 about what being an administrator for<br>11:31:49 | | 18 assistant; so if that is what you are looking for.<br>11:34:30 | | | 19 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests meant? You with me?<br>11:31:52 | 19 | Q. Well--<br>11:34:32 | | 20 | A. Yes.<br>11 :31:58 | 20 | A. My meaning was I help him to understand as<br>11 :34:33 | | 21 | Q. Okay. So the reason I'm coming back to this 11:31:58 | | 21 to language and support him as he needed as his son's 11:34:36 | | | 22 is because I neglected to point something else out to 11 :32:02 | | 22 instruction.<br>11:34:40 | | | 23 you. And it is Exhibit I; so could you turn to<br>11:32:07 | 23 | Q. Okay. And so what does that mean, other<br>11:34:41 | | 25 | 24 Exhibit I, please.<br>11:32:15<br>A. (Witness complies.)<br>11:32:17 | | 24 than the translation work, when you say that assisted 11 :34:43<br>25 means support him as needed? What sorts of things<br>11:34:47 |

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| | 1 didyoudoforhimbackin2018?<br>11:34:51 | 1<br>A. I don't understand, sir. I mean, capacity,<br>11:37:54 | |----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. Could-- can you<br>11:34:57 | 2 I am available. I am here. I offer my support as<br>11:38:02 | | | 3 clarify, when you use the word you, are you referring 11 :34:59 | 3 Mr. Qiang Guo requested me to do. That is my<br>11:38:05 | | | 4 to Golden Spring, or are you referring to the witness 11:35:01 | 4 understanding about capacity. If that is the<br>11 :38:08 | | | 5 personally?<br>11:35:04 | 5 capacity you are talking, that is the same, yes.<br>11 :38: 10 | | 6 | MR. HARBACH: That's fair, Scott.<br>11:35:06 | Q. Well,Ihearyou.<br>6<br>11:38:13 | | 7 | I believe when -- when she was deposed in<br>11:35:08 | 7<br>All I'm trying to confirm is that that was<br>11:38:15 | | | 8 2018, she was testifying in both her capacity as<br>11:35:11 | 8 what you were supposed to do, according to you, as<br>11:38: 19 | | | 9 a representative of Golden Spring and in her personal 11 :35: 16 | 9 president of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was<br>11:38:23 | | | 10 capacity; so she is going to have to clarify that for 11 :35:20 | 10 translate for Mr. Kwok Ho Wan and cater to his<br>11:38:30 | | | 11 me.<br>11:35:24 | 11 personal needs; is that right? Is that what you are<br>11:38:34 | | 12 | MR. ROSEN: You can answer.<br>11:35:26 | 12 saying?<br>11 :38:38 | | 13 | THE WITNESS: I don't recall.<br>11:35:29 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>11:38:39<br>13 | | | 14 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:35:29 | 14<br>You -- you can answer.<br>11:38:40 | | IS | Q. Okay. And in any case, your role as an<br>11 :35:31 | 15<br>THE WITNESS: Let me repeat again.<br>11:38:44 | | | 16 administrator for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's interests, that,<br>11 :35:35 | My capacity as president of Golden Spring<br>16<br>11:38:46 | | | 17 according to you, was in your capacity as president<br>11:35:42 | 17 (New York) is to work as per the owner of company<br>11 :38:49 | | | 18 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; correct? | | | | 11:35:46 | 18 requesting needs to me, including assist his father,<br>11:38:55 | | 19 | A. I was requested by Mr. Qiang Guo to help<br>11:35:52 | 19 translate for his father, and that including here I'm 11:38:58 | | | 20 backin2018;thatiscorrect.<br>11:35:57 | 20 being deposed today; right?<br>11:39:02 | | 21 | Q. Okay. Well, I want to make sure you<br>11:36:01 | And sign the affidavit. Including a lot of 11 :39:05<br>21 | | | 22 understand my question because since Mr. Rosen<br>11 :36:04 | 22 things, I mean, if! may say, not only as you just<br>11:39:08 | | | 23 helpfully raised capacity, I want to make sure we get 11 :36:07 | 23 tried to describe me as assistant or translator, if<br>11 :39: 12 | | | 24 this correct.<br>11:36:11 | 24 that is helpful to you, sir.<br>11:39:17 | | 25 | Okay?<br>11:36:12<br>Page 90 | 25 Ill<br>Page 92 | | | | | | | | | | I | So bearing in mind that we are talking about 11 :36: 13 | I BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:39: 18 | | | 2 what being an administrator for Mr. Ho Wan K wok's<br>11:36:18 | 2<br>Q. Well, translator and assistant, again,<br>11:39:18 | | | 3 interests means -- that is what we're talking<br>11 :36:23 | 3 Ms. Wang, those were your words, not mine. I just<br>11:39:22 | | | 4 about -- I'm going to direct you back to Exhibit 1 --<br>11 :36:26 | 4 read them to you from a transcript. And so all I'm<br>11:39:25 | | | 5 correction. Exhibit 4 -- sorry.<br>11 :36:31 | 5 doing is trying to explore what your job as president 11:39:28 | | 6 | A. So Exhibit 4, sir; right? Which one are we<br>11 :36:36 | 6 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was. And you<br>11 :39:31 | | | 7 talking about? Four?<br>11:36:41 | 7 have -- you have explained part of that to us,<br>11 :39:34 | | 8 | Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>11:36:42 | 8 I think. And I'm just trying to understand what<br>11:39:38 | | 9 | The number four.<br>11:36:46 | 9 assistant means.<br>11:39:45 | | 10 | A. I'mhere.<br>11 :36:48 | 10<br>Besides being a translator, can you tell me<br>11:39:53 | | 11 | Q. And this affidavit, which you have already<br>11:36:49 | 11 any more about that?<br>11:39:57 | | | 12 told us you signed and swore to as being true and<br>11:36:53 | 12<br>A. About what, sir?<br>11:39:58 | | | 13 correct, states that you're serving as an<br>11:36:57 | Q. About what you meant when you said you were<br>11:39:59<br>13 | | | 14 administrator for the interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>11:37:02 | 14 Kwok Ho Wan's assistant.<br>11:40:04 | | | 15 and his family was in your capacity as president of<br>11 :37:07 | A. That is what I -- that is -- that was not,<br>11:40:09<br>15 | | | 16 Golden Spring (New York) Limited: isn't that correct? 11:37:14 | 16 I mean, in my language. I mean, still I don't --<br>11:40: 13 | | 17 | A. I was hired by Golden Spring (New York), and 11 :37:23 | 17 I don't have this as my native language when I named<br>11 :40: 19 | | | 18 I take instruction from the owner of Golden Spring<br>11 :37:28 | 18 that, which means I offered that support and service. 11 :40:23 | | | 19 (New York). And I was available to support his<br>11 :37:32 | 19 I don't have a title called translator or assistant.<br>11 :40:26 | | | 20 family, including his father. That is what the<br>11:37:36 | 20 Obviously--<br>11:40:31 | | | 21 capacity, to me, means in here.<br>11:37:40 | Q. Which--<br>11:40:31<br>21 | | 22 | Q. And -- and what you just described,<br>11 :37:43 | 22<br>A. -- I don't have it, yeah; so I offered that<br>11 :40:32 | | | 23 according to you, was in your capacity as president<br>11:37:45 | 23 support.<br>11 :40:33 | | | 24 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited; isn't that<br>11:37:50<br>25 right?<br>11:37:54 | 24<br>Q. Okay.<br>11 :40:33<br>A. This is what I'm meaning, if that is<br>25<br>11 :40:34 |

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| 1 helpful.<br>11:40:37 | 1 the lifestyle -- I mean, take care of his father.<br>11:43:10 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>Q. Got it.<br>11 :40:37 | 2<br>Q. When did he give you that instruction?<br>11:43:13 | | Tell me what -- now, what you just meant<br>11 :40:38<br>3 | A. Oh, I don't recall. I should -- from long<br>11 :43: 16<br>3 | | 4 right now when you said support.<br>11:40:40 | 4 time ago. I mean, son take care of the father.<br>11:43:22 | | Besides translation, what else?<br>11:40:42<br>5 | 5 I mean, that is kind of natural to me, so<br>11:43:25 | | A. For example, I am being deposed right now in 11 :40:44<br>6 | Q. Well, I'm not going to quarrel with -- with<br>11 :43:28<br>6 | | 7 this bankruptcy.<br>11:40:51 | 7 whether it is natural or not.<br>11:43:32 | | Q. Okay.<br>8<br>11:40:53 | 8<br>My only question is you just said that --<br>11:43:34 | | A. This is as per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction;<br>11:40:53<br>9 | 9 that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you the instruction that you<br>11:43:39 | | 10 right?<br>11:40:57 | 10 just recited.<br>11:43:43 | | And so<br>11:40:57<br>11 | And my question is when? You said a long<br>11:43:45<br>11 | | 12<br>Q. Is your testimony -- I don't think this is<br>11 :40:58 | 12 time ago? How long ago?<br>11:43:48 | | 13 what you are saying, but I'll ask it anyway because<br>11 :41 :00 | 13<br>A. I don't recall.<br>11:43:51 | | 14 it is a fair inference from your words.<br>11:41:03 | Q. More than a month ago?<br>14<br>11:43:52 | | Is your testimony today in support of<br>11 :41:06<br>15 | A. It should be longerthanmorethanamonth.<br>11:43:57<br>15 | | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>11:41:08 | 16<br>Q. Okay. Had he given you that instruction by<br>11 :44:00 | | 17<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>11:41:11 | 17 the time of your deposition in October of2018?<br>11:44:03 | | You can answer that.<br>11 :41:14<br>18 | A. I don't recall.<br>11:44:08<br>18 | | 19<br>THE WITNESS: I am testimony -- I am testify 11:41: 15 | 19<br>Q. Had he given you that instruction by the<br>11:44:08 | | 20 today for a bankruptcy like a-- I believe the topic<br>11:41:19 | 20 time of your trial testimony in May of2019?<br>11:44:12 | | 21 is about DIP loan; right?<br>11:41:24 | A. I don't recall.<br>11:44:17<br>21 | | 22 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:41:27 | 22<br>Q. Isn't it possible?<br>11:44:18 | | 23<br>Q. And I would love to get there, but we --<br>11 :41:27 | 23<br>A. I don't recall.<br>11:44:23 | | 24 we're -- well, let me just ask one more time.<br>11:41:29 | 24<br>Q. Well, did he give you that instruction<br>11:44:24 | | I understand that you are not -- you are<br>11 :41:32<br>25 | 25 sometime in 2020?<br>11:44:33 | | Page 94 | Page 96 | | I saying that assistant was not your title.<br>11:41:36 | I<br>A. I really don't recall.<br>11:44:35 | | 2 I understand that. I understand that your title was<br>11 :41 :39 | Q. How long has Golden Spring (New York) been<br>11:44:40<br>2 | | 3 all those titles I recited several times now at<br>11:41:42 | 3 paying for Mr. Kwok's lifestyle, as you just said?<br>11:44:57 | | 4 Golden Spring (New York) Limited. And I also<br>11 :41 :46 | 4<br>A. How long? I believe since I was appointed.<br>11 :45 :03 | | 5 understand that according to you, in your capacity as 11:41:50 | 5 I mean, I don't recall clearly. I don't recall. But 11 :45: 13 | | 6 president, you served as an administrator of the<br>11:41:54 | 6 a long time.<br>11:45:17 | | 7 interests of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and the family.<br>11:41:58 | 7<br>Q. Okay. Well, you said two things there. You 11:45:19 | | 8<br>You were asked at a deposition about what<br>11:42:04 | 8 said you believe since you were appointed and you<br>11:45:22 | | 9 serving as an administrator meant, and you said<br>11:42:07 | 9 have said you don't recall; so I have -- I'm going to 11 :45:25 | | 10 translator and assistant. Now, we all know what<br>11:42: 12 | 10 have to ask you to tell me which it is.<br>11:45:29 | | 11 a translator is, and that is clear. It is clear that 11:42:18 | A. I don't recall. And I shouldn't speculate<br>11:45:33<br>11 | | 12 you performed that service for Mr. Kwok.<br>11:42:21 | 12 or guess because when I was appointed, as<br>11:45:37 | | 13<br>All I'm trying to understand, Ms. Wang, is<br>11:42:24 | 13 I testified, like, a couple of minutes ago, which was 11 :45 :42 | | 14 what else you did for him, and so far the only thing<br>11 :42:27 | 14 true, Mr. Qiang Guo was operating and running his<br>11:45:46 | | 15 you have said is testify at this deposition.<br>11:42:31 | 15 business; so that is the reason I correct my answer<br>11:45:50 | | 16<br>Is there anything else?<br>11:42:33 | 16 to be I don't recall because I was not paying that by 11:45:53 | | 17<br>A. Yes.<br>11 :42:37 | 17 myself. I don't recall the answers.<br>11:45:59 | | 18<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>11:42:38 | 18<br>Q. Understood.<br>11 :46:00 | | 19<br>You can answer.<br>11:42:40 | 19<br>What role did you have -- as president,<br>11:46:01 | | THE WITNESS: Yes.<br>11:42:42<br>20 | 20 secretary, treasurer, and director of Golden Spring,<br>11 :46: 13 | | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:42:43 | 21 what role did you have in making sure that<br>11:46:18 | | 22<br>Q. Okay. What else?<br>11:42:44 | 22 Mr. Kwok's -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle needs were<br>11:46:24 | | A. For example, Mr. Qiang Guo, obviously, he<br>11:42:47<br>23 | 23 paid for?<br>11: 46 :29 | | 24 instructed Golden Spring to pay his father's, like,<br>11 :42:54 | 24<br>A. Sorry, sir.<br>11:46:31 | | 25 food, clothes, and, like, including this -- they call 11 :43:01 | | | Page 95 | 25<br>Can you please repeat your question?<br>11 :46:33<br>Page 97 |

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| 1 | 1 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Q. Yes, ma'am. | Q. Who do you receive those from? | | 11:46:35 | 11:50:31 | | 2 | A. Which bill you were talking about, sir? | | As president, secretary, treasurer, and | 11 :50:33 | | 11:46:36 | 2 | | 3 director of Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what<br>11:46:42 | Q. Any of the above.<br>3<br>11 :50:38 | | 4 role did you have in ensuring that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's<br>11:46:47 | A. I mean, some of them, they go through from<br>11:50:41<br>4 | | 5 lifestyle needs were paid for? | 5 the card. Some of them we received it from the -- | | 11:46:53 | 11 :50:45 | | A. What role I ensured with? I mean, sorry.<br>11 :46:55<br>6 | 6 the vendor.<br>11:50:48 | | 7 | Q. Okay. How many of those bills do you | | That's -- that's the question you were | 7 | | 11:47:05 | 11:50:50 | | 8 asking for; right? | 8 receive from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok directly? | | 11 :47:06 | 11:50:56 | | Q. Yes, ma'am. | A. Directly? I don't recall. | | 11:47:08 | 11 :50:59 | | 9 | 9 | | And I'll try one more time in English, and | Q. How do you know whether -- any of the | | 11:47:08 | 10 | | 10 | 11:51:06 | | 11 then we might need to use Ms. Johnston. | 11 expenses that you review to take care of | | 11:47:11 | 11: 51: 10 | | 12<br>A. Yes, please.<br>11:47: 15 | 12 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's lifestyle, how do you know or<br>11:51:14 | | I feel the same.<br>11:47:16<br>13 | 13 verify, as you said, whether any of them are actually 11:51:19 | | Q. It's okay. I'll try it one more time.<br>11:47:17<br>14 | 14 his?<br>11:51:23 | | You have stated that Mr. Qiang Guo gave you | A. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo, he requested | | 11:47:21 | 11 :51:25 | | 15 | 15 | | 16 instruction to take care of his father, I mean, more | 16 Golden Spring to take care of both his parents; so | | 11:47:25 | 11:51:32 | | 17 orless. You don't remember exactly when he gave you 11:47:35 | 17 I mean, only, like, is -- is clarified, like this is<br>11 :51:38 | | 18 that instruction, but it was a long time ago. | 18 his father's clothes and then we obviously will | | 11:47:37 | 11:51:45 | | 19<br>Have I got that right so far?<br>11:47:41 | 19 verify from that. Like --<br>11 :51:48 | | 20 | Q. And-- | | A. Yes. | 20 | | 11 :47:43 | 11:51:51 | | Q. Okay. And I'm asking now, in your role as | A. -- grocery bill, I think it is more, like, | | 11 :47:47 | 11: 51: 52 | | 21 | 21 | | 22 president, and all those other titles, of | 22 mixed for the mom and that. | | 11:48:00 | 11:51:55 | | 23 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, what did you do to<br>11 :48:03 23 | Q. Okay. And, number one, how do you know that 11:51:57 | | 24 ensure that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok and his lifestyle needs | 24 it is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's clothing that is being | | 11:48:13 | 11:52:01 | | 25 were taken care of? Do you understand the question? | 25 purchased? How do you verify that? | | 11:48:20 | 11 :52:05 | | Page 98 | Page 100 | | | | | | | | I | A. I verifying with the vendor directly. | | A. I believe so. | 11 :52:07 | | 11:48:27 | 1 | | Q. Okay. So what is the answer? | Q. And -- huh. | | 11:48:29 | 11 :52: 13 | | 2 | 2 | | 3 | 3 | | A. For example, like, I communicate with | So you -- you ask a vendor whether the | | 11:48:34 | 11:52:19 | | 4 Mr. Qiang Guo about the fund, including this depo. | 4 clothing was purchased by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? | | 11:48:42 | 11 :52:22 | | 5 He take care of the request and then make sure the<br>11:48:52 | A. Yeah. Because the man's clothes, the<br>11:52:27<br>5 | | 6 funds in there to take care of his father. | 6 women's clothes are pretty obvious; right? | | 11:49:01 | 11:52:32 | | 7 | But I do need to verify, yes. | | Q. We're going to -- we're going to talk about | 11:52:35 | | 11 :49:04 | 7 | | 8 the fund in just a moment. But you mentioned<br>11:49:10 | Q. Yeah. I get the difference between men's<br>11:52:38<br>8 | | 9 lifestyle needs earlier, things like clothing, food, | 9 and women's clothes. | | 11:49:14 | 11:52:42 | | 10 transportation -- basics.<br>11:49:22 | So is it the case that any -- any -- any<br>11 :52:44<br>10 | | As president of Golden Spring (New York)<br>11:49:29<br>11 | 11 charge that is obviously for men's clothing you<br>11:52:49 | | 12 Limited, were you involved in paying for or providing 11:49:31 | 12 assume is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, and any charge that is for 11:52:53 | | 13 those things for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? | 13 women's clothing you assume is for his wife? | | 11:49:39 | 11:52:59 | | 14 | 14 | | A. Yes. | A. I don't assume. I mean, I have to verify | | 11 :49:45 | 11:53:04 | | Q. Please tell me what you did.<br>11:49:46<br>15 | 15 because I need to report back the funds; right? --<br>11:53:07 | | 16<br>A. Like, I will review the bills and verify --<br>11: 49: 5 2 | 16 the financials to the owner of the company clearly--<br>11:53:15 | | 17 if there is any need to verify -- and process the<br>11 :50:03 | 17<br>Q. Absolutely.<br>11 :53: 18 | | 18 payment in clothing.<br>11:50:07 | A. -- so I verify.<br>11 :53: 19<br>18 | | Q. What types of bills? | 19 | | 19 | Q. Absolutely. | | 11 :50:08 | 11 :53:20 | | 20 | 20 | | A. Like, clothes. Like, food -- grocery food. | A. So I verify. | | 11 :50: 11 | 11 :53:21 | | Q. And -- and are these credit card bills or | 21 | | 11:50: 19 | Q. Let's -- do you -- do you review any credit | | 21 | 11 :53:22 | | 22 are they receipts directly from the vendor or what? | 22 card bills as part of that process? | | 11 :50:21 | 11:53:25 | | A. I believe they are both. | 23 | | 11:50:26 | A. Sometimes. | | 23 | 11:53:29 | | 24 | 24 | | Q. Okay. | Q. Okay. And when you re- -- when you review | | 11:50:28 | 11:53:30 | | 25<br>A. It is a mixed.<br>11 :50:29<br>Page 99 | 25 a credit card bill, let's just pretend there is<br>11 :53:35<br>Page 101 |

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| | 1 a charge on there for -- yeah, I don't know -- a stay 11:53 :39 | 1<br>MR. HARBACH: Sure. Sure.<br>11:56:19 | |----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 in a hotel. Let's just take that as an example.<br>11:53:45 | I'm sorry to be cute.<br>11:56:21<br>2 | | 3 | How do you verify who made the charge?<br>11:53:48 | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>11:56:22 | | 4 | A. Like, a hotel, you mean; right? For an<br>11:53:54 | Q. Ms. Wang, can you give us a more precise<br>11 :56:23<br>4 | | | 5 example.<br>11:54:02 | 5 date range during which Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife had<br>11 :56:28 | | 6 | Q. I'm taking that as an example.<br>11:54:02 | 6 access to the Golden Spring (New York) debit card?<br>11:56:32 | | 7 | A. If hotel, we obviously, Golden Spring, will<br>11 :54:05 | A. I don't recall, sir.<br>7<br>11:56:38 | | | 8 call the hotel to verify.<br>11:54:09 | 8<br>Q. Do you recall the last time that she --<br>11 :56:42 | | 9 | Q. To verify that the charge was made?<br>11:54:10 | 9 meaning Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife -- used the<br>11 :56:46 | | 10 | A. Yes.<br>11:54:14 | 10 Golden Spring (New York) debit card?<br>11 :56:49 | | II | That is part of internal, I mean, audit.<br>11:54:14 | A. I don't recall.<br>11 :56:53<br>11 | | | 12 It -- it is normal.<br>11:54:18 | Q. Did you, as president and treasurer of<br>12<br>11:56:54 | | 13 | Q. Okay. Sohowaboutfiguringoutwhoused<br>11:54:19 | 13 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, authorize<br>11:56:59 | | | 14 the credit card? How would you do that?<br>11:54:23 | 14 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife to use the Golden Spring<br>11:57:04 | | 15 | A. You -- I don't follow your question, sir.<br>11:54:26 | 15 (New York) debit card?<br>11:57:09 | | 16 | Who used credit cards? You mean<br>11:54:34 | A. Authorized? I believe yes. And<br>16<br>11:57:12 | | | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, how he used credit card; right?<br>11 :54:36 | 17 Mr. Qiang Guo requested Golden Spring to do that.<br>11:57:17 | | 18 | Q. Sure.<br>11:54:40 | Q. But you don't recall when that was?<br>18<br>11:57:20 | | 19 | That -- that is -- that is a possibility,<br>11:54:41 | 19<br>A. Correct.<br>11:57:25 | | | 20 but I don't know. I'm asking you.<br>11:54:43 | 20<br>Q. Okay. And I believe you testified a moment<br>11 :57:27 | | 21 | A. No.<br>11:54:45 | 21 ago that to your knowledge Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has never<br>11:57:3 | | 22 | He doesn't use Golden Spring's credit cards. 11:54:45 | 22 used the Golden Spring (New York) debit card; is that 11: 57:38 | | 23 | Q. Does Golden Spring have credit cards?<br>11 :54:48 | 23 correct?<br>11 :57:43 | | 24 | A. We have debit card.<br>11:54:51 | A. HeneverhasGoldenSpring(NewYork)debit<br>24<br>11:57:46 | | 25 | Q. Okay. Does Golden Spring have any credit<br>11:54:53<br>Page 102 | 25 card at all.<br>11:57:51<br>Page 104 | | | | | | | | | | | 1 cards?<br>11 :54:58 | Q. Has he ever used the debit card number to<br>11 :57:55 | | 2 | A. As of now, no.<br>11:55:00 | 2 purchase anything, to your knowledge?<br>11 :57:58 | | 3 | Q. Okay. Does Mr. Kwok have access to the<br>11 :55:03 | A. I don't know.<br>11 :58:01<br>3 | | | 4 Golden Spring debit card?<br>11:55:12 | Q. Has he ever asked you -- "he" meaning<br>11:58:03<br>4 | | 5 | A. No.<br>11 :55: 15 | 5 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>11:58:08 | | 6 | Q. What about his wife? Does he [sic] have<br>11:55:15 | Has he ever asked you to purchase anything<br>11 :58:09<br>6 | | | 7 access to the Golden Spring debit card?<br>11:55:18 | 7 for him in your capacity as president of<br>11:58:12 | | 8 | A. I don't recall.<br>11:55:21 | 8 Golden Spring?<br>11:58:15 | | 9 | Q. You are the treasurer of Golden Spring<br>11:55:25 | A. I believe so.<br>11:58:19<br>9 | | | 10 (New York) Limited; right?<br>11:55:33 | Q. Okay. Can you give us an example of<br>10<br>11 :58:21 | | II | A. Yes.<br>11:55:36 | 11 anything he has asked you to purchase for him?<br>11 :58:25 | | 12 | Q. You -- you really don't know whether<br>11:55:38 | 12<br>A. I mean, I don't recall the details, but it<br>11:58:29 | | | 13 Ho Wan Kwok's wife has access to the company debit<br>11:55:43 | 13 happened.<br>11:58:33 | | | 14 card?<br>11:55:48 | 14<br>Q. You don't remember a single thing that<br>11 :58:34 | | 15 | A. She had one before, but I'm not sure whether 11:55:49 | 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has asked you to purchase for him?<br>11:58:37 | | | 16 that one is still activated.<br>11:55:53 | 16<br>A. I don't recall.<br>11 :58:43 | | 17 | Q. When did she have one?<br>11:55:56 | Q. How many times has it happened that he has<br>17<br>11 :58:44 | | 18 | A. Long time ago.<br>11:55:58 | 18 asked you to purchase something for him?<br>11:58:49 | | 19 | Q. Can you do better than that?<br>11:56:00 | 19<br>A. I don't recall.<br>11 :58:54 | | 20 | A. What do you mean, can I do better than that, 11: 56 :0 5 | 20<br>Q. More than once?<br>11 :58:54 | | | 21 sir?<br>11:56: 10 | 21<br>A. Correct.<br>11:58:57 | | 22 | Q. You know what I mean.<br>11 :56: 10 | 22<br>Q. More than a hundred times?<br>11:58:59 | | 23 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>11:56:12 | 23<br>A. I don't recall.<br>11 :59:02 | | 24 | Can you please ask the witness directly what 11:56:15<br>25 your question is?<br>11:56:17 | 24<br>Q. On the occasions when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok has<br>11:59:03<br>25 asked you to purchase something for him, what do you<br>11:59:15 |

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| I do?<br>11 :59:18 | Have I got that right?<br>12:02:29<br>1 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>A. As per Mr. Qiang Guo's instruction, I help<br>11 :59:20 | A. Yeah. That is the instruction was given to<br>12:02:31<br>2 | | 3 him, yes I go to buy for him.<br>11 :59:28 | 3 Golden Spring; so --<br>12:02:34 | | II :59:32<br>Q. Okay. Have -- has -- have you ever--<br>4 | 4<br>Q. And is this --<br>12:02:35 | | 5 has -- have you ever refused a request from<br>11:59:37 | 5<br>A. -- we just go buy.<br>12:02:38 | | 6 J\Ar. Ho Wan Kwok that you purchase something for him? 11 :59:41 | 6<br>Q. Is that true, no matter how expensive the<br>12:02:40 | | 7<br>A. Yes.<br>11 :59:45 | 7 item is?<br>12:02:42 | | 8<br>Q. When was that?<br>11:59:46 | A. Sir, what -- what is your range about<br>12:02:44<br>8 | | A. I don't recall. But I obviously need to<br>9<br>11 :59:48 | 9 expensive? I mean --<br>12:02:48 | | 10 report it to Mr. Qiang Guo, and ifhe reject it,<br>11:59:56 | Q. Well, let's take -- let's take<br>12:02:50<br>10 | | 11 I will reject<br>12:00:01 | 11 transportation as an example.<br>12:02:53 | | 12<br>Q. Okay. Is your -- so I want to make sure<br>12:00:03 | 12<br>Are you aware that -- that Mr. Kwok<br>12:02:54 | | 13 I understand the process.<br>12:00:06 | 13 frequently travels in a Maybach limousine?<br>12:02:57 | | 14<br>Is it your testimony that every time<br>12:00:07 | 14<br>A. Am I aware? What do you mean am I aware?<br>12:03:05 | | 15 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asks you to buy something for him<br>12.00.10 | Q. Do you know -- do you know what a limousine<br>12:03:09<br>15 | | 16 thatyouconsulthissontogetpermission' Isthat 12:00:14 | 16 is?<br>12:03:12 | | 17 correct or not?<br>1200.23 | 17<br>A. Limo, yes. I do know.<br>12:03:13 | | A. Not every time. Like, as you said, for<br>18<br>12:00:23 | 18<br>Q. Okay. And do you know what a Maybach is?<br>12:03:15 | | 19 example, buy coffee; right?<br>12:00:27 | 19<br>A. Yes.<br>12:03:18 | | 20<br>Obviously I don't need to consult with<br>12:00:28 | Q. Okay. Is it a type of car; right?<br>20<br>12:03: 19 | | 21 Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>12:00:30 | A. Correct.<br>12:03:22<br>21 | | 22<br>Q. Okay. How do you decide when to consult<br>12:00:32 | Q. Isn't it true that Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>22<br>12:03:22 | | 23 with JI.Ar. Kwok Ho Wan's son about a purchase that<br>12:00:35 | 23 frequently travels by Maybach?<br>12:03:27 | | 24 Mr. Kwok Ho Wan wants you to make?<br>12:00:43 | A. Sir-- sir, I know Mileson want his father<br>12:03:32<br>24 | | A. I don't recall. But that happened.<br>25<br>12:00:46 | 25 to be safe and secured; so that is the thing I know.<br>12:03:38 | | Page 106 | Page 108 | | | | | | | | I<br>Q. Do you have any -- any thoughts about that?<br>12:00:49 | I But I don't know, like, frequency. I use that<br>12:03 :43 | | A Like, a legal fee?<br>12:00:53<br>2 | 2 Obviously, I am not following his father every day.<br>12:03:48 | | Q. No.<br>12:00:57<br>3 | 3 I cannot tell that<br>12:03:50 | | I'm -- I'm just asking you in general. I'm<br>12:00:58<br>4 | Q. Does -- does Golden Spring-- I'll ask you<br>12:03:51<br>4 | | 5 not asking you about legal fees yet, although<br>12:01 :00 | 5 to accept for purposes of this deposition today --<br>12:03:54 | | 6 hopefully we will get there.<br>12:01:05 | 6 just take my word for it that within the last month<br>12:03:59 | | I'm asking you about in general if<br>12:01:06<br>7 | 7 Mr. Kwok has traveled at least once by Maybach.<br>12:04:02 | | 8 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok says, hey, Yvette, I would like you<br>12:01:08 | 8<br>Okay?<br>12:04:08 | | 9 to buy me X, how do you know whether just to buy X or 12:01: 14 | Let's just assume that.<br>9<br>12:04:08 | | 10 whether to get his son's permission? How do you<br>12:01:21 | 10<br>My question for you is is that Maybach<br>12:04: 11 | | II decide?<br>12:01:30 | 11 transportation that Golden Spring (New York) has paid 12:04:17 | | A Well, yearly, like, his food and his coffee<br>12:01:30<br>12 | 12 for?<br>12:04: 19 | | 13 and then his transportation, those lifestyle were<br>12:01:34 | A. Golden Spring (New York) pays -- pays the --<br>12:04:21<br>13 | | 14 already approved by Mr. Qiang Guo; so you already --<br>12:01:40 | 14 the gasolines and-- yeah. The gasolines. That<br>12:04:24 | | 15 Golden Spring just to go ahead to buy or purchase and 12:01:44 | [5 IS --<br>12:04:31 | | 16 then report back to Mr. Qiang Guo; so anything<br>12:01:49 | 16<br>Q. Does --<br>12:04:31 | | 17 except -- besides -- except which words? Except<br>12:01:53 | 17<br>A. -- what transportation we are paying.<br>12:04:32 | | 18 that, we obviously, Golden Spring, need to escalate<br>12:01:57 | 18<br>Q. Does Golden Spring (New York) own any<br>12:04:35 | | 19 to Mr. Qiang Guo to get approval.<br>12:02:02 | 19 Maybach vehicles?<br>12:04:36 | | 20<br>Q. Understood.<br>12:02:04 | A. Oh, I -- I couldn't remember, like, if<br>20<br>12:04:38 | | And so ifl -- ifl have you correctly,<br>12:02:05<br>21 | 21 Maybach owned by Golden Spring or not. I mean,<br>12:04:47 | | 22 things like food, clothing, transportation -- those<br>12:02:08 | 22 Golden Spring owns a couple of cars. They all<br>12:04:50 | | 23 things do not require specific approval of<br>12:02: 15 | 23 ultimately owned by Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>12:04:53 | | 24 Mr. Qiang Guo and, in your mind, you can just buy<br>12:02: 19<br>25 them for Mr. Kwok without getting his permission.<br>12:02:26 | 24<br>Q. Yeah. I get that<br>12:04:56<br>25<br>Tell me about the cars that Golden Spring<br>12:04:57 |

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| | 1 owns. You just mentioned that there are a couple. | 12:04:59 | | 1 BY MR. HARBACH: | 12:07:53 | | |-------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------|------------| | 2<br>\Vhat are they? | 12:05:06 | | 2 | Q. Sure. | 12:07:53 | | | 3 | A I'm not car person; so I have to find out. | 12:05:07 | 3 | A. I do need a lunch break, yeah. | 12:07:53 | | | 4 | Q. Okay. Are they nice cars 7<br>12:05:11 | | 4 | Q. If--ifyouwouldliketotakeabreaknow, 12:07:56 | | | | 5<br>A I cannot tell. | 12:05:14 | | | 5 that is no problem at all. | 12:07:58 | | | 6 | Q. And you don't know whether one of the cars | 12:05:16 | 6 | MR HARBACH: I don't know if Suzanne or | | 12:08:02 | | | 7 that Golden Spring (New Yark) owns is a Maybach; is | 12:05:20 | | 7 Jeff who takes us off, but I will suggest reconvening 12:08:03 | | | | 8 thatright? | 12:05:24 | | | 8 at -- at 1 :00 o'clock. | 12:08:08 | | | 9 | A. I don't know because this is Mr. M1leson, | 12:05:26 | 9 | Is that amenable to folks? | 12:08: 10 | | | | 10 like Mr. Qiang Guo, he purchased directly | 12:05:31 | 10 | MR ROSEN: Yes. | 12:08: 13 | | | Q. Yeah.<br>11 | 12:05:34 | | 11 | MR HARBACH: Okay. | 12:08:15 | | | A So I'm not --<br>12 | 12:05:35 | | 12 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: | We are going off the | 12:08: 16 | | 13 | Q. I -- I -- I understand.<br>12:05:36 | | | 13 record. | 12:08: 17 | | | 14 | But I'm asking about Golden Spring | 12:05:37 | 14 | The time is 12:08. | 12:08: 17 | | | 15 (New York). | 12.05.40 | | 15 | (Luncheon recess taken.) | 13:01:33 | | | Okay?<br>16 | 12:05:40 | | 16 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: | We are back on the | 13:01:33 | | 17 | I'm asking about Golden Spring (New York) | 12.05.41 | | 17 record. | 13:01:36 | | | | 18 Limited, of which you are the president, treasurer, | 12:05 :44 | 18 | The time is 1:01. | 13:01 :36 | | | | 19 secretary, and director. I'm asking if you know | 12:05:48 | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH: | 13:01:40 | | | | 20 whether Golden Spring (New Yark) Limited owns | 12:05:52 | 20 | Q. Good afternoon, Ms. Wang -- Ms. Wang. | | 13:01:46 | | 21 a Maybach automobile. | 12:05:55 | | 21 | One little loose end that has nothing to do | 13:01:48 | | | 22<br>Do you know? | 12:05:57 | | | 22 with what I was asking you about before lunch. | | 13:01:53 | | 23 | 12 05:59<br>A. I don't recall. I have to find out. | | 23 | Okay? Do you know someone called Yu Yong? | | 13:01:56 | | 24 | Q. Okay. You have also told me that | 12:06:02 | | 24 That is Y-u Y-o-n-g. | 13:02:02 | | | | 25 Golden Spnng (New Yark) pays for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's | 12:06:07 | 25 | A. Yes. | 13:02:09 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Page 110 | | | | Page 112 | | | | | | | | | | 1 transportation; right? | | 12:06: 13 | 1 | Q. Okay. Who is that person? | 13:02:10 | | | A Correct.<br>2 | 12:06:15 | | 2 | A. I met her in New York before. | 13:02:13 | | | 3 | Q. And that would include transportation by | 12:06:16 | 3 | Q. Okay. Do you know what she does for | | 13:02: 17 | | 4 car; correct? | 12:06:20 | | | 4 aliving? | 13:02:25 | | | 5<br>A Correct. | 12:06:22 | | 5 | A. When I met with her, she was working | | 13:02:26 | | 6 | Q. That would include arranging for a leased | 12:06:24 | | 6 together with the family also. | 13 :02:29 | | | | 7 vehicle if that is how he wanted to travel; correct? | 12:06:32 | 7 | Q. The -- the Guo family? | 13:02:30 | | | 8 | A We pay the gasoline. | 12:06:37 | 8 | A. Yes. | 13:02:34 | | | 9 | Q. Yeah. I heard that I'm just trying to | 12:06:42 | 9 | Q. With whom specifically? | 13:02:35 | | | | 10 figure out who owns the vehicle, Ms. Wang. | 12:06:45 | 10 | A. With Mr. Qiang Guo. | 13:02:38 | | | 11 | Do you know whether Golden Spring (New York) 12:06:49 | | 11 | Q. Anyone else? | 13:02:44 | | | | 12 Limited has rented or leased a Maybach in order to | 12:06:52 | 12 | A. I believe with -- with Mr. Qiang Guo's | 13:02:45 | | | | 13 transport Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? Do you know? | 12:06:57 | | 13 father together -- | 13:02:49 | | | A I don't know.<br>14 | 12:07:02 | | 14 | Q. And-- | 13:02:51 | | | 15 | MR HARBACH: So Mr. -- Mr. Rosen, I'll take 12:07:10 | | 15 | A. -- but I don't have the details. | 13:02:52 | | | | 16 the witness up on her offer to get back to us on the | 12 :07: 15 | 16 | Q. Okay. And approximately when was that that | | 13:02:54 | | | 17 types of cars that Golden Spring (New York) owns, | 12:07: 19 | | 17 you met her? | 13:02:57 | | | | 18 and, in particular, whether they own any Maybach | 12:07:24 | 18 | A. 2015. | 13:02:58 | | | | 19 automobiles, if that is okay with you. | 12:07:28 | 19 | Q. Okay. Thank you. | 13:03:01 | | | 20 | MR ROSEN: We'll take it under advisement. | 12:07:31 | 20 | A new subject. | 13:03:04 | | | 21 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. | 12:07:33 | 21 | Who set up Golden Spring (New York) Limited? 13:03:07 | | | | 22 | MR ROSEN: Your request is -- is noted. | 12:07:33 | 22 | A. In my understanding, it was set up by | 13:03:13 | | | 23 | MR. HARBACH: All right Thank you. | 12:07:38 | | 23 Mr. Qiang Guo. | 13:03:19 | | | 24<br>25 I mean, it is 12:00. | THE WITNESS: Sir, can we have a break?<br>12:07:51 | 12:07:49 | 24 | Q. Who -- when you say it is your<br>25 understanding, do you know that or did somebody tell | 13:03:20 | 13 :03 :23 |

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| 1 you that?<br>13 :03 :26 | 1<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. What is the -- what<br>13:06:44 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>A. This is I learned afterwards. I believe<br>13:03:27 | 2 is the relevance of this, David?<br>13:06:46 | | 3 there will be --there will be law firms supporting<br>13:03:31 | MR. HARBACH: I'm trying to explore the<br>13:06:49<br>3 | | 4 by him, but he set up the company.<br>13:03:34 | 4 witness' most recent answer about the business<br>13:06:52 | | 5<br>Q. Why did he set up the company?<br>13:03:37 | 5 purpose of Golden Spring. She said that he -- that<br>13:06:55 | | 6<br>A. I got to know later on -- not, like, when he 13:03:39 | 6 he, Qiang Guo, created it to do X, Y, and Z. And I'm 13:06: 59 | | 7 set up the company -- he was trying to do business<br>13:03:46 | 7 trying to inquire about how long he was actually in<br>13:07:05 | | 8 outside of China, like, mainly in the U.S. here.<br>13:03:50 | 8 the country after Golden Spring was created. That is 13:07:09 | | 9<br>Q. What sort of business?<br>13:03:54 | 9 why I'm asking.<br>13:07:12 | | A. Like, business related to real estate,<br>13:03:56<br>10 | 10<br>MR. ROSEN: Just note for the record that we 13:07:13 | | 11 investment -- like a diversified business.<br>13:04:02 | 11 are all here in different locations at this<br>13:07: 14 | | Q. Okay. Who funded Golden Spring (New York)<br>13 :04:06<br>12 | 12 deposition. And in today's world where your -- where 13:07: 18 | | 13 when it was created?<br>13:04:11 | 13 your seat is doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot.<br>13:07:23 | | A. I learned afterwards Mr. Qiang Guo, he<br>14<br>13:04:12 | 14<br>But with that said, I would instruct the<br>13 :07:26 | | 15 arranged the fund -- fund the Golden Spring.<br>13:04:22 | 15 witness to answer.<br>13:07:29 | | Q. When you say he arranged it, do you mean<br>13:04:26<br>16 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:07:30 | | 17 that he, himself, provided the money?<br>13:04:29 | 17<br>Q. The --the question was when-- or how long<br>13:07:30 | | A. Hmmm. No.<br>13:04:34<br>18 | 18 has Mr. Qiang Guo lived in the UK.<br>13:07:36 | | He arranged via his -- another company.<br>13:04:35<br>19 | A. For years. I mean--<br>13:07:40<br>19 | | 20 I believe it is called Bravo Luck.<br>13:04:40 | 20<br>Q. Are you finished with your answer?<br>13:07:51 | | Q. I see.<br>13:04:44<br>21 | You said for years, maybe?<br>13:08:03<br>21 | | 22<br>And so your understanding is that the money<br>13:04:45 | 22<br>A. My -- my answer was not four, f-o-u-r, as<br>13:08:04 | | 23 that funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it<br>13:04:48 | 23 years. This is my answer.<br>13:08:04 | | 24 was created came from Bravo Luck?<br>13:04:55 | 24<br>Q. All right.<br>13:08:04 | | 25<br>A. That is what I learned.<br>13:05:00 | 25<br>A. I don't know how many, yeah.<br>13:08:06 | | Page 114 | Page 116 | | | | | | | | 1<br>Q. From whom?<br>13:05:01 | 1<br>Q. You don't know how many years?<br>13:08:06 | | A. From Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>13:05:03<br>2 | A. Correct.<br>13:08:08<br>2 | | 3<br>Q. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>13:05:05 | Q. Could it be more than ten years?<br>13:08:09<br>3 | | 4 about Bravo Luck?<br>13:05: 10 | A. I don't think so.<br>13:08:11<br>4 | | 5<br>A. Hmmm. I don't recall.<br>13:05: 13 | Q. How long, if -- if you know, how long after<br>5<br>13:08: 13 | | 6<br>Q. Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>13:05: 16 | 6 Golden Spring (New York) Limited was created did<br>13:08:24 | | 7 about the source of money that was used to fund<br>13:05:20 | 7 Mr. Guo -- Qiang Guo move to the UK?<br>13:08:28 | | 8 Golden Spring (New York) Limited when it was created? 13:05:24 8 | A. I cannot recall.<br>13:08:34 | | 9<br>A. No.<br>13:05:28 | 9<br>Q. All right. Do you know -- what can you tell 13:08:40 | | I don't recall I did that.<br>13:05:30<br>10 | 10 us about what Golden Spring (New York) Limited has<br>13:08:47 | | II<br>Q. Do you know how Bravo Luck got the money<br>13:05:34 | 11 done to advance the business purposes you just<br>13:08:50 | | 12 that you say funded Golden Spring (New York) Limited? 13:05:41 12 described? | 13:08:55 | | A. I don't know.<br>13:05:44<br>13 | A. Mr. Qiang Guo was in the United States in<br>13:08:55<br>13 | | 14<br>Q. What is -- what was Golden Spring<br>13:05:47 | 14 2015, and then he travels a lot also. And,<br>13:09:05 | | 15 (New York)'s business purpose when it was created?<br>13:05:54 | 15 obviously, he set up the company, and then we develop 13:09:12 | | A. Oh, Golden Spring was created as a family<br>13:05:57<br>16 | 16 business structure and plan from there; so that is<br>13:09:16 | | 17 office owned by Mr. Qiang Guo; so Mr. Qiang Guo was | 13:06:04 17 still his direction, which we have been doing until<br>13:09:22 | | 18 planning, as I said, to develop and expand the<br>13:06:09 | 18 his father started to do his whistle-blower moment.<br>13:09:28 | | 19 business in the United States, including, like, as<br>13:06:14 | 19<br>Q. What was the business plan in the beginning? 13:09:33 | | 20 I said, investment, real estate, and the business<br>13:06:21 | 20<br>A. Investment.<br>13:09:37 | | 21 he -- he was doing by then.<br>13:06:25 | Q. Okay. In, I believe, you mentioned real<br>13:09:41<br>21 | | 22<br>Q. Where does Mr. Qiang Guo live today? What<br>13:06:28 | 22 estate.<br>13:09:48 | | 23 country?<br>13:06:33 | 23<br>What else?<br>13:09:48 | | 24<br>A. He lives in UK.<br>13:06:38<br>Q. How long has he lived there?<br>25<br>13:06:41 | 24<br>A. We started from real estate. There was real 13:09:49<br>25 estate, like, investment.<br>13:09:53 |

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| | Q. Okay. So any other business purpose,<br>13:09:54 | I'd object on the -- on the grounds that I'm 13:13:18 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 besides investing money?<br>13:09:57 | 2 not sure that your use of the word client is -- is<br>13: 13:23 | | 3 | A. And operate as a family office in New York<br>13: 10:00 | 3 being understood.<br>13:13:25 | | | 4 here to support other family projects.<br>13:10:09 | Could you clarify that, please?<br>13:13:25<br>4 | | 5 | Q. Okay. You have mentioned earlier the<br>13:10:15 | MR. HARBACH: Sure.<br>13:13:29<br>5 | | | 6 support of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>13:10:19 | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13: 13:32 | | 7 | What other family projects has Golden Spring 13: 10:23 | 7<br>Q. Ms. Wang, do you know what I mean by the<br>13: 13:33 | | | 8 (New York) Limited supported?<br>13:10:27 | 8 word client?<br>13:13:36 | | 9 | A. Including their project -- real estate.<br>13:10:29 | A. Client means that you offer services to get<br>13:13:39<br>9 | | | 10 Like, including, like, interviews and handouts. The<br>13:10:39 | 10 paid.<br>13:13:43 | | | 11 architecture, designer, like, real estate-related<br>13:10:45 | | | | | Q. Okay. A moment ago you said that the client 13: 13 :44<br>11 | | | 12 vendors, and then we, like, facilitate and coordinate 13:10:50 | 12 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited was the family.<br>13:13:51 | | | 13 by them.<br>13:10:54 | Did you mean that in the sense that you just 13: 13: 5 5<br>13 | | 14 | Q. IsGoldenSpring(NewYork)Limiteda--<br>13:10:55 | 14 described, or did you mean that in a different way?<br>13: 13:59 | | | 15 afor-profitenterprise?<br>13:10:59 | A. I mean the client is the Guo family.<br>13:14:02<br>15 | | 16 | A. It is.<br>13: 11 :03 | 16 I mean, they -- they are, as I testified before,<br>13:14:06 | | 17 | Q. And what is its source of income?<br>13:11:03 | 17 like, a hundred family member. They all could be our 13: 14:12 | | 18 | A. Source of income? I mean, we are<br>13:11:08 | 18 clients. They are all business people.<br>13:14:15 | | 19 | a for-profit company, but we are not turning to,<br>13: 11: 16 | 19<br>Q. Okay.<br>13:14:18 | | | 20 like, make revenue yet; so the source of income is<br>13:11:23 | A. So as a client of Golden Spring, which<br>20<br>13:14:19 | | | 21 supposed to be, like, a -- we build up the project<br>13:11:26 | 21 I mean.<br>13:14:22 | | | 22 under the family plan, and then we start to make<br>13:11:31 | Q. Okay. Doyoumeanthatmembersofthe<br>22<br>13:14:23 | | | 23 profit from those projects -- investment projects.<br>13: 11 :36 | 23 family pay Golden Spring?<br>13:14:25 | | 24 | Q. Okay. So the -- the company invests money<br>13: 11 :40 | A. I mean if Golden Spring offered a service<br>24<br>13:14:31 | | | 25 and hopes to make money from investments.<br>13: 11 :43 | 25 and then helped them to invest successfully, yes.<br>13: 14:34 | | | Page 118 | Page 120 | | | | | | 1 | Is that it?<br>13: 11:47 | 1 Golden Spring would be paid.<br>13:14:39 | | 2 | A. That's part of the source of income, yes.<br>13:11:48 | Q. Okay. So now my question is is<br>13:14:40<br>2 | | | 3 Planned.<br>13:11:52 | 3 Mr.HoWanKwokpartofthefamilythatisaclient<br>13:14:45 | | 4 | Q. Does the -- does the company, Golden Spring<br>13:11:52 | 13:14:50 | | | | 4 of Golden Spring (New York) Limited? | | | 5 (New York) Limited, have any clients? Or is it just 13:11:57 | MR. ROSEN: Objection to form.<br>13:14:54<br>5 | | | 6 the family?<br>13:12:01 | It -- the -- is your question is he<br>13:14:58<br>6 | | 7 | A. I mean, family office typically, to our<br>13: 12:02 | 7 individually a client? Because what you asked is is<br>13:15:01 | | | 8 understanding, is support and serve for the family<br>13: 12:08 | 8 he part of the family that is a client.<br>13:15:05 | | | 9 business; so our clients are the family.<br>13: 12: 13 | MR. HARBACH: Well, I'm sorry for-- for--<br>13:15:08<br>9 | | 10 | Q. Okay. And that includes Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,<br>13:12:15 | 10 I'm really not meaning to be confusing.<br>13:15:11 | | | 11 does it not?<br>13:12:20 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:15:14 | | 12 | A. He is the person -- the owner of the company 13: 12:21 | 12<br>Q. I understood, Ms. Wang, you to say a moment<br>13:15:14 | | | 13 requesting Golden Spring to support; so Golden Spring 13: 12:28 | 13 ago that the family -- which is composed of numerous<br>13: 15: 17 | | | 14 does not, like, plan or, like, having profit from his 13:12:31 | 14 people, you said.<br>13:15:22 | | | 15 father, which, like, we didn'tthinkaboutthatand<br>13:12:39 | Thatthe family is a client of Golden Spring 13:15:22<br>15 | | | 16 how; right?<br>13:12:43 | 16 (New York) Limited; is that correct?<br>13: 15:26 | | 17 | Q. Well,youjustsaidamomentagothat<br>13:12:45 | 17<br>A. The family and their family member who are<br>13:15:29 | | | 18 Golden Spring (New York) limited's clients was the<br>13: 12:47 | 18 the business people; correct?<br>13: 15:36 | | | 19 family. And I ask you if that included<br>13:12:58 | They are the Golden Spring's clients. Of<br>19<br>13:15:37 | | | 20 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>13: 13:00 | 20 course, I don't mean that like in the minor kids;<br>13:15:40 | | 21 | The reason I asked that question is because<br>13: 13:01 | 21 right?<br>13:15:44 | | | 22 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the family, is he not? 13:13:04 22 | So I made that very clear.<br>13:15:44 | | 23 | A. So this is my answer. Golden Spring --<br>13:13:09 | Q. Is Mr. Ho Wan Kwok a member of that family?<br>23<br>13: 15:46 | | 24 | MR. ROSEN: Hold off answering, please, just 13:13:15 | A. He is one of the family member, yes.<br>24<br>13:15:50 | | | 25 for a second.<br>13: 13: 18 | 25<br>Q. To your knowledge, has Mr. Ho Wan Kwok ever 13:15:53 |

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1 contributed or paid any money to Golden Spnng 2 (New York) Limited? 3 A. No. 4 To my knowledge. 13:16:11 13:16:13 13:16:16 13:16:06 5 Q. To your knowledge, has any business 13:16:17 6 organization that 1Ar. Ho Wan Kwok owns or controls 13:16:26 7 ever contributed any money to Golden Spring 13:16:32 8 (New Yark) Limited? l\1R. ROSEN: Objection. You can answer the question. 13:16:36 13:16:39 13:16:40 9 10 11 TI-IE WITNESS: To my knowledge, no. 13:16:42 12 BY l\1R. HARBACH 13:16:45 13 Q. And you -- as the treasurer of Golden Spring 13: 16:49 14 (New York) Limited, would that be something you would 13:16:53 15 expect to know ifit had happened? 16 A. Since I was -- 17 l\1R. ROSEN. Object. 18 You can answer. 13.16.56 13:16:59 13.17.03 13:17:04 19 TI-IE WITNESS: Since I was appointed of 13:17:07 20 treasurer of Golden Spring, I didn't see any money 13:17: 11 21 come from Mr. Ho Wan Kwok And Golden Spring doesn't 13:17:13 22 look at him as a client; so he is a family member, 13: 17: 17 23 butheisnotourkindoflikeprospectiveclient. 13:17:21 24 He is the owner. He is the father of the owner, 13:17:25 25 like, it -- that's our understandmg. I BY MR. HARBACH: 2 Q. He, in fact, is the owner, isn't he, 3 Ms. Wang? MR. ROSEN: Objection. 13:17:31 13: 17:32 13:17:33 13:17:36 13: 17:37 **Page 122** 4 5 THE WITNESS: He is not the owner at all. 13: 17:38 6 BY MR. HARBACH: 13: 17:42 7 Q. Were you an employee or a director or 13:17:46 8 officer of Golden Spring at the time that it was 13:17:53 9 created? 13: 17:56 10 A You mean back to 2015, sir? 13:18:00 II Q. Yes. 13:18:04 12 A No. 13:18:05 13 Q. Returning to my question about Golden Spring 13: 18:06 14 (New York) Limited's source of income, is there 13:18:16 15 anything else in that category, other than returns on 13: 18:22 16 investment? 13: 18:26 17 A What do you mean? Like any other source of 13: 18:28 18 income besides what I reply to you before? 13:18:38 19 Q. Yes. 13:18:41 20 A Okay. So that would be our major source of 13:18:42 21 **income.** Like, a family office -- I mean, in my 13: 18:45 13:18:58 **2 else.** I'm asking you whether there was anything 13:19:00 **3** 4 **5** A. As far as I know, like, that is all I know. 13: 19:03 Q. Okay. 13:19:08 A. That is the plan. I mean, as a family 13:19:09 6 office -- right? -- we are supposed to do investment 13: 19: 12 7 and make revenue -- make revenue. I mean, I am not 13:19: 15 8 a law firm. I am not other, you know, service 13:19:18 9 company. And then any other source of income 13:19:20 10 I should be expect. 13: 19:22 11 Q. Does Golden Spring (New York) Limited have 13: 19:24 12 any bank accounts? 13:19:28 13 A. You are asking which time apparent, sir? 13: 19:30 14 Q. I'm asking currently. 13:19:41 15 A. Yes. 13:19:43 16 Q. How many? 13:19:43 17 A. One. 13: 19:46 18 Q. At which bank? 13:19:52 19 MR. ROSEN: Objection. There are security 13:19:55 20 issues involved here, and we're -- I understand that 13:19:59 21 Golden Spring's bank accounts have been shut down as 13:20:06 22 part of what has been described to me as a harassment 13:20:09 23 scheme; so I would ask at this point not to 13:20: 13 24 disclose --the witness not to disclose the location 13:20:16 25 of the bank account 13:20:19 Page 124 MR. HARBACH: Okay. Scott, I'm not meaning 13:20:20 2 to disregard your instruction. I'm going to ask 13:20:25 3 another question, and if you want to include this 13:20:28 4 under your objection, please do. But I'm going to 13:20:31 5 ask this one. 6 BY MR. HARBACH: 13:20:34 13:20:35 7 Q. Ms. Wang, is Golden Spring (New York)'s bank 13:20:35 8 account with a U.S. bank? 9 A. Yes. 13:20:38 13:20:42 10 Q. What is the approximate current balance in 13:20:43 11 that account? 13:20:54 12 A. I mean, for the safety, same reason. I am 13:20:57 13 very hesitant to tell you because PAX already, like, 13:21:05 14 harassed all Golden Spring's bank account. 13:21:09 15 16 17 So we are talking about DIP loan; right? 13:21:14 Q. Well, yeah. 13:21:18 You know the reasons that the -- that the 13 :21: 19 18 deposition has been noticed, and I'm not going to get 13:21:21 19 into a debate with you about whether the question is 13 :21 :26 20 proper. 13:21:28 21 My question is what is the approximate 13:21:30 22 understanding you already do investment; so when you 13: 18:51 22 balance in Golden Spring's one bank account in the 13:21:33 23 investment, you get revenue, and then we got paid, 13:18:54 23 United States? 13:21:38 24 and so we got 25 Q. I understand that. 13:18:57 13:18:57 24 MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object and would 13:21:41 25 like, ifit is acceptable to counsel, to take a short 13:21:44 Page 123 Page 125

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| 1 recess to discuss this with my client.<br>13:21:50 | 1 finance department, they are doing that.<br>13:36:34 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | MR. HARBACH: Of course. No problem at all. 13:21:52<br>2 | 2<br>Q. Well, you are the treasurer; right?<br>13:36:37 | | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the<br>3<br>13:21:55 | 3<br>MR. ROSEN: Excuse me. I thought this was<br>13:36:40 | | 4 record.<br>13:21:56 | 4 questions setting aside the bank account. The<br>13 :36:42 | | The time is 1 :21.<br>13:21 :56<br>5 | 5 question was what is -- what are the values of the<br>13:36:45 | | (Short recess taken.)<br>13:22:00<br>6 | 6 liquid assets, setting aside the bank account.<br>13:36:47 | | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the<br>13:33:59<br>7 | 7<br>MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I meant -- and I can't 13:36:50 | | 8 record.<br>13:34:01 | 8 believe I said -- if! didn't, I'm mistaken. I meant 13 :36: 53 | | 9<br>The time is 1:34.<br>13:34:01 | 9 the identity ofthe bank. I'm not -- I'm not<br>13:36:56 | | 10<br>MR. HARBACH: Scott, did you want to put<br>13:34:06 | 10 interested in getting the identification of the bank. 13:36:59 | | 11 anything on the record here or no?<br>13:34: 11 | 11 I'm just trying to figure out how much money<br>13:37:02 | | MR. ROSEN: No.<br>13:34: 14<br>12 | 12 Golden Spring (New York) Limited has. That's it.<br>13:37:05 | | I did not need to put anything on the<br>13:34: 15<br>13 | 13 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:37:02 | | | | | 14 record.<br>13:34:18 | 14<br>Q. How much money does the company have? Do<br>13:37: 11 | | 15 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:34:18 | 15 you know?<br>13:37: 13 | | Q. Okay. Ms. Wang, did you speak with anyone<br>13:34: 19<br>16 | A. The money enough to support all of the daily 13:37: 14<br>16 | | 17 else during the break, besides your lawyer?<br>13:34:21 | 17 operation.<br>13:37:18 | | A I only talked with Mr. Scott Rosen.<br>18<br>13:34:23 | 18<br>Q. Are you -- are you unwilling to tell me how<br>13:37: 18 | | 19<br>Q. Okay. Thank you.<br>13 :34:25 | 19 much money Golden Spring has or do you not know how<br>13:37:2\$ | | 20<br>The pending question before the break was<br>13:34:26 | 20 much money Golden Spring has?<br>13:37:27 | | 21 what is the approximate balance in Golden Spring<br>13:34:31 | MR.ROSEN: Yeah. 1--Ihavetoobject<br>21<br>13:37:29 | | 22 (New York) Limited's one U.S. bank account?<br>13:34:37 | 22 here. There are concerns about the integrity and<br>13:37:31 | | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object and instruct 13:34:45<br>23 | 23 usability of Golden Spring's assets in light of<br>13:37:36 | | 24 the witness not to answer that specific question<br>13:34:47 | 24 creditor activity that has been conducted by PAX; so<br>13:37:41 | | 25 because of Golden Spring's concerns about maintaining 13:34:50 | 25 these are --these are sensitive issues. If-- if<br>13:37:46 | | Page 126 | Page 128 | | I the integrity and usability of the bank account in<br>13:34:54 | I you want to get to questions about where is the loan<br>13:37:50 | | 2 light of credits' rights actions that have been taken 13:34:58 | 2 proceeds going to come from, then we can -- we can<br>13:37:52 | | 3 by -- by PAX.<br>13:35:03 | 3 certainly go there. But with respect to its current<br>13:37:56 | | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:35:05 | 4 assets, at this point the credit just -- just<br>13:38:00 | | Q. Leaving aside the identity of the bank,<br>5<br>13:35:06 | 5 outweighs any -- any -- any relevancy.<br>13:38:06 | | 6 approximately how much value in liquid assets does<br>13:35:11 | MR.HARBACH: 1--Ithinklunderstandyour 13:38:10<br>6 | | 7 Golden Spring (New York) Limited own?<br>13:35:20 | 7 objection, and rather than engage it fully, I will<br>13:38: 13 | | 8<br>A Golden Spring as -- I mean, enough funds to<br>13:35:23 | 8 just note that we strongly disagree. But if you are<br>13:38: 16 | | 9 support Golden Spring, the operation. I mean, we<br>13 :35 :33 | 9 instructing the witness not to answer, I'll try and<br>13:38:20 | | | | | 10 don't have cash flow issue, so<br>13:35:37 | 10 move on.<br>13:38:23 | | Q. All right. And your judgment about what<br>13:35:40<br>11 | MR. ROSEN: Thank you.<br>13:38:24<br>11 | | 12 might be a cash flow issue and our judgment about<br>13:35:44 | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:38:26 | | 13 what might be a cash flow issue and Judge Manning's<br>13:35:48 | Q. Approximately how much profit did<br>13:38:32<br>13 | | 14 judgment about what might be a cash flow issue could<br>13:35:54 | 14 Golden Spring (New York) make in the last year?<br>13:38:35 | | 15 be three very different things.<br>13:35:57 | | | | A. Because of the -- the entire, like, PAX --<br>15<br>13:38:41 | | And so that is why I'm asking approximately<br>13:35:59<br>16 | 16 right?-- this case, I mean, PAX obviously subpoenaed 13:38:49 | | 17 how much money in liquid assets does Golden Spring<br>13 :36:03 | 17 all Golden Spring's bank. And then in my<br>13:38:53 | | 18 (New York) Limited own?<br>13:36:09 | 18 understanding, my console device, like, PAX didn't<br>13:38:57 | | 19<br>A The balance is changing every day because<br>13:36: 12 | 19 get anything; so -- because PAX specifically hurt our 13:39:01 | | 20 things happen every day; so I don't want to<br>13:36: 19 | 20 bank relationship in the last year, as you said,<br>13:39:05 | | 21 speculate. Obviously, I did not check the bank<br>13:36:22 | 21 I mean, we didn't make profit last year.<br>13:39:07 | | 22 balance right now; so I cannot say.<br>13:36:25 | 22<br>Q. You did not make a profit last year?<br>13:39:10 | | 23<br>Q. What -- what -- when -- when was the last<br>13:36:27 | 23<br>A. Correct.<br>13:39: 14 | | 24 time you checked the balance?<br>13:36:29 | 24<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>13:39: 16 | | A I don't recall. It is the financial --<br>13:36:30<br>25 | 25 Ill |

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| 1 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:39:17 | 1<br>Q. Okay. Do you know what DIP stands for?<br>13:42:19 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | Q. Was there a -- was there a loss of -- of--<br>2<br>13:39:18 | 2<br>A. Yes.<br>13:42:27 | | 3 there was a loss of approximately how much last year? 13:39:20 | 3<br>Q. What does it stand for?<br>13:42:29 | | 4 Do you understand the question?<br>13:39:33 | A. It is a DIP loan displaying between --<br>4<br>13:42:31 | | A. Of course.<br>13:39:34<br>5 | 5 I mean, I'm not a lawyer; right?<br>13:42:42 | | Q. So what is --<br>13:39:37<br>6 | It is a loan between the lender and the<br>6<br>13:42:43 | | A. But I don't know why it is related to this<br>13:39:38<br>7 | 7 debtor.<br>13:42:48 | | 8 as well. It is sensitive information, which I have<br>13:39:42 | Q. Thirty seconds ago you said to me that you<br>13:42:49<br>8 | | 9 to keep it.<br>13:39:44 | 9 know what DIP stands for. It is okay if you don't.<br>13:42:53 | | Q. You are -- so you are -- you are -- you are<br>13:39:45<br>10 | 10 I'm just asking for an honest answer.<br>13:43:00 | | 11 unwilling to answer what the size of Golden Spring<br>13:39:46 | Do you know what DIP stands for? It is an<br>13 :43:04<br>11 | | 12 (New York) Limited's loss was last year; is that<br>13:39:51 | 12 acronym.<br>13:43:09 | | 13 right?<br>13:39:57 | A. It is a loan. It is a loan. That's my<br>13:43:09<br>13 | | 14<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. This is not an asset 13:39:57 | 14 answer.<br>13:43:13 | | 15 disclosure deposition for Golden Spring. And -- and<br>13:40:01 | Q. Okay. It stands for debtor in possession.<br>13:43:13<br>15 | | 16 in light of the pending litigation that is already<br>13:40:03 | 16<br>Okay?<br>13:43:17 | | 17 out there, questions like this are overstepping what<br>13:40:05 | It is not a secret, but -- I'll keep going.<br>17<br>13:43:19 | | 18 the scope of this deposition is supposed to be,<br>13:40:09 | Who made the request to Golden Spring<br>18<br>13 :43:26 | | 19 which, again, this is a contested matter in<br>13:40:11 | 19 (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing that is 13:43:32 | | 20 a bankruptcy case for a DIP loan, which is being<br>13:40: 15 | 20 at issue here?<br>13:43:37 | | 21 granted on a fully subordinated basis; so that's --<br>13 :40: 19 | A. The owner of Golden Spring (New York).<br>13:43:39<br>21 | | | | | 22 that is what we are here today on, not asset<br>13:40:23 | Q. The owner of Golden Spring (New York) made<br>22<br>13:43:44 | | 23 disclosure.<br>13:40:27 | 23 a request to Golden Spring (New York) for DIP<br>13:43:52 | | 24<br>MR. HARBACH: Is that an instruction not to<br>13:40:34 | 24 financing? Is that your testimony?<br>13:43:57 | | 25 answer, Scott?<br>13:40:36<br>Page 130 | 25<br>A. I don't understand your question.<br>13:44:00<br>Page 132 | | | | | | | | MR. ROSEN: Yes, it is.<br>13:40:37 | Q. Whoaskedfortheloan?<br>I<br>13:44:05 | | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:40:39 | A. I was not involved in this loan negotiation. 13:44:10<br>2 | | Q. Who made the requests to Golden Spring<br>13:40:39<br>3 | Q. Do you know who made the request for the<br>13:44:15<br>3 | | 4 (New York) for debtor-in-possession financing?<br>13:40:42 | 4 loan?<br>13:44:20 | | | | | A. I -- can I ask a translator to help me<br>13:40:47<br>5 | A. I was not involved in the negotiation of<br>13:44:22<br>5 | | 6 understand this question?<br>13:40:53 | 6 this loan. I just got instruction and advice from<br>13 :44:28 | | Q. Of course.<br>13:40:55<br>7 | 7 the owner of Golden Spring.<br>13:44:32 | | MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, I'll repeat it.<br>13:40:56<br>8 | Q. Okay. Is the answer to this question -- is<br>13:44:34<br>8 | | Who made the request to Golden Spring<br>13:41:00<br>9 | 9 the answer to my question you don't know?<br>13:44:39 | | 10 (New York) Limited for debtor-in-possession<br>13:41:02 | 10<br>A. I was not involved.<br>13:44:41 | | 11 financing?<br>13:41:09 | Q. You know what? Let's use the interpreter.<br>13 :44:42<br>11 | | THE INTERPRETER: (Interprets question.)<br>13:41:42<br>12 | MR. HARBACH: Ms. Johnston, can you -- well, 13:44:48<br>12 | | THE CHECK INTERPRETER: Can the check<br>13 | 13 :41 :42 13 let's do it this way.<br>13:44:53 | | 14 interpreter help with that term?<br>13:41:45 | 14 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:44:57 | | THE INTERPRETER: Sure.<br>13:41:48<br>15 | Q. Do you know who made the request to<br>13:44:57<br>15 | | THE WITNESS: From the interpreter<br>13:41:55<br>16 | 16 Golden Spring (New York) Limited for the loan that is 13:44:59 | | 17 understanding, it is debtor's loan; right? Debtor's<br>13:41:57 | 17 the subject of today's deposition?<br>13:45:03 | | 18 position. Debtor's loan.<br>13:42:01 | 18<br>A. I don't have personal knowledge.<br>13:45:09 | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:42:01 | Q. Has anyone told you who made the loan-- who 13:45:11<br>19 | | 20<br>Q. Well, Ms. -- Ms. Wang, on several occasions<br>13:42:01 | 20 made the request for the loan that is the subject of 13:45: 19 | | 21 today you have pointed out to me that we are here to<br>13: 42 :03 | 21 today's deposition?<br>13:45:22 | | 22 talk about a DIP loan.<br>13:42:09 | 22<br>A. Has anyone told me?<br>13:45:24 | | 23<br>Do you know what a DIP loan is?<br>13:42:10 | 23<br>Q. Well, you said you didn't have personal<br>13:45:31 | | 24<br>A. Yes.<br>13:42:15 | 24 knowledge.<br>13:45:33 | | It is a loan between the debtor and lender.<br>25<br>13:42: 16<br>Page 131 | 25<br>A. Yes.<br>13:45:35<br>Page 133 |

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| 1<br>Q. And I know what that -- and I know what that 13:45:35 | 1<br>A. Golden Spring has been the litigation<br>13:48:49 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 means. | 2 funding for Mr. Qiang Guo's father, I mean, for | | 13:45:39 | 13:48:56 | | So I am asking you whether you have ever<br>13:45:39<br>3 | 3 several years. Mr. Qiang Guo made the decision,<br>13:49:01 | | 4 learned from anyone else who made the request for the 13 :45 :42 | 4 given the short time apparent. As the president of<br>13:49:05 | | 5 loan that is the subject of today's deposition. | 5 the company, I am aligned with that, and he knew and | | 13:45:45 | 13:49:09 | | A. I heard this from Mr. Qiang Guo about his<br>13:45:53<br>6 | 6 he knows I am going to align with that.<br>13:49:13 | | 7 DIP loan.<br>13:45:58 | Q. I see.<br>13:49:15<br>7 | | Q. Who did he say requested the DIP loan? | A. So no need -- | | 13:45:59 | 13:49:16 | | 8 | 8 | | A. He mentioned his father -- his father's | Q. And is that -- | | 13 :46:05 | 13:49:16 | | 9 | 9 | | 10 attorney. | A. No need to argue that, yeah, if that is what 13:49: 17 | | 13:46:16 | 10 | | | | | Q. Do you recall that attorney's name?<br>13:46:17<br>11 | 11 you are looking for.<br>13:49:20 | | A. I don't recall. He didn't tell me, and | 12 | | 12 | Q. I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- you know, I'm not | | 13:46:20 | 13:49:21 | | 13 I don't recall. | 13 trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to | | 13:46:23 | 13:49:22 | | Q. When was that request made, if you know?<br>14<br>13:46:24 | 14 understand what happened.<br>13:49:25 | | A. In March. | And so how about this? | | 13:46:33 | 13:49:28 | | 15 | 15 | | Q. Of what year? | 16 | | 13:46:41 | You understand that litigation funding in | | 16 | 13:49:31 | | A. Of this year.<br>17<br>13:46:43 | 17 the past that Golden Spring may have provided to<br>13 :49:37 | | Q. Were you -- as president, secretary,<br>13:46:45<br>18 | 18 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is different from the DIP loan that<br>13:49:46 | | 19 treasurer, and director of Golden Spring (New York) | 19 we are talking about today? You understand that | | 13:46:53 | 13:49:49 | | 20 Limited -- involved in the decision about whether to | 20 those are two different things; right? | | 13 :46: 58 | 13:49:51 | | 21 provide DIP financing to the debtor?<br>13:47:03 | A. Correct.<br>13:49:54<br>21 | | A. I was advised by Mr. Qiang Guo afterwards. | 22 | | 22 | Q. Okay. And so I would like to focus just on | | 13:47:06 | 13:49:54 | | 23 That was a quite short time period. And he handled; | 23 the DIP loan and not litigation financing that may | | 13:47:16 | 13:49:58 | | 24 so the answer to you is I was not involved. | 24 have occurred in the past. | | 13:47:24 | 13:50:03 | | 25 | 25 | | Q. Were you consulted by Mr. Guo -- | Do you understand? | | 13:47:27 | 13:50:05 | | Page 134 | Page 136 | | | | | | | | I Mr. Qiang Guo on the decision about whether<br>13:47:32 | A. Yes.<br>13:50:06<br>I | | 2 Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP<br>13:47:36 | Q. Okay. And so do I have it right that<br>13:50:10<br>2 | | 3 financing to the debtor here?<br>13:47:40 | 3 according to you, the decision about whether to agree 13:50: 13 | | A. What do you mean, consulted?<br>4<br>13:47:42 | 4 to the DIP loan for the debtor was Mr. Qiang Guo's<br>13:50:20 | | 5<br>Q. Do you know what consulted means?<br>13:47:45 | 5 decision? Correct?<br>13:50:27 | | A. Of course I know. | A. He made a decision, obviously on behalf of | | 6 | 6 | | 13:47:48 | 13:50:34 | | | | | 7<br>Q. Okay. So were you consulted by<br>13:47:49 | 7 Golden Spring, and he is the owner of the company.<br>13:50:41 | | 8 Mr. Qiang Guo about the decision on whether | 8 And we're aligned. | | 13:47:53 | 13:50:43 | | 9 Golden Spring (New York) would agree to provide DIP<br>13:47:59 | 9<br>Q. Okay. And you are the president, and all<br>13:50:45 | | 10 financing to the debtor? | 10 those other titles, of Golden Spring (New York) | | 13:48:03 | 13:50:49 | | II<br>A. You mean he -- when he was making the<br>13:48:05 | 11 Limited; correct?<br>13:50:52 | | 12 decision?<br>13:48:08 | A. Correct.<br>13:50:58<br>12 | | Q. Well, we're going to get to who made the | 13 | | 13:48:09 | Q. Have you ever disagreed with Mr. Qiang Guo | | 13 | 13:50:59 | | 14 decision. I'm trying to figure out whether you were | 14 about a decision that he has made? | | 13:48:14 | 13:51:02 | | 15 involved and, ifso, how. You told me a couple of<br>13:48:18 | A. Yes, of course.<br>13:51:03<br>15 | | 16 minutes ago that you were not involved with the | 16 | | 13:48:23 | Q. Okay. And did he solicit your agreement for 13:51:06 | | 17 decision. | 17 this decision? | | 13:48:25 | 13:51:08 | | I'm asking if Mr. Qiang Guo spoke to you | 18 | | 18 | A. For this DIP loan decision, you mean? | | 13:48:26 | 13:51:09 | | 19 about the decision.<br>13:48:30 | 19<br>Q. Uh-huh.<br>13:51:13 | | 20 | 20 | | A. Yes. | A. No. | | 13:48:33 | 13:51:14 | | He spoke to me about the decision. | Why? | | 13:48:34 | 13:51:19 | | 21 | 21 | | 22 | 22 | | Q. Before he made it or after? | Q. He just -- he told you -- | | 13:48:36 | 13:51:20 | | 23 | 23 | | A. After. | A. Why? | | 13:48:40 | 13:51:21 | | 24<br>Q. And am I right that the decision was his,<br>13:48:41 | 24<br>Q. He told you -- he told you about it after he 13:51:22 | | 25 not yours? Correct? | 25 had made a decision; correct? | | 13:48:47 | 13:51:24 |

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| 1 | A. He briefed me what happened.<br>13:51:26 | 1<br>Do you talk to him twenty times a day?<br>13:54: 16 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | Q. What did he tell you?<br>13:51:30 | 2<br>A. Obviously not.<br>13:54:19 | | 3 | A. About this DIP loan, and then he didn't have 13:51 :31 | Q. Well, it is not obvious because you won't<br>13:54:20<br>3 | | | 4 enough time within the short limit of time. He took<br>13:51:38 | 4 answer the question.<br>13:54:22 | | | 5 care of that.<br>13:51:42 | How often do you speak to him?<br>13:54:23<br>5 | | 6 | Q. Okay.<br>13:51:43 | MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>13:54:27<br>6 | | 7 | A. So he always advise me with something in the 13:51:44 | THE WITNESS: As needed.<br>13:54:28<br>7 | | | 8 short limit of time or urgency kind of like it.<br>13:51:47 | MR. ROSEN: Counsel, please specify a time<br>13:54:29<br>8 | | 9 | Q. Okay.<br>13:51:51 | 9 frame.<br>13:54:32 | | 10 | A. And then he took it like that. He briefed<br>13:51:52 | 10<br>MR. HARBACH: Sure.<br>13:54:33 | | | 11 me. That's it.<br>13:51:56 | 11 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>13:54:34 | | 12 | Q. Okay. And I will ask you one more time what 13:51 :57 | Q. From the moment you learned about the DIP<br>12<br>13:54:34 | | | 13 he said when he briefed you, and then I'll -- I'll<br>13:52:01 | 13 loan from some attorney until today, how frequently<br>13:54:37 | | | 14 try this another way.<br>13:52:04 | 14 have you spoken with Mr. Kwok Ho Wan?<br>13:54:44 | | 15 | A. Okay.<br>13:52:06 | 15<br>A. Oh, I think I met him, like, more than<br>13:54:51 | | 16 | Q. What did he say when he briefed you, if you<br>13:52:06 | 16 a week ago -- a week ago.<br>13:54:55 | | | 17 remember? I mean, this was, what, a month ago?<br>13:52:09 | 17<br>Q. Okay. That's one time.<br>13:54:58 | | 18 | A. So what are you asking about? Like, when<br>13: 5 2: 14 | 18<br>Any other times you can think of?<br>13:55:04 | | | 19 the brief happened or the DIP loan happened, sir?<br>13:52:16 | 19<br>A. I don't recall.<br>13:55:07 | | 20 | Q. Fifteen seconds ago you told me a couple of 13:52: 18 | 20<br>Q. On that one occasion that you do recall, did 13:55:10 | | | 21 times that Mr. Qiang Guo briefed you.<br>13:52:22 | 21 you discuss the DIP loan with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>13:55:15 | | 22 | Do you remember that?<br>13:52:26 | 22<br>A. No.<br>13:55: 19 | | 23 | A. Yes.<br>13:52:27 | 23<br>Q. When you saw Mr. Kwok most recently-- you<br>13:55:40 | | 24 | Q. What did he say when he briefed you?<br>13:52:28 | 24 said it was about a week ago -- was that in the<br>13:55:45 | | 25 | A. He said he retained attorney and worked<br>13:52:32 | 25 Golden Spring (New York) offices?<br>13:55:48 | | | Page 138 | Page 140 | | | I together with the lenders' attorney and then -- to<br>13:52:45 | A. Yes.<br>13:55:52<br>I | | | 2 take care of the DIP loan. And that is what he told<br>13:52:48 | Q. Okay. Do you recall what you did discuss<br>13:55:52 | | | | | | | 3 me.<br>13:52:53 | 2<br>3 with him on that occasion?<br>13:55:56 | | 4 | Q. Okay. Was that the first time you had heard 13:52:53 | A. We just -- like, I send my regards, like,<br>13:55:58<br>4 | | | 5 about the DIP loan?<br>13:52:57 | 5 social.<br>13:56:09 | | 6 | 13:52:59<br>A. No. | And he asked, are you doing good; right?<br>6<br>13:56:10 | | 7 | Q. Who was the first person you heard about it 13:53:01 | 7<br>So that's it, yeah.<br>13:56:13 | | | 8 from?<br>13:53:05 | 8<br>We chat -- and he chat whether I am safe,<br>13:56:14 | | 9 | A. I heard from the attorneys -- our attorneys. 13:53:06 | 9 and I did the same. That's it. We didn't -- we<br>13:56: 17 | | 10 | Q. Okay. Before this conversation with<br>13:53:10 | 10 didn't chat about other stuff. I don't -- we didn't. 13:56:20 | | | 11 Qiang Guo?<br>13:53: 13 | Q. Okay. And that was it, just -- just, like,<br>13:56:23<br>11 | | 12 | A. Correct. Yes.<br>13:53:14 | 12 hi, how are you, that sort of thing?<br>13:56:26 | | 13 | Q. Have you ever spoken with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>13:53:23 | A. Yes.<br>13:56:29<br>13 | | | 14 about the DIP loan ever?<br>13:53:26 | 14<br>Obviously he was here, I believe, like,<br>13:56:29 | | 15 | A. I don't recall.<br>13:53:29 | 15 meeting his attorneys. And I -- because this is my<br>13:56:33 | | 16 | Q. Is it possible that you have?<br>13:53:32 | 16 office; so I arranged the office, like, you know,<br>13:56:39 | | 17 | A. Unlikely. I don't recall.<br>13:53:36 | 17 like, take care of them; like, you know, arrange<br>13:56:44 | | 18 | Q. How often do you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 13:53:48 18 their food and coffee, those kinds of stuff; so my | 13:56:46 | | 19 | A. Oh, we meet as needed.<br>13:53:51 | 19 office did that for them.<br>13:56:49 | | 20 | Q. A few times a week?<br>13:53:56 | 20<br>Q. Your office or you?<br>13:56:51 | | 21 | A. As needed.<br>13:54:00 | A. My office. I instructed my office to do<br>13:56:52<br>21 | | 22 | Q. More or less than a few times a week?<br>13:54:02 | 22 that.<br>13:56:58 | | 23 | A. As needed.<br>13:54:07 | 23<br>Q. Okay. You have -- in your capacity as<br>13:56:58 | | 24 | Q. I mean, as needed could be twenty times<br>13:54:11 | 24 president and so forth of Golden Spring --you know<br>13:57: 16 | | | 25 a day, Ms. Wang.<br>13:54: 14 | 25 what I mean by and so forth; right?<br>13:57:20 |

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| 1<br>A.<br>I don't really know that. | 13:57:23 | | | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:00:32 | |-----------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------|----------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>Q.<br>Okay. | 13:57:25 | | 2 | Q. Did Mr. Qiang Guo ever tell you how the<br>14:00:32 | | 3<br>What means so forth?<br>A. | 13:57:26 | | | 3 \$8 million figure was arrived at?<br>14:00:35 | | Q.<br>Sure.<br>4 | 13:57:27 | | 4 | A. (In English) No.<br>14:00:38 | | 5 | I mean all those other titles, president, | 13:57:29 | 5 | Q. Are you familiar with the terms of the DIP<br>14:00:52 | | 6 secretary, treasurer, director. | 13:57:33 | | | 6 loan?<br>14:01:00 | | You hold all four titles; right?<br>7 | 13:57:35 | | 7 | A. You just asked me, yes. Now, yes.<br>14:01:01 | | A. Correct.<br>8 | 13:57:37 | | 8 | MR. HARBACH: Let's use the interpreter,<br>14:01: 11 | | 9 | Q. Okay. And you are the only president; | 13:57:38 | | 9 please.<br>14:01:13 | | 10 correct? | 13:57:40 | | 10 | Ms. Johnston, could you please ask: Are you 14:01: 15 | | A. Correct.<br>11 | 13:57:41 | | | 11 familiar with the terms of the DIP loan?<br>14:01:19 | | Q. The only treasurer; correct?<br>12 | 13:57:42 | | 12 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)<br>14:01:34 | | A. Yes.<br>13 | 13:57:44 | | 13 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)<br>14:01:34 | | 14 | Q. Okay. And what decisions are you empowered | 13:57:44 | | 14 This was my first time involved in this matter; so<br>14:0 I: 50 | | 15 to make in those roles without Qiang Guo's | | 13:58:00 | | 15 I know it was a loan. But! am unfamiliar with the<br>14:01:54 | | 16 permission? | 13:58:06 | | | 16 terms.<br>14:01:58 | | 17 | A. I make most of the daily operation decisions 13:58:06 | | | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:02:05 | | | 18 in here. Of course, I will brief him when we meet or 13:58: 15 | | 18 | Q. Have you read the DIP loan agreement?<br>14:02:05 | | | 19 chat, but I made the, like, daily operation decision | 13:58:19 | 19 | A. (In English) Briefly, I went through, yes.<br>14:02:08 | | 20 by myself in here. | 13:58:25 | | 20 | Q. When was that?<br>14:02:17 | | 21 | Q. How much is the -- the DIP loan that is at | 13:58:26 | 21 | A. You mean when or what?<br>14:02: 18 | | 22 issue in this case? | 13:58:29 | | 22 | Q. I'm sorry.<br>14:02:23 | | A. The DIP loan is \$8 million U.S.<br>23 | | 13:58:30 | 23 | When? When did you go through it briefly?<br>14:02:24 | | 24<br>Q. And who did you learn that from? | | 13:58:39 | 24 | A. Oh, when I was -- I prepped with the<br>14:02:28 | | 25<br>A. Who did I got this from? From | | 13:58:41 | | 25 counsels, I believe.<br>14:02:35 | | | | Page 142 | | Page 144 | | I Mr. Qiang Guo. | 13:58:46 | | I | Q. Okay. And how long ago was that?<br>14:02:36 | | 2 | Q. Okay. Do you know where the \$8 million | 13:58:46 | 2 | A. l'msorry.<br>14:02:40 | | 3 figure came from? | 13:58:54 | | 3 | What was your question? How long ago was<br>14:02:44 | | 4 | A. When Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, he advise he | 13:58:55 | | 4 that?<br>14:02:47 | | | 5 will take care of that also, as we always did. Like | 13:59:06 | 5 | Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>14:02:47 | | | 6 the fund; like, for example, like, you asked did his | 13:59:10 | 6 | I'm -- I'm -- I'm -- I'm not interested in<br>14:02:49 | | | 7 father ask for buy something, like, he will -- I have 13:59: 14 | | | 7 what any of the attorneys told you, but I am<br>14:02:51 | | | 8 to escalate for him. He will make a decision for him 13:59: 17 | | | 8 interested in when you met with them.<br>14:02:54 | | 9 that way. | 13:59:21 | | 9 | So when was it that you read the DIP loan<br>14:02:56 | | 10 | Q. I'm trying to understand, if you know, how | 13:59:22 | | 10 agreement?<br>14:03:00 | | II the figure of\$8 million was arrived at. | | 13:59:29 | 11 | A. When, you ask; right?<br>14:03:01 | | 12 | MR. ROSEN: Could we have the -- the | 13:59:33 | 12 | Q. Correct.<br>14:03:03 | | 13 interpreter on that? | 13:59:35 | | 13 | A. Before this deposition. Yesterday.<br>14:03:04 | | 14 | I believe the witness may have misunderstood 13:59:36 | | 14 | Q. Yesterday?<br>14:03:10 | | 15 the question the first time. | 13:59:39 | | 15 | A. Yes.<br>14:03:13 | | MR. HARBACH: Sure.<br>16 | | 13:59:41 | 16 | Q. Was -- was yesterday the first time you saw<br>14:03:14 | | 17 | Ms. Johnston, do you need me to repeat it? | 13:59:42 | | 17 the DIP loan agreement?<br>14:03: 19 | | 18 | THE INTERPRETER: Yes, please. | 13:59:47 | 18 | A. I know it existed before yesterday, but<br>14:03:23 | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH: | | 13:59:48 | | 19 I didn't pay too much of attention until my attorney, 14:03:28 | | 20 | Q. Ms. Wang, I'm asking if you know how the | 13:59:49 | | 20 like, prepped me.<br>14:03:34 | | 21 \$8 million figure was arrived at. | | 13:59:55 | 21 | Q. Was yesterday the first day you saw the DIP<br>14:03:36 | | 22 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.) | 13:59:55 | | 22 loan agreement?<br>14:03:40 | | 23 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter) | 14:00:17 | 23 | A. I didn't recall. I may have seen that<br>14:03:43 | | | 24 I was not involved in how the \$8 million was arrived; 14:00:22 | | | 24 before, but I couldn't recall.<br>14:03:46 | | 25 so I do not have any personal knowledge. | | 14:00:28 | 25 | MR. HARBACH: Scott, this question is not<br>14:03:54 | | | | Page 143 | | Page 145 |

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| 1 remotely intended to invade the privilege, but I hope 14:03:56 | 1<br>THE WITNESS: Ah, okay. Again, not my<br>14:07:39 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 you will understand why I am asking it.<br>14:04:01 | 2 native language.<br>14:07:41 | | 3 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:04:03 | 3<br>So Mr. Qiang Guo advised me, and he is<br>14:07:42 | | 4<br>Q. Ms. Wang, when you met with the attorneys<br>14:04:04 | 4 taking care of that also. Because this attorney<br>14:07:46 | | 5 yesterday, was there an interpreter available to help 14:04:06 | 5 based in UK; so like, where Mr. Qiang Guo is at. He<br>14:07:52 | | 6 you?<br>14:04:09 | 6 will take care. For Golden Spring, we didn't receive 14:07:56 | | 7<br>A. No.<br>14:04: 13 | 7 invoice yet. Probably will come, but I didn't see<br>14:08:00 | | Q. When you read the DIP loan agreement<br>8<br>14:04:18 | 8 thatyet.<br>14:08:03 | | 9 yesterday, did you understand it?<br>14:04:21 | 9 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:08:04 | | A. I know it is a loan. It is 8 million, and<br>10<br>14:04:31 | 10<br>Q. So when Mr. Qiang Guo told you that he would 14:08:04 | | 11 interest is at 5 percent and subject to the court to<br>14:04:34 | 11 take care of it, you understood that to mean that<br>14:08:07 | | 12 approve by the end.<br>14:04:38 | 12 Golden Spring (New York) would pay for her services;<br>14:08: 10 | | Q. Okay. Do you know anything else about the<br>14:04:42<br>13 | 13 is that right?<br>14:08:14 | | 14 conditions that are attached to the loan?<br>14:04:46 | 14<br>A. That is my understanding. For<br>14:08: 15 | | A. I learned from the reading it is kind of<br>14:04:51<br>15 | 15 Golden Spring, like, we didn't receive invoice. If<br>14:08:21 | | 16 like a 50 percent pay the lender -- no. The debtors<br>14:04:55 | 16 we receive that invoice, we will take care of that.<br>14:08:23 | | 17 professional. Another 50 percent is going to pay<br>14:05:00 | 17<br>Q. Okay. Are there any other current officers<br>14:08:26 | | 18 U.S. Trustee and the other attorney related.<br>14:05:05 | 18 and directors of Golden Spring (New York) Limited,<br>14:08:50 | | Q. Areyoufamiliarwiththetermeventsof<br>19<br>14:05:10 | 19 besides you and Qiang Guo?<br>14:08:57 | | 20 default?<br>14:05: 14 | 20<br>A. No.<br>14:09:03 | | A. You mean in this DIP loan agreement?<br>14:05:15<br>21 | Only me and him.<br>14:09:03<br>21 | | Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>14:05:21<br>22 | 22<br>Q. Okay. Am I right that there was a time,<br>14:09:05 | | A. I didn't pay attention about that.<br>14:05:22<br>23 | 23 a few months in 2020, when you were replaced as<br>14:09: 14 | | Q. Do you know what any of the events of<br>24<br>14:05:25 | 24 president by someone named Daniel Podhaskie,<br>14:09:23 | | 25 default that are in this DIP loan agreement are?<br>14:05:29 | 25 P-o-d-h-a-s-k-i-e? Is that right?<br>14:09:27 | | Page 146 | Page 148 | | | | | I<br>A. Can I have, like, interpreter help me on<br>14:05:32 | A. Correct.<br>14:09:37<br>I | | 2 this? Because it is about this DIP loan details.<br>14:05:40 | Q. It looks like Mr. Podhaskie was in those<br>2<br>14:09:38 | | 3<br>Q. Ofcourse. Ofcourse.<br>14:05:44 | 3 roles for a little less than two months.<br>14:09:49 | | | | | 4<br>MR. HARBACH: I'll repeat it for<br>14:05:46<br>5 Ms. Johnston.<br>14:05:49 | 4<br>Does that sound about right to you?<br>14:09:53<br>5<br>A. Yes.<br>14:09:55 | | | 6<br>Q. Okay. And why was it that he replaced you<br>14:09: 58 | | 6 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:05:51 | | | Q. Doyouknowwhatanyoftheeventsof<br>7<br>14:05:51 | 7 for those couple of months?<br>14:10:02 | | 8 default in this DIP loan agreement are?<br>14:05:53 | 8<br>A. Because I -- I was -- I had personal issue<br>14:10:04 | | 9<br>THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)<br>14:05:53 | 9 by then, which I couldn't perform as my job as duty.<br>14: 10: 13 | | THEWITNESS:Idon'trecall.<br>14:06:10<br>10 | Q. I see.<br>14:10:20<br>10 | | II BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:06:10 | And when that personal issue was resolved,<br>14: 10:21<br>11 | | Q. Youdon'trecalloryoudon'tknow?<br>14:06:10<br>12 | 12 youreturned--<br>14:10:25 | | A. I don't recall.<br>14:06:15<br>13 | A. That's right.<br>14:10:28<br>13 | | 14<br>Q. Do you know who Arethusa Forsyth is?<br>14:06:17 | 14<br>Q. -- is that right?<br>14: 10:29 | | 15 A-r-e-t-h-u-s-a, last name F, like Frank,<br>14:06:50 | A. Yes. That's right.<br>14:10:30<br>15 | | 16 o-r-s-y-t-h.<br>14:06:58 | 16<br>Q. Okay. Did you have a briefing with<br>14: 10:31 | | 17<br>Do you know who that person is?<br>14:07:00 | 17 Mr.Podhaskiewhenyoucamebackonthejob?<br>14:10:50 | | A. This is attorney retained by Mr. Qiang Guo<br>14:07:04<br>18 | 18<br>A. I don't recall.<br>14:10:59 | | 19 work on this DIP loan.<br>14:07:09 | 19<br>Q. Okay. Do you recall, in any conversations<br>14: 11 :02 | | 20<br>Q. Did you have any -- withdrawn.<br>14:07:10 | 20 with Mr. Podhaskie, whether he was in contact with<br>14:11:08 | | Do you know how Attorney Forsyth is being<br>14:07: 16<br>21 | 21 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>14:11:14 | | 22 paid?<br>14:07:28 | 22<br>A. No.<br>14:11:19 | | A. I'm sorry.<br>14:07:29<br>23 | I don't recall. We just handed over, like,<br>23<br>14: 11:22 | | 24<br>Interpreter, can I have some support?<br>14:07:30<br>THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)<br>14:07:30<br>25 | 24 the daily operation work. I mean, I don't recall<br>14: 11 :31<br>25 anything more than that.<br>14: 11:35 |

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| | Q. To your knowledge, is Mr. Podhaskie<br>14:11:36 | 1<br>A. Less than two years ago.<br>14: 14:53 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 currently, as of today, working for Golden Spring<br>14:11:45 | 2<br>Q. Okay.<br>14:15:05 | | | 3 (New York)?<br>14:11:48 | A. Less than -- closer to two years.<br>3<br>14:15:11 | | 4 | A. No.<br>14:11:48 | 4<br>Q. Approximately two years ago?<br>14:15:14 | | 5 | Q. Who is the current general counsel of<br>14: 11:50 | 5<br>A. Yes.<br>14:15:17 | | | 6 Golden Spring (New York)?<br>14: 11 :56 | 6<br>About two years ago. A little more or less. 14:15:18 | | 7 | MR. ROSEN: I'm going to object to that<br>14:12:00 | Q. Okay. And -- and were you involved in the<br>7<br>14:15:22 | | | 8 question, and I have been advised for matters of<br>14:12:02 | 8 decision to hire this person?<br>14: 15:28 | | | 9 personal security that general counsel does not wish<br>14: 12:09 | 9<br>A. Yes.<br>14:15:30 | | | 10 to disclose general counsel's identity.<br>14:12:12 | 10<br>I make all the decision about the<br>14:15:35 | | II | MR.HARBACH: Okay. Ithinklcanwork<br>14:12:17 | 11 recruitment as the president of the company.<br>14:15:38 | | | 12 around it, Scott. Just don't hesitate to interrupt<br>14:12: 19 | Q. How many other people did you interview for<br>12<br>14:15:41 | | | 13 if -- if you want to, but I'm going to try and work<br>14:12:23 | 13 that position?<br>14:15:45 | | | 14 around that.<br>14:12:26 | 14<br>A. Wow. I mean, when I hire people, I'm pretty 14: 15:47 | | 15 | Okay?<br>14: 12:27 | 15 much, if! can say, picky; so I did interview, like,<br>14:15:56 | | 16 | MR. ROSEN: Okay.<br>14:12:27 | 16 several candidates.<br>14: 16:02 | | | 17 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14: 12:27 | 17<br>Q. Okay. Do you know where the person who is<br>14:16:04 | | 18 | Q. Ms. Wang, your lawyer doesn't want you to<br>14:12:28 | 18 currently the general counsel worked immediately<br>14:16:09 | | | 19 say the name, but do you know who the current general 14: 12:31 | 19 before coming to Golden Spring?<br>14:16:13 | | | 20 counsel of Golden Spring (New York) is?<br>14:12:35 | A. Can you please repeat again?<br>20<br>14:16:20 | | 21 | A. Yes, I know.<br>14:12:37 | 21<br>Q. Yes.<br>14:16:23 | | 22 | Q. Okay. And do you communicate with that<br>14:12:39 | 22<br>A. Sorry.<br>14:16:24 | | | 23 person?<br>14: 12:42 | Q. The -- the person who is general counsel of 14: 16:25<br>23 | | 24 | A. Yes, we do.<br>14: 12:46 | 24 Golden Spring, who you said you were involved in<br>14: 16:28 | | 25 | Q. How regularly? How often do you communicate 14:12:49 | 25 hiring, where did that person work immediately before 14:16:31 | | | Page 150 | Page 152 | | | | | | | 1 with that person?<br>14:12:52 | 1 Golden Spring, if you know?<br>14:16:36 | | 2 | A. We communicated -- it is not a daily basis,<br>14:12:53 | A. Idoknow,butldon'tfeelcomfortableto<br>2<br>14:16:41 | | | 3 but several times per week.<br>14:13:03 | 3 give any details about my current employee --<br>14:16:44 | | 4 | Q. Okay. I find it interesting that you have<br>14:13:06 | Q. Okay.<br>14:16:47<br>4 | | | 5 a clear recollection of how often you speak with the<br>14: 13: 13 | 5<br>A. -- and including previous employer.<br>14:16:48 | | | 6 general counsel, but no recollection with any clarity 14: 13: 18 | Q. How about this?<br>6<br>14:16:51 | | | 7 of how often you speak with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>14:13:24 | 7<br>A. That safety reason again.<br>14:16:52 | | 8 | Can you explain that?<br>14:13:28 | 8<br>Q. Give me -- give me the -- give me the first<br>14:16:54 | | 9 | A. Yes, sir.<br>14:13:31 | 9 letter of the company where the general counsel<br>14:16:56 | | 10 | Because I'm the president of the<br>14:13:33 | 10 worked before coming to Golden Spring.<br>14:16:59 | | | II Golden Spring, and that is my job to communicate with 14:13:35 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. That's -- that is<br>11<br>14:17:02 | | | 12 my employee, including my general counsel and the<br>14:13:38 | 12 the -- it is the same issue.<br>14: 17:04 | | | 13 rest of our employees; so that is my job. I am being 14: 13:42 | MR. HARBACH: Because of the first letter?<br>13<br>14: 17:10 | | | 14 paid to do that; so Mr. Ho Wan Kwok-- I mean, we<br>14:13:46 | 14<br>MR. ROSEN: We are not playing, you know,<br>14:17:12 | | | 15 don't communicate on a regular basis or any -- kind<br>14: 13 :53 | 15 twenty questions here. David, c'mon.<br>14:17: 14 | | | 16 of like as you said, a regular basis. We just<br>14:13:56 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14: 17:24 | | | 17 communicate as we need. I mean, he is not employee;<br>14: 13:59 | 17<br>Q. Was the general counsel's prior employer --<br>14: 17:24 | | | 18 right?<br>14:14:04 | 18 was the identity of the general counsel's prior<br>14:17:31 | | 19 | And then I don't report to him; so why<br>14: 14:04 | 19 employer a factor in your decision to hire that<br>14:17:39 | | | 20 should I, you know, keep that rhythm and then to talk 14: 14:07 | 20 person?<br>14:17:44 | | | 21 with someone who is not in my job work?<br>14:14:10 | A. Well, I don't understand your question, sir.<br>21<br>14:17:44 | | 22 | Q. Just one moment, please. Hang on one<br>14:14:14 | Can I ask for the interpreter to help me?<br>22<br>14:17:46 | | | 23 second.<br>14: 14:24 | 23 Sorry.<br>14: 17:49 | | 24 | When was the current general counsel of<br>14: 14:49 | 24<br>Q. No problem.<br>14:17:51 | | | 25 Golden Spring hired?<br>14: 14:52<br>Page 151 | 25<br>MR. HARBACH: Here we go, Ms. Johnston.<br>14:17:52<br>Page 153 |

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| 1 BY MR. HARBACH: | 1 Golden Spring (New York), apart from the general | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 14:17:55 | 14:21:00 | | Q. Is the -- was the identity of the general<br>14:17:55<br>2 | 2 counsel?<br>14:21:03 | | 3 counsel's provider employer a factor in your decision 14: 17:58 | 3<br>A. Which time period you are asking, sir?<br>14:21:04 | | 4 to hire that person?<br>14:18:05 | Q. Currently.<br>14:21: 10<br>4 | | 5 | A. No. | | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.) | 14:21: 12 | | 14: 18:24 | 5 | | THE WITNESS: When I interview and hire | 6 | | 14: 18:31 | Q. How many employees does Golden Spring | | 6 | 14:21:14 | | 7 people, like the previous employer before me, that | 7 (New York) Limited currently have? | | 14: 18:33 | 14:21:26 | | 8 does matter also. And, obviously, you know, I want<br>14:18:40 | 8<br>MR. ROSEN: I believe that information has<br>14:21:34 | | 9 to hire the high quality oftalent; right? | 9 been previously provided. And I believe, David, you | | 14:18:44 | 14:21:36 | | Where they are from, that do matter. And,<br>14: 18:48<br>10 | 10 are aware of the sensitivity to the employee issue.<br>14:21:41 | | II plus, I still care about, like, the loyalty with the | 11 I -- I don't think we have an objection to answering | | 14:18:51 | 14:21:45 | | 12 previous job. You already--! don't like, you know, 14:18:54 | 12 how many employees there are, but I would ask you<br>14:21:50 | | 13 employee or the candidate jumping too often from job | 13 not -- not to get into any personal or identifying | | 14: 18: 59 | 14:21:54 | | 14 to job. But besides that, you know, I do care about, 14: 19:04 | 14 information with respect to that.<br>14:21:57 | | 15 like, the interview --the feeling of the interview;<br>14: 19:09 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. I -- !--thank you,<br>14:22:00<br>15 | | 16 right? | 16 Scott. | | 14:19:11 | 14:22:02 | | 17 | I do understand the position of | | The understanding and the communication and | 17 | | 14:19:12 | 14:22:04 | | 18 the people skill, of course the capability of | 18 Golden Spring (New York) as had been represented to | | 14: 19:14 | 14:22:06 | | 19 professional, that all matters; so to answer your | 19 us by counsel and repeated by counsel for the debtor | | 14:19:17 | 14:22:09 | | 20 question, the previous employer does matter, but it | 20 in -- in a previous proceeding; so I will respect | | 14:19:20 | 14:22: 14 | | 21 is not only the -- only one reason for me to make | 21 your request for purposes of this deposition while | | 14: 19:23 | 14:22:22 | | 22 a decision to send out the offer. | 22 noting that we disagree strongly with the -- the | | 14: 19:27 | 14:22:25 | | 23 BY MR. HARBACH: | 23 basis of it. | | 14:19:31 | 14:22:29 | | 24<br>Q. Did you contact this general counsel's<br>14:19:31 | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:22:33 | | 25 previous employer during the hiring process?<br>14:19:34 | 25<br>Q. So for the moment, Ms. Wang, my question is<br>14:22:33 | | Page 154 | Page 156 | | | | | I<br>A. I remember my HR department by then, they<br>14:19:42 | I just the number of employees.<br>14:22:36 | | 2 conducted the background check and reference check.<br>14: 19:47 | 2<br>How many employees currently work at<br>14:22:38 | | 3 I didn't do that by myself. I have a company do | 3 Golden Spring (New York) Limited? | | 14: 19:51 | 14:22:43 | | 4 that. | 4 | | 14:19:54 | A. Oh, currently I believe it is about fourteen 14:22:45 | | Q. So you did--you, personally, did not speak 14:19:54 | 5 ofthem, including myself. | | 5 | 14:22:53 | | 6 to anyone at this person's prior employer; correct?<br>14: 19:57 | 6<br>Q. Including you?<br>14:22:55 | | A. I mean, I manage the entire, like, employee. | 7 | | 14:20:03 | A. Yes. | | 7 | 14:22:58 | | 8 I mean, as the president of the company, my<br>14:20:06 | Q. Does that also include Mr. Qiang Guo? Or<br>8<br>14:22:58 | | 9 understanding is you are the -- the HR department | 9 no? | | 14:20:09 | 14:23 :04 | | 10 will do that for me; right?<br>14:20:12 | 10<br>A. No.<br>14:23:05 | | II | Q. Okay. So you and the general counsel -- | | Q. You know, Ms. Wang, it is a simple question. | 14:23:05 | | 14:20:14 | 11 | | 12 I'm not suggesting you should have. I'm just asking | 12 does that include that person? | | 14:20:17 | 14:23:10 | | 13 whether you did.<br>14:20:20 | 13<br>A. Correct.<br>14:23:13 | | 14 | 14 | | A. No, I didn't. | Q. Okay. So you, the general counsel, and | | 14:20:21 | 14:23:14 | | Q. Okay.<br>14:20:23<br>15 | 15 twelve other people?<br>14:23:21 | | A. My HR department did that, uh-huh. | 16 | | 14:20:24 | A. Yes. | | 16 | 14:23:23 | | Q. Okay. Did you personally conduct any of the 14:20:27<br>17 | Q. Do all of those people work at the family<br>17<br>14:23:23 | | 18 reference calls for this person? | 18 office? | | 14:20:30 | 14:23:32 | | A. No. | 19 | | 14:20:32 | MR. ROSEN: I object to this. The -- there | | 19 | 14:23:36 | | 20<br>I didn't do that. But my -- my -- in<br>14:20:35 | 20 are issues of physical security that I have been<br>14:23:38 | | | | | 21 person, my -- personally. | 21 alerted to. And if-- if -- if you would like, | | 14:20:40 | 14:23:41 | | 22<br>Q. But your understanding is that somebody in<br>14:20:43 | 22 David, I do have a statement from the Golden Spring<br>14:23:47 | | 23 your HR department did? | 23 security team that I could read into the record. | | 14:20:44 | 14:23:50 | | 24<br>A. Correct.<br>14:20:46<br>Q. Are there any other inhouse lawyers for<br>14:20:47<br>25 | 24 If -- if -- if you think it is appropriate. But --<br>14:23:54<br>25<br>MR. HARBACH: I -- I appreciate that, Scott. 14:23:59 |

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| 1 I mean, I -- as I said before, we -- we understand<br>14:24:02 | A. He advised me he will take care of that.<br>1<br>14:27:15 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 the position that you are taking. And if your<br>14:24:05 | Q. Did he tell you where the money was coming<br>14:27: 18<br>2 | | 3 position is whether all employees work in the same<br>14:24:08 | 3 from?<br>14:27:20 | | 4 location presents a security risk such that you are<br>14:24:13 | A. So far not yet. But he said he will take<br>14:27:21<br>4 | | 5 going to direct the witness not to answer, that is<br>14:24:16 | 5 care of that, as he always does.<br>14:27:26 | | 6 okay. I'll just note for the record that we -- we<br>14:24: 19 | 6<br>Q. Did you ask him where the money was coming<br>14:27:27 | | 7 disagree and reserve the right to take it up with the 14:24:22 | 7 from?<br>14:27:30 | | 8 Judge, like we do just about all of the objections<br>14:24:26 | A. I didn't.<br>8<br>14:27:31 | | 9 that have been made today. But -- but -- but that is 14:24:30 | 9<br>Q. Okay.<br>14:27:37 | | 10 sufficient for present purposes, if that is okay with 14:24:34 | A. He said he will take care of that.<br>10<br>14:27:39 | | 11 you.<br>14:24:36 | Q. No.<br>14:27:40<br>11 | | MR. ROSEN: Yes.<br>14:24:37<br>12 | I -- I -- I understand that he said he will<br>14:27:41<br>12 | | That -- that is fine.<br>14:24:38<br>13 | 13 take care of it. I'm just asking if you know where<br>14:27:43 | | 14<br>MR. HARBACH: Okay.<br>14:24:40 | 14 the money was coming from, and-- and I think I have<br>14:27:46 | | 15 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:24:41 | 15 got the answer.<br>14:27:49 | | 16<br>Q. Does Golden Spring -- as far as -- as you<br>14:24:52 | 16<br>A. We have trust between each other for so many 14:27:51 | | 17 are concerned, Ms. Wang, does Golden Spring<br>14:24:54 | 17 years. When -- as the owner of the company, he said<br>14:27:54 | | 18 (New York) Limited expect to be repaid for the DIP<br>14:24:59 | 18 he will take care of that, and I will just let him do 14:27:57 | | 19 loan?<br>14:25:05 | 19 his part. I am doing my part; right? So<br>14:28:01 | | 20<br>A. It is a loan, yes. Golden Spring is going<br>14:25:06 | 20<br>Q. Listen, that -- that is fine. But you have<br>14:28:05 | | 21 to expect to be repaid.<br>14:25:12 | 21 been tendered as the person at Golden Spring<br>14:28:07 | | 22<br>Q. We were speaking earlier about bank accounts 14:25:14 | 22 (New York) Limited with knowledge about all these<br>14:28:11 | | 23 and whatnot, and I'm -- and I'm not intending to<br>14:25:30 | 23 topics that we have noticed. One of the topics is<br>14:28: 14 | | 24 reopen that can of worms, but I am going to ask this<br>14:25:33 | 24 the source of funds used by Golden Spring to finance<br>14:28:17 | | 25 precise question.<br>14:25:38 | 25 the DIP loan agreement. And so I -- I just asked you 14:28:21 | | Page 158 | Page 160 | | | | | | | | What is the source of the moneys that will<br>I<br>14:25:38 | I if you know, and so we are clear, your answer is you<br>14:28:26 | | 2 fund the DIP loan if it is approved?<br>14:25 :41 | 2 don't know, but Qiang Guo said he would take care of 14:28:31 | | 3<br>A. And it will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo<br>14:25:43 | 3 it, and that's enough for you.<br>14:28:35 | | 4 directly.<br>14:25:53 | 4<br>MR. ROSEN: That's -- objection. That<br>14:28:38 | | Q. What is the source of the moneys that will<br>5<br>14:25:53 | 5 mischaracterizes the testimony.<br>14:28:40 | | 6 fund the DIP loan ifit is approved?<br>14:25:58 | MR. HARBACH: Oh, Scott, how does that<br>14:28:42<br>6 | | A. It will be arranged by Mr. Qiang Guo<br>7<br>14:26:06 | 7 mischaracterize the testimony?<br>14:28:44 | | 8 directly.<br>14:26:08 | 8<br>MR. ROSEN: Because she also testified that<br>14:28:45 | | Q. Do you know where the money will come from?<br>14:26:08<br>9 | 9 it could be from his wealth.<br>14:28:47 | | 10<br>A. I was not advised it yet, but Mr. Qiang Guo<br>14:26: 13 | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:28:47 | | 11 said that he will take care of that, as he always do. 14:26:19 | Q. Okay. So did he -- did he say that? My<br>14:28:50<br>11 | | Q. So you are president and treasurer of<br>14:26:22<br>12 | 12 question is did he say that to you? Did he say that<br>14:28:57 | | 13 Golden Spring. You are here testifying today about<br>14:26:25 | 13 I am -- I'm going to take care of it from my wealth?<br>14:28:59 | | 14 a DIP loan, as I have been reminded countless times.<br>14:26:29 | 14 Is that what he said?<br>14:29:02 | | 15 And your testimony is that you do not know where the<br>14:26:35 | A. Correct.<br>14:29:09<br>15 | | 16 money to fund the DIP loan is coming from.<br>14:26:39 | 16<br>Q. He said that to you?<br>14:29:09 | | Have I got that right?<br>14:26:45<br>17 | 17<br>A. Yes.<br>14:29:12 | | 18<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. That<br>14:26:47 | 18<br>As always, we chat. He briefed me. He<br>14:29: 13 | | 19 mischaracterizes the witness' testimony.<br>14:26:48 | 19 said, I will take care of that. You don't worry.<br>14:29: 17 | | 20<br>You can answer the question.<br>14:26:55 | 20 And I have place to rent. My understanding, after so 14:29:20 | | THE WITNESS: It will be arranged by<br>14:26:56<br>21 | 21 many years, that will come from his wealth.<br>14:29:23 | | 22 Mr. Qiang Guo directly from his or -- his wealth, in<br>14:26:58 | 22<br>Q. Okay. So he did not say to you, I will take 14:29:26 | | 23 my understanding, as always we do.<br>14:27:06 | 23 care of it from my money. He just said, I will take<br>14:29:29 | | 24 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:27:10<br>Q. Did he tell you that?<br>14:27:11<br>25 | 24 care ofit, and based on your experience with him<br>14:29:34<br>25 over the years, you understood that to mean from his<br>14:29:39 |

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| 1 wealth.<br>14:29:42 | Q. Okay. And do those bylaws say anything<br>14:33:52 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Have I got that right?<br>14:29:43<br>2 | 2 about decisions of the company and how they are to be 14:33:56 | | A. So you remind me, like, he said I have it.<br>14:29:45<br>3 | 3 made?<br>14:34:04 | | 4 I will take care of that. That's his, as we said,<br>14:29:51 | A. Yes.<br>14:34:04<br>4 | | 5 quote to quote. He said that to me. In my<br>14:29:55 | Q. Okay. And do those bylaws include rules<br>14:34:05<br>5 | | 6 understanding, that will come from his -- his wealth. 14:29:58 | 6 about how the -- the president and treasurer are to<br>14:34: 10 | | 7<br>Q. Okay. And when was this conversation?<br>14:30:00 | 7 be involved?<br>14:34:13 | | 8<br>A. That was yesterday also.<br>14:30:03 | A. Yes.<br>14:34:14<br>8 | | 9<br>Q. Was yesterday the -- the first time you<br>14:30:06 | 9<br>Q. Okay. And as far as you are aware,<br>14:34: 16 | | 10 learned what the source of the funds used to finance<br>14:30:17 | 10 Golden Spring has operated within the constraints of 14:34:22 | | 11 the DIP loan agreement were coming from?<br>14:30:24 | | | | 11 those bylaws properly as long as you have been there? 14:34:27 | | 12<br>A. There was a -- in order to prep the<br>14:30:30 | A. What do you mean, properly, sir?<br>12<br>14:34:31 | | 13 deposition today, like, he went through this DIP loan 14:30:37 | Q. Well, have they-- while you have been at<br>14:34:34<br>13 | | 14 arrangement with me a little bit.<br>14:30:41 | 14 Golden Spring (New York), have the rules been<br>14:34:38 | | Q. Okay.<br>14:30:43<br>15 | 15 followed as laid out in the bylaws?<br>14:34:41 | | A. Yeah. He mentioned to me, I have it.<br>14:30:44<br>16 | A. I mean, we are family office. I mean, we're 14:34:44<br>16 | | 17 I will take care of that --<br>14:30:46 | 17 private company and family office. I work for<br>14:34:48 | | 18<br>Q. All right.<br>14:30:48 | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo, himself, for my entire career; so<br>14:34:53 | | 19<br>14:30:49<br>A. -- you know, as a conversation. | 19 like, he authorized me to make a decision.<br>14:35:02 | | 20<br>Q. Fair enough.<br>14:30:50 | 20 I communicated with him. I mean, we don't have<br>14:35:06 | | My only question for you is when he told you 14: 30: 51<br>21 | 21 issue. If there is missing any paperwork, it doesn't 14:35:08 | | 22 yesterday, I have it. I'll take care of it, is that<br>14:30: 54 | 22 mean that anybody purposely do anything wrong; so we<br>14:35: 11 | | 23 the first time you learned what the source of the DIP 14:30:58 | 23 are a family office.<br>14:35: 14 | | 24 loan funds would be?<br>14:31:03 | 24<br>Q. I'm not suggesting anything about<br>14:35:16 | | A. That is the time I heard from him because<br>14:31:05<br>25 | 25 wrongdoing, certainly not on purpose. I asked you if 14:35:19 | | Page 162 | Page 164 | | 1 I need to prep the deposition today. But I know he<br>14:31: 11 | 1 the company had bylaws. You said yes.<br>14:35:25 | | 2 has it for so many years; so it is not, like, the<br>14:31: 15 | 2<br>My next question is has the company abided<br>14:35:27 | | 3 first time -- right? -- I got -- oh, you have money.<br>14:31 :20 | 3 by the bylaws as long as you have been there, as far<br>14:35:31 | | 4 It is not like that way. I know he had it.<br>14:31:23 | 4 as you know?<br>14:35:35 | | | | | | | | 5<br>Q. Oh, I got it. I got you. And, believe me,<br>14:31:25 | 5<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. That's -- that is --<br>14:35:37 | | 6 I am not trying to suggest that yesterday was the<br>14:31 :28 | 6 that is very broad.<br>14:35:37 | | 7 first day you learned he had money. Not at all.<br>14:31:31 | What particular aspect of the bylaws are you 14:35:41<br>7 | | 8 I get that.<br>14:31:35 | 8 looking for?<br>14:35:44 | | 9<br>What I'm -- what I'm trying to focus on is<br>14:31:36 | 9<br>MR. HARBACH: Well, I tried to remain<br>14:35:45 | | 10 was yesterday the first day that you learned that the 14:31:38 | 10 focused on decision making and the powers of the<br>14:35:47 | | II money that would fund the DIP loan was going to come<br>14:31:44 | 11 president and treasurer; so I guess I'll ask it that<br>14:35:50 | | 12 from Qiang Guo?<br>14:31:47 | 12 way.<br>14:35:55 | | A. That was the time I heard from him, yes.<br>14:31: 52<br>13 | 13 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:35:55 | | 14<br>Q. Okay. What is your understanding as to how<br>14:31:55 | 14<br>Q. Have -- have the bylaws about the authority<br>14:35:55 | | 15 the DIP loan is going to be repaid? If you know.<br>14:32:04 | 15 and power of the president and the treasurer been<br>14:35:58 | | A. I don't know.<br>14:32:11<br>16 | 16 respected since you have been at Golden Spring?<br>14:36:04 | | 17<br>Q. Okay. Give me ten seconds, folks, please.<br>14:32:13 | 17<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection. The bylaws are not<br>14:36:07 | | 18 Excuse me.<br>14:32:31 | 18 in the record. It-- it is -- the question is -- is<br>14:36:09 | | Okay. Thanks, everybody.<br>14:33:24<br>19 | 19 hopelessly vague.<br>14:36: 13 | | 20<br>Subject change.<br>14:33:29 | 20<br>But you can answer.<br>14:36: 15 | | Ms. Wang, does -- does Golden Spring<br>14:33:37<br>21 | THE WITNESS: Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we<br>14:36:18<br>21 | | 22 (New York) Limited have any kind of company bylaws | 14:33:45 22 manage Golden Spring (New York) Limited based on our<br>14:36:2\$ | | 23 that you know of?<br>14:33:49 | 23 aligned -- aligned-- our aligned agreement and<br>14:36:26 | | 24<br>A. Yes.<br>14:33:50 | 24 properauthorization.<br>14:36:31 | | 25<br>We do have bylaws.<br>14:33:50<br>Page 163 | 25 ///<br>Page 165 |

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| | 1 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:36:32 | Q. Okay. So this is what I was asking you<br>14:41:46 | |----|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | Q. Okay. Let me ask a different question.<br>14:36:35 | 2 about a minute ago. In paragraph three, it says the<br>14:41:52 | | 3 | When you were appointed as president,<br>14:36:40 | 3 date of filing of the corporation's original<br>14:41:56 | | | 4 secretary, treasurer of Golden Spring (New York) in<br>14:36:47 | 4 certificate of incorporation in Delaware was<br>14:42:00 | | | 5 the spring of 2018 -- that's -- so that is the time<br>14:36:52 | 5 03/10/2015.<br>14:42:04 | | | 6 I'm focusing on -- were you aware that the company's<br>14:36:57 | 6<br>Do you see that?<br>14:42:07 | | | 7 charter had been inoperative and void since March I<br>14:37:01 | A. Yes.<br>14:42:08<br>7 | | | 8 of2017?<br>14:37:07 | Q. So that March 10th of 2015 was the --<br>14:42: 13<br>8 | | 9 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. Assumes facts not on 14:37: 10 | 9 apparently the date of incorporation of Golden Spring 14:42: 16 | | | 10 the record.<br>14:37:13 | 10 (New York) Limited.<br>14:42:20 | | 11 | THE WITNESS: I don't recall.<br>14:37:15 | And then ifyou look down at paragraph five, 14:42:21<br>11 | | | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:37:16 | 12 it says:<br>14:42:25 | | 13 | Q. Do you recall ever executing a revival --<br>14:37: 18 | 13<br>"The corporation was duly organized and<br>14:42:26 | | | 14 a certificate of revival on behalf of Golden Spring<br>14:37:23 | 14<br>carried on the business authorized by its<br>14:42:29 | | | 15 (New York) Limited to correct that problem?<br>14:37:27 | charter until the first day of March AD 2017, 14:42:32<br>15 | | 16 | A. I don't recall. If you have documents, you<br>14:37:33 | 16<br>at which time its charter became inoperative 14:42:41 | | | 14:37:36<br>17 can remind me, sir. | and void for nonpayment of taxes and/or<br>17<br>14:42:44 | | 18 | Q. Give me just one second.<br>14:37:38 | 18<br>failure to file a complete annual report and 14:42:49 | | 19 | Okay. I think we're going to put up another 14:39: 17 | the certificate of revival is filed by<br>19<br>14:42:54 | | | 20 exhibit here real quick that might help you remember. 14:39:21 | authority of the duly elected directors of<br>20<br>14:42:56 | | 21 | MR. HARBACH: Yeah. Itis 808. Yeah. It<br>14:39:30 | 21<br>the corporation in accordance with the laws<br>14:43:00 | | | 22 is 808.<br>14:39:40 | of the state of Delaware."<br>22<br>14:43:04 | | 23 | (Deposition Exhibit Number 5<br>14:39:43 | 23<br>Were you able to follow along with me while<br>14:43:07 | | 24 | was marked for identification.)<br>14:39:46 | 24 I read that?<br>14:43:09 | | 25 | MR. HARBACH: Thanks for your patience.<br>14:39:46 | 25<br>A. Yes.<br>14:43:10 | | | Page 166 | Page 168 | | | | | | | | | | | I I think we have got the document here.<br>14:39:49 | Q. Okay. So now does this refresh your<br>14:43: 11<br>I | | 2 | THE WITNESS: Sorry.<br>14:40:02 | 2 recollection about whether when you were hired at<br>14:43:19 | | 3 | Sir, can we have a break after this<br>14:40:05 | 3 Golden Spring in the spring of 2018 the charter had<br>14:43:23 | | | 4 document?<br>14:40:07 | 4 been made inoperative and void?<br>14:43:32 | | | 5 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:40:08 | 5<br>A. So what is your question, sir? Are you<br>14:43 :43 | | 6 | Q. Sure.<br>14:40:08 | 6 expecting me to reply?<br>14:43 :46 | | 7 | A. Thank you.<br>14:40:09 | Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>14:43:47<br>7 | | 8 | Q. Okay. So what is fixing to come through is<br>14:40:18 | Before I dug up this document, when I asked<br>14:43:48<br>8 | | | 9 Exhibit 5. There we go.<br>14:40:21 | 9 you that same question, you said I don't remember or<br>14:43:52 | | 10 | All right. I had myself muted. I'm sorry.<br>14:41:02 | 10 I don't recall. And you said to me, if you have any<br>14:43:56 | | 11 | Could you please go to the last page of<br>14:41:04 | 11 documents, maybe that could help me; so I'm providing 14:44:00 | | | 12 Exhibit 5.<br>14:41:07 | 12 you a document to try and help you.<br>14:44:04 | | 13 | A. (Witness complies.)<br>14:41:08 | And the question is whether seeing this<br>14:44:09<br>13 | | 14 | Yes. I'm here.<br>14:41:09 | 14 document refreshes your recollection about whether at 14:44: 11 | | 15 | Q. Okay. You see how this one is captioned<br>14:41:10 | 15 the time you assumed your duties at Golden Spring<br>14:44:15 | | | 16 state of Delaware, certificate for revival of<br>14:41:14 | 16 (New York) in the spring of2018 the company, in<br>14:44:21 | | | 17 charter?<br>14:41: 18 | 17 fact, had become inoperative -- correction.<br>14:44:27 | | 18 | A. Yes.<br>14:41:18 | The charter of the company had become<br>18<br>14:44:30 | | 19 | Q. And there is a signature at the bottom.<br>14:41: 19 | 19 inoperative and void.<br>14:44:33 | | 20 | Is that yours?<br>14:41 :23 | 20<br>A. So you are asking me why? Or what is your<br>14:44:41 | | 21 | A. Yes.<br>14:41:24 | 21 question, sir? Why or --<br>14:44:45 | | 22 | Q. And the very bottom right hand of the page<br>14:41 :27 | 22<br>Q. I'm asking whether this is, in fact, true<br>14:44:48 | | | 23 it says -- there is a stamp there that says filed<br>14:41:30 | 23 that at the time you were hired in the spring of<br>14:44:54 | | 25 | 24 ten -- there is a time of!0:23: 18, I think it says.<br>14:41:37<br>A. Yes.<br>14:41:46 | 24 2018 -- okay? -- whether at that time the charter of 14:44:58<br>25 Golden Spring (New York) Limited was inoperative and<br>14:45 :06 |

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| | 1 void.<br>14:45:12 | You recall him being a lawyer at<br>14:48:22 | |----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | MR. ROSEN: Objection. The -- the document<br>14:45: 12 | 2 Williams & Connolly; is that right?<br>14:48:25 | | | 3 speaks for itself.<br>14:45: 14 | A. He is attorney of William Connolly, yes.<br>3<br>14:48:28 | | 4 | MR. HARBACH: It-- it does, indeed, Scott.<br>14:45:16 | Q. Okay. And did you say-- make sure I heard<br>4<br>14:48:31 | | | 5 And that is quite fair.<br>14:45:19 | 5 you correctly.<br>14:48:34 | | 6 | Unfortunately, the history of this<br>14:45:21 | Did you say that -- that he and<br>14:48:34<br>6 | | | 7 litigation is that sometimes documents are challenged 14:45:23 | 7 Williams & Connolly represented Qiang Guo?<br>14:48:38 | | | 8 as being inauthentic and forgeries when they are<br>14:45 :26 | 8<br>A. In these .pdf -- in these exhibit,<br>14:48:41 | | | 9 plainly not; so I'm afraid I have to ask the<br>14:45 :31 | 9 William Connolly, Jerry Shulman -- Jerry represents<br>14:48:51 | | | 10 question.<br>14:45:34 | 10 Golden Spring Limited also.<br>14:48:56 | | II | MR. ROSEN: You can answer the question.<br>14:45:34 | Q. Okay. Did-- did Mr. Shulman represent<br>14:48:58<br>11 | | 12 | THE WITNESS: Sir, I don't -- I don't know<br>14:45:36 | 12 Qiang Guo?<br>14:49:01 | | | 13 what happened before I was officially hired, but if<br>14:45:39 | 13<br>A. I --<br>14:49:02 | | | 14 you read back the entire Golden Spring, including,<br>14:45:45 | 14<br>Q. Because I believe that is what you said<br>14:49:06 | | | 15 I believe, the corporation, was set up by attorney<br>14:45:49 | 15 a few minutes ago. l'mjusttryingtomake sure<br>14:49:08 | | | 16 from William Connolly. The attorney's name is<br>14:45:52 | 16 I heard you correctly.<br>14:49:11 | | | 17 addressed on page three, Jerry L. Shulman; so<br>14:45:58 | 17<br>A. I believe so.<br>14:49:13 | | | | Q. Okay. To your knowledge, did Mr. Shulman of 14:49:14 | | | 18 I know -- I got to know -- Jerry was Mr. Qiang Guo's<br>14:46:03<br>19 attorney. And William Connolly was, like, a-- what<br>14:46:07 | 18<br>19 Williams & Connolly represent Ho Wan Kwok?<br>14:49:19 | | | | | | | 20 is technically, like, the Golden Spring charters,<br>14:46:11<br>21 like, the documentation, you know, all the paperwork; 14:46: 17 | 20<br>A. I don't know that.<br>14:49:22<br>Q. Okay. The -- the document that is on the<br>21<br>14:49:25 | | | 22 so the answer to you was, like, when I was hired --<br>14:46:20 | 22 screen there says that the reason the charter became<br>14:49:31 | | | 23 of course, I don't know what happened before me, but, 14:46:25 | 23 inoperative and void was for nonpayment of taxes<br>14:49:37 | | | 24 obviously, Jerry Shulman, the attorney by then was --<br>14:46:28 | 24 and/or failure to file a complete annual report.<br>14:49:42 | | | 25 maintained the -- the record here or fix the record<br>14:46:32 | Do you know which of those reasons, or both<br>25<br>14:49:50 | | | Page 170 | Page 172 | | | | | | | | | | | I somehow, which I am not aware of that before me.<br>14:46:36 | I reasons, were why the charter of Golden Spring became 14:49:55 | | | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>14:46:41 | 2 inoperative and void?<br>14:50:03 | | 3 | Q. Okay. Just a moment.<br>14:46:42 | 3<br>A. As I said, before me, what happened I don't<br>14:50:05 | | 4 | Okay. We thought we were having a fire<br>14:46: 50 | 4 know. But since I was appointed, Golden Spring never 14:50:14 | | | 5 drill in our building, but it is only a test. Sorry<br>14:46: 53 | 5 has this problem.<br>14:50:20 | | | 6 for the noise.<br>14:46:56 | 6<br>Q. Okay. Well, it apparently had the problem<br>14:50:21 | | 7 | I understood what you said, Ms. Wang.<br>14:47:00 | 7 for six months after you were appointed because the<br>14:50:24 | | | 8 You--you signed this document, and it was filed in<br>14:47:03 | 8 certificate of revival wasn't filed until October; so 14:50:28 | | | 9 Delaware in October of 2018.<br>14:47: 12 | 9 I'll ask the same question. And maybe you don't<br>14:50:35 | | 10 | Do you remember signing it?<br>14:47: 18 | 10 know. It is okay if you don't know, but all I can do 14:50:37 | | 11 | A I don't recall. Too many years ago.<br>14:47:22 | 11 is ask.<br>14:50:40 | | 12 | Q. I gather, from what you said a moment ago,<br>14:47:24 | 12<br>Do you know what the reason was why the<br>14:50:41 | | | 13 that ifl were to ask you how you learned that the<br>14:47:29 | 13 charter became inoperative and void?<br>14:50:45 | | | 14 charter of Golden Spring had become inoperative and<br>14:47:38 | 14<br>A. I don't know the reason, but I am not able<br>14:50:53 | | | 15 void, you would say it was -- it was from the<br>14:47:41 | 15 to fix everything that happened before me from day<br>14:50:56 | | | 16 attorney you mentioned; is that right?<br>14:47:45 | 16 one I was appointed; right?<br>14:51:00 | | 17 | A I read this from the exhibit you present to<br>14:47:50 | 17<br>So the six months, that is a fair time. But 14:51:02 | | | 18 me. And the attorney's name, Jerry Shulman, is on<br>14:47:56 | 18 I need to spend on time and then start to catch up<br>14: 51: 04 | | | 19 that. Obviously, my understanding, he was working on 14:48:02 | 19 and fix what happened before me.<br>14:51:08 | | | 20 this before.<br>14:48:05 | 20<br>Q. Yeah. Andthankyou.<br>14:51:09 | | 21 | Q. Okay. Did -- do you recall having<br>14:48:06 | 21<br>You requested a short break.<br>14:51:19 | | | 22 conversations with Mr. Shulman?<br>14:48:08 | 22<br>MR. HARBACH: And why don't we take that<br>14:51:21 | | 23 | A I don't recall.<br>14:48: 11 | 23 now.<br>14:51:23 | | 24 | Q. AndyourecallMr. Shulman--thatis<br>14:48:12<br>25 S-h-u-1-m, like Mary, a-n.<br>14:48:18 | 24<br>Just so everybody knows -- I hesitate to say 14:51:24<br>25 it, but I'm close to finishing up. Why don't we take 14:51:28 |

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| | 1 a break until 3 :00 o'clock.<br>14:51:33 | I | A No.<br>15:06:30 | |----|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are going off the<br>14:51:36 | 2 | Q Where did it come from?<br>15:06:31 | | | 3 record.<br>14:51:37 | 3 | A It come from his own successful investment.<br>15:06:33 | | 4 | The time is 2:51 p.m.<br>14:51:37 | 4 | Q Okay I'm asking about the money that he<br>15:06:42 | | 5 | (Short recess taken.)<br>15:02:54 | 5 | originally invested to become successful, didn't that 15 :06:46 | | 6 | THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the<br>15:02:54 | | 6 comefromhisfather?<br>15:06:52 | | | 7 record.<br>15:02:57 | 7 | A No.<br>15:06:54 | | 8 | The time is 3:02.<br>15:02:57 | 8 | Q Okay Where did it come from 7<br>15:06:55 | | 9 | MR. HARBACH: Apologies, everyone. There<br>15:03:28 | 9 | A What I -- what I learned is that it come<br>15:06:58 | | | 10 was a loud announcement on our loudspeakers here.<br>15:03:30 | | IO from his family -- his extended family.<br>15:07:05 | | | 11 That is why I remained muted.<br>15:03:34 | II | Q Who told you that?<br>15:07:08 | | | 12 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:03:34 | 12 | A I learned from him.<br>15:07:12 | | 13 | Q. One cleanup question, Ms. Wang, before we<br>15:03:38 | 13 | Q That is what he told you?<br>15:07:14 | | | 14 proceed to the next topic.<br>15:03:42 | 14 | A (Nods head)<br>15:07:17 | | 15 | Could you describe one successful investment 15:03:44 | 15 | Q Okay Next subject, do you remember earlier 15.07.21 | | | 16 that Golden Spring (New York) has made since you have 15:03:49 16 in our time today I explained to you that there was | | 15:07:28 | | | 17 been president?<br>15:03:53 | | 17 a difference between the -- the DIP loan, which we<br>15.07.31 | | 18 | A. Since I was appointed as a president; so the 15:03:55 | | 18 just talked about for some time, and then also loans 15 :07:35 | | | 19 first job, of course, is build up the entire team and 15 :04: 10 | | | | | | | 19 to fund litigation? Do you remember that?<br>15:0739 | | | 20 then start back to the operation. And then we did<br>15:04:13 | 20 | A Yes.<br>15:07:43 | | | 21 have some projects in discussion and then develop.<br>15:04:22 | 21 | Q Okay And so now I want to talk about that 15:07:45 | | | 22 But because of a Pacific Alliance branded lawsuit,<br>15:04:26 | | 22 second category, which is the loans that<br>15:07:50 | | | 23 I mean, our barik balance was very seriously hurt; so<br>15:04:35 | | 23 Golden Spring (New York) has made to Ho Wan Kwok for<br>15:07:55 | | | 24 we were not able to complete the full investment<br>15:04:39 | | 24 litigation.<br>15:08:02 | | | 25 project. But we did have some -- very prospective<br>15:04:43<br>Page 174 | 25 | Okay?<br>15:08:04<br>Page 176 | | | | | | | | I one before.<br>15:04:49 | I | A. Yes.<br>15:08:06 | | 2 | Q. Okay. Leaving aside the prospective one, is 15 :04: 50 | 2 | Q. Okay. So I -- for -- for right now I'm not<br>15:08:06 | | | 15:04:55 | | | | | 3 there any investment project that Golden Spring has | | 3 talking about the DIP loan.<br>15:08:09 | | | 4 done that has succeeded since you have been<br>15:05:02 | 4 | Do you understand?<br>15:08:11 | | | 5 president?<br>15:05:05 | 5 | A. Yes.<br>15:08:12 | | 6 | A. As I just explained, because our banking<br>15:05:06 | 6 | Q. Okay. According to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok,<br>15:08:15 | | | 7 relationship was hurted by Pacific Alliance; so we<br>15:05: 10 | | 7 Golden Spring (New York) has loaned him approximately 15:08:2 S | | | 8 were not able to complete a full successful<br>15:05: 16 | | 8 \$21 million to pay for litigation costs.<br>15:08:29 | | | 9 project -- investment project.<br>15:05:20 | 9 | My question to you is are you aware of that? 15:08:35 | | 10 | Q. Okay. So -- so the answer is no?<br>15:05:22 | 10 | A. Yes.<br>15:08:39 | | 11 | A. Correct.<br>15:05:25 | 11 | Q. Okay. Who requested those loans?<br>15:08:43 | | 12 | Q. Okay. Did you know Qiang Guo before you<br>15:05:26 | 12 | A. Who requested those loans? You mean the --<br>15:08:47 | | | 13 became an officer and director of Golden Spring<br>15:05:37 | | 13 I mean, can you explain more about the question?<br>15:08:59 | | | 14 (New York) Limited?<br>15:05:42 | 14 | Q. Who requested that Golden Spring (New York)<br>15:09:05 | | 15 | A. Yes.<br>15:05:42 | | 15 Limited would make those loans to cover<br>15:09: 10 | | 16 | Q. Okay. Can you describe for me one<br>15:05:42 | | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's litigation costs?<br>15:09: 16 | | | 17 successful business enterprise that Qiang Guo has<br>15:05:48 | 17 | A. I believe they borrowed -- requested from<br>15:09:21 | | | 18 launched since you have known him.<br>15:05:54 | | 18 Mr. Qiang Guo directly, the owner of Golden Spring.<br>15:09:28 | | 19 | A. I don't want to put his business, any<br>15:05:57 | 19 | Q. By the borrower, you mean Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>15:09:38 | | | 20 specific name, at any risk for obvious reason. But<br>15:06:06 | 20 | A. That's right.<br>15:09:38 | | | 21 what I can tell you is that he has been very<br>15:06: 10 | 21 | Q. Are you cap- -- withdrawn.<br>15:09:44 | | | 22 successful in the investment world for -- in -- in<br>15:06: 13 | 22 | So father asked son to make the loans.<br>15:09:45 | | | 23 all of -- in different countries.<br>15:06:19 | 23 | Is that what you understand?<br>15:09:52 | | 24 | Q. And isn't it true that the -- the money that 15:06:21<br>25 he got to invest came from his father?<br>15:06:25 | 24<br>25 | A. Yes.<br>15:09:54<br>Q. Okay. Who approved those loans for<br>15:09:54 |

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| | 1 GoldenSpring(NewYork)?<br>15:10:03 | 1 convinced, if that is what you were talking about.<br>15: 13:05 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | A. They were approved by both .vlr. Qiang Guo and 15:10:06 | 2<br>Q. Well, I'm not talking about anything in<br>15:13:11 | | | 3 myself, as the president of Golden Spring.<br>15: 10: 13 | 3 particular. I'm just asking. And I'm trying to get<br>15: 13:15 | | 4 | Q. How did you become aware of the loans that<br>15:10:18 | 4 an understanding of what real authority you have as<br>15: 13: 18 | | | 5 were requested?<br>15:10:20 | 5 president and treasurer of Golden Spring (New York)<br>15:13:21 | | 6 | A. I heard from Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>15:10:22 | 6 Limited. Because what you have told me thus far is<br>15:13:24 | | 7 | Q. Did you have any conversations with<br>15: 10:28 | 7 that the DIP loan was approved by Mr. Qiang Guo<br>15: 13:28 | | | 8 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok about those loans?<br>15: 10:30 | 8 without your input and that it was enough for you<br>15: 13: 33 | | 9 | A. No.<br>15:10:34 | 9 that he told you that he would take care of it. And<br>15: 13:38 | | 10 | I don't recall.<br>15: 10:37 | 10 when it comes to the litigation funding, you have<br>15: 13:42 | | II | | | | | Q. Okay. You never asked him what the money<br>15:10:38 | 11 told me that father asked son and that you have never 15: 13:45 | | | 12 was for?<br>15:10:43 | 12 spoken to father about it, not even to ask him what<br>15: 13:49 | | 13 | A. No.<br>15:10:44 | 13 the money was for.<br>15: 13:51 | | 14 | That was a conversation between<br>15:10:47 | 14<br>So what I'm trying to understand is what<br>15: 13: 53 | | | 15 Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>15:10:48 | 15 exactly your role is. I mean, I know what your<br>15:13:56 | | 16 | Q. Okay. Were any of the litigation loans that 15:10:51 | 16 titles are, but I'm trying to understand what your<br>15:14:00 | | | 17 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok asked for refused?<br>15:11:04 | 17 role is; so that is why I'm asking these questions.<br>15: 14:03 | | 18 | A. Yes.<br>15:11:12 | And so my question is is there an occasion<br>18<br>15: 14:08 | | 19 | Q. Bywhom?<br>15:11:14 | 19 you can point to where you disagreed with<br>15:14:13 | | 20 | A. Refused by Mr. Qiang Guo.<br>15:11:17 | 20 Mr. Qiang Guo over a decision that involved more than 15:14:18 | | 21 | Q. Did you agree, in your capacity as<br>15:11:20 | 21 a million dollars?<br>15:14:23 | | | 22 president, that it should have been refused?<br>15: 11 :25 | 22<br>A. Yes.<br>15:14:26 | | 23 | A. I am aligned with Mr. Qiang Guo's rejection. 15: 11 :29 | 23<br>Q. Okay. Howrecently?<br>15:14:27 | | 24 | Q. Okay. Are you ever not aligned with his<br>15: 11:35 | 24<br>A. What do you mean, how recently? I already<br>15: 14:30 | | | 25 decisions about matters involving millions of<br>15:11:38 | 25 explained, like, regarding when I was appointed<br>15:14:35 | | | Page 178 | Page 180 | | | | | | | 1 dollars?<br>15:11:42 | 1 and--<br>15:14:38 | | 2 | A. Yes.<br>15:11:43 | 2<br>Q. Okay.<br>15:14:39 | | 3 | Q. Okay. Can you describe occasion on which<br>15:11:47 | 3<br>A. -- disagreements about investment projects.<br>15:14:39 | | | 4 your opinion prevailed?<br>15: 11: 51 | 4 I am talking about real estate or investment project<br>15: 14:43 | | 5 | A. For example, I make all the decision on the<br>15: 11: 56 | 5 in New York.<br>15:14:47 | | | | | | | 6 daily operation, including outfit--<br>15:12:00 | 6<br>Q. Okay. And that was --<br>15:14:47 | | 7 | Q. I'm not asking about -- I'm not asking about 15: 12:04 | A. I didn't convince him. I didn't convince<br>15:14:49<br>7 | | | 8 daily operations. I'm asking about a decision<br>15:12:07 | 8 him. They are all more than a million projects;<br>15:14:51 | | | 15:12: II<br>9 involving more than a million dollars. | 9 right?<br>15:14:54 | | 10 | Has there ever been --<br>15:12:15 | And I-- and I just testified this<br>10<br>15:14:54 | | 11 | A. I don't understand what you are asking<br>15:12:17 | 11 afternoon -- this morning, and he made decision about 15: 14:56 | | | 12 about. More than a million dollars is very general.<br>15: 12:20 | 12 the vehicles, which I don't align with that. But, of 15:15:00 | | | 13 I mean, I don't understand what you are asking, sir.<br>15: 12:23 | 13 course, we didn't get agreement, and he purchased the 15: 15 :06 | | 14 | Q. Okay. You just told me a moment ago that<br>15:12:25 | 14 cars. Because I don't agree with that; so that is<br>15:15:09 | | | 15 there have been occasions when you have disagreed<br>15: 12:28 | 15 the reason why I don't want to get too much of<br>15:15:12 | | | 16 with Mr. QiangGuo;right?<br>15:12:31 | 16 details, even as the president. We are a family<br>15:15:14 | | 17 | A. That's right.<br>15: 12:33 | 17 office;right?<br>15:15:18 | | 18 | Q. Okay. My question to you is has there ever<br>15:12:34 | Ifwedon'tgetalignedand--thatheis<br>18<br>15:15:19 | | | 19 been a disagreement between you and him about<br>15:12:38 | 19 the owner of the company about the director; right?<br>15:15:21 | | | 20 a decision that involved more than a million dollars? 15: 12:43 | 20<br>So he made the decision about the vehicles,<br>15:15:25 | | 21 | A. More than a million dollars?<br>15:12:48 | 21 and then I made the decision about the investment<br>15:15:30 | | 22 | Q. Yes.<br>15:12:52 | 22 opportunity. And then we did have disagreement. We<br>15:15:33 | | 23 | A. I mean, we did have some disagreements in<br>15: 12:53 | 23 take care of -- we take care of the result by the<br>15:15:35 | | | 24 the very beginning about some potential investment<br>15:12:58 | 24 end.<br>15:15:37 | | | 25 project; so we didn't get agreement, and he was<br>15:13:01<br>Page 179 | 25<br>Q. Okay. All right. And so there -- I think<br>15:15:37<br>Page 181 |

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| | 1 I understand your answer, but there are two things<br>15:15:39 | | Q. Well, then tell me -- tell me another<br>15:18:50 | |----|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 that I just want to clarify and make sure of.<br>15:15:43 | | 2 example then. Tell me another example of a decision<br>15: 18:54 | | 3 | Number one, examples of disagreement.<br>15: 15:45 | | 3 involving more than a million dollars with which you<br>15:18:57 | | | 4 I asked you about timing. You just explained that<br>15:15:48 | | 4 disagree and your opinion prevailed, besides the real 15: 19 :00 | | | 5 one of those examples was when you were appointed in<br>15:15:52 | | 5 estate project that you have already mentioned three<br>15:19:05 | | | 6 2018the--youmentionedarealestateproject.<br>15:15:55 | | 6 times.<br>15:19:08 | | | 7 Understood.<br>15:15:59 | 7 | Any other example?<br>15:19:09 | | 8 | You also mentioned the vehicles just now<br>15:16:00 | 8 | A. I answered already.<br>15:19:12 | | | 9 that we were talking about earlier today.<br>15:16:03 | 9 | Q. Are any of the \$21 million in litigation<br>15:19:14 | | 10 | Any other examples that you can think of?<br>15:16:07 | | 10 loans to Golden Spring (New York) expected to be<br>15: 19:29 | | 11 | A. You are asking me about more than a million, 15:16:12 | | 11 repaid?<br>15:19:32 | | | 12 which -- I mean, the advisement project, they are<br>15:16:19 | 12 | A. Yes.<br>15:19:34 | | | 13 more than a million.<br>15:16:23 | 13 | Q. Are any of the loans in writing?<br>15:19:34 | | 14 | Q. I understand. And I got that.<br>15:16:24 | 14 | A. Yes.<br>15:19:41 | | 15 | I'm asking whether there are any other<br>15:16:26 | 15 | Q. Have you seen the -- the documents for any<br>15:19:41 | | | 16 examples, besides those two.<br>15:16:29 | | 16 of the loans?<br>15:19:49 | | 17 | A. Weareafamilyofficeinhere. Ifyouare<br>15:16:32 | 17 | A. Yes.<br>15:19:53 | | | 18 asking about his father's legal thing, I mean that<br>15:16:39 | 18 | Q. Where are they?<br>15:19:53 | | | 19 his father-- as per Mr. Qiang Guo advise me, his<br>15:16:44 | 19 | A. They are in my office.<br>15:19:55 | | | 20 father might want to bring some litigation, which he<br>15: 16:47 | 20 | Q. On East 64th Street or wherever?<br>15:20:02 | | | 21 was asking my advice, which I give him my advice and<br>15:16:51 | 21 | A. What do you mean, wherever?<br>15:20:09 | | | 22 then he took it to support his father or not. That<br>15: 16: 56 | 22 | Q. I'm sorry. I'm trying to avoid using the<br>15:20:11 | | | 23 happened also.<br>15: 16:59 | | 23 exact address.<br>15:20:15 | | 24 | Q. With respect -- with respect to the -- the<br>15:17:00 | 24 | Are they at the family office in<br>15:20:15 | | | 25 vehicles, I believe you said that even though you<br>15: 17:05 | | 25 New York City?<br>15:20: 18 | | | | | | | | Page 182 | | Page 184 | | | 1 disagreed, Mr. Qiang Guo decided to buy the vehicles<br>15:17:09 | 1 | A. I believe in the morning of -- this morning<br>15:20:18 | | | 2 anyway; right?<br>15: 17:14 | | 2 I already testified my address, which you have it,<br>15:20:21 | | 3 | A. That's right.<br>15:17:16 | | 3 sir. It is on the 64th Street office, Golden Spring<br>15:20:25 | | 4 | Q. Okay. Andisn'tthattruethat,ingeneral, 15:17:19 | | 4 (New York)'s office.<br>15:20:29 | | | 5 if you disagree, as you said, Mr. Qiang Guo is going<br>15: 17:29 | 5 | Q. Okay.<br>15:20:29 | | | 6 to be the one who decides, according to you?<br>15:17:34 | 6 | A. You don't need to avoid mentioning the<br>15:20:30 | | 7 | A. No.<br>15:17:38 | | 7 address, sir. You have it.<br>15:20:34 | | 8 | It is -- it happened on his side also. If<br>15:17:41 | 8 | Q. Well, forgive me for being extra careful in<br>15:20:36 | | | 9 I don't disagree, he will go with me.<br>15:17:46 | | 9 light of your security concerns.<br>15:20:40 | | 10 | Q. Okay. Can you think of an example where you 15: 17:49 | 10 | A. Thank you.<br>15:20:43 | | | 11 have disagreed and your point of view prevailed and<br>15:17:57 | 11 | Q. Is that -- is that the address where the<br>15:20:44 | | | 12 the decision at issue involved more than a million<br>15: 18: 10 | | 12 loan documents are located?<br>15:20:45 | | | 13 dollars?<br>15:18:14 | 13 | A. Correct.<br>15:20:47 | | 14 | A. Sir, Ijustrepliedtoyourquestion. Like, 15:18:17 | 14 | Q. How many such loan documents are there?<br>15:20:47 | | | 15 the real estate property investment project.<br>15:18:21 | 15 | A. Several of them.<br>15:20:51 | | 16 | Q. Besides -- besides that one.<br>15:18:25 | 16 | Q. More than ten?<br>15:20:52 | | 17 | A. !mean, as I explained, that is our business 15:18:29 | 17 | A. Several of them.<br>15:20:58 | | | 18 plan; right?<br>15:18:32 | 18 | Q. Do you know whether it is more than ten or<br>15:21:00 | | 19 | We do real estate investment.<br>15:18:33 | | 19 not?<br>15:21:02 | | 20 | Ialreadytestifiedthatasafamilyoffice; 15:18:35 | 20 | A. I replied, several of them.<br>15:21:04 | | | 21 right?<br>15:18:38 | 21 | Q. Did you sign them?<br>15:21:07 | | 22 | Q. I'm -- I'm going to interpret your answer as 15: 18:39 | 22 | A. Yes.<br>15:21:11 | | | 23 that is the only example you can think of.<br>15:18:42 | 23 | Q. Who signed them for the borrower?<br>15:21:12 | | 24 | A. I don't agree. I don't agree. This is not<br>15:18:44 | 24 | A. The borrower signed it.<br>15:21:19 | | | 25 my answer. I give you my answer very clear.<br>15: 18:47<br>Page 183 | 25 | Q. Who is the borrower?<br>15:21:23<br>Page 185 |

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| 1 | A. Mr. Ho Wan Kwok.<br>15:21:25 | 1 specifically do you mean by documented?<br>15:24:25 | |----|---------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 | Q. Okay. Were you present when he signed them? 15:21:27 | 2<br>MR. HARBACH: Sure.<br>15:24:28 | | 3 | A. I don't recall.<br>15:21:30 | 3<br>What I mean is that the witness has<br>15:24:30 | | 4 | Q. Okay. How many of the \$21 million in loan<br>15:21:33 | 4 indicated earlier in her testimony that some of the<br>15:24:34 | | | 5 are undocumented?<br>15:21 :42 | 5 loans were in writing and that there were loan<br>15:24:38 | | 6 | A. I don't recall. I couldn't give you the<br>15:21:44 | 6 agreements; so that is how I interpreted her answer.<br>15:24:44 | | | 7 precise number.<br>15:21:50 | 7 And I -- and I gather that some ofthem were and some 15:24:47 | | 8 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Well, we'll -- we'll<br>15:21:51 | 8 of them weren't. And so when I say documented loans, 15:24:50 | | | 9 request -- Scott, we'll request that Golden Spring<br>15:21:54 | 9 I mean the loans for which there is a written loan<br>15:24:54 | | | 10 (New York) Limited immediately produce to us all of<br>15 :21:59 | 10 agreement that she signed and that the borrower<br>15:24:58 | | | 11 the documents that the witness has just described,<br>15:22:02 | 11 signed.<br>15:25:03 | | | 12 namely, the loan agreements substantiating any<br>15:22:09 | 12<br>Does that help?<br>15:25:05 | | | 13 portion of the \$21 million in litigation loans that<br>15:22:13 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.<br>15:25:06<br>13 | | | 14 the debtor has taken out from Golden Spring<br>15 :22: 16 | 14<br>Thank you.<br>15:25:08 | | | 15 (New York).<br>15:22:20 | 15<br>MR. HARBACH: Okay.<br>15:25:09 | | 16 | MR. ROSEN: I understand the request, and we 15:22:21 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:25:10 | | | 17 will take it under advisement.<br>15:22:23 | 17<br>Q. So Ms. Wang, does that change -- that<br>15:25:10 | | 18 | MR. HARBACH: Okay.<br>15:22:25 | 18 doesn't change any of your answers, I assume.<br>15:25:13 | | | 19 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:22:29 | Did you understand what! meant?<br>19<br>15:25:15 | | 20 | Q. Ms. Wang, are you familiar with the terms of 15:22:29 | A. I replied my question. That is the best of 15:25: 17<br>20 | | | 21 any of those loans, meaning the litigation loans?<br>15:22:32 | 21 my knowledge for this second.<br>15:25:22 | | 22 | A. They are loans. They have interest. They<br>15:22:36 | 22<br>Q. Okay. So just to make -- just to -- to<br>15 :25 :24 | | | 23 should be paid back.<br>15:22:43 | 23 recap and make sure I understand.<br>15:25:27 | | 24 | Q. What interest rate?<br>15:22:44 | 24<br>There is approximately \$21 million in<br>15:25:31 | | 25 | A. I couldn't remember clearly. I couldn't<br>15:22:46<br>Page 186 | 25 litigation loans that have been made by Golden Spring 15:25:35<br>Page 188 | | | | | | | | | | | I remember clearly. Like, 2, 3 percent. I couldn't<br>15:22:53 | I (New York) to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok; correct?<br>15:25:39 | | | 2 remember.<br>15:22:56 | 2<br>A. Correct.<br>15:25:41 | | 3 | Q. Who negotiated the interest rate on those<br>15:22:56 | 3<br>Q. And some ofthose loans are -- are<br>15:25:47 | | | 4 loans for Golden Spring (New York)?<br>15:22:59 | 4 documented, by which I mean there is a written loan<br>15:25:50 | | 5 | A. Me and Mr. Qiang Guo, we designed it.<br>15:23:01 | 5 agreement; correct?<br>15:25:55 | | 6 | Q. Who negotiated with the -- the borrower,<br>15:23:06 | 6<br>A. Correct.<br>15:25:57 | | | 7 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, for the interest rate on these<br>15:23:13 | 7<br>Besides that, we do have notes, like, on our 15:25:59 | | | 8 loans?<br>15:23:16 | 8 financial book that recorded as a loan also.<br>15:26:06 | | 9 | A. I don't recall.<br>15:23:18 | Q. Okay. And then some of those loans do not<br>9<br>15:26:08 | | 10 | Q. Did you communicate with Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>15:23:21 | 10 have a -- a loan agreement in writing; correct?<br>15:26:11 | | | 11 about the interest rate on these loans?<br>15:23:26 | A. But in our financial records it is<br>15:26:16<br>11 | | 12 | A. I don't recall.<br>15:23:29 | 12 documented as a loan; correct.<br>15:26:20 | | 13 | Q. Is the interest rate the same on all of the<br>15:23:32 | Q. I understand. I understand.<br>15:26:22<br>13 | | | 14 loans?<br>15:23:38 | 14<br>But my point is for those, there is not<br>15:26:24 | | 15 | A. As far as I know, I remember, yes.<br>15:23:39 | 15 a loan agreement that you signed and that<br>15:26:28 | | 16 | Q. Is the total figure of approximately<br>15:23:45 | 16 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok signed that contains an interest rate 15:26:31 | | | 17 \$21 million in litigation loans about correct, to<br>15:23:50 | I 7 and formal terms; right?<br>15:26:36 | | | 18 yourrecollection?<br>15:23:56 | 18<br>A. Correct.<br>15:26:40 | | 19 | A. Approximately number -- yes. Correct.<br>15:23:57 | 19<br>There were some other loans between<br>15:26:41 | | 20 | Q. Okay. And approximately how much of that<br>15:24:02 | 20 Mr. Qiang Guo and Mr. Ho Wan Kwok also.<br>15:26:45 | | | 21 21 million is in documented loans?<br>15:24:05 | Q. Okay.<br>15:26:47<br>21 | | 22 | A. I don't have it on the top of my head.<br>15:24:08 | 22<br>A. So financial notes was the loan agreement<br>15:26:48 | | 23 | MR. ROSEN: Can I ask, David, can you please 15:24:18 | 23 and then with our loan --<br>15:26:52 | | | 24 clarify.<br>15:24:21 | 24<br>Q. Okay.<br>15:26:55 | | 25 | When you say documented loans, what<br>15:24:22<br>Page 187 | 25<br>A. -- agreement.<br>15:26:56<br>Page 189 |

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| Q. And so for the ones -- not the ones that<br>15:26:57 | MR. HARBACH: Sure.<br>15:29:50 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 were oral, but the ones that are in writing, you said 15:26:59 | 2 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:29:51 | | 3 those documents are currently at the East 64th Street 15:27:04 | Q. Was Golden Spring (New York) Limited<br>15:29:52<br>3 | | 4 office; correct?<br>15:27:12 | 4 involved in assisting Mr. Kwok in filling out his<br>15:29:54 | | A. Correct.<br>15:27:13<br>5 | 5 bankruptcy schedules or his statement of financial<br>15:29:58 | | MR. HARBACH: Okay. So Scott, it is those<br>15:27:15<br>6 | 6 affairs?<br>15:30:01 | | 7 documents that we are requesting.<br>15:27:19 | A. No.<br>15:30:03<br>7 | | MR. ROSEN: I understand.<br>15:27:20<br>8 | Q. What about Mr. K wok's monthly operating<br>15:30:04<br>8 | | Thank you.<br>15:27:22<br>9 | 9 reports? Do you know what those are?<br>15:30:14 | | 10 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:27:22 | 10<br>A. Yes.<br>15:30:17 | | II<br>Q. Okay. Now, Ms. Wang, with respect to the<br>15:27:23 | Q. Okay. Was anyone at Golden Spring<br>15:30:20<br>11 | | 12 oral loans, who recorded them?<br>15:27:26 | 12 (New York) involved in helping prepare<br>15:30:24 | | A. What do you mean, who recorded them? For<br>15:27:31<br>13 | 13 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's monthly operating reports?<br>15:30:28 | | 14 Golden Spring?<br>15:27:34 | 14<br>A. We were requested to pull out his lifestyle<br>15:30:31 | | 15:27:34<br>Q. Yes, ma'am.<br>15 | 15 expenses. That is, I directed Golden Spring to help. 15:30:40 | | I think you just mentioned a moment ago that 15:27:35<br>16 | 16<br>Q. Okay. Who made the request to you?<br>15:30:47 | | 17 even the loans that were not documented with a loan<br>15 :27:39 | 17<br>A. I couldn't remember. Probably his attorney. 15:30:49 | | 18 agreement were recorded on the books of Golden Spring 15:27:41 | 18 I couldn't remember.<br>15:30:57 | | 19 (New York); right?<br>15:27:46 | Q. Okay. And ifl understand you correctly,<br>19<br>15:30:58 | | 20<br>A. Correct.<br>15:27:47 | 20 you directed one of your employees to assist?<br>15:31:00 | | Q. So I'm asking who recorded them on the<br>15:27:47<br>21 | A. Correct.<br>15:31:06<br>21 | | 22 books?<br>15:27:50 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. And I'll just note for<br>22<br>15:31:07 | | A. Golden Spring's finance.<br>15:27:51<br>23 | 23 the record, Scott, that I won't ask who that person<br>15:31:09 | | 24<br>Q. Okay. Was that at your direction?<br>15:27:55 | 24 is because I understand that you will object on the<br>15:31:17 | | 25<br>A. Correct.<br>15:27:59 | 25 same basis as before. And I'll just note that we<br>15:31:20 | | Page 190 | Page 192 | | | | | | | | Q. How did you learn about the terms of those<br>15:28:00<br>I | I continue to disagree with that objection.<br>15:31:24 | | 2 oral loans?<br>15:28:04 | 2<br>Is that okay?<br>15:31:26 | | A. I got to know from Mr. Qiang Guo also.<br>15:28:07<br>3 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.<br>15:31:27<br>3 | | Q. Were you personally involved in negotiating<br>15 :28: 10<br>4 | 4 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:31:35 | | 5 any or -- or tendering any oral loans to<br>15:28:16 | Q. Do you know what the firm Verdolino & Lowey 15:31:35<br>5 | | 6 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>15:28:22 | 6 is?<br>15:31:42 | | A. I didn't attend the -- the conversation<br>15:28:23<br>7 | 7<br>A. Verdolino Lowey.<br>15:31:43 | | 8 between Mr. Qiang Guo and his father, no. I didn't.<br>15:28:30 | 8<br>Q. Have you ever heard of them?<br>15:31:45 | | Q. HasMr.HoWanKwokeveraskedyoufor<br>9<br>15:28:33 | 9<br>A. No.<br>15:31:48 | | 10 a loan from Golden Spring?<br>15:28:36 | I don't recall.<br>10<br>15:31:53 | | A. I don't recall.<br>15:28:38<br>11 | Q. Okay. Do you know who Craig Jalbert is?<br>15 :31: 53<br>11 | | Q. Does that mean it is possible that he has?<br>15:28:40<br>12 | A. I don't know this name.<br>15:31:59<br>12 | | A. I don't recall.<br>15:28:49<br>13 | Q. Okay.<br>15:31:59<br>13 | | Q. With apologies if I asked you this question<br>14<br>15 :28:57 | 14<br>A. Craig Jalbert.<br>15:32:02 | | 15 before. I honestly don't remember.<br>15:29:00 | Q. This may seem obvious from your earlier<br>15:32:03<br>15 | | 16<br>Have you ever spoken to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>15:29:02 | 16 answer, but please bear with me.<br>15:32:15 | | 17 about any of the litigation loans, whether oral or<br>15:29:06 | 17<br>Leaving aside the person's name, is it true<br>15:32:18 | | 18 written?<br>15:29:11 | 18 that there are personnel at Golden Spring (New York)<br>15:32:26 | | 19<br>A. I don't recall.<br>15:29: 12 | 19 Limited who could assist in compiling and calculating 15:32:31 | | 20<br>Q. Were you personally involved in helping<br>15:29:13 | 20 the lifestyle expenses of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok?<br>15:32:40 | | 21 Mr. Kwok fill out his bankruptcy schedules and his<br>15:29:33 | 21<br>A. Yes.<br>15:32:48 | | 22 statement of financial affairs?<br>15:29:38 | 22<br>Q. Focusing now just for a moment on those<br>15:32:49 | | MR. ROSEN: Objection. The witness is not<br>15:29:41<br>23 | 23 lifestyle expenses.<br>15:33:07 | | 24 here to testify in her personal capacity. I would<br>15:29:44<br>25 ask you to rephrase the question.<br>15:29:48 | 24<br>Okay?<br>15:33:10<br>25<br>A. Yes.<br>15:33:12 |

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| Q. Has -- has Mr. Kwok ever made any requests<br>15:33:12 | 1 safety of his father; so the communication that<br>15:36:17 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2 to you to have Golden Spring (New York) pay for<br>15:33:21 | 2 happens between Ho Wan Kwok and the security to<br>15:36:21 | | 3 expenses related to his lifestyle?<br>15:33:28 | 3 arrange the trip to Manhattan; so that one I don't<br>15:36:22 | | 15:33:31<br>4<br>Excuse me. | 4 need to get involved because it is too small for me.<br>15:36:26 | | A. I don't recall, but it is possible.<br>15:33:33<br>5 | Q. Okay. And then what about other day-to-day<br>15:36:30<br>5 | | 6<br>Q. Okay. What I'm asking about is, you know,<br>15:33:39 | 6 lifestyle needs, like in a recent proceeding the --<br>15:36:34 | | 7 hey, Yvette, I need Golden Spring to pay for me to<br>15:33:46 | 7 the U.S. Trustee asked about what ifhe needed to buy 15:36:42 | | 8 drive to Manhattan or I need Golden Spring to pay for 15:33:52 | 8 a pair of shoes?<br>15:36:47 | | 9 this suit that I need for my trip to court -- things<br>15:33:57 | Just walk us through how that happens.<br>15:36:49<br>9 | | 10 like that.<br>15:34:02 | A. I don't even -- I mean, yes. I review some<br>15:36:52<br>10 | | Does he make requests to you like that?<br>15:34:03<br>11 | 11 of the credit card bill or the bills, but I do have<br>15:36:56 | | | | | A. I don't recall. But there was some requests 15:34:06<br>12 | 12 my finance. I mean, I don't need to do finance job.<br>15 :37:00 | | 13 that he made -- he made to me, like, as before, like, 15:34: 15 | 13 I don't even remember to see very often he buys<br>15:37:04 | | 14 buy some very expensive, like, furniture, I believe.<br>15:34: 19 | 14 shoes. I mean --<br>15:37:09 | | 15 And I -- obviously, it is more than his lifestyle.<br>15:34:22 | Q. Does he buy anything?<br>15<br>15:37:12 | | 16 I report itto Mr. Qiang Guo, and Mr. Qiang Guo<br>15:34:26 | 16<br>A. Yes.<br>15:37:14 | | 17 reject it --<br>15:34:29 | 17<br>He buy -- he buy clothes, yes.<br>15:37:16 | | Q. Okay.<br>15:34:29<br>18 | 18<br>Q. Okay. So how does he buy clothes?<br>15:37:20 | | 19<br>A. -- so I reject it to him also.<br>15:34:30 | 19<br>A. He buy clothes from the shops, I believe.<br>15:37:23 | | 20<br>Q. Right.<br>15:34:32 | 20<br>Q. Okay. Does he physically go to the shops or 15:37:28 | | A. Yeah.<br>15:34:34<br>21 | 21 does he shop online?<br>15:37:32 | | 22<br>Q. I'm asking about, you know, day-to-day<br>15:34:34 | 22<br>MR. HARBACH: Scott, I promise I am just<br>15:37:34 | | 23 stuff, like the -- however -- you know, I don't mind<br>15 :34:37 | 23 trying to understand. I don't -- I won't dwell here<br>15:37:37 | | 24 telling you it has been a real mystery to all ofus<br>15:34:43 | 24 unnecessarily.<br>15:37:39 | | 25 creditors and, I think, to the U.S. Trustee how<br>15:34:48 | 25 Ill | | Page 194 | Page 196 | | I Mr. Kwok pays for things. We really have had<br>15:34:52 | I BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:37:40 | | 2 a difficult time figuring out how that happens. And<br>15:34:55 | Q. Go ahead, Ms. Wang.<br>15:37:41<br>2 | | 3 so I am hoping that you can help me understand<br>15:34:58 | A. I don't get involves in his personal life;<br>15:37:43<br>3 | | | | | 4 a little bit because, according to him, Golden Spring 15 :35:01 | 4 so I cannot say.<br>15:37:47 | | 5 (New York) Limited pays for all this stuff. And<br>15:35:04 | Q. So you don't -- you don't know whether he<br>15:37:48<br>5 | | | | | 6 since you are the president and treasurer of<br>15:35:07 | 6 likes to go in the stores to shop orhe shops online? 15:37:51 | | 7 Golden Spring (New York) Limited, I'm hoping you can<br>15:35:09 | 7<br>A. I do see bills from the shops, which<br>15:37:57 | | 8 help us understand.<br>15:35:14 | 8 !verify. Ihavethefinanceverifythatitwashis<br>15:38:03 | | So I know we talked earlier about your<br>15:35: 15<br>9 | 9 purchase.<br>15:38:08 | | 10 review of credit card bills and -- and so forth, but<br>15 :35: 17 | 10<br>Q. Okay.<br>15:38:08 | | II for something like that, say Mr. -- Mr. Ho Wan Kwok<br>15:35:21 | A. We take care of that; so I don't need to<br>15:38:09<br>11 | | 12 needs to take a trip into Manhattan for some reason<br>15:35:26 | 12 follow him --<br>15:38:13 | | 13 and he needs a car.<br>15:35:30 | Q. All right.<br>15:38: 13<br>13 | | 14<br>Does he come to you? I mean, you say you<br>15:35:33 | 14<br>A. -- where he goes; right?<br>15:38:14 | | 15 run the day-to-day operations of Golden Spring.<br>15:35:36 | So I don't know --<br>15<br>15:38:14 | | Does he come to you or -- or send you<br>15:35:40<br>16 | 16<br>Q. No.<br>15:38:17 | | 17 a message and say, hey, I need a car set up? I mean, 15 :35 :42 | 17<br>I -- I know that. I'm not suggesting you<br>15:38:17 | | 18 how does that work?<br>15:35:46 | 18 follow him.<br>15:38: 19 | | A. Okay. So to reply to this specific<br>15:35:48<br>19 | 19<br>What I'm really just trying to understand is 15:38:20 | | 20 question, as the president of a company, I mean,<br>15:35:50 | 20 how does the transaction happen? Mr. Kwok walks into 15:38:23 | | 21 I already don't deal with this kind of very small<br>15:35:53 | 21 Saks Fifth Avenue and sees a suit he wants to buy.<br>15:38:29 | | 22 request from him; so Golden Spring does have<br>15:35:57 | 22 Let's just pretend that's what happens.<br>15:38:35 | | 23 a security which, as you understood probably, sir,<br>15:36:01 | 23<br>Okay?<br>15:38:37 | | 24 like as per Mr. Qiang, was a regiment because<br>15:36:06 | 24<br>And he is in there, and he says, I like that 15:38:38 | | 25 Mr. Qiang would -- does care the most is the life<br>15:36:13 | 25 suit. And he tries it on, and it looks good, and so<br>15:38:41 |

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| 1 he wants to buy it.<br>15:38:45 | Q. Okay. So I think you do know my question,<br>15:41:55 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | What happens next? How does it get from<br>2<br>15:38:47 | 2 and it is really not hard. But it seems to be really 15:42:02 | | 3 there to being on a bill that you see?<br>15:38:49 | 3 hard to get an answer to it.<br>15:42:06 | | 4<br>A. Oh, that doesn't happen often at all. That<br>15:38:54 | How does Mr. Ho Wan Kwok purchase things,<br>4<br>15:42:10 | | 5 is number one. And that did happen before. Like,<br>15:38:58 | 5 and how does what -- something that he wants to buy<br>15:42:20 | | 6 sometimes I can see from the securities credit<br>15:39:03 | 6 and buys end up on a bill for you to review? And you 15:42:23 | | 7 card-- debit card -- let me correct -- to see that<br>15:39:07 | 7 have given me one example.<br>15:42:27 | | 8 purchase. And then, obviously, my finance will dive<br>15:39:10 | You said there are times when Mr. Qiang Guo<br>8<br>15:42:29 | | 9 in and verify and confirm that he has purchased. But 15:39:14 | 9 will purchase something, and it will then end up on<br>15:42:31 | | 10 that does not happen often at all.<br>15:39:17 | 10 a bill for you to review and verify; right?<br>15:42:35 | | Q. Okay. Well, you did mention that he buys<br>15:39:21<br>11 | A. No.<br>15:42:42<br>11 | | 12 clothes; right?<br>15:39:24 | That is not my answer. You misunderstood<br>12<br>15:42:42 | | 13<br>A. Yes.<br>15:39:27 | 13 me, sir.<br>15:42:45 | | Q. Okay. So you give me an example of how he<br>15:39:28<br>14 | Q. Okay. Please explain.<br>14<br>15:42:46 | | 15 will buy some clothes.<br>15:39:34 | 15<br>A. I will use my translator since you have been 15:42:49 | | If the Saks Fifth Avenue example doesn't<br>16<br>15:39:36 | 16 misunderstanding me along the way, which I don't feel 15:42:53 | | 17 happen very often, tell me what does happen.<br>15:39:40 | 17 you get this. Sorry.<br>15:42:57 | | A. He just doesn't buy clothes very often, not<br>18<br>15:39:43 | Like, can I have my interpreter --<br>18<br>15:43:01 | | 19 only the shoes at Saks Fifth Avenue.<br>15:39:49 | 19<br>Q. Absolutely.<br>15:43:04 | | Q. Does Mr. Kwok have a credit card?<br>20<br>15:39:54 | 20<br>A. -- I mean, to help me.<br>15:43:05 | | 21<br>A. As far as I know, he doesn't have. At least 15:40:07 | 21<br>Q. Absolutely.<br>15:43:06 | | 22 Golden Spring never give him.<br>15:40:12 | MR. HARBACH: So for clarity of the record,<br>22<br>15:43:07 | | 23<br>Q. Does he have a debit card?<br>15:40:14 | 23 Ms. Johnston, the question is I'm trying to<br>15:43 :09 | | 24<br>A. Golden Spring didn't give him.<br>15:40:17 | 24 understand how -- when Mr. Ho Wan Kwok wants to<br>15:43:13 | | 25<br>Q. How do the things that he does purchase end<br>15 :40:20 | 25 purchase something, how does it get -- from the<br>15:43:16 | | Page 198 | Page 200 | | 1 up on a bill that you review? Tell me how that<br>15:40:25 | I decision by Mr. Ho Wan Kwok to purchase something,<br>15:43:20 | | 2 happens<br>15:4030 | 2 how does that end up on a bill that Ms. Wang sees?<br>15:43:25 | | A. For his clothes, I mean, I know, like,<br>15:40:31 | THE INTERPRETER: (Question interpreted.)<br>15:43:29<br>3 | | 4 Mr. Qiang Guo, he has some shops in Manhattan. When 15:40:36 | THE WITNESS: (Through the Interpreter)<br>15:43:29<br>4 | | 5 he ism Manhattan he -- he -- I mean, quite often<br>15:40:43 | 5 Okay. First of all, when I say when I review bills,<br>15:44:38 | | 6 shopping there, and sometimes I saw the bill from the 15:40:49 | 6 those were only in respect to Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's<br>15:44:44 | | 7 shop, which I -- obviously finance will need to<br>15:40:52 | 7 purchase for clothing and shoes. And Mr. Qiang Guo<br>15:44:47 | | 8 verify. If not, Mr. Qiang Guo purchase. But, like,<br>15:40:55 | 8 has certain shops he goes to on a regular basis; so<br>15:44:51 | | 9 his father has purchased. That happened before; so<br>15:40:59 | 9 if his father were to shop there, then the shop would 15 :44: 57 | | 10 like -- that is, like, in my understanding<br>15:41:03 | 10 know to send the bill to New York Golden Spring; so<br>15:45:02 | | 11 :tvrr. Qiang Guo took care of his father.<br>15:4106 | 11 in other words his father's purchase was under<br>15:45: 10 | | Q. So Mr. QiangGuowillbuysomethingforhis 15:41:08<br>12 | 12 Mr. Qiang Guo's profile.<br>15:45:14 | | 13 dad, finance it.<br>15:41: 12 | I don't think maybe you understood what<br>13<br>15:45:16 | | Golden Spring will verify that how? By<br>14<br>15:41 :14 | 14 I meant. That is why I wanted the interpreter to<br>15:45:18 | | 15 calling :tvrr. Qiang Guo and asking him?<br>15:41 :16 | 15 interpret for me.<br>15:45:21 | | A. Sometimes we do that, yes.<br>16<br>15:41 :19 | 16 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:45:23 | | Q. Okay. And when Mr. Qiang Guo is in the UK,<br>17<br>15:41 :21 | Q. Thank you very much.<br>17<br>15:45:23 | | 18 as you have told me is where he lives, how does that 15:41:27 | And I do understand that example.<br>18<br>15:45:26 | | 19 changethings? HowdoesMr.--Mr.HoWanKwokbuy<br>15:41:31 | | | 20 something while his son is in the UK?<br>15:41:36 | 19<br>What about for groceries?<br>15:45:28 | | | 20<br>A. (In English) Groceries, I mean, he lives in 15:45:33 | | A. What do you mean, change things? I mean,<br>15:41 :39<br>21 | 21 his wife's house; so ifthere is any grocery needed<br>15:45:41 | | 22 the shops obviously know Mr. Qiang Guo, whether he is 15:41 :43 | 22 to be purchased, it is for both of them; so what<br>15:45:45 | | 23 in New York or not; so the father came and then<br>15:41:47 | 23 Golden Spring was requested to pull out, like,<br>15:45:51 | | 24 shopping there. I mean, I don't know what is your<br>15 :41 :52 | 24 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, his grocery purchase from his wife,<br>15:45:58 | | 15 4154<br>25 question, sir. | 25 like a general purchase; so I mean, the husband, the<br>15:46:03 |

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| | 1 wife live together. He is living in his wife's<br>15:46:08 | 1 | THE WITNESS: I don't know.<br>15:48:20 | |----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2 house. It doesn't make sense, like, he buy his own<br>15 :46: 11 | 2 | MR. ROSEN: She testified numerous times<br>15:48:25 | | | 3 stuff, separate account.<br>15:46:14 | | 3 that he is not authorized as a user of the card, and<br>15:48:27 | | 4 | Q. I understand that.<br>15:46:15 | | 4 she has answered this question numerous times.<br>15:48:30 | | 5 | I'm just asking how the groceries are paid<br>15:46:16 | 5 | MR. HARBACH: I don't believe she said -- it 15:48:32 | | | 6 for.<br>15:46:19 | | 6 wasn't a question of whether he was an authorized<br>15:48:32 | | 7 | A. It paid by Golden Spring also.<br>15:46:21 | | 7 user. I believe she said that he never used it.<br>15:48:35 | | 8 | Q. Same question as before.<br>15:46:26 | | 8 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:48:38 | | 9 | Do they just go to a grocery store and the<br>15:46:29 | 9 | Q. Does his wife use it?<br>15:48:38 | | | 10 grocery store sends the bill to Golden Spring? Or do 15:46:34 | 10 | A. Usewhat?<br>15:48:40 | | | 11 they buy their groceries online? How does that work? 15:46:38 | 11 | Q. The debit card or the credit card to buy<br>15:48:42 | | 12 | A. Grocery, most of them go with the debit<br>15:46:42 | | 12 groceries?<br>15:48:47 | | | 13 card.<br>15:46:46 | 13 | A. It is possible.<br>15 :48:48 | | 14 | Q. Okay.<br>15:46:46 | 14 | Q. Do you know one way or the other?<br>15:48:51 | | 15 | A. And buy--<br>15:46:47 | | A. I mean, I don't live in their home; right?<br>15:48:59 | | | | 15 | | | 16 | Q. So<br>15:46:50 | | 16 Who is buying groceries? From my end, I can't see,<br>15:49:03 | | 17 | A. And buy online also, yes.<br>15:46:52 | | 17 like, an Amazon purchase or, like, a Whole Foods<br>15:49:09 | | 18 | Q. Okay. And so even if the purchase is<br>15:46:53 | | 18 purchase. Who uses those cards? I need to find out. 15:49:11 | | | 19 online, some sort of card, like if it is a debit card 15:46:56 | 19 | Q. Okay. So it sounds like, from what you just 15:49:14 | | | 20 or a credit card, needs to be used; right?<br>15:47:03 | | 20 said, it could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok's wife or it 15:49:19 | | 21 | A. Correct.<br>15:47:07 | | 21 could have been Mr. Ho Wan Kwok, couldn't it?<br>15:49:23 | | 22 | Q. Okay. Who uses that card?<br>15:47:08 | 22 | A. I'm not giving you an answer in here because 15:49:26 | | 23 | A. Who use that card?<br>15:47:10 | | 23 I don't know.<br>15:49:32 | | 24 | They -- people. I mean, his wife use it<br>15:47:16 | 24 | Q. That is what I'm getting at. You don't<br>15:49:32 | | | 25 also.<br>15:47:20<br>Page 202 | | 25 know.<br>15:49:35<br>Page 204 | | | | | | | | | | | | I | Q. Does he ever use the --<br>15:47:20 | | From what you are looking at on the bill,<br>15:49:36 | | 2 | A. !mean--<br>15:47:23 | | 2 you don't know who used the card, do you? Do you?<br>15:49:38 | | 3 | Q. Does he ever use the card?<br>15:47:24 | 3 | A. Youaretalkingaboutgrocery?<br>15:49:47 | | 4 | A. I don't think so. He doesn't read English<br>15:47:26 | 4 | Q. I'm talking about the examples you just<br>15:49:49 | | | 5 at all, so<br>15:47:30 | | 5 gave, Whole Foods or whatever else.<br>15:49:51 | | 6 | Q. I mean, well, I don't know that you need to<br>15:47:31 | 6 | When you see that on the bill, you just said 15:49:53 | | | | | | | | 7 read English to use a credit card or a debit card.<br>15:47:33 | | 7 you don't know who uses the card; correct?<br>15:49:56 | | 8 | Does he ever use the card to make purchases<br>15:47:37 | 8 | A. The family uses the card. I do know. The<br>15:50:00 | | | 9 himself?<br>15:47:42 | | 9 family uses the card.<br>15:50:04 | | 10 | A. Which time period you are asking about and<br>15:47:42 | 10 | Q. Sure. Sure.<br>15:50:06 | | | 11 by what kind of purchase methods?<br>15:47:44 | 11 | And Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is a member of the<br>15:50:07 | | 12 | Q. You--<br>15:47:44 | | 12 family, isn't he?<br>15:50: 10 | | 13 | A. If you are asking about online, he doesn't<br>15:47:47 | 13 | A. Correct.<br>15:50:12 | | | 14 read English.<br>15:47:50 | 14 | But he does not read English at all.<br>15:50:13 | | 15 | I mean, you have to be able to read English<br>15:47:51 | 15 | Q. Okay. Does his wife?<br>15:50: 16 | | | 16 to shopping online; right?<br>15:47:53 | 16 | A. His wife what?<br>15:50:18 | | 17 | Q. Does that --<br>15:47:53 | 17 | Q. Does his wife read English?<br>15:50:21 | | 18 | A. So with that, I can confirm he doesn't.<br>15:47:54 | 18 | A. I don't believe so.<br>15:50:24 | | 19 | Q. Were -- well, number one, I'm pretty sure<br>15:47:55 | 19 | MR. HARBACH: Okay. Give me just thirty<br>15:50:29 | | | 20 there are Websites in Chinese.<br>15:48:00 | | 20 seconds, please.<br>15:50:32 | | 21 | And, number two, let's just stick with the<br>15:48:03 | | 21 BY MR. HARBACH:<br>15:53:11 | | | 22 grocery example.<br>15:48:06 | 22 | Q. Thank you for your patience. Hopefully<br>15:53:12 | | 23 | Does he ever use the credit card or the<br>15:48:11 | | 23 I saved us a little time by taking that break. A few 15:53: 14 | | 25 | 24 debit card to buy groceries?<br>15:48: 15<br>MR. ROSEN: Objection.<br>15:48:19 | 25 | 24 cleanup questions, and I think we are finished.<br>15:53:19<br>What is your understanding of how<br>15:53:22 |

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1 Mr. Ho Wan Kwok is going to repay the \$21 million in 15:53:24 2 litigation loans? 15:53:28 3 A. I don't have understanding. I mean, he need 15:53:30 4 to pay back those loans ifhe win the case and then, 15:53:38 5 I mean, I assume there will be some success, and then 15:53:42 6 he should pay back the loan. That is all my 7 understanding. 15:53:49 8 Q. Is there a Golden Spring (New York) owned 9 car that stays at Mr. and Ms. Kwok's residence? 15:53:46 15:53:50 15:53:54 10 A. I don't recall. As I said, I am not a car 15:54:06 11 person. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo will deal with the car 15:54:09 12 at that part. 15:54:13 13 Q. Well, doesn't Golden Spring (New York) 15:54:14 1 One -- one -- the famous one more question 15:57: 11 2 that we lawyers like to ask. 15:57:14 3 BY MR. HARBACH: 15:57:16 4 Q. You have mentioned a couple of times that 15:57:17 5 Golden Spring has enough money to carry on its daily 15 :57: 19 6 operations. 15:57:23 7 What is the operating budget for 15:57:25 8 Golden Spring (New York) for those daily operations? 15:57:29 9 The annual budget, say, approximately. 10 A. The annual is going to be anything 15:57:34 15:57:42 11 between -- I mean, operating mean paying the lease, 15:57:47 12 paying the employees and office supplies, furniture, 15:57:54 13 everything. 15:57:59 14 Limited pay for a chauffeur for Mr. Ho Wan Kwok? 15:54:17 14 Q. I'm asking, yeah, everything that you would 15:57:59 15 16 A. We pay the employees, yes. 15:54:23 Q. Okay. And my question to you isn't about 15:54:26 17 what kind of car it is. 15:54:30 18 I'm just asking whether there is a car and 15:54:32 19 a chauffeur that is available to Mr. Kwok whenever he 15:54:35 20 needs it. 15:54:39 21 A. I mean, Mr. Qiang Guo would -- does rent 15:54:44 22 a car for his father, and then Golden Spring pay the 15 :54: 50 23 chauffeur. That is what I can confirm. 15:54:53 15 lump under day-to-day operations, as you said 15:58:02 16 earlier. 15:58:06 17 A. I'm answering your question, sir. 15:58:07 18 It is anything and everything between annual 15:58:10 19 lease between 2 to 3 million, at least-- at least 15:58: 13 20 the minimal. 15:58:17 21 Q. Okay. All right. Those are all my 15:58:18 22 questions. 15:58:21 23 MR. HARBACH: I don't know if any of the 24 Q. Okay. Do you have personal knowledge of who 15:54:58 24 other counsel who have endured this to this point 15:58:23 15:58:24 25 owns the residence where they live? 15:55:04 I 2 3 MR. HARBACH: Don't worry, Scott. I won't stay here long. 15:55:11 THE WITNESS: You are asking personal Page 206 15:55:09 15:55:15 4 knowledge? 5 BY MR. HARBACH: 15:55: 18 15:55:19 6 7 Q. I'm asking if you know. 15:55:19 MR. ROSEN: If you know. It calls for 15:55:21 8 yes-or-no answer. 15:55:26 9 THE WITNESS: I don't have personal 15:55:26 10 knowledge. 15:55:28 11 MR. HARBACH: Okay. I'm going to make 15:55:29 12 a request, Scott, to supplement our earlier request 15:55:30 13 for the loan documents. 15:55:39 14 I'm also going to request that Golden Spring 15:55:40 15 (New York) please promptly produce to us the 15:55:43 16 notations in the books and records that the witness 15: 5 5: 50 17 referred to as evidencing the oral loans for 15:55:55 18 litigation. 15:56:02 19 Do you understand what I'm talking about? 15:56:04 20 21 22 MR. ROSEN: I'm just taking notes right now. 15:56:07 MR. HARBACH: Okay. 15:56:10 MR. ROSEN: I believe I understand your 23 question, and we will take that under advisement. 24 MR. HARBACH: Okay. Those are -- just -- 25 just one second, please. 15:56:27 15:56: 13 15:56: 15 15:56:18 Page 207 25 want to ask any questions. 15:58:28 I 2 Page 208 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: It doesn't sound like it. 15:58:39 MR. HARBACH: All right. Well, Ms. Wang, 15:58:42 3 thank you very much for your time and your patience 15:58:44 4 with my questions today. 15:58:48 5 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are offthe record at 15:58:51 6 3:58 p.m. 15:58:53 7 And this concludes today's testimony given 15:58:54 8 by Yvette Wang as a 30(b)(6) witness for 15:58:57 9 Golden Spring (New York). 15:59:00 10 The total number of media units used was one 15:59:00 11 and will be retained by Veritext Legal Solutions. 15:59:04 12 MR. HARBACH: This is David Harbach, of 16:03:38 13 O'Melveny & Myers, for Pacific Alliance. 16:04:03 14 And I would like to supplement the 16:04:06 15 deposition exhibits with one additional exhibit that 16:04: 10 16 will be called Exhibit 6. (Deposition Exhibit Number 6 16:04: 13 17 16:04: 13 18 19 was marked for identification.) 16:04:16 MR. HARBACH: And it is the notice of 16:04: 16 20 deposition for today's witness. I have spoken to the 16:04:21 21 deponent's counsel, Mr. Rosen, and he does not object 16:04:25 22 to it being added as an exhibit. 16:04:28 23 MR. ROSEN: Can we put -- put it up on the 16:04:32 24 screen? 16:04:36 25 MR. HARBACH: Yes. Yes. 16:04:37 Page 209

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| | | | 1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA) | |----|--------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------------------------------------------| | | My colleague is working on that right now.<br>16:04:39 | | | | 2 | THE REPORTER: Mr. Rosen, would you like<br>16:05:30 | | ) SS.<br>2 COUNTY or KERN | | | 3 a copy of the transcript?<br>16:05:35 | 3 | | | 4 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.<br>16:06:02 | 4 | | | 5 | THE REPORTER: And would you like a rough?<br>16:06:09 | 5 | I, B. Suzanne Hull, a Certified Shorthand | | 6 | MR. ROSEN: Yes.<br>16:06:14 | | 6 Reporter in the State of California, holding | | 7 | Copy to be delivered tonight.<br>16:06:22 | | 7 Certificate Number 13495, du hereby certify Uial | | | 8 (4:28 p.m.) | | 8 YAN PING WANG, the witness named in the foregoing | | 9 | --00000-- | | 9 deposition, was by me duly sworn; that said | | 10 | | | 10 deposition, was taken Tuesday, April 12, 2022, at the | | II | | | 11 time and place set forth on the first page hereof. | | 12 | | 12 | That upon the taking of the deposition, the | | 13 | | | 13 words of the witness were written down hy me in | | 14 | | | 14 stenotypy and thereafter transcribed by computer | | 15 | | | 15 under my supervision; that the foregoing is a true | | 16 | | | 16 and correct transcript of the testimony given by the | | 17 | | | 17 witness. | | 18 | | 18 | Pursuant to Federal Rule 30( e ), transcript | | 19 | | | 19 review was requested. | | 20 | | 20 | I further certify that I am neither counsel | | 21 | | | 21 for nor in any way related to any party to said | | 22 | | | 22 action, nor in any way interested in the result or | | 23 | | | 23 outcome thereof. | | 24 | | | 24 Ill | | 25 | | | 25 Ill | | | Page 210 | | Page 212 | | | 1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA) | 1 | Dated this 12th day of April, 2022, at | | | | | | | | ) ss. | | 2 Bakersfield, California. | | | 2 COUNTY OF KERN<br>) | 3 | | | 3 | | | | | 4 | I, YAN PING WANG, do hereby certify: | 4 | Jj_ ~uzanne ttllll, L~.K l'W. 13495 | | 5 | That I have read the foregoing | 5 | ~ | | | 6 deposition; | 6 | | | 7 | That I have made such changes in form and/or | 7 | | | | 8 substance to the within deposition, as might be | 8 | | | | 9 necessary to render the same true and correct; | 9 | | | 10 | That having made such changes thereon, I | 10 | | | | 11 hereby subscribe my name to the deposition. | 11 | | | 12 | I declare, under penalty of perjury, that | 12 | | | | 13 the foregoing is true and correct. | 13 | | | 14 | __<br>day of _____<br>Executed this<br>, | 14 | | | | __________<br>15 2022, at<br>, California. | 15 | | | 16 | | 16 | | | 17 | | 17 | | | 18 | | 18 | | | 19 | | 19 | | | 20 | | 20 | | | 21 | | 21 | | | 22 | | 22 | | | 23 | | 23 | | | 24 | | 24 | | | 25 | Page 211 | 25 | Page 213 |

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| 1 | YAN PING WANG | | 1 IN RE: HOW AN KWOK | | | | |----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----|----------------------|------------|----------------------------------|----------| | 2 | goldenspringny@protonmail.com | | | | 2 YAN PING WANG, JOB NO. 5181285 | | | 3 | April 12, 2022 | 3 | | | ERRATA SHEET | | | 4 | IN RE: HO WAN KWOK | | --<br>4 PAGE | --<br>LINE | CHANGE | | | 5 | APRIL 12, 2022, YAN PING WANG, JOB NO. 5181285 | 5 | | | | | | 6 | The above-referenced transcript has been | | --<br>6 REASON | -- | | | | 7 | completed by Veritext Legal Solutions and | | 7 PAGE | LINE | CHANGE | | | 8 | review of the transcript is being handled as follows: | 8 | | | | | | 9 | _ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e))- Contact Veritext | | 9 REASON | | | | | 10 | to schedule a time to review the original transcript at | | 10 PAGE | --<br>LINE | CHANGE | | | 11 | a Veritext office. | 11 | | | | | | 12 | _ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e))- Locked .PDF | | --<br>12 REASON | -- | | | | 13 | Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and | | 13 PAGE | LINE | CHANGE | | | 14 | make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included | 14 | | | | | | 15 | below, notating the page and line number of the corrections. | | --<br>15 REASON | -- | | | | 16 | The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty | | 16 PAGE | LINE | CHANGE | | | 17 | of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all | 17 | | | | | | 18 | appearing counsel within the period of time determined at | | --<br>18 REASON | -- | | | | 19 | the deposition or provided by the Code of Civil Procedure. | | 19 PAGE | LINE | CHANGE | | | 20 | _ Waiving the CA Code of Civil Procedure per Stipulation of | 20 | | | | | | 21<br>22 | Counsel - Original transcript to be released for signature<br>as determined at the deposition. | 22 | 21 REASON | | | | | 23 | _ Signature Waived - Reading & Signature was waived at the | 23 | | | | | | 24 | time of the deposition. | | 24 WITNESS | | Date | | | 25 | | 25 | | | | | | | Page 214 | | | | | Page 216 | | | | | | | | | | 1 | _X_Federal R&S Requested (FRCP 30(e)(l)(B))-Locked .PDF | | | | | | | 2 | Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and | | | | | | | 3 | make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included | | | | | | | 4 | below, notating the page and line number of the corrections. | | | | | | | 5 | The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty<br>of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all | | | | | | | 6<br>7 | appearing counsel within the period of time determined at | | | | | | | 8 | the deposition or provided by the Federal Rules. | | | | | | | 9 | _ Federal R&S Not Requested - Reading & Signature was not | | | | | | | 10 | requested before the completion of the deposition. | | | | | | | 11 | | | | | | | | 12 | | | | | | | | 13 | | | | | | | | 14 | | | | | | | | 15 | | | | | | | | 16 | | | | | | | | 17 | | | | | | | | 18 | | | | | | | | 19 | | | | | | | | 20 | | | | | | | | 21 | | | | | | | | 22 | | | | | | | | 23 | | | | | | | | 24 | | | | | | | | 25 | | | | | | | | | Page 215 | | | | | |

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#### **[assistant** - **birnbaum]**

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PAX-015-059

| [bit - cbshealaw.com] | | |-----------------------|--| |-----------------------|--|

| bit 30:25 37:8 | 2:4 8:7,10<br>brown | calculate<br>70:4 | 198:23 202:13,19 | |----------------------|---------------------|----------------------|-----------------------| | 46:25 162:14 | 18:6 | calculating 193:19 | 202:19,20,22,23 | | 195:4 | brownrudnick.c | calculation<br>70:7 | 203:3,7,7,8,23,24 | | hlamed<br>86:3 | 2:9.9 | california<br>10:5 | 204:3,11,11 205:2 | | blower<br>117:18 | bsilverberg 2:9 | 211:1,15 212:1,6 | 205:7,8,9 | | book<br>34:2 189:8 | budget 208:7,9 | 213:2 | cards 102:16,22 | | books<br>190:18,22 | build 118:21 | call 16:6,20 28:15 | 102:23 103:1 | | 207:16 | 174:19 | 43:3 95:25 102:8 | 204:18 | | 177:17<br>borrowed | 171:5<br>building | called 8:24 9:9,19 | care 96:1,4 98:16 | | 177:19<br>borrower | business<br>24:24 | 14:18 39:5 86:13 | 98:25 99:5,6 | | 185:23,24,25 | 48:9 74:24 79:8 | 89:17 93:19 | 100:11,16 138:5 | | 187:6 188:10 | 79:15 80:5,11,12 | 112:23 114:20 | 139:2 141:17 | | boss 30:7 78:17,22 | 80:15,18 81:20 | 209:16 | 143:5 148:4,6,11 | | 78:24,25 81:2,6 | 97:15 114:7,9,10 | calling 76:11 77:9 | 148:16 154:11,14 | | 86:16,18,20,21 | 114:11 115:15,19 | 199:15 | 159:11 160:1,5,10 | | hottom 47:4 | 115:20 116:4 | calls 52:2 155:18 | 160:13,18 161:2 | | 167:19,22 | 117:11,16,19 | 207:7 | 161:13,19,23,24 | | brain 63:7 | 118:1 119:9 | candidate<br>154:13 | 162:4,17,22 180:9 | | branded 174:22 | 120:18 121:18 | candidates<br>152:16 | 181:23,23 195:25 | | 114:20,24<br>bravo | 122:5 168:14 | 54:11<br>cantonese | 197:11 199:11 | | 115:4,11 | 175:17,19 183:17 | 177:21<br>cap | career 31:18 | | break 66:17 67:4 | 106:3,15,19<br>buy | capability 154:18 | 164:18 | | 111:24 112:3,4 | 107:9,9,15,24 | capacity 51:23 | careful<br>185:8 | | 126:17,20 167:3 | 108:5 143:7 183:1 | 52:13 54:19 58:7 | carried<br>168:14 | | 173:21 174:1 | 194:14 196:7,15 | 60:1 90:8,10,17,23 | 208:5<br>carry | | 205:23 | 196:17,17,18,19 | 91:15,21,23 92:1,4 | 109:22,25<br>cars | | bridgeport 1:3 | 197:21 198:1,15 | 92:5,16 95:5 | 110:4,6 111:17 | | 7:13 | 198:18 199:12,19 | 105:7 141:23 | 181:14 | | brief 138:19 | 200:5 202:2,11,15 | 178:21 191:24 | 1:777:13 11:8<br>case | | 142:18 | 202:17 203:24 | 167:15<br>captioned | 14:18,20,22 37:6 | | briefed 138:1,10 | 204:11 | 108:20 110:3<br>car | 90:15 101:10 | | 138:13,16,21,24 | buying 204:16 | 111:4 195:13,17 | 129:16 130:20 | | 161:18 | 196:13<br>buys | 206:9,10,11,17,18 | 142:22 206:4 | | briefing<br>149:16 | 198:11 200:6 | 206:22 | cash 127:10,12,13 | | 144:19,23<br>briefly | bylaws<br>163:22,25 | card 99:21 100:5 | 127:14 | | 182:20<br>bring | 164:1,5,11,15 | 101:22,25 102:14 | catch 173:18 | | broad<br>165:6 | 165:1,3,7,14,17 | 102:17,24 103:4,7 | category 123:15 | | 86.3<br>broken | C | 103:14 104:6,10 | 176:22 | | 84:10<br>brothers | 153:15<br>c'mon | 104:15,22,25 | cater 92:10 | | 86:10<br>brought | 214:9,12,20<br>ca | 105:1 195:10 | cbshealaw.com | | 87.3 | | 196:11 198:7,7,20 | 2:24 | | | | | |

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### **[complicated** - **court]**

| complicated<br>17:24 | console<br>129: 18 | 31:21,22 33:17,23 | 16: 14 19:21 20:3 | |-----------------------|------------------------|------------------------|-------------------------| | complies<br>21: 1, 12 | constraints<br>164: 10 | 36:17 39:14 43:1 | 26:141:2153:7,9 | | 23:4 28:25 29:4 | consult<br>18:5 | 43:2 48:8,12 | 125:25 140:8 | | 32:22 33:2,9 35:3 | 106: 16,20,22 | 51: 13, 15, 16, 19,20 | 150:5,9,20 151 :6 | | 35:5 43:15 46:19 | consulted<br>134:25 | 52:24 54: 1 60:21 | 151:12,24 152:18 | | 46:22,24 55: 12,23 | 135:4,5,7 | 62:2 69: 16 77:2,3 | 152:23 153 :9 | | 56:23 57:5, 17 | contact<br>79:25 | 77:5,6 79: 16,22 | 156:2,19,19 | | 58:1 73:12 74:4 | 149:20 154:24 | 84:16 85:1,13,14 | 157: 11,14 208:24 | | 83:14,20 87:25 | 214:9 | 90:18,20,24 91:13 | 209:21 212:20 | | 88:4,9 167: 13 | contained<br>15 :7 | 91: 16 97: 15 | 214: 18,21 215:7 | | composed<br>121: 13 | contains<br>189: 16 | 104: 19,23 105:21 | counsel's<br>150: 10 | | computer<br>19:25 | contested<br>37:4 | 106:17 108:21 | 153:17,18 154:3 | | 212: 14 | 130: 19 | 111:2,4,5,7 117:2 | 154:24 | | con<br>26:11 | context<br>26: 12 | 121:16,18 129:23 | counsels<br>16:5 | | concerned<br>21:4 | continue<br>193:1 | 135:25 136:21 | 144:25 | | 76:6 158: 17 | continued<br>3:1 5:1 | 137:5,11,12,25 | count<br>80:3 | | concerns<br>71 :22 | contributed<br>122: 1 | 139: 12 142:8,10 | countless<br>159: 14 | | 126:25 128:22 | 122:7 | 142:11,12 145:12 | countries<br>175 :23 | | 185:9 | controls<br>122:6 | 149: 1 155:6,24 | country<br>27: 14 | | concludes<br>209:7 | conversation | 157: 13 161: 15 | 115:23 116:8 | | conclusion<br>52:3 | 139: 10 162:7,19 | 166: 15 175: 11 | county<br>211:2 | | conditions<br>146: 14 | 178: 14 191:7 | 185:13 187:17,19 | 212:2 | | conduct<br>155: 17 | conversations | 189: 1,2,5,6, 10, 12 | couple<br>10:2119:3 | | conducted<br>14: 10 | 16:13 77:22 | 189: 18 190:4,5,20 | 73:8 97: 13 109:22 | | 80:25 128:24 | 149:19 171:22 | 190:25 192:21 | 110:1135:15 | | 155:2 | 178:7 | 198:7 202:21 | 138:20 149:7 | | confess<br>67:7 | convince<br>181:7,7 | 205:7,13 211:9,13 | 208:4 | | confirm<br>92:7 | convinced<br>180: 1 | 212: 16 | course<br>14:21 47:7 | | 198:9 203:18 | cooperate<br>78 :20 | corrected<br>75:22 | 48:18,20,23 61:18 | | 206:23 | coordinate<br>118: 12 | 75:23,24 76:4 | 81:24 85:2 121:20 | | confusing<br>22:25 | copy<br>210:3,7 | correction<br>29: 18 | 126:2 130:5 131:7 | | 121: 10 | 57: 1<br>corner | 46:20 76:6 91:5 | 135:6 137: 15 | | confusion<br>22: 19 | corporate<br>1: 16 | 169:17 | 142: 18 147:3,3 | | 23:8 | 9: 19 15:3 44:21 | corrections<br>214: 14 | 154: 18 170:23 | | connecticut<br>1 :2 | corporation<br>4:21 | 214: 15 215:3,4 | 174:19 181:13 | | 2:23 3:12 7:13 | 23:24 34:1168:13 | correctly<br>75: 1 | court<br>1: 1 7: 12, 19 | | connolly<br>170: 16 | 168:21 170: 15 | 107:21 172:5,16 | 8:18 10:4,11,11 | | 170:19 172:2,3,7,9 | corporation's | 192:19 | 11:22 14:23 48:2 | | 172: 19 | 168:3 | costs<br>177:8, 16 | 50: 11 57:8 85:3 | | consecutive<br>24:6 | correct<br>16: 1 18:4 | counsel<br>7:21 9:20 | 146: 11 194:9 | | 25:2 | 24: 19,21 30: 11,12 | 10:15 12:20 16:13 | | | | | | |

[courts - described]

| 37:14 38:8<br>courts | d | debtor 1:9 2:4 8:8 | department 3:4 | |----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|---------------------| | 15:773:15<br>cover | 2:21 4:1 148:25<br>て | 8:10 40:6 41:24 | 87:9,12 128:1 | | 177:15 | dad<br>199:13 | 53:11,23 85:12 | 155:1,9,16,23 | | covered 37.9 | 128:16<br>daily | 131:4,10,25 132:7 | 99:4<br>depo | | covid<br>16:5 | 142:17,19 149:24 | 132:15,19 134:21 | deponent's 209:21 | | craig<br>193:11,14 | 151:2 179:6,8 | 135:3,10 137:4 | deposed 13:22 | | create<br>43:19 44:2 | 208:5,8 | 156:19 186:14 | 14:1,5,12 36:8,16 | | created 43:20 | daniel<br>148:24 | debtor's 53:24 | 90:7 92:20 94:6 | | 114:13.24 115:8 | date 23:17 29:13 | 131:17,17,18 | deposition 1:14 | | 115:15,16 116:6,8 | 30:24 31:7 33:17 | debtors<br>146:16 | 5:11 7:9,15 11:7 | | 117:6 123:9 | 36:8 73:17 104:5 | decide<br>106:22 | 11:21 13:25 14:4 | | credentials 9:25 | 168:3,9 214:16 | 107:11 | 14:10 15:8,12,20 | | 10:8 | 215:5 216:24 | decided<br>183:1 | 16:10,24 17:2,12 | | credit<br>99:21 | dated 4:16,24 5:7 | decides<br>183:6 | 17:16,20 18:7.19 | | 101:21,25 102:14 | 5:15 73:16 213:1 | decision<br>134:20 | 19:7 20:1,8 21:7 | | 102:16,17,22,23 | 14:2,2 21:5<br>dates | 135:1,8,12,14,17 | 28:17 29:17 37:4 | | 102:25 129:4 | daughter 84:9 | 135:19,21,24 | 37:18 38:6 43:5 | | 195:10 196:11 | david 2:11 7:24 | 136:3 137:3.5.6.14 | 47:24 48:2,25 | | 198:6,20 202:20 | 10:20 65:12 116:2 | 137:17,18,25 | 55:10 65:19 73:17 | | 203:7,23 204:11 | 153:15 156:9 | 142:19 143:8 | 76:20 80:25 95:8 | | creditor 2:11,21 | 157:22 187:23 | 152:8,10 153:19 | 95:15 96:17 109:5 | | 7:11 9:20 128:24 | 209:12 | 154:3,22 164:19 | 116:12 125:18 | | creditors 3:10 8:6 | 49:3,6,7 50:15<br>day | 165:10 179:5,8,20 | 130:15,18 133:17 | | 194:25 | 69:22 109:2 | 180:20 181:11,20 | 133:21 134:5 | | 127:2<br>credits | 127:19,20 139:25 | 181:21 183:12 | 145:13 156:21 | | 75:7<br>crystal | 140:1 145:21 | 184:2 201:1 | 162:13 163:1 | | 1:25 213:4<br>csr | 163:7,10 168:15 | 142:14<br>decisions | 166:23 209:15,17 | | culture 49:23,24 | 173:15 194:22,22 | 142:17 164:2 | 209:20 211:6,8,11 | | 49:24 | 195:15,15 196:5,5 | 178:25 | 212:9,10,12 | | current 45:1 | 208:15,15 211:14 | 211:12<br>declare | 214:19,22,24 | | 125:10 129:3 | 213:1 | 146:20,25<br>default | 215:8,10 | | 148:17 150:5.19 | 2:13 3:7<br>dc. | 147.8 | depositions<br>11:2 | | 151:24 153:3 | deal 195:21 | defendant<br>૨૪-9 | 14:24 | | currently 124:14 | 206:11 | definitely<br>59:22 | describe 85:15 | | 150:2 152:18 | debate 125:19 | de aware 4:21 5:4 | 92:23 174:15 | | 156:4.7 157:2.4 | 102:24 103:4<br>debit | 167:16 168:4,22 | 175:16 179:3 | | 190:3 | 103:7,13 104:6,10 | 171.9 | described 68:22 | | cute<br>104:2 | 104:15,22,24 | delay 19:12 44:6 | 69:670:17 91:22 | | | 105:1 198:7,23 | delivered 210:7 | 117:12 120:14 | | | 202:12,19 203:7 | 58:4<br>dep | 124:22 186:11 | | | 203:24 204:11 | | | | | | | |

[description - employee]

| description<br>4:11 | direct 21:10 84:4 | discuss 126:1 | driver<br>35:10 | |---------------------|----------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------------| | 5:2 | 91:4 158:5 | 140:21 141:2 | 19:10<br>drop | | 187:5<br>designed | directed 27:7 | discussion<br>174:21 | 16:5<br>due | | 118:11<br>designer | 192:15,20 | 132:4<br>displaying | 169:8<br>dug | | details<br>36:15 | direction 82:2 | disregard 125:2 | duly 9:1.11.21 | | 64:23 105:12 | 117:17 190:24 | district 1:2 7:12 | 168:13,20 212:9 | | 113:15 147:2 | directly 99:22 | dive<br>198.8 | duties 26:18,23 | | 153:3 181:16 | 100:8,9 101:1 | diversified 45:15 | 44:17 45:7 46:4 | | determined | 103:24 110:10 | 114:11 | 69:6 77:23 169:15 | | 214:18,22 215:7 | 159:4,8,22 177:18 | division<br>1:37:13 | duty 27:2 149:9 | | develop 115:18 | director 4:19 28:9 | document 20:5,7 | 196:23<br>dwell | | 117:15 174:21 | 32:14 38:18,19,22 | 21:24 28:14 43:16 | dwelling 72:9,10 | | device | 42:23,25 43:24 | 43:18,22 44:2 | e | | dharbach<br>2:14 | 45:25 46:13 47:20 | 56:18 61:13 62:24 | 4:1,9 38:14,23 | | dictionary<br>60:9 | 49:5 56:9 97:20 | 63:9 167:1.4 | e<br>39:9 147:15 | | difference<br>101:8 | 98:3 110:19 123:7 | 169:8,12,14 170:2 | 148:25 212:18 | | 176:17 | 134:19 142:6 | 171:8 172:21 | 214:9,12 215:1 | | different 116:11 | 175:13 181:19 | documentation | 216:3,3,3 | | 120:14 127:15 | directors 34:16 | 170:21 | earlier 47:1 53:11 | | 136:18,20 166:2 | 37:10 148:18 | documented | 77:22 87:14 99:9 | | 175:23 | 168:20 | 187:21,25 188:1,8 | 118:5 158:22 | | difficult 195:2 | disagree<br>129:8 | 189:4,12 190:17 | 176:15 182:9 | | dip 37:5,11 42:3 | 156:22 158:7 | documents 15:16 | 188:4 193:15 | | 42:13 66:12 94:21 | 183:5,9 184:4 | 15:18 166:16 | 195:9 207:12 | | 125:15 130:20 | 193:1 | 169:11 170:7 | 208:16 | | 131:22,23 132:1,4 | disagreed 137:13 | 184:15 185:12,14 | 39:16<br>ease | | 132:9,11,23 134:7 | 179:15 180:19 | 186:11 190:3,7 | 7:3 184:20<br>east | | 134:8,21 135:2,9 | 183:1,11 | 207:13 | 190:3 | | 136:18,23 137:4 | disagreement | doing 11:21 45:10 | 14:19.19<br>eastern | | 137:18 138:3,19 | 179:19 181:22 | 45:11 80:22 93:5 | efficient 87:15 | | 139:2,5,14 140:12 | 182:3 | 115:21 117:17 | 83:19,22 | | 140:21 142:21,23 | disagreements | 128:1 141:6 | eight<br>84.2 | | 144:5,11,18 145:9 | 179:23 181:3 | 160:19 | | | 145:17,21 146:8 | disappeared 48:11 | dollars 179:1,9,12 | eighteenth 72:20<br>either 16.13.38.7 | | 146:21,25 147:2,8 | disclose 124:24,24 | 179:20,21 180:21 | 48:10 59:22 63:19 | | 147:19 158:18 | 150:10 | 183:13 184:3 | elected<br>168:20 | | 159:2,6,14,16 | disclosing<br>16:12 | drafted 58:18 | | | 160:25 162:11,13 | 42:11 | 63.75 68.8 | employed<br>36:1 | | 162:23 163:11,15 | disclosure<br>130:15 | drill<br>171-5 | employee 35:14,20 | | 176:17 177:3 | 130:23 | 194:8<br>drive | 78:15,16,18 79:4 | | 180:7 | | | 81:9,15 84:13<br>85:19,23,24 86:4,6 | | | | | |

[employee - family]

| 123:7 151:12,17 | estate 47:15 51:9 | 44:10 46:18,21 | 37:13 38:8<br>extend | |----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------------------| | 153:3 154:13 | 51:17 114:10 | 47:6 55:9,10,19 | extended 176:10 | | 155:7 156:10 | 115:20 117:22,24 | 56:2,4,9,13 57:1 | 185:8<br>extra | | employees 34:21 | 117:25 118:9,11 | 62:5,16,23 64:9 | 2:12<br>eye | | 37:10 48:10 78:15 | 181:4 182:6 | 67:5.19.21 73:11 | f | | 151:13 156:6,12 | 183:15,19 184:5 | 83:13,15 87:16,23 | 116:22 147:15 | | 157:1,2 158:3 | 68:12<br>et | 87:24 88:1,2 91:4 | facilitate 118:12 | | 192:20 206:15 | events 146:19,24 | 91:5,6 166:20,23 | fact 50:22 80:16 | | 208:12 | 147.7 | 167:9,12 171:17 | 80:20 89:4 123:2 | | employer 153:5,17 | everybody 19:11 | 172:8 209:15,16 | | | 153:19 154:3,7,20 | 163:19 173:24 | 209:17,22 | 169:17,22<br>factor<br>153:19 | | 154:25 155:6 | evidencing 207:17 | exhibits 5:1 19:15 | 154-3 | | empowered | 71:14 184:23<br>exact | 20:16 209:15 | | | 142:14 | exactly 98:17 | 145:18<br>existed | facts 32:8 166:9 | | endured<br>208:24 | 180:15 | 115:18<br>expand | failure 168:18<br>172:24 | | 129:7<br>engage | examination 4:3 | 122:15<br>expect | | | 8:25,25<br>english | 10:17 | 124:10 158:18,21 | fair 60:18 72:23<br>74:1 90:6 94:14 | | 9:10,10 10:10 | examined<br>14:5 | expectation 50:12 | 162:20 170:5 | | 11:3,5,6,7,11,25 | 94:6<br>example | expected<br>184:10 | 173:17 | | 29:25 38:23 39:22 | 95:23 99:3 102:2 | expecting<br>169:6 | | | 40:16 50:2 55:16 | 102:5,6 105:10 | expedition 37:13 | familiar 144:5,11<br>146:19 186:20 | | 62:25 63:25 79:19 | 106:19 108:11 | 100:11<br>expenses | | | 86:4 98:10 144:4 | 143:6 179:5 | 192:15 193:20,23 | families<br>86:25 | | 144:19 201:20 | 183:10,23 184:2,2 | 194:3 | family 24:24 29:11 | | 203:4,7,14,15 | 184:7 198:14,16 | expensive<br>108:6.9 | 29:23 30:6,9,10,13 | | 205:14,17 | 200:72201:18 | 194:14 | 30:17,19 31:2,15 | | ensure<br>98:24 | 203:22 | 45:1<br>experience | 31:18,20 48:9 | | ensured<br>98:6 | 182:3,5<br>examples | 161:24 | 52:1,17,23 54:22 | | 98:4<br>ensuring | 182:10,16 205:4 | explain 20:4 41:21 | 58:12,17 68:2,7 | | 118:15<br>enterprise | 20:11<br>exceeds | 64:5 75:3 151:8 | 81:11 84:8 85:6,6 | | 175:17 | 15:11 56:5<br>excuse | 177:13 200:14 | 85:7,11,25 86:5,6 | | entire 48:8 84:17 | 58:5 128:3 163:18 | explained 93:7 | 86:12,17 87:7 | | 85:7 129:15 155:7 | 194:4 | 175:6 176:16 | 91:15,20 95:7 | | 164:18 170:14 | 65:10<br>executed | 180:25 182:4 | 113:6,7 115:16 | | 174:19 | 211:14 | 183:17 | 118:3,4,7,22 119:6 | | errata 214:14,16 | executing<br>166:13 | explanation 26:3 | 119:7,8,9,19,22 | | 215:3,5 | exhibit 4:11,12,16 | explore 42:193:5 | 120:12,15,17,23 | | 107.18<br>escalate | 4:19,23 5:2,3,3,9 | 116:3 | 121:3,8,13,15,17 | | 143.8 | 19:6,7 20:15 | exploring 44:23 | 121:17,23,24<br>122:22 123:21 | | established 66:11 | 28:17,20 32:20,21 | 65:24 | 124:5 157:17 | | | 33:8 35:2 43:5 | | 164:16.17.23 | | | | | |

## [family - fourteen]

| 176:10,10 181:16 | figure 26:9 111:10 | finishing 173:25 | follow 32:4 102:15 | |----------------------|----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------| | 182:17 183:20 | 128:11 135:14 | 171.4<br>fire | 168:23 197:12,18 | | 184:24 205:8,9,12 | 143:3,11,21 144:3 | firm 7:17,19 15:14 | followed<br>164:15 | | famous 208:1 | 187:16 | 15:25 17:21,22 | following<br>109:2 | | far<br>37:6,10 95:14 | 102:13<br>figuring | 18:6 60:25 124:8 | follows 9:2,12,22 | | 98:19 124:3 | 195:2 | 193:5 | 58:11 214:8 | | 158:16 160:4 | file 20:19 168:18 | firm's 17:23,25 | food 95:25 99:9,20 | | 164:9 165:3 180:6 | 172:24 | 17:21 114:3<br>firms | 99:20 107:12,22 | | 187:15 198:21 | filed 7:11 57:7 | first 9:21 23:17 | 141:18 | | father 53:20 68:25 | 65:25 167:23 | 25:13 30:4 50:5 | foods 204:17 | | 69:12 91:20 92:18 | 168:19 171:8 | 52:10 55:1,21 | 205:5 | | 92:19 96:1,4 | 173:8 | 56:16 58:4 62:23 | foregoing 211:5 | | 98:16 99:6 108:24 | filing 168:3 | 62:25 69:7 75:3,7 | 211:13 212:8,15 | | 109:2 113:13 | 191:21<br>fill | 86:10 87:6 139:4 | forgeries 170:8 | | 117:18 119:15 | filling 192:4 | 139:7 143:15 | forget 29:14 30:24 | | 122:24 134:9 | finance<br>128:1 | 144:14 145:16,21 | 75:23 | | 136:2 143:7 | 160:24 162:10 | 153:8,13 162:9,23 | forgive<br>185:8 | | 175:25 176:6 | 190:23 196:12,12 | 163:3,7,10 168:15 | 31:8<br>forgot | | 177:22 180:11,12 | 197:8 198:8 199:7 | 174:19 201:5 | form 13:1 121:5 | | 182:19,20,22 | 199:13 | 212:11 | 211:7 | | 191:8 196:11 199:9 | financial 46:14,16 | fishing 37:13 | 189:17<br>formal | | 199:11,23 201:9 | 47:13,22 49:8,9,13 | five 4:18 5:7 29:7 | formed<br>18:10,11 | | 206:22 | 49:20 50:3,19,22 | 33:1.7 41:13 59:3 | 147:14,21<br>forsyth | | father's<br>95:24 | 127:25 189:8,11 | 59:5 79:24 80:7 | forth<br>141:24,25 | | 100:18 134:9 | 189:22 191:22 | 85:21 168:11 | 142:3 195:10 | | 182:18 201:11 | 192:5 | fix 170:25 173:15 | 212:11 | | february 33:11,17 | financials<br>101:16 | 173:19 | forty 4:14 20:20 | | 33:23 35:14,17 | 37:5<br>financing | 167:8<br>fixing | 29:3,5 35:4 46:23 | | federal 5:13 | 131:4,11 132:19 | floor<br>72:20 | 47:1,3,4,8 83:19 | | 212:18 215:1,8,9 | 132:24 134:21 | flow 127:10,12,13 | 83:22 84:2 88:8 | | 107:2<br>fee | 135:3,10 136:23 | 127:14 | 88:14 | | feel<br>98:13 153:2 | find 23:1 110:3,23 | focus 23:17 33:16 | forward 53:20 | | 200:16 | 151:4 204:18 | 136:22 163:9 | 88:7 | | feeling 154:15 | fine 11:11 54:14 | focused<br>165:10 | four 21:25 22:13 | | 107:5<br>fees | 61:10 158:13 | focusing<br>166:6 | 22:13 30:2 36:6 | | fifteen 17:8,9,9 | 160:20 | 193:22 | 36:10,14 56:14 | | 138:20 | finish 12:3 63:5 | folder | 61:1964:22 65:8 | | fifth 197:21 | 78:5,7 | 28:20 | 91:7,9 116:22 | | 198:16, 19 | finished 84:20,22 | folders<br>19:18 | 142:7 | | fifty 59:7 | 116:20 205:24 | folks<br>112:9 163:17 | fourteen<br>157:4 | | | | | |

[frame - golden]

| 140:9<br>frame | 107:7 150:5,9,10 | going<br>7:6 13:3 | 51:24 52:14 54:20 | |-------------------------|----------------------|--------------------|-------------------| | frank<br>147:15 | 150:19 151:6,12 | 18:20 19:6 26:4 | 58:6,21,22,23 | | frep<br>215:1 | 151:24 152:18,23 | 26:15,21,25 28:13 | 59:21 65:21 67:25 | | frequency<br>109:1 | 153:9,17,18 154:2 | 29:2 37:1,12 42:9 | 68:10,11,16,23 | | frequently 69:17 | 154:24 156:1 | 43:3 44:10 53:20 | 69:2,8,9,14 71:4 | | 70:25 80:1 83:1 | 157:11,14 179:12 | 62:13 66:3,7,12,14 | 71:12 72:1,8 | | 108:13,23 140:13 | 183:4 201 :25 | 66:21 75:17 84:3 | 73:22 74:21,24 | | friend<br>80:6 | generally<br>15:12 | 87:13 90:10 91:4 | 77:18,21,25 78:12 | | 67:20<br>front | gentleman 35:11 | 96:6 97:9 99:7.7 | 78:19 79:7.15.18 | | fulfill<br>70:16 | getting 107:25 | 112:12 125:2,4,18 | 80:5,11,12,13,18 | | full 23:24 174:24 | 128:10 204:24 | 125:24 126:3,23 | 80:22 81:3,6 | | 175:8 | give 26:3 44:5 | 129:2 132:17 | 86:22 90:4,9,18 | | 129:7 130:21<br>fully | 71:17 82:1 96:2 | 135:13 136:6 | 91:16,17,18,24 | | fund<br>2:12 5:10 | 96:24 104:4 | 146:17 150:7.13 | 92:9,16 93:6 95:4 | | 9:21 99:4,8 | 105:10 153:3,8,8,8 | 158:5,20,24 | 95:24 97:2,20 | | 114:15,15 115:7 | 163:17 166:18 | 161:13 163:11.15 | 98:3,23 99:11 | | 143:6 159:2,6,16 | 182:21 183:25 | 166:19 174:2 | 100:16 102:7,22 | | 163:11 176:19 | 186:6 198:14,22 | 183:5,22 206:1 | 102:23,25 103:4,7 | | funded 114:12,23 | 198:24 205:19 | 207:11,14 208:10 | 103:9 104:6,10,13 | | 115:12 | 11:2 29:19<br>given | golden 2:21 4:20 | 104:14,17,22,24 | | funding 42:13 | 75:12 96:16,19 | 5:3,11 7:10 8:3 | 105:8 107:15,18 | | 136:2,16 180:10 | 108:2 136:4 200:7 | 15:3,20 16:9,22 | 108:3 109:4,11,13 | | funds 99:6 101:15 | 209:7212:16 | 17:2,4,10 18:9,11 | 109:18,21,22,25 | | 127:8 160:24 | 26:11,11<br>gives | 18:15,16,17,18,20 | 110:7,14,17,20,25 | | 162:10,24 | giving 204:22 | 18:21,24 21:5 | 111:11,17 113:21 | | furniture 194:14 | 11:7 20:13,16<br>ള്ള | 22:8 23:11,20,24 | 114:12,15,23 | | 208:12 | 23:1,2 31:9 32:20 | 23:25 24:2,3,12,13 | 115:8,12,14,16 | | further 37:2 | 32:25 35:4 46:18 | 24:14,18,21,23 | 116:5,8 117:6,10 | | 212:20 | 52:8 54:2 55:21 | 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 | 118:7,14 119:4,13 | | g | 56:8,21 57:4,14,25 | 27:15 28:9 30:8 | 119:13,18,23 | | 17:5,5 30:8,9 | 66:18 74:3 75:6,6 | 32:10,13,15 33:12 | 120:12,20,23,24 | | g<br>38:22,23,24 39:9,9 | 75:13,24 82:5,20 | 33:18 34:1,3,7,9 | 121:1,4,15,19 | | 39:12,12 86:14 | 83:9,13,18 88:1 | 34:13,16,22,25 | 122:1,7,13,20,21 | | 112:24 | 100:4 106:3 | 35:14,20 36:2,24 | 123:8,13 124:11 | | gasoline<br>11:8 | 107:15 108:5 | 37:21 38:1,18 | 124:21 125:7,14 | | gasolines<br>109:14 | 129:3 144:23 | 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 | 125:22 126:21,25 | | 109:14 | 153:25 167:9,11 | 42:2,5,21 43:25 | 127:7,8,9,17 | | gather 171:12 | 183:9 196:20 | 44:15,17,21,25 | 128:12,19,20,23 | | 188:7 | 197:2,6 202:9,12 | 45:7,17,21,25 46:6 | 129:14,17 130:11 | | general 27:4 46:7 | goes 47:7,1684:2 | 46:13 47:10,21 | 130:15 131:3,9 | | 46:8 71:20 107:4 | 197:14 201:8 | 49:5,19 50:24 | 132:18,21,22,23 | | | | | |

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| 133:7,16 134:19 | granted<br>130:21 | 138:21 139:11 | happened 32:8 | |--------------------|-------------------|----------------------|--------------------| | 135:2,9 136:1,17 | groceries 201:19 | 143:1,4 144:2 | 47:24 85:18 | | 137:7,10 140:25 | 201:20 202:5,11 | 147:18 148:3,5,10 | 105:13,17 106:25 | | 141:24 148:6,12 | 203:24 204:12,16 | 148:19 157:8 | 122:15 136:14 | | 148:15,18 150:2,6 | grocery 99:20 | 159:3,7,10,22 | 138:1,19,19 | | 150:20 151:11,25 | 100:21 201:21,24 | 161:2 163:12 | 170:13,23 173:3 | | 152:19,24 153:1 | 202:9, 10, 12 | 164:18 165:21 | 173:15,19 182:23 | | 153:10 156:1,6,18 | 203:22 205:3 | 172:7,12 175:12 | 183:8 199:9 | | 157:3,22 158:16 | grounds 120:1 | 175:17 177:18 | 85:16<br>happens | | 158:17,20 159:13 | guess 97:12 | 178:2,6,15,20 | 195:2 196:2.9 | | 160:21,24 163:21 | 165:11 | 179:16 180:7,20 | 197:22 198:2 | | 164:10,14 165:16 | guo<br>17:4 24:24 | 182:19 183:1,5 | 199:2 | | 165:22 166:4,14 | 29:10,23 30:6,8,9 | 187:5 189:20 | 12:12<br>happy | | 168:9 169:3, 15,25 | 30:10,13,17,19 | 191:3,8 194:16,16 | 38:8<br>harass | | 170:14,20 171:14 | 31:2,15,17,19,25 | 199:4,8,11,12,15 | harassed 125:14 | | 172:10 173:1,4 | 32:5 34:14 38:21 | 199:17,22 200:8 | harassment 42:14 | | 174:16 175:3,13 | 39:8,9,12,21 40:3 | 201:7 206:11,21 | 124:22 | | 176:23 177:7,14 | 40:8,17,24 41:6 | guo's 53:20 68:10 | harbach 2:11 4:5 | | 177:18 178:1,3 | 45:9 46:2 48:9 | 76:9 89:14 94:9 | 7:23,24 10:18,20 | | 180:5 184:10 | 53:2,5,12 55:3 | 106:2 113:12 | 12:23 13:2,5,10,11 | | 185:3 186:9,14 | 68:24 69:10,18 | 136:2 137:4 | 16:17 19:9,20,22 | | 187:4 188:25 | 70:10 75:22 76:12 | 142:15 170:18 | 19:24 20:6, 14, 17 | | 190:14,18,23 | 76:25 77:9,13,17 | 178:23 201:12 | 26:5,21 27:8 | | 191:10 192:3,11 | 77:22 78:12 79:14 | h | 28:15,19 29:17,21 | | 192:15 193:18 | 79:17 80:17,21 | 4:9 39:13,14<br>n | 37:16 38:10 40:15 | | 194:2,7,8 195:4,7 | 81:4,7,10,13,19 | 147:15,16 148:25 | 41:1,23 42:7,15,18 | | 195:15,22 198:22 | 85:6,7,24 86:5,6 | 171:25 216:3 | 42:19 43:7,9 44:6 | | 198:24 199:14 | 86:12,17,21,24 | habit<br>64:24 | 44:9,23 45:5 52:7 | | 201:10,23 202:7 | 87:7 90:19 92:3 | half 36:10,1484:5 | 52:12,20,24 53:3,8 | | 202:10 206:8,13 | 95:23 96:9 97:14 | hand 8:20 9:5.15 | 53:15,18 54:7,9,14 | | 206:22 207:14 | 98:15 99:4 100:15 | 57.1 167.72 | 54:17 55:4,7,8,13 | | 208:5,8 209:9 | 104:17 106:10,21 | handed 149:23 | 59:15 60:3 65:2,4 | | goldenspringny | 107:14,16,19,24 | handled<br>134:23 | 65:14,20 66:16 | | 214:2 | 109:23 110:10 | 214.8 | 67:3.7.17.18 71:8 | | good 7:5,23 8:1 | 113:7,10,23 | handling<br>78:19 | 71:9,21,24 73:4,6 | | 10:3,19 11:19 | 114:14 115:2,17 | handouts<br>118:10 | 76:17,19 83:10,12 | | 49:14 53:22 55:18 | 115:17,22 116:6 | hang<br>70:13 151:22 | 87:2,4 90:6,14 | | 56:20 88:11 | 116:18 117:7,7,13 | happen 127:20 | 93:194:22 95:21 | | 112:20 141:6 | 120:15 134:6,22 | 197:20 198:4,5,10 | 104:1,3 111:15,21 | | 197:25 | 134:25 135:1,8,18 | 198:17,17 | 111:23 112:1,6,11 | | | 136:3 137:13 | | 112:19 116:3,16 |

વેટ

| 120:5,6 121:9,11 | held<br>7:15 | 1:8 2:5 7:11 8:8<br>ho | 204:21 205:11 | |--------------------|---------------------|------------------------|-----------------------| | 122:12 123:1,6 | 11:15 31:12<br>help | 39:18 40:6 41:16 | 206:1,14 214:4 | | 125:1,6 126:2,10 | 36:20 37:18 40:15 | 41:24 42:1 45:18 | 216:1 | | 126:15 127:4 | 51:6 52:5 73:15 | 45:22 52:1,16,22 | hold<br>119:24 142:7 | | 128:7,13 129:6,12 | 81:24.24 82:3 | 53:5,7,9,13,21 | holding 212:6 | | 130:1,24 131:2,8 | 89:13,15,20 90:19 | 54:22 58:9,16 | 70:14<br>holdup | | 131:19 133:12,14 | 106:2 131:5,14 | 66:7 68:2,6,11,20 | holley 3:5 8:15 | | 140:10,11 143:16 | 146:5 147:1 | 70:16 72:3,9,17 | holley.l.claiborn | | 143:19 144:1.8.17 | 153:22 166:20 | 77:1,4 81:4,9,15 | 3:8 | | 145:25 146:3 | 169:11,12 188:12 | 81:16,21 82:1,10 | home 72:16 73:2 | | 147:4,6,11 148:9 | 192:15 195:3,8 | 82:19,23 83:7 | 204:15 | | 150:11,17 153:13 | 200:20 | 84:15 85:1,13,19 | honest 50:8,12,17 | | 153:16,25 154:1 | helped 43:18 | 85:23 86:8 87:19 | 61:22 132:10 | | 154:23 156:15,24 | 120:25 | 88:18 89:5.13 | honestly 26:13 | | 157:25 158:14,15 | helpful 37:24 | 90:16 91:2,14 | 191.15 | | 159:24 161:6,10 | 38:24 92:24 94:1 | 92:10 93:14 94:16 | hong 18:16,18,20 | | 165:9,13 166:1,12 | helpfully 90:23 | 95:7 97:22 98:4 | 18:21,25 21:5 | | 166:21,25 167:5 | helping 191:20 | 98:24 99:13 100:8 | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20 | | 170:4 171:2 | 192:12 | 100:12,24 101:4 | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12 | | 173:22 174:9,12 | 36:22<br>helps | 101:12 102:17 | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3 | | 186:8,18,19 188:2 | hereof<br>212:11 | 103:13 104:5,9,14 | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19 | | 188:15,16 190:6 | 125:13<br>hesitant | 104:21 105:5,15 | 27:10,15,1630:5 | | 190:10 192:1,2,22 | hesitate<br>150:12 | 105:24 106:6,15 | 31:23 32:1,3,4 | | 193:4 196:22 | 173:24 | 106:23,24 107:8 | 44:15,18 45:7,17 | | 197:1 200:22 | hey 107:8 194:7 | 108:22 110:25 | 45:22 | | 201:16 204:5,8 | 195:17 | 111:13 115:3,6 | hope 55:14 146:1 | | 205:19,21 207:1,5 | hi<br>141:12 | 118:6 119:10,20 | hopefully 44:7 | | 207:11,21,24 | 154:9<br>high | 119:22 121:3,23 | 107:6 205:22 | | 208:3,23 209:2,12 | hire<br>152:8,14 | 121:25 122:6,21 | hopelessly<br>165:19 | | 209:12,19,25 | 153:19 154:4,6,9 | 136:18 139:13,18 | hopes<br>118:25 | | hard 200:2,3 | 86:8,11,17<br>hired | 140:14,21 149:21 | hoping 195:3,7 | | hartford 2:23 3:12 | 87:8,12 91:17 | 151:7,14 172:19 | hotel 27:12 102:2 | | head 66:9 176:14 | 151:25 169:2,23 | 176:23 177:6,16 | 102:4,7,8 | | 187:22 | 170:13,22 | 177:19 178:8,15 | house 3:11 72:12 | | hear 10:23,23 11:1 | hiring 152:25 | 178:17 186:1 | 72:14 201:21 | | 13:5 92:6 | 154:25 | 187:7,10 189:1,16 | 202:2 | | heard 10:20 39:5,6 | history 170:6 | 189:20 191:6,9,16 | housekeeping | | 52:22 111:9 134:6 | hit<br>37.7 | 192:13 193.20 | 10:21 | | 139:4,7,9 162:25 | hmmm<br>15:1 | 195:11 196:2 | 87:9,11 155:1,9<br>hr | | 163:13 172:4,16 | 114:18 115:5 | 199:19 200:4,24 | 155:16,23 | | 178:6 193:8 | | 201:1,6,24 204:20 | | | | | | |

[huh - investment]

| huh 54:2 101:2 | 118:9,10 151:12 | instruction 45:8 | interpreter<br>3:17 | |------------------------|----------------------|----------------------|---------------------| | 137:19 155:16 | 153:5 157:5,6 | 58:21 68:10,24 | 3:18 8:24 9:4,6,9 | | hull 1:25 7:19 | 170:14 179:6 | 69:10 89:14,22 | 9:14 10:2,4,5,7,9 | | 212:5 213:4 | income 118:17,18 | 91:18 94:9 96:2,9 | 10:10,11 11:8 | | humble 48:14 | 118:20 119:2 | 96:16,19,24 98:16 | 31:12 40:20,21 | | 49:24 50:7,21 | 123:14,18,21 | 98:18 106:2 108:2 | 52:5,21,22 53:1,4 | | hundred 4:17 | 124:9 | 125:2 130:24 | 53:6,14,17 54:7,10 | | 105:22 120:17 | incorporation<br>5:5 | 133:6 | 54:11,25 55:6 | | 82-15<br>hundreds | 168:4.9 | integrity<br>127:1 | 59:18 81:1 131:12 | | hurt 129:19 | indicated<br>188:4 | 128:22 | 131:13,14,15,16 | | 174:23 | indicates<br>57.21 | intend 15:6 | 133:11 143:13,18 | | hurted<br>175:7 | individually 121:7 | intended<br>146:1 | 143:22,23 144:8 | | husband 201:25 | inference<br>94:14 | intending 158:23 | 144:12,13 146:5 | | i | influence 13:13 | 80:5<br>interact | 147:1,9,24,25 | | identification<br>19:8 | inform<br>23:18 | interacted 74:23 | 153:22 154:5 | | 28:18 43:6 55:11 | information 16:20 | 79:6,14,19 80:10 | 200:18 201:3,4,14 | | 128:10 166:24 | 36:19 51:4 60:1 | 80:17<br>interacting | interpreters 8:19 | | 209:18 | 61:23 62:4,10 | 80:21 | interprets 40:20 | | identifying 156:13 | 64:2 130:8 156:8 | interaction 80:3 | 52:20 29:18 | | identity 127:5 | 156:14 | interest<br>146:11 | 131:12 | | 128:9 150:10 | informed<br>87:11 | 186:22,24 187:3,7 | interrupt 30:15 | | 153:18 154:2 | informs<br>26:10 | 187:11,13 189:16 | 75:19 150:12 | | ii 2:11 | inhouse<br>16:13 | interested 47:18 | interrupting 76:18 | | immediate 85:6 | 155:25 | 128:10 145:6,8 | 152:12<br>interview | | immediately | inoperative<br>166:7 | 212:22 | 152:15 154:6,15 | | 152:18,25 186:10 | 168:16 169:4,17 | interesting 151:4 | 154:15 | | impair<br>13:14 | 169:19,25 171:14 | interests<br>21:25 | interviews 118:10 | | important 11:21 | 172:23 173:2,13 | 52:16 54:21 58:8 | invade<br>146:1 | | impression 75:12 | input 180:8 | 58:16 68:2,6,20 | 120:25<br>invest | | inauthentic 170:8 | inquire 116:7 | 87:19 88:18 90:16 | 175:25 | | include 24:4 85:18 | insisting 76:11 | 91:3,14 95:7 | invested<br>176:5 | | 89:15 111:3,6 | instruct 20:11 | interfere 13:15 | investing 118:2 | | 125:3 157:8,12 | 26:15 37:2,14 | internal<br>102:11 | investment 114:11 | | 164:5 | 38:3 42:9 66:5,6 | interpret 8:24 9:1 | 115:20 117:20,25 | | included 119:19 | 66:14 67:15 | 9:9,11 183:22 | 118:23 123:16,22 | | 214:14 215:3 | 116:14 126:23 | 201:15 | 123:23 124:6 | | includes 119:10 | instructed 6:1 | interpreted 9:2,12 | 174:15.24 175:3.9 | | including 48:9 | 95:24 141:21 | 143:22 144:12 | 175:22 176:3 | | 84:8,12 89:14 | instructing 42:16 | 147:9,25 154:5 | 179:24 181:3,4,21 | | 91:20 92:18,19,21 | 67:9 129:9 | 188:6 201:3 | 183:15,19 | | 95.75 99.4 115.19 | | | |

ರಿನ

| investments | 154:14 174:19 | 12:12 14:22<br>know | 154:8,12,14 | |------------------------|----------------------|---------------------|--------------------| | 118:25 | 196:12 214:5 | 21:13,16 22:25 | 155:11 159:9.15 | | 118:24<br>invests | 216:2 | 28:1 31:6 32:21 | 160:13 161:1,2 | | invoice<br>148:7,15 | johnston 3:17 8:23 | 33:3 38:11,15,16 | 162:19 163:1,4,15 | | 148:16 | 10:6 11:15 12:15 | 39:11 41:23 48:24 | 163:16,23 165:4 | | involved 99:12 | 52:11 54:3 55:5 | 49:14 50:3 54:10 | 170:12,18,18,21 | | 124:20 133:2,5,10 | 59:15 98:11 131:8 | 55:1 26:18 59:9 | 170:23 172:20,25 | | 134:20,24 135:15 | 133:12 143:17 | 59:10,12,13,17 | 173:4,10,10,12,14 | | 135:16 143:24 | 144:10 147:5 | 60:7,9,10,19 61:4 | 175:12 180:15 | | 144:14 152:7,24 | 153:25 200:23 | 61:7,21 63:7,14,20 | 185:18 187:15 | | 164:7 179:20 | jonathan 3:10 8:4 | 64:6 70:2 73:21 | 191:3 192:9 193:5 | | 180:20 183:12 | judge 127:13 | 74:11,22 75:9 | 193:11,12 194:6 | | 191:4,20 192:4,12 | 1 28:8 | 76:13 77:19,25 | 194:22,23 195:9 | | 196:4 | judgment 23:19 | 78:4,11,14,16,17 | 197:5,15,17 | | involves<br>197-3 | 127:11,12,14 | 78:18 80:13 82:14 | 198:21 199:3,22 | | involving 13:24 | jumping 154:13 | 84:20 86:19 95:10 | 199:24 200:1 | | 178:25 179:9 | 3:4<br>justice | 100:10,12,23 | 201:10 203:6 | | 184-3 | k | 102:1,20 103:12 | 204:1,14,23,25 | | issue 41:20 127:10 | K<br>38:14,14 39:13 | 103:22 105:3 | 205:2,7,8 207:6,7 | | 127:12,13,14 | 39:13,14,14 | 107:9 108:15,15 | 208:23 | | 132:20 142:22 | 148:25 | 108:17,18,24,25 | knowledge 46:15 | | 149:8,11 153:12 | 3:10 8:4,4<br>kaplan | 109:1 110:6,9,19 | 46:17 47:14,15,22 | | 156:10 164:21 | 19:18 | 110:22 111:11,13 | 49:8,10,13,20,25 | | 183:12 | 2.9<br>kaulet | 111:14 112:6,23 | 50:19,23 51:10,18 | | issues 124:20 | keep 57:13 130:9 | 113:3,25 114:6 | 60:2 62:9 64:3 | | 128:25 157:20 | 132:17 151:20 | 115:11,13 116:25 | 104:21 105:2 | | 108.7<br>item | kenneth 2:5 8:7 | 117:1,5,9 120:7 | 121:25 122:4,5,11 | | j | 211:22212:2<br>kern | 122:15 124:3.3.8 | 133:18,24 143:25 | | jail<br>84:6,11 86:2,3 | kidnap 47:11 | 125:17 128:15,19 | 150:1 160:22 | | jalbert 193:11,14 | kidnapped 48:11 | 130:7 131:23 | 172:18 188:21 | | 1:8 7:14<br>jam | 84:11 86:2 | 132:1,9,11 133:3,9 | 206:24 207:4,10 | | 7:17 112:7<br>jeff | kids<br>121:20 | 133:11,15 134:1,1 | 175:18<br>known | | jeffrey 3:16 | kind<br>49:9 73:23 | 134:14 135:5,6 | knows<br>53:10,12 | | jerking 57:13 | 96:5 122:23 138:8 | 136:12 141:16,17 | 136:6 173 · 24 | | jerry 170:17,18,24 | 146:15 151:15 | 141:24 142:1 | kong 18:16,18,20 | | 171:18 172:9,9 | 163:22 195:21 | 143:2,10,20 | 18:21,25 21:5 | | jkaplan 3:13 | 203:11 206:17 | 144:15 145:18 | 22:6,8 23:11,12,20 | | job<br>34:15 65:21 | 141:18<br>kinds | 146:10,13,24 | 23:22 24:3,7,8,12 | | 66:1 93:5 149:9 | 53:11 75:11<br>knew | 147:7,12,14,17,21 | 24:13,21,23 25:1,3 | | 149:17 151:11,13 | 136:5 | 150:19,21 151:20 | 25:3,3,6,7,16,19 | | 151:21 154:12,13 | | 152:17 153:1,2,14 | 27:10,15,1630:5 | | | | | |

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**[mary- mix]**

| mary<br>171:25 | 120:21,22,24 | 93: 13 94:3 95:9 | 75:25 76:25 | |------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|----------------------| | matter<br>37:4 72: 15 | 121:20 123:10,17 | 128:7,8 188: 19 | 108:24 110:9 | | 108:6 130:19 | 123:21124:5,7 | 201: 14 | million<br>142:23 | | 144:14 154:8,10 | 125: 12 127:8,9 | media<br>7:8 209: 10 | 143:2,11,21,24 | | 154:20 | 129: 16,21 132:5 | medication<br>12: 19 | 144:3 146:10 | | matters<br>10:21 | 135:4, 11 136:2 | 13:13 | 177:8 179:9,12,20 | | 150:8 154: 19 | 137: 18 138: 17 | meet<br>15: 19,21,22 | 179:21 180:21 | | 178:25 | 139:24 141:25 | 15:23 16:2,5,21 | 181:8 182:11,13 | | maybach<br>108: 13 | 142:5 144:21 | 18:5 80:8 139: 19 | 183: 12 184:3,9 | | 108: 18,23 109:7 | 146:21 148: 11 | 142: 18 | 186:4,13 187:17 | | 109:10,19,21 | 149:24 151: 14,17 | meeting<br>141: 15 | 187:21 188:24 | | 110:7,21 111: 12 | 152: 14 155:7,8 | member<br>84:8 | 206:1208:19 | | 111: 18 | 158: 1 161:25 | 119:22 120: 17 | millions<br>178:25 | | mean<br>14:7 15:22 | 164: 12,16,16,20 | 121: 17,23,24 | miltenberger<br>18:2 | | 15:22,23 17:24 | 164:22 174:23 | 122:22 205: 11 | mind<br>52:9 80:4 | | 21:2123:2125:11 | 177:12,13,19 | members<br>120:22 | 91: 1 107:24 | | 27: 11, 12, 12, 17, 18 | 179: 13,23 180: 15 | memory<br>13:14 | 194:23 | | 27:23 28: 1 30: 1 | 180:24 182:12,18 | 36:20,22 | mine<br>93:3 | | 30:19 31:25 33:21 | 183:17 184:21 | men's<br>101:8,11 | miniature<br>21: 17 | | 34:6 36:4,7,10,14 | 188: 1,3,9 189:4 | mention<br>198: 11 | 21: 18,21 | | 39:6 40:11,12,14 | 190: 13 191: 12 | mentioned<br>34:8 | minimal<br>208:20 | | 43:20 46:8,9,16 | 195: 14,17,20 | 3 8: 17 99: 8 110: 1 | minor<br>121:20 | | 48:8,16,2150:3,10 | 196:10,12,14 | 117:21 118:5 | minute<br>168:2 | | 50:21 53:6 56:4,9 | 199:3,5,21,21,24 | 134:9 162: 16 | minutes<br>17:9,9 | | 58:24 59: 10 60:8 | 200:20 201:20,25 | 171: 16 182:6,8 | 62:22 66:20 79:24 | | 60:23 62: 18, 19 | 202:24 203:2,6,15 | 184:5 190: 16 | 80:8 85:21 97:13 | | 70:6 71: 14 72: 10 | 204: 15 206:3,5, 11 | 208:4 | 135:16 172:15 | | 72: 11 73: 1 80:6,8 | 206:21208:11,11 | mentioning<br>185:6 | mischaracterize | | 81:23 82:8,11 | meaning<br>70:9 77:9 | mentions<br>66:6 | 161:7 | | 85:25 86: 18 88:22 | 82:23 85: 18 86:5 | merge<br>27:21 | mischaracterizes | | 89:12,17,23 92:1 | 86:20 89:20 93 :25 | message<br>195: 17 | 159: 19 161:5 | | 92:22 93: 16, 16 | 104:9 105:4 | met<br>17:19 35:10 | missing<br>164:21 | | 96: 1,4,5 97:5 98:6 | 121:10 125:1 | 35: 19 40: 13 74: 17 | mistaken<br>128:8 | | 98:16 100:4,15,17 | 186:21 | 77:8, 13 113 :2,5, 17 | misunderstanding | | 101:14 102:4,11 | means<br>58: 17,20 | 140: 15 145:8 | 200: 16 | | 102: 16 103 :20,22 | 59:13 78:15 88:13 | 146:4 | misunderstood | | 105:12 108:9,14 | 89:25 91:3,21 | methods<br>203: 11 | 30:16 39:24 | | 109:21111:25 | 93:9,18 120:9 | miles<br>85: 10 | 143:14 200:12 | | 114:16 116:13,19 | 134:2 135:5 142:3 | mileson<br>37:25 | mix<br>24:22 70: 11 | | 118: 18 119:7 | meant<br>49: 14 55: 1 | 38: 11,23 39:6,8, 18 | 80:2 | | 120:7, 13, 14, 15, 16 | 68:5 71: 10 87: 19 | 74:11 75:9,11,13 | | | | | | |

[mixed - new]

| mixed<br>99:25 | 22:6 23:11<br>moved | 151:17 163:1 | 30:4,4,11,18 31:2 | |---------------------|---------------------------------|-----------------------|--------------------| | 100:22 | 23:22 27:21 28:4 | 173:18 185:6 | 31:14,22,23 32:1,2 | | 100:22<br>mom | 29:22 | 194:7,8,9 195:17 | 32:3,11,13,15 | | moment 12:10 | multiple<br>20:9 | 196:4,12 197:11 | 33:13,19 34:1,4,7 | | 15:24 17:19 19:9 | 2:15<br>murray | 199:7 203:6 | 34:13,17,25 35:21 | | 37:17 44:5 60:17 | 167:10<br>muted | 204:18 206:3 | 36:2,24 37:21 | | 69:1,3 87:14 99:8 | 174:11 | needed 69:21 70:2 | 38:1,2 40:9,10,11 | | 104:20 117:18 | myers 2:11 7:24 | 78:21 79:21 80:9 | 40:14,17,18,23,24 | | 119:17 120:11 | 8:12 209:13 | 89:21.25 139:19 | 41:2,4,7,16,18 | | 121:12 140:12 | 194:24<br>mystery | 139:21,23,24 | 42:2,6,21 43:25 | | 151:22 156:25 | n | 140:7 196:7 | 44:21,25 46:1,6,14 | | 171:3,12 179:14 | 4:1 17:5 30:8 | 201:21 | 47:21 49:5,19 | | 190:16 193:22 | n<br>38:14,22,23 39:9 | 89.16 92.11<br>needs | 51:24 52:14 54:20 | | money 114:17,22 | 39:12.13.14 86:14 | 92:18 97:22 98:5 | 57:8 58:7 59:21 | | 115:7,11 118:2,24 | 112:24 171:25 | 98:24 99:9 195:12 | 65.22 68.1 69.8 | | 118:25 122:1,7,20 | name 7:17 10:20 | 195:13 196:6 | 69:10.15 71:13.13 | | 127:17 128:11,14 | | 202:20 206:20 | 72:1,1,4,8 73:22 | | 128:16,19,20 | 17:5,18,23,25 18:4 | neglected<br>87:22 | 81:3,6 90:18 | | 159:9,16 160:2,6 | 38:12,20,22,23,24 | negotiated<br>187:3.6 | 91:16,17,19,24 | | 160:14 161:23 | 52:10 53:4,12,13 | negotiating<br>191:4 | 92:9,17 93:6 95:4 | | 163:3,7,11 175:24 | 53:19,24 54:12,13 | 133:2<br>negotiation | 97:2 98:3,23 | | 176:4 178:11 | 64:3 76:7.9.14<br>134:11 147:15 | 133:5 | 99:11 103:10 | | 180:13 208:5 | | neither 54:15 | 104:6,10,13,15,22 | | 159:1,5<br>moneys | 150:19 170:16<br>171:18 175:20 | 212:20 | 104:24 109:11,13 | | month 96:14,15 | | 84:9<br>nephew | 109:18 110:7,15 | | 109:6 138:17 | 193:12,17 211:11<br>named | netherland 72:21 | 110:17,20,25 | | monthly<br>192:8,13 | 93:17<br>148:24 212:8 | 29:13 30:24<br>never | 111:11,17 113:2 | | months<br>19:473:21 | | 31:8.8.9 39:5.6 | 113:20,21 114:12 | | 73:25 77:20,21,24 | native 58:20 59:21 | 74:23 79:6 81:17 | 114:23 115:8,12 | | 78-23 148-23 | 64:1 79:19 93:17<br>148:2 | 82:16 86:1,8 | 115:15 117:6,10 | | 149:3,7 173:7,17 | | 104:21,24 173:4 | 118:3,8,14 119:5 | | morning 7:5,23 | natural 96:5,7 | 178:11 180:11 | 119:18 120:12 | | 8:1 10:3,19 | necessarily 116:13 | 198:22 204:7 | 121:4,16 122:2,8 | | 181:11 185:1,1 | necessary 211:9<br>214:14 215:3 | 1:19.19 2:7.7<br>new | 122:14 123:14 | | mother 11:6 29:25 | need 11:8 32:4 | 2:17,17,22 4:20 | 124:11 125:7 | | 39:22 50:2 | | 5:4,12 7:1,1,10 | 126:22 127:7,18 | | move 25:9,11 | 46:25 52:5 63:22 | 8:3 10:12 14:23 | 128:12 129:14 | | 27:24 28:1,2 29:9 | 66:17 70:2 98:11 | 15:4 17:4 18:9,11 | 130:12 131:4,10 | | 30:131:14 65:12 | 99:17 101:7,15 | 18:15,17 23:24 | 132:19,21,22,23 | | 65:16 67:13 117:7 | 106:9,20 107:18 | 24:2, 15, 18 27:6 | 133:16 134:19 | | 129:10 | 112:3 126:13 | 28:9 29:10,23 | 135:2,9 137:10 | | | 136:8,10 143:17 | | |

offer

81:24 92:2

111:16 120:9

offered 36:19

154:22

52:2,18 54:23

103:23 116:1

124:19 125:4

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156:11 159:18

161:4 165:5.17

166:9 170:2

203:25

objections

13:1 158:8

191:23 193:1

12:21

105:24

136:24

170:24 171:19

194:15 198:8

occasion 140:20

131:20 179:15

october 4:14 13:23

73:16 75:10 77:14

78:11 79:13 96:17

14:10,25 36:9

171:9 173:8

141:3 179:3

199:7.22

180:18

occasions

occurred

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65:11 71:16 90:2

92:13 94:17 95:18

121:5 122:9 123:4

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4:24

7:13 10:6

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182:3 186:7

187:19 198:5

203:19,21 209:10

o'clock 67:2 112:8

7:24 8:12 209:13

object 20:10 26:22

125:24 126:23

128.21 150.7

157:19 192:24

26:1,20 38:3

41:19 44:19 45:3

16:11

209:21

objection

65:3 120:1 122:17

50:10 60:15

o'melveny 2:11

61:14 64:25

174:1

oath

noting

november

number

| 209:17 212:7 | |-----------------| | 214:15 215:4 | | numbered 21:19 | | numbers 22:3,20 | | 22:22 32:24,25 | | |

| 22:22 32:24,25 | obvious 101:6 | |-------------------|------------------| | numerous 121:13 | 140:3 175:20 | | 204:2,4 | 193:15 | | nw 2:12 3:6 | obviously 54:15 | | 0 | 65:15 86:1 93:20 | | 0 17:5 30:9 38:14 | 95:23 100:18 | | 38:14,23,23,24 | 101:11 102:7 | | 39:9,12,13,13,14 | 106:9,20 107:18 | | 39:14 112:24 | 109:2117:15 | | 116:22 147:16 | 127:21 129:16 | | 148:25 | 137:6 140:2 | | | 141:14 154:8 |

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[page - please]

| 33:7 35:4 46:23 | 42:12<br>parties | 146:17 187:1 | 207:3,9 | |---------------------|----------------------|----------------------|----------------------| | 47:3,4,7 55:22 | party 47:11 84:7 | perfect<br>11:10 | personally 41:2,6 | | 56:16,21,22 57:1,4 | 212:21 | perform<br>149:9 | 90:5 155:5,17,21 | | 57:12,14,15,25 | 36:11<br>pass | performed 26:19 | 191:4,20 | | 63:2 73:15 74:3,8 | passed<br>49:2 | 26:19,23 95:12 | personnel 15:19 | | 83:18 84:1 88:8 | patience 166:25 | period 24:6 25:2 | 16:22 193:18 | | 88:13 167:11.22 | 205:22 209:3 | 25:25 58:12 | pertains 20:5 | | 170:17 212:11 | pax 13:24 14:4,10 | 134:23 156:3 | phone 70:10 80:2 | | 214:15 215:4 | 125:13 127:3 | 203:10 214:18 | physical 26:22 | | 216:4,7,10,13,16 | 128:24 129:15,16 | 215:7 | 157:20 | | 216:19 | 129: 18, 19 | perjury 211:12 | physically 25:6 | | 4:15,18,22<br>pages | 68:11 81:17<br>pay | 214:17 215:6 | 27:9,11,18 196:20 | | 4:25 5:8,16 20:20 | 81:17 95:24 111:8 | permanent 27:25 | picked<br>35:24 | | 21:17,18,21,25 | 120:23 145:19 | permanently | 152:15<br>picky | | 22:21,22 23:3 | 146:16,17,23 | 27:21,23 | piece<br>60:14 | | 74:5 88:8 214:14 | 148:12 177:8 | permission<br>106:16 | 1:17 4:13,23<br>ping | | 214:17,17 215:3,6 | 194:2,7,8 206:4.6 | 107:10,25 142:16 | 9:18 56:17 211:4 | | 215:6 | 206:14,15,22 | persecuted 48:10 | 212:8 214:1,5 | | paid 97:23 98:5 | paying 97:3,16 | 11:22<br>person | 216:2 | | 109:11 120:10 | 99:12 109:17 | 15:22 16:2 39:1,7 | place<br>161:20 | | 121:1 122:1 | 208:11,12 | 59:22 60:15 61:13 | 212:11 | | 123:23 147:22 | payment 99:18 | 70:10,22,24 74:18 | places 27:19 | | 151:14 186:23 | pays<br>81:17 109:13 | 77:10,14 79:17 | plainly<br>66:4.4 | | 202:5,7 | 109:13 110:25 | 80:2,14 84:24 | 170:9 | | pair<br>196:8 | 195:1,5 | 86:11 87:8 110:3 | plan 117:16,19 | | pangu 86:14,14,16 | 20:19<br>pd | 113:11 119:12 | 118:22 119:14 | | 86:24 | pdf 20:19 28:23 | 139:7 147:17 | 124.5 183.18 | | paperwork 60:12 | 172:8 214:12 | 150:23 151:1 | 119:3<br>planned | | 60:14 61:22,23 | 215:1 | 152:8,17,23,25 | planning<br>115:18 | | 164:21 170:21 | pearl<br>2:22 | 153:20 154:4 | plans<br>26:14 27:4 | | paragraph<br>168:2 | penalty 211:12 | 155:18,21 157:12 | playing 153:14 | | 168:11 | 214:16 215:5 | 160:21 192:23 | please 7:21 8:18 | | parents<br>100:16 | pending 126:20 | 206:11 | 8:21 9:6,15 10:1,8 | | part 36:19 80:13 | 130:16 | person's 38:20 | 11:14 12:2,11 | | 93:7 101:22 | people 34:12 | 155:6 193:17 | 13:6 20:4,25 26:2 | | 102:11 119:2 | 85:17 120:18 | personal 65:15 | 28:23 32:25 38:12 | | 121:3,8 124:22 | 121:14,18 152:12 | 90:9 92:11 133:18 | 39:17 40:19 41:21 | | 160:19,19 206:12 | 152:14 154:7,18 | 133:23 143:25 | 44:5.20 54:5.8 | | particular 63:13 | 157:15,17 202:24 | 149:8,11 150:9 | 55:19 56:21 57:14 | | 111:18 165:7 | percent 18:18 | 156:13 191:24 | 59:15 66:19 67:15 | | 180:3 | 65:22 146:11,16 | 197:3 206:24 | 70:13 83:13,18 | | | | | |

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| 87:24 88:7 97:25 | prefer 12:13 39:21 | pretty 45:15 66:11 | 50:19,22 51:10,18 | |-----------------------|-----------------------|---------------------|---------------------| | 98:12 99:15 | 53:19 | 101:6 152:14 | 146:17 154:19 | | 103:24 119:24 | preference 12:22 | 203:19 | profile 201:12 | | 120:4 125:4 140:8 | 162:12 163:1<br>prep | prevailed 179:4 | profit 118:15,19 | | 143:18 144:9,10 | preparation 16:3 | 183:11 184:4 | 118:23 119:14 | | 151:22 152:20 | prepare 15:11,12 | previous<br>153:5 | 129:13,21,22 | | 163:17 167:11 | 15:20 16:10,23 | 154:7,12,20,25 | 14:19,19<br>profits | | 187:23 193:16 | 17:2,11,15,20 18:6 | 156:20 | 118:9,21<br>project | | 200-14-205-20 | 192:12 | previously<br>156:9 | 174:25 175:3,9,9 | | 207:15,25 | prepared<br>15:14 | prior 20:8 24:20 | 179:25 181:4 | | plus 154:11 | 44:3 61:5 62:24 | 44:25 153:17,18 | 182:6,12 183:15 | | podhaskie<br>148:24 | preparing 15:25 | 155:6 | 184:5 | | 149:2,17,20 150:1 | 144:24<br>prepped | private 164:17 | projects<br>118:4,7 | | point 24:14 26:16 | 145:20 | privilege<br>146:1 | 118:23,23 174:21 | | 32-6 37-1 44-20 | present 3:19 42:12 | privileged<br>16:20 | 181:3,8 | | 87:22 124:23 | 158:10 171:17 | probably 148:7 | 196:22<br>promise | | 129:4 180:19 | 186:2 | 192:17 195:23 | promptly 207:15 | | 183:11 189:14 | presents<br>158:4 | problem<br>12:14 | pronounce 17:23 | | 208:24 | president 42:22,25 | 32:2,7 40:1 54:9 | 17:24 39:23 54:12 | | 131:21<br>pointed | 45:24 46:12 47:20 | 62:21 112:5 126:2 | proper 125:20 | | populated 43:7 | 49:4 51:24 52:14 | 153:24 166:15 | 165:24 | | portion<br>186:13 | 54:19 58:6 65:21 | 173:5,6 | properly<br>164:11 | | position<br>131:18 | 67:25 68:16,18,23 | procedure 5:14 | 164:12 | | 152:13 156:17 | 90:17 91:15,23 | 214:19,20 | 183:15<br>property | | 158:2,3 | 92:9,1693:5 95:6 | proceed 10:15 | prospective | | 46:3<br>positions | 97:19 98:2,22 | 11:11 20:3,13 | 122:23 174:25 | | 50-24 | 99:11 104:12 | 21:4 174:14 | 175:2 | | possession 131:4 | 105:7 110:18 | proceeding 11:4 | protonmail.com | | 131:10 132:15,19 | 134:18 136:4 | 14:17 156:20 | 214:2 | | possibility 102:19 | 137:9 141:24 | 196:6 | proud<br>50:8 | | possible 36:13 | 142:5,9 148:24 | proceedings 9:1 | provide 13:19 | | 37:24 41:15 96:22 | 151:10 152:11 | 9:11 | 134:21 135:2,9 | | 139:16 191:12 | 155:8 159:12 | proceeds 129:2 | provided 114:17 | | 194:5 204:13 | 164:6 165:11,15 | process 99:17 | 136:17 156:9 | | potential 179:24 | 166:3 174:17,18 | 101:22 106:13 | 214:19 215:8 | | 165:15<br>power | 175:5 178:3,22 | 154:25 | provider 154:3 | | powers<br>165:10 | 180:5 181:16 | produce<br>186:10 | provides<br>60:15 | | precise<br>14:27 70:6 | 195:6,20 | 207:15 | 61:14 | | 104:4 158:25 | pressing 30:25 | professional 46:14 | 99:12<br>providing | | 186:7 | 101:25<br>pretend | 46:16 47:14,15,22 | 169:11 | | | 197.22 | 49:8,9,13,20,25 | |

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| 64:14 66:1 68:4 | recall 13:25 14:15 | 66:24<br>recess | reframe<br>80:19 | |---------------------|--------------------|----------------------|----------------------| | 75:1 84:3,17,19 | 14:16 19:2 25:22 | 112:15 126:1,6 | 21:335:25<br>refresh | | 93:4 144:18 145:9 | 25:23 32:18 33:25 | 174:5 | 36:20,22 169:1 | | 146:8 157:23 | 34:23,24 35:1 | recited 95:3 96:10 | 169:14<br>refreshes | | 168:24 170:14 | 40:23 41:5,10,12 | recognize 43:16 | refused<br>106:5 | | 171:17 203:4,7,14 | 44:3,4,16 45:12,13 | recognized 43:22 | 178:17,20,22 | | 203:15 205:14,17 | 45:16,23 59:2,4,6 | 14:2<br>recollect | regard 74:24 | | 211:5 | 59:8 60:22,22 | recollection 21:3 | 79:14 80:10 | | reading 13:4,9 | 61:2,9 64:19,20,22 | 35:25 64:17 151:5 | regarding 30:6 | | 31:14 36:22 37:18 | 65:5,7,8 67:8 68:5 | 151:6 169:2,14 | 51:4 180:25 | | 39:17 85:2,4 | 69:20,23,24 70:1 | 187:18 | regards 79:7 | | 146:15 214:23 | 70:18 71:1,6 73:9 | reconvening<br>112:7 | 141:4 | | 215-9 | 80:24 82:7,9,11,12 | record 7:6,22 | regiment 195:24 | | reads 22:5 33:10 | 82:17,18,21 83:2,8 | 29:18,19 66:11,22 | register<br>4:19 | | real 47:15 51:9.13 | 87:10,11,17 90:13 | 67:1 112:13,17 | 43:24 56:10 | | 51:17 86:5 114:10 | 96:3,13,18,21,23 | 116:10 126:4,8,11 | regular 151:15,16 | | 115:20 117:21,24 | 97:1,5,5,9,11,16 | 126:14 157:23 | 201-8 | | 117:24 118:9,11 | 97:17 100:9 103:8 | 158:6 165:18 | regularly 150:25 | | 166:20 180:4 | 104:7.8.11.18 | 166:10 170:25,25 | reject 106:10,11 | | 181:4 182:6 | 105:12,16,19,23 | 174:3,7 192:23 | 194:17,19 | | 183:15,19 184:4 | 106:9,25 110:23 | 200:22 209:5 | rejection 178:23 | | 194:24 | 115:5,10 117:8 | recorded 7:8 86:1 | related 39:8,10 | | really 26:6 65:12 | 127:25 134:11,12 | 189:8 190:12,13 | 80:22 114:10 | | 80:14 97:1 103:12 | 134:13 139:15,17 | 190:18,21 | 118:11 130:7 | | 121:10 142:1 | 140:19,20 141:2 | recorder<br>85:3 | 146:18 194:3 | | 195:1 197:19 | 145:23,24 147:10 | 23:25<br>records | 212:21 | | 200:2,2 | 147:12,13 149:18 | 189.11 207.16 | relates<br>26:3 | | realtor<br>51:13,14 | 149:19,23,24 | recruitment | relationship 18:16 | | 13:18,20<br>reason | 166:11,13,16 | 152:11 | 42:2 45:1 129:20 | | 24:25 39:22 50:17 | 169:10 171:11,21 | refer | 175.7 | | 53:9 75:14 76:11 | 171:23,24 172:1 | 30:7 38:21 39:17 | relatively<br>36:8 | | 84:12 87:21 97:15 | 178:10 186:3,6 | 52:10 53:20 84:25 | relatives<br>85-16 | | 119:21 125:12 | 187:9,12 191:11 | reference 44:25 | released 214:21 | | 153:7 154:21 | 191:13,19 193:10 | 155:2,18 | relevance 38:5 | | 172:22 173:12,14 | 194:5,12 206:10 | referenced 214:6 | 41:22 42:6,11 | | 175:20 181:15 | recap 188:23 | referred 24:25 | 116:2 | | 195:12 216:6,9,12 | 99:22<br>receipts | 207:17 | relevancy 129:5 | | 216:15,18,21 | receive 100:1,8 | referring 22:4 | relevant 65.18 | | reasons 71:17 | 148:6,15,16 | 38:16 39:1 85:5 | 66:4.4 | | 125:17 172:25 | 100:5<br>received | 90:3,4 | relitigate<br>38:7 | | 173:1 | | | | | | | | |

**[rely- right]**

| rely<br>54:15 | replaced<br>148:23 | requested<br>46:5,10 | revert<br>24:4,5 | |------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------|-----------------------| | remain<br>165:9 | 149:6 | 90: 19 92:3 100: 15 | review<br>15:6,10, 16 | | remained<br>174: 11 | replied<br>32: 12 | 104: 17 134:8 | 15:18 99:16 | | remember<br>14: 1 | 33:20 183:14 | 173 :21 177: 11, 12 | 100: 11 101:21,24 | | 18:3 28: 12 30:20 | 185:20 188:20 | 177:14,17 178:5 | 195: 10 196: 10 | | 35:9 36:7,11,15 | reply<br>123:18169:6 | 192: 14 201:23 | 199: 1 200:6, 10 | | 37:19 61:18 63:15 | 195: 19 | 212:19 215:1,9,10 | 201:5 212: 19 | | 63 :20 79:25 85 :25 | report<br>101: 15 | requesting<br>92: 18 | 214:8,10,13 215:2 | | 98: 17 105: 14 | 106: 10 107: 16 | 119: 13 190:7 | revival<br>5:6 166:13 | | 109:20 138: 17,22 | 151:19 168:18 | requests<br>131:3 | 166: 14 167: 16 | | 155: 1 166:20 | 172:24 194: 16 | 194: 1, 11, 12 | 168: 19 173 :8 | | 169:9 171: 10 | reported<br>1:25 | require<br>107:23 | rewinding<br>87: 13 | | 176: 15,19 186:25 | reporter<br>7: 19 8: 18 | reserve<br>20: 10 | rhythm<br>151 :20 | | 187:1,2,15 191:15 | 8:20 9:5,15,25 | 158:7 | right<br>8:20 9:5,15 | | 192:17,18 196:13 | 10:7, 13 11 :22 | reserved<br>13: 1 | 18: 13 20: 10 21: 14 | | remind<br>162:3 | 76: 18 210:2,5 | reside<br>71:13,15 | 21:15 22:1623:1 | | 166: 17 | 212:6 | 72:2,5,8 73: 1 | 23:6 24: 16 30:3 | | reminded<br>36: 13 | reports<br>192:9, 13 | resided<br>72:24 | 31: 13 33 :24 36: 13 | | 159: 14 | represent<br>7:25 | residence<br>71: 18 | 36: 15, 18 39: 15 | | reminding<br>67:22 | 14:9 172:11,19 | 206:9,25 | 40:6,7 42:24 | | reminds<br>71: 10 | representation | resolved<br>149: 11 | 48:15,17 51:4,14 | | remote<br>1: 14 | 25:4 | respect<br>129:3 | 53:2,23,25 54:1 | | remotely<br>11:21 | representative | 156: 14,20 182:24 | 56: 1,4, 18 57: 1, 15 | | 146:1 | 1:16 9:19 15:3 | 182:24 190: 11 | 59:23 60:25 61:7 | | render<br>211:9 | 44:24 90:9 | 201:6 | 61: 15,24 62:20 | | rent<br>161:20 | represented | respected<br>165: 16 | 64:5 65: 18 66:7 | | 206:21 | 156: 18 172:7 | response<br>47:5 | 69:4, 15 73 :20 | | rented<br>111: 12 | representing<br>8:3,5 | rest<br>151: 13 | 75:20 76:3,7,12 | | reopen<br>158:24 | 8:8,10,12 | restroom<br>66: 18 | 79: 12,23 82: 13 | | repaid<br>158: 18,21 | represents<br>26:8 | result<br>181:23 | 88:2 89:5, 16 91:6 | | 163:15 184:11 | 172:9 | 212:22 | 91:25 92:11,20 | | repay<br>206:1 | request<br>45:11 | retained<br>138:25 | 94:4,6, 10,21 98:8 | | repeat<br>16: 16 49:23 | 58:23 99:5 106:5 | 147: 18 209: 11 | 98:19 101:6,15 | | 52: 18 54:3,8 | 111 :22 131:9 | return<br>25:25 | 102:4,17 103:10 | | 92: 15 97:25 131 :8 | 132: 18,23 133 :3 | 214: 17 215:6 | 106:19 108:1,20 | | 143: 17 147:4 | 133: 15,20 134:4 | returned<br>149: 12 | 110:8 111: 1,23 | | 152:20 | 134: 14 156:21 | returning<br>123: 13 | 116:24 117:9 | | repeated<br>156: 19 | 186:9,9, 16 192: 16 | returns<br>123: 15 | 119: 16 121 :21 | | rephrase<br>12: 12 | 195:22 207:12,12 | revenue<br>118:20 | 124:6 125: 15 | | 191:25 | 207:14 | 123:23 124:7,7 | 127: 11,22 128:2 | | | | | 129: 16 130: 13 |

વેટ

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| [see<br>l | sort] | |-----------|-------| |-----------|-------|

| 167:15 168:6 | seven 5:15 35:8 | 185:23,24 186:2 | 185:3,7 195:23 | |----------------------|--------------------|----------------------|-----------------------| | 196:13 197:7 | 46:23 47:8 | 188:10.11 189:15 | 199:25 200:13 | | 198:3,6,7 204:16 | seventh 85:11 | 189:16 | 208:17 | | 205:6 | shea<br>2:21 8:2 | signing 12:21 13:4 | sister 84:10 | | seeing<br>169:13 | 72:21<br>sherry | 13:8 64:12,24 | 19:10<br>sit | | seen 41:6 145:23 | 196:8,14<br>shoes | 171:10 | 47:1,3,4 73:21<br>six | | 184:15 | 198:19 201:7 | silverberg 2:5 8:9 | 73:25 77:20,24 | | 197:21 201:2<br>sees | shop 196:21 197:6 | 8:9 | 78:22 88:8,14 | | send 141:4 154:22 | 199:7 201:9,9 | similarly 50:10 | 173:7,17 | | 195:16 201:10 | shopping 199:6,24 | simple 49:16 | sixty<br>74:3.8 | | 202:10<br>sends | 203:16 | 155:11 | size<br>130:11 | | 32:5 70:7<br>sense | shops 196:19,20 | simply 26:16 | skill<br>154:18 | | 120:13 202:2 | 197:6,7 199:4,22 | single<br>63:18 | s ow<br>19:13 | | sensitive<br>128:25 | 201:8 | 105:14 | small<br>22:22 88:8 | | 130-8 | short 66:24 125:25 | sir 12:7,17 13:20 | 195:21 196:4 | | sensitivity 156:10 | 126:6 134:23 | 14:7 16:15 20:19 | social<br>141:5 | | 21:24<br>sent | 136:4 138:4,8 | 21:14 22:12 25:11 | solicit<br>137:16 | | sentence 51:758:4 | 173:21 174:5 | 27:13,23 32:5,12 | solutions 7:18,20 | | 58:13 61:16 62:23 | shorthand 212:5 | 33:20 36:3 37:24 | 209:11 214:7 | | 84:17 | 19:5 21:7<br>show | 38:12,16,24 39:15 | somebody 113:25 | | sentences 47:17 | 26:2 28:13 43:3 | 39:20 40:7,11 | 155:22 | | separate<br>202:3 | 47:6<br>shown | 43:11,20 45:20 | 39:13,18 40:6<br>son | | september 22:7 | shulman 170:17 | 46:17 47:25 49:11 | 74:15 76:22 77:1 | | seriously 174:23 | 170:24 171:18,22 | 50:4 51:4 52:6 | 77:5 84:8 85:11 | | serve 51:25 52:15 | 171:24 172:9,11 | 56:3,5 61:8 62:12 | 96:4 106:16,23 | | 54:21 58:8 69:11 | 172:18 | 63:16 64:8,22 | 177:22 180:11 | | 88:16 119:8 | 124:21<br>shut | 67:21 69:3,16 | 199:20 | | served<br>68:1,19,24 | 61:18 103:6<br>sic | 71:3 72:10,22 | son's<br>89:21 107:10 | | તે છે. રેણે વિ | side<br>183:8 | 76:4 78:5,6 80:19 | sorry 15:21 16:15 | | service 93:18 | sign 92:21 185:21 | 82:11 83:22 84:22 | 19:12 22:25 23:8 | | 95:12 120:24 | 214:16 215:5 | 88:2 91:6 92:1,24 | 44:6 45:19 46:20 | | 124:8 | signature 56:1,25 | 93:12 97:24 100:2 | 52:10,11 56:3 | | services<br>120:9 | 57:21 167:19 | 102:15 103:21 | 57:13 70:13 91:5 | | 148:12 | 213:3 214:21,23 | 104:7 108:8,24,24 | 97:24 98:6 104:2 | | serving 91:13 95:9 | 214:23 215:9 | 111:24 123:10 | 121:9 144:22 | | 113:21,22<br>set | signed 57:7559:1 | 124:13 138:19 | 145:2 147:23 | | 114:4,5,7 117:15 | 61:17,25 62:1,3,6 | 151:9 153:21 | 152:22 153:23 | | 170:15 195:17 | 62:8,17,18,19 63:9 | 156:3 164:12 | 167:2,10 171:5 | | 212:11 | 63:13,24 64:1,3,9 | 166:17 167:3 | 184:22 200:17 | | setting 128:4,6 | 64:20 66:9 67:6 | 169:5,21 170:12 | sort 114:9 141:12 | | | 67:23 91:12 171:8 | 179:13 183:14 | 202:19 | | | | | |

**[sorts** - **started]**

| sorts<br>89:25 | 18: 15, 16, 17, 18,20 | 109:4, 11, 13, 18,21 | 187:4 188:25 | |--------------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|-------------------------| | sound<br>18:13 33:24 | 18:21,24 21 :5 | 109:22,25 110:7 | 190: 14,18 191: 10 | | 149:4 209: 1 | 22:8 23: 11,20,24 | 110: 14, 17,20,25 | 192:3, 11, 15 | | sounds<br>11:10 18:4 | 23 :25 24:2,3, 12, 13 | 111:11,17 113:21 | 193: 18 194:2, 7,8 | | 33:17 204:19 | 24: 14, 18,21,23 | 114:12,15,23 | 195:4,7, 15,22 | | source<br>115:7 | 25:6,16,18 27:6,10 | 115:8,12,14,16 | 198:22,24 199: 14 | | 118:17,18,20 | 27: 15 28:9 30:8 | 116:5,8 117:6, 10 | 201: 10,23 202:7 | | 119:2 123:14,17 | 32:10,13,15,19 | 118:7,14 119:4,13 | 202: 10 206:8, 13 | | 123:20 124:9 | 33: 12, 18,20,25 | 119:13,18,23 | 206:22 207: 14 | | 159: 1,5 160:24 | 34: 1,3,4, 7,9,9, 13 | 120: 12,20,23,24 | 208:5,8 209:9 | | 162:10,23 | 34: 16,22,25 35: 14 | 121:1,4,15 122:1,7 | spring's<br>102:22 | | speak<br>13 :6 54: 11 | 35:20 36:2,24 | 122:13,20,21 | 121: 19 124:21 | | 54:15 70:10 | 37:21 38: 1,18 | 123:8,13 124:11 | 125: 14,22 126:25 | | 126: 16 139: 18 | 40:9,18,22 41:4,17 | 125:7 126:21 | 128:23 129: 17 | | 140:5 151:5,7 | 42:2,5,21 43:25 | 127:7,8,9, 17 | 190:23 | | 155:5 | 44: 15, 17,21,25 | 128:12,19,20 | square<br>2:6,7, 16,17 | | speaker<br>58:20 | 45:7, 17,21,25 46:6 | 129: 14 130: 11, 15 | 3:11 | | 59:22 | 46: 13 47: 10,21 | 131:3,9 132:18,21 | squarely<br>65:20 | | speaking<br>11 :23 | 49:5, 19 50:24 | 132:22,23 133 :7 | srosen<br>2:24 | | 12:4 15: 13 158:22 | 51:24 52: 14 54 :20 | 133:16 134:19 | 211:1212:1<br>ss | | speaks<br>170:3 | 58:6,21,22,23 | 135:2,9 136:1,17 | ssarnoff 2: 19 | | specific<br>26: 18 27: 1 | 59:21 65:21 67:25 | 137:7,10 140:25 | stamp<br>167:23 | | 107:23 126:24 | 68: 10, 11, 16,23 | 141:24 148:6,12 | stand<br>11:8 45:3 | | 175:20 195: 19 | 69:2,8,9,13,14,18 | 148:15,18 150:2,6 | 132:3 | | specifically<br>113:9 | 70:16 71:4,12 | 150:20 151: 11,25 | stands<br>132: 1,9, 11 | | 129: 19 188: 1 | 72: 1,8 73 :22,24 | 152:19,24 153:1 | 132:15 | | specify<br>140:8 | 74:21,24 77: 18,21 | 153:10 156:1,6,18 | start<br>12:3,20 23 :25 | | speculate<br>97: 11 | 77:25 78:12,19 | 157:3,22 158: 16 | 29:10,23 30:10,17 | | 127:21 | 79:7, 15, 18 80:5, 11 | 158: 17,20 159: 13 | 30:19 31:1,14,17 | | spell<br>17:5 38: 12 | 80: 12, 13, 18,22 | 160:21,24 163:21 | 32: 10 71:4 78:6 | | spelled<br>39:9 | 81:3,6 86:22 90:4 | 164:10,14 165:16 | 118:22 173: 18 | | spend<br>17:6 173:18 | 90:9, 18 91: 16, 17 | 165:22 166:4,5,14 | 174:20 | | spoke<br>135: 18,21 | 91:18,24 92:9,16 | 168:9 169:3,3, 15 | started<br>10:22 | | spoken<br>115:3,6 | 93:6 95:4,24 97:2 | 169: 16,23,25 | 24:11,17 28:8 | | 139: 13 140: 14 | 97:20 98:3,23 | 170: 14,20 171: 14 | 30:13 31:18,19,19 | | 180: 12 191: 16 | 99:11100:16 | 172:10 173:1,4 | 31:20 32:13 33:18 | | 209:20 | 102:7,23,25 103:4 | 174:16 175:3,13 | 34:4 36:2,24 | | spring<br>2:21 4:20 | 103 :7,9 104:6, 10 | 176:23 177:7,14 | 37:22 38: 1 40:9 | | 5:3,11 7: 10 8:3 | 104: 13,14,17,22 | 177: 18 178: 1,3 | 40:18,22 41:3,17 | | 15:3,20 16:9,22 | 104:24 105:8 | 180:5 184: 10 | 42:5,20 69:8,9, 14 | | 17:2,4,10 18:9, 11 | 107: 15,18 108:3 | 185:3 186:9,14 | 71: 12,25 72:7 | | | | | |

[ **started** - **talking]**

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95

ರಿನ

[talking - time]

| 91:1,3,792:5 | 86:4,6 131:14 | 185:10 188:14 | 107:1<br>thoughts | |--------------------|---------------------|--------------------|--------------------| | 100:2 125:15 | 146:19 | 190:9 201 : 17 | threatened 84:11 | | 136:19 177:3 | terms 144:5,11,16 | 205:22 209:3 | 86:2 | | 180:1,2 181:4 | 186:20 189:17 | thanks 163:19 | three 4:22,24 | | 182:9 205:3.4 | 191:1 | 166:25 | 21:14 29:20 30:2 | | 207:19 | terrible 85:16 | thereof 212:23 | 30:2 36:6,9,14 | | task 36:5 45:11 | test 48:15 171:5 | thereon 211:10 | 43:4,10 48:17 | | 46:9 58:23 | testified 9:22 | thing 55:21 84:4 | 49:1,10 51:5 | | 45:14<br>tasks | 30:23 40:5 48:13 | 95:14 105:14 | 56:22 57:1,13,14 | | 168:17<br>taxes | 50:11 89:12 97:13 | 108:25 141:12 | 65:7,17 84:3,18 | | 172:23 | 104:20 120:16 | 182:18 | 127:15 168:2 | | team 157:23 | 161:8 181:10 | things 11:20 47:8 | 170:17 184:5 | | 174:19 | 183:20 185:2 | 66:17 85:16 89:25 | tight<br>19:11 | | technically 24:2 | 204:2 | 92:22 97:7 99:9 | 18:1.2<br>tim | | 170:20 | testify 44:24 48:24 | 99:13 107:22,23 | time 11:23 17:6,8 | | telephone 16:9,22 | 80:11 94:19 95:15 | 127:15,20 136:20 | 24:4,6,23 25:2,5 | | 29:5 31:18<br>tell | 191:24 | 182:1 194:9 195:1 | 25:13,16,18,25 | | 35:6 43:16 46:4,8 | testifying 48:7 | 198:25 199:19,21 | 27:20 28:4 34:11 | | 47:2 58:2,15 | 61:23 64:5 75:18 | 200:4 | 34:22,25 35:4 | | 59:25 73:13 74:6 | 90:8 159:13 | think 13:18,20 | 37:22 38:18 40:17 | | 81:18,21,23 83:21 | testimony 4:12 | 24:9 34:8 41:21 | 40:24 41:3,9,17 | | 86:22 93:10 94:3 | 13:19 15:8 26:12 | 50:11 58:25 62:14 | 42:5 44:8 49:18 | | 97:10 99:15 109:3 | 29:19 36:5,12 | 66:10,16 86:3 | 54:8 62:13,15,17 | | 109:25 110:5 | 37:23 48:2,8,15,16 | 93:8 94:12 100:21 | 62:18 63:23 64:9 | | 113:25 117:9 | 51:2,2 60:15 | 117:4119:15 | 66:23 67:2,15 | | 125:13 128:18 | 61:14 63:3 64:7 | 129:6 140:15,18 | 69:4,18 80:24 | | 134:12 138:2 | 75:25 76:3 94:12 | 150:11 156:11 | 83:6 84:19 94:24 | | 144:2 159:25 | 94:15.19 96:20 | 157:24 160:14 | 96:4,12,17,20 97:6 | | 160:2 175:21 | 106:14 132:24 | 166:19 167:1,24 | 98:10,14,18 | | 184:1,1,2 198:17 | 159:15,19 161:5,7 | 181:25 182:10 | 103.18 104.8 | | 199: 1 | 188:4 209:7 | 183:10,23 190:16 | 106:14,18 112:14 | | telling 19:14 | 212:16 | 194:25 200:1 | 112:18 123:8 | | 194:24 | thank 8:17 10:13 | 201:13 203:4 | 124:13 126:5,9 | | 17:8,9 22:4<br>ten | 10:14 11:18 12:8 | 205:24 | 127:24 134:23 | | 23:9 33:8 66:19 | 12:18 16:7 40:2.4 | thinking 75:13 | 136:4 138:4,4,8,12 | | 117:3 163:17 | 55:767:17 71:8 | thirty 21:11,14,16 | 139:4 140:8,17 | | 167:24 185:16,18 | 71:23 78:8 84:21 | 21:20 22:4,12 | 143:15 144:14 | | 160:21<br>tendered | 84:23 88:6 111:23 | 23:2,6,9 33:1,7 | 145:16 148:22 | | tendering 191:5 | 113:19 126:19 | 132:8 205:19 | 156:3 162:9,23,25 | | 81:8,14<br>term | 129:11 156:15 | thought<br>128:3 | 163:3,13 166:5 | | 84:13 85:19,22,24 | 167:7 173:20 | 171.4 | 167:24 168:16 | | | | | |

[time - turn]

| 169:15,23,24 | 35:18,19 43:8<br>told | 11:13<br>trans ated | 75:10,11 77:13 | |-------------------|-----------------------|----------------------|---------------------| | 173:17,18 174:4,8 | 60:1761:12 63:8 | 11:14 12:14 65:6 | 78:3,10 79:13,13 | | 176:16,18 195:2 | 63:9,10 65:23 | 83:6 89:6 | 79:15 80:11,16,18 | | 203:10 205:23 | 79:24 87:5,7 89:3 | translation 31:16 | 80:20 81:2,5,8,14 | | 209:3 212:11 | 91:12 110:24 | 89:4.24 94:5 | 85:22:23 89:11 | | 214:10,18,24 | 133:19,22 135:15 | translator<br>88:24 | 91:12 97:14 108:6 | | 215:7 | 137:22,24,24 | 92:23 93:2.10.19 | 108:22 169:22 | | times 2:6,7,16,17 | 138:20 139:2 | 95:10,11 131:5 | 175:24 183:4 | | 26:17 66:1 82:15 | 145:7 148:10 | 200:15 | 193:17 211:9,13 | | 95:3 105:17,22 | 162:21 176:11,13 | transport 111:13 | 212:15 | | 138:21 139:20,22 | 179:14 180:6,9,11 | transportation | 160:16<br>trust | | 139:24 140:1,18 | 199:18 | 99:10 107:13,22 | 3:4 8:16<br>trustee | | 151:3 159:14 | tongue<br>] 1:6 | 108:11 109:11,17 | 146:18 194-25 | | 184:6 200:8 204:2 | tonight 210:7 | 111:1,3 | 196:7 | | 204:4 208:4 | 56:1 57:1 74:8<br>top | travel 25:19 26:14 | truth 50:5 80:23 | | timing<br>182:4 | 187:22 | 26:17 27:4 40:12 | truthful 13:19 | | timothy<br>18:1 | topic 44:20 87:14 | 111:7 | 31:21 59:25 61:22 | | title 42:21 89:17 | 94:20 174:14 | traveled 23:23 | 62:1,3,9 63:3 64:2 | | 93:19 95:1,2 | topics 15:6,10 20:5 | 24:7 27:16,17 | 64:6 | | titles 44:15 45:2 | 20:9 26:2 37:7,8 | 109:7 | truthfully 13:16 | | 49:19 65:24 95:3 | 38:6 41:25 65:19 | travels 108:13,23 | try 11:7 12:12 | | 98:22 137:10 | 160:23,23 | 117:14 | 37:13 71:21 76:18 | | 142:5.7 180:16 | total<br>187:16 | treasurer 42:23,25 | 87:14 98:10,14 | | today 11:5 13:19 | 209:10 | 45:25 46:13 47:20 | 129:9 138:14 | | 15:2,7,8,12,20,25 | tower 2:6,16 | 49:4 97:20 98:2 | 150:13 169:12 | | 16:24 17:2 36:3 | transaction | 103:9 104:12 | trying 26:6,9 32:7 | | 49:266:19 92:20 | 197:20 | 110:18 122:13,20 | 50:25 51:1 65:16 | | 94:15.20 109:5 | transcribed | 128:2 134:19 | 70:7 92:7 93:5.8 | | 115:22 130:22 | 212:14 | 142:6,12 159:12 | 95:13 111:9 114:7 | | 131:21 136:19 | transcript 4:12,16 | 164:6 165:11,15 | 116:3,7 128:11 | | 140:13 150:2 | 13:4,9 20:8 21:11 | 166:4 180:5 195:6 | 135:14 136:13,13 | | 158:9 159:13 | 21:25 22:21 31:2 | trial 4:16 13:1 | 143:10 163:6,9 | | 162:13 163:1 | 36:22 37:18 39:17 | 96:20 | 172:15 180:3.14 | | 176:16 182:9 | 48:1550:16 51:8 | tried 92:23 165:9 | 180:16 184:22 | | 209:4 | 76:20 85:3 93:4 | 197:25<br>tries | 196:23 197:19 | | today's 16:10 | 210:3 212:16,18 | trip<br>194:9 195:12 | 200:23 | | 17:11,16,20 18:7 | 214:6.8.10.13.13 | 196.3 | tuesday<br>1:18 7:2 | | 18:19 116:12 | 214:21 215:2,2 | true 51:3,11,23 | 212:10 | | 133:17,21 134:5 | translate 40:19 | 52:15 54:20 62:6 | turn 29:3 73:10 | | 209:7,20 | 59:16 82:22 89:6 | 62:17,19 63:13 | 87:23 | | | 89:15 92:10,19 | 67:24 69:1,7 75:4 | | | | | | |

[turning - visited]

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[void - witness]

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[witness - york]

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[york - zoom]

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Federal Rules of Civil Procedure

Rule 30

(e) Review By the Witness; Changes.

(1) Review; Statement of Changes. On request by the deponent or a party before the deposition is completed, the deponent must be allowed 30 days after being notified by the officer that the transcript or recording is available in which: (A) to review the transcript or recording; and (B) if there are changes in form or substance, to sign a statement listing the changes and the reasons for making them.

(2) Changes Indicated in the Officer's Certificate. The officer must note in the certificate prescribed by Rule 30 (f) (1) whether a review was requested and, if so, must attach any changes the deponent makes during the 30-day period.

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