Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok): community discussion 116

hel*** relays a question asking which institutions require fees and how check payees should be designated.

reb*** contends that intervening in an already existing case does not require paying fees.

sar*** describes how pro se submissions to the Southern District are free by email or mail, whereas the Second Circuit charges a $600 injunction fee that can be waived using an IFP form.

sar*** notes an inability to open a shared file and requests a PDF conversion.

ntp*** suggests finding a translator to overcome language obstacles.

ntp*** adds jokingly that a lack of money prevents hiring professional translation help.

kir*** argues that all of these matters must be brought into the Second Circuit.

roy*** contends that if individuals who gave PAX depositions testified that the evidence was falsified, the entire case could be overturned.

kir*** asserts that the issues were presented in an improper manner.

joh*** argues that responsibility rests with Himalaya Exchange because it possesses user rosters and runs on a private chain.

get*** asks whether changing exchanges means token trading will resume and inquires about the status of Hpay.

joh*** acknowledges having little clarity regarding the operational status of Hpay.

joh*** contends that funds deposited directly through the exchange can easily be traced among frozen assets.

joh*** contends that the connection tying the bankruptcy case to the criminal case was never properly explained.

joh*** alleges that the criminal prosecution utilized fabricated evidence originating from the bankruptcy proceeding.

joh*** contends that both cases relied on circular reasoning to support each other.

joh*** argues that these two legal situations represent completely distinct matters.

joh*** contends that as long as Guo refuses to plead guilty, Luc cannot obtain the assets.

joh*** inquires whether the transactions at issue involved matched trading.

get*** questions what accounting records could possibly remain to be reconciled.

get*** describes how participants engaged in both direct wire transfers and matched trades.

joh*** contends that the Alliance holds blame and must be sued, though matched trades cannot easily be calculated.

get*** expresses doubt about the feasibility of an individual personally suing the Alliance.

get*** argues that litigating for years over several tens of thousands of HDO would drag on endlessly.

get*** emphasizes that those funds were transferred directly to the Alliance.

joh*** alleges that insiders pocketed real dollars from low-cost quotas while selling $80 matched Himalaya Coins to retail buyers, keeping these off-exchange funds excluded from government seizure totals.

joh*** contends that Gettr operating expenses were never funded by veteran chairs, asserting the scheme mirrored past legal fee solicitations.

hel*** advocates focusing collective energy on taking down Luc and forcing him to appear as a witness in court.

kir*** asserts that Luc represents the primary core issue.

kir*** contends that defense counsel refused to pursue arguments regarding Luc in Document 700.

kir*** mentions having limited proficiency in English.

ntp*** contends that third parties possess no legal authority to subpoena Luc.

mrz*** shares a draft prayer for relief requesting a court inquiry into conflicts involving Luc A. Despins, Paul Hastings LLP, the replacement of trustee Joe D. Whitley under Bankruptcy Dkt. 498, PAG/PAX, and Fox Hunt matters.

mrz*** describes focusing filings on ties between Luc, Paul Hastings, Chinese state enterprises, and PAX, alongside Fox Hunt operations, DOJ personnel corruption, and the replacement of trustee Joe D. Whitley under Bankruptcy Dkt. 498.

ntp*** contends that nobody in court pays attention to claims brought by third parties.

mrz*** contends that the court fears mentions of George Higginbotham and DOJ corruption, while prosecutors fear mentions of Luc.

joh*** argues that legal action should target the Alliance entities that collected funds on suspected money-laundering grounds.

joh*** suggests waiting to see how Guo resolves matters after his release, noting compensation might occur through other avenues.

joh*** advises that the simplest approach is joining the existing case pro se without incurring attorney expenses.

joh*** predicts future class-action lawsuits, referencing Long Island's litigation against Lihong Wei as a potential model.

get*** disputes the value of class actions, contending that litigation exhausts funds over years and leaves nothing to recover even upon winning.

mrz*** argues that proceeding with filings at least establishes an official record of the court ignoring third-party claims.

him*** suggests filing a formal motion if members are dissatisfied with both figures.

him*** urges escalating the matter directly before the court.

joh*** agrees with the stance that Guo should not be deified.

joh*** contends that individuals who idolize Guo do so purely to exploit him.

cin*** remarks that it is difficult to determine how capable Guo truly is.

cin*** contends that regardless of whether actions are framed as strategic maneuvering, Guo's conduct amounts to continuous falsehoods.

joh*** argues that labeling critics as pseudo-dissidents frames legitimate questioning as an attack on the Whistleblower Movement and institutional disloyalty.

joh*** describes this labeling as an adoption of century-old CCP united front tactics.

ntp*** contends that opponents controlled the entire Whistleblower Movement from the beginning, isolating Guo as a figurehead while supporters lived inside a fabricated illusion.

mia*** argues that structures where only uplines make money while downlines suffer losses exhibit pyramid scheme characteristics and resemble a cult.

him*** disputes that assessment, stating it is not necessarily true.

joh*** remarks that remaining in the group at least allows members to see a glimmer of hope.

joh*** cautions members against holding excessively high expectations.

joh*** suggests this outcome could properly extinguish everyone's notions of taking down the CCP.

joh*** advises participants to concentrate on personal reform and rebuilding their daily lives.

joh*** contends that the Alliance telling harmed investors not to take legal action demonstrates either foolishness or deliberate misconduct.

mrz*** insists that no excuses should be made, recounting that Guo declared on live streams that he would win even without a single fellow fighter.

joh*** states that nobody would involve themselves in this mess if investor funds had not been lost.

him*** argues that if participants take no action, Guo will simply have won entirely on his own.

reb*** quotes court filings Doc. 151 p. 3, Doc. 103 p. 2, and Doc. 84 p. 13 to describe how the court ruled that single-member entity MOS lacked standing to recover losses for unnamed third parties, arguing that the litigation served to block real investors from seeking recovery.

reb*** notes that the bankruptcy case is based in Connecticut and inquires whether Guo's daughter litigated against Luc from EDNY up to the Second Circuit.

joh*** alleges that Xia was only owed around $4 million sent by MOS but received over $8 million in settlement, while authorized investors were turned away with excuses about frozen funds.

reb*** questions whether genuine cash investors were far fewer than the 6,000 cited by Gale, hypothesizing that many names were phantom accounts overlapping with GTV and G-Club buyers.

spr*** questions whether anyone actually paid $80 for Himalaya Coins given that the peak price reached only around $50.

spr*** disputes that buyers would pay such extreme premiums when matched transactions ordinarily follow prevailing market rates.

joh*** explains that $50 was the official exchange price using HDO to buy HCN, whereas $80 was paid in over-the-counter matched trades at an off-exchange premium.

beg*** recounts from Arizona filings Doc. 157 p. 11 line 25 and p. 8 line 18 that MOS transferred $4,050,000 to Maywind while Xia recovered $8,136,288.58 through other courts, noting the judge highlighted double recovery concerns before awarding $4,550,000 against Wei.

beg*** calculates whether Maywind received $27.15 million in total investor funds, leaving around $6 million retained by Wei after transfers to ACA Capital and Xia.

joh*** contends that the defense sacrificing Qing was merely the initial step following external pressure.

joh*** argues that to avoid judicial fraud accusations surrounding the Mahwah agreement, prosecutors will eventually be forced to abandon Luc as appellate pressure mounts.

joh*** alleges that prosecutors, defense attorneys, and Qing were collaboratively putting on a show against Guo.

him*** notes that following Guo's arrest on Mar 15, the subsequent Gettr post was actually published by the Alliance.

ntp*** points out that final decision-making power still rests with Judge Torres.

kir*** argues that the Second Circuit would not repeatedly leave procedural openings if it did not credit their position.

spr*** contends that other farms did not remit money to Maywind because funds were retained locally.

beg*** recounts that Second Circuit filings accepted for thirteen individuals raised Paul Hastings' Beijing office conflicts, political motivations, Southern District misconduct, and alleged prosecutorial collusion with Luc.

cin*** argues that blaming CCP interference for GTV's failure contains a logical flaw, noting Guo realistically failed to deliver results under prevailing conditions.

cin*** uses the analogy of a boxer who claims guaranteed victory despite getting knocked out first to illustrate that subsequent excuses contradict assertions of certainty.

cin*** remarks ironically that claims of Guo inevitably defeating the CCP fall apart because the CCP dismantled him first.

him*** questions what societal conditions will look like after the regime's eventual collapse.

him*** contends that relying entirely on a single person like Guo would merely recreate another autocracy.

him*** asks rhetorically whether Donald Trump's actual capability even matters.

him*** remarks ironically that regardless of whether democracy is genuine or fabricated, it would still be labeled a democracy.

reb*** questions who will have the standing to divide the tens of trillions accumulated by the CCP in a post-CCP era.