Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok): community discussion 158
Community discussion, batch 158 (Sep 11, 2026 – Sep 17, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Community members discussed criminal and bankruptcy litigation involving Guo Wengui, weighing the Second Circuit appeal prospects against evidentiary limits and potential sentencing hearings. Participants debated whether the Second Circuit would reject Crime Victims' Rights Act claims regarding Rule 32 sentencing disputes or address alleged procedural errors. Meanwhile, rumors surrounding Changdao's purported settlement and Luosi's detention sparked sharp disputes over farm leader liabilities, illicit fund flows, and restitution strategies.
Firsthand participant accounts and investment experiences, preserved with dates, sources and reply context.
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Discussions on Rumors of Guo Wengui's Prison Calls and Second Circuit Appeal Challenges
2 cited messages · Sep 11, 2026 – Sep 11, 2026
Participants discuss rumors regarding Guo Wengui making phone calls from prison following token announcements.
beg*** asks whether Guo made another phone call to Jiajia following the launch of Getter coin.
Chinese original · beg*** · Sep 11, 2026kir*** contends that Guo has been placing various phone calls.
Chinese original · kir*** · Sep 11, 2026
Discussions on Alleged Settlements, Non-Prosecution Agreements, and Farm Refund Liabilities
2 cited messages · Sep 11, 2026 – Sep 11, 2026
Participants argue over potential prosecutorial deals, non-prosecution agreements, and internal betrayals among farm figures.
beg*** questions whether anyone can guarantee that prosecution attorneys will not dismiss charges or face staffing cuts.
Chinese original · beg*** · Sep 11, 2026sar*** contends that insiders are selling each other out to survive and using private messages beyond the reach of subordinates.
Chinese original · sar*** · Sep 11, 2026
Speculation on Rumored Detention of Luosi and Accusations of Internal Betrayal
2 cited messages · Sep 11, 2026 – Sep 11, 2026
Participants exchange allegations regarding who leaked member information following rumors about Luosi's detention.
joh*** asserts that personal safety and staying alive are paramount.
Chinese original · joh*** · Sep 11, 2026joh*** alleges to cin*** that may*** was the person who betrayed and sold cin***'s information.
Chinese original · joh*** · Sep 11, 2026
Debate Over Lack of Appellate Counsel, Structural Errors, and Asset Preservation
2 cited messages · Sep 12, 2026 – Sep 12, 2026
Participants analyze appellate scenarios where Guo Wengui might proceed without Second Circuit counsel while private claimants litigate to the end.
kir*** argues that after reassessing the case, Guo might not have any legal counsel in the Second Circuit.
Chinese original · kir*** · Sep 12, 2026kir*** contends that private claimants will pursue their legal actions all the way to the final conclusion.
Chinese original · kir*** · Sep 12, 2026
Analysis of Second Circuit Deliberations on CVRA Petitions and Sentencing Procedures
2 cited messages · Sep 14, 2026 – Sep 14, 2026
Participants examine how the Second Circuit might address Crime Victims' Rights Act standing alongside Rule 32 claims.
kir*** argues that while CVRA provisions preclude retrial requests and could defeat standing to vacate sentencing, the court must still confront factual assertions regarding Rule 32.
Chinese original · kir*** · Sep 14, 2026kir*** contends that even if the Second Circuit denies standing to vacate, it will still have to address the factual record presented.
Chinese original · kir*** · Sep 14, 2026
Disputes Over Restitution Strategies and Accountability for Alleged Fraud
2 cited messages · Sep 16, 2026 – Sep 16, 2026
Participants debate personal accountability and lingering loyalty toward Guo Wengui despite financial losses.
may*** criticizes the contradictory logic of continuing to support Guo after being defrauded by him.
Chinese original · may*** · Sep 16, 2026may*** contends that the Alliance could never have defrauded victims of their money without Guo.
Chinese original · may*** · Sep 16, 2026
Discussions on Farm Leaders' Financial Dealings, Factional Conflicts, and Legal Risks
2 cited messages · Sep 13, 2026 – Sep 13, 2026
Participants discuss conflicts between farm leaders and speculate on the motives behind newly issued tokens.
joh*** argues that Qingteng risks criminal exposure by pressuring Changdao without possessing a non-prosecution agreement regarding withheld funds.
Chinese original · joh*** · Sep 13, 2026joh*** contends that Qingteng issued Getter coin to launder previous funds and maintain the loyalty of core operators rather than merely soliciting money.
Chinese original · joh*** · Sep 13, 2026
Reflections on Financial Losses and Mutual Accusations Across Farm Factions
2 cited messages · Sep 16, 2026 – Sep 16, 2026
Participants reflect on personal losses from supporting Guo Wengui while highlighting public disputes between different farm leaders.
hel*** recounts feeling foolish and defeated, describing a painful personal recovery after realizing that Guo cannot even save himself.
Chinese original · hel*** · Sep 16, 2026joh*** points out online attacks launched by An Xiaodong from the Spanish farm against Qingteng and the Shanghai farm faction.
Chinese original · joh*** · Sep 16, 2026