郭文贵破产案 · ECF #102-1

元数据

当事人
郭文贵 (Guo Wengui / Miles Guo / Ho Wan Kwok)
法院
CTB
案号
22-50073
ECF #
102
类型
UNKNOWN
立案日
2022-03-19

原始法庭文件为英文,下方为英文全文。

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# Transcript of Howan Kwok

Date: April 1, 2021 Case: Cheng -v- Guo

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| | | | I | | |-----|-------------------------------------------------------|-----|----------------------------------------------|---| | | 1 | | | 3 | | 1 | UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT | 1 | APPEARANCES: (BY VIDEOCONFERENCE) | | | 2 | SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK | 2 | | | | 3 | ---------------- | 3 | RANDAZZA LEGAL GROUP | | | 4 | LOGAN CHENG f/k/a Shuiyan Cheng, | 4 | Attorneys for Plaintiff | | | 5 | Plaintiff, | 5 | 2764 Lake Sahara Drive, Suite 109 | | | 6 | 1:20-cv-05678-KPF<br>ーVー | 6 | Las Vegas, NV 89117 | | | 7 | MENGUI GUO, | 7 | BY: JAY MARSHALL WOLMAN, ESQ. | | | 8 | Defendant. | 8 | MARC RANDAZZA, ESQ. | | | 9 | | ਰੇ | | | | 1 0 | | 10 | | | | 1 1 | | | 11 SCHULMAN BHATTACHARYA, LLC | | | 1 2 | REMOTE DEPOSITION OF HOWAN KWOK | | 12 Attorneys for Defendant | | | 1 3 | April 1, 2021 | 13 | 7500 Old Georgetown Rd, Suite 901 | | | 1 4 | | 14 | | | | | | | Bethesda, Maryland 20814 | | | | 15 Reported by: | | 15 BY: JEFFREY GAVENMAN, ESQ. | | | | 16 MARY F. BOWMAN, RPR, CRR | 16 | | | | | 17 JOB NO. 360803 | 17 | | | | 18 | | | 18 Also Present: | | | 1 9 | | 19 | Juliet Hooper, Document Technician | | | 20 | | 20 | Una Wilkinson, Mandarin Interpreter | | | 21 | | 2 1 | | | | 22 | | 22 | | | | 23 | | 23 | | | | 24 | | 24 | | | | 25 | | 25 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 2 | | | 4 | | 1 | | 1 | | | | 2 | | 2 | | | | 3 | | 3 | IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND | | | 4 | April 1, 2021 | | 4 AGREED, by and between the attorneys for | | | 5 | 10:00 a.m. | 5 | the respective parties herein, that | | | 6 | | 6 | filing and sealing be and the same are | | | 7 | | 7 | hereby waived. | | | 8 | Remote deposition of HOWAN KWOK, held | 8 | IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND | | | ਰੇ | before Mary F. Bowman, a Registered Professional | | 9 AGREED that all objections, except as to | | | | 10 Reporter, Certified Realtime Reporter, and Notary | | 10 the form of the question, shall be | | | | 11 Public of the States of New York and New Jersey. | | 11 reserved to the time of the trial. | | | 1 2 | | 12 | | | | 1 3 | | 13 | IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND | | | | | | | | | 1 4 | | | 14 AGREED that the within deposition may be | | | 1 5 | | | 15 sworn to and signed before any officer | | | 1 6 | | | 16 authorized to administer an oath, with | | | 1 7 | | | 17 the same force and effect as if signed | | | 18 | | | 18 and sworn to before the Court. | | | 1 9 | | 19 | | | | 20 | | 20 | | | | 2 1 | | 21 | | | | 22 | | | | | | | | 22 | | | | 23 | | 23 | | | | 24 | | 24 | | | | 25 | | 25 | | | | | | | | |

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| 5 | | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | THE REPORTER: Will counsel | answer, as a general proposition, you are required | | please stipulate that in lieu of | to nonetheless answer my questions. And your | | formally swearing in the interpreter, | 3<br>answers are going to need to be in words, rather | | the reporter will instead ask the | than in nods or sounds in order to ensure that we<br>ব | | interpreter to acknowledge that their<br>5 | have an accurate transcript of this proceeding.<br>ર્ટ | | 6<br>interpretation will be true under the | If at any time you need to take a<br>6 | | penalties of perjury, that counsel will | 7 break, please let me know and we will do so. But | | not object to the admissibility of the | 8 I would ask that you answer any pending question | | transcript based on proceeding in this | 9 unless it is to confer with your counsel regarding | | 1 0<br>way . | 10 a claim of privilege. | | 1 1<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Yes. | And I would ask that if you don't<br>11 | | 1 2<br>MR. WOLMAN: Yes. | 12 understand a question, please don't guess. I | | 1 3<br>THE REPORTER: Do you solemnly swear | 13 would be happy to try to rephrase it. | | 14<br>or affirm that the interpretation you will | Do you understand that?<br>14 | | 1 5<br>give in this deposition will be from English | Yes, I understand.<br>15<br>A. | | 16<br>to Mandarin and from Mandarin to English to | | | 17<br>the best of your ability? | Q. Have you ever had your deposition<br>16 | | 18<br>THE INTERPRETER: I do. | 17 taken previously? | | 1 9 | Yes.<br>18<br>A. | | 20 | How many times?<br>19<br>(). | | 21 | I can't recall.<br>A.<br>20 | | 22 | Q.<br>Is it more than five?<br>21 | | 23 | Possible.<br>22<br>A. | | 24 | Q. Were those in proceedings in the<br>23 | | 25 | 24 United States? | | | Yes.<br>25<br>A. | | 6 | 8 | | | | | HOWAN KWOK, | Q. Are there any particular cases you can<br>1 | | 2<br>called as a witness by the parties, | recall in which your deposition was taken?<br>2 | | 3<br>having been duly sworn, testified as | 3<br>A. Pacific Alliance. And Guo Baosheng | | 4<br>follows: | defamation case and Ha Yieliang defamation case.<br>ব | | 5<br>EXAMINATION BY | Q. Before we proceed, I want to clarify<br>5 | | 6<br>MR. WOLMAN: | one thing, you said before we proceeded that your<br>6 | | 7<br>Q. Good morning, Mr. Kwok. | name is Howan Kwok. Is that correct?<br>7 | | 8<br>Good morning, sir.<br>A. | 8<br>Yes.<br>A. | | 9<br>Q. My name is Jay Wolman and I represent | ರ<br>Q. Can I hear you pronounce your last | | 10 Mr. Logan Cheng who is a plaintiff in a suit | 10 name so I can make sure I address you properly and | | 11 against you in the U.S. District Court for the | 11 pronounce it properly. | | 12 Southern District of New York. | A.<br>K-W-O-K.<br>12 | | We have with us today an<br>13 | 13<br>Q. Can I hear you say your last name? | | | 14 | | 14 interpreter who will be interpreting my questions<br>15 to you and your answers back to us. And because | A. K-W-O-K -- O-K, H-O-W-A-N, that is my<br>15 name. | | | | | 16 of the number of people, we can't talk over each<br>17 other. | Q. I understand. I'm not asking that<br>16 | | | 17 question. I want to hear you say your last name.<br>Kwok.<br>A. | | 18<br>And even if you understand some | 18 | | 19 English, please make sure that you hear the | 19<br>Kwok. Thank you.<br>Q. | | 20 interpreted question and answer in your native | 20<br>Now, this lawsuit has the spelling of | | 21 language in order to ensure that we get the most | 21 your name as W-E-N-G-U-I, G-U-O. Are you familiar | | 22 accurate discourse between us. | 22. with that? | | 23<br>And you have present today your | 23<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | 24 lawyer, Mr. Gavenman, who may make certain<br>25 objections. But unless he directs you not to | 24<br>Can you clarify which lawsuit we are talking<br>about?<br>ે રે |

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| 1<br>1<br>MR. WOLMAN: I said this lawsuit.<br>MR. GAVENMAN: There is no reason to<br>2<br>MR. GAVENMAN: OK.<br>2<br>talk about the immigration status, right?<br>3<br>3<br>You can ask this question, but if you go any<br>A.<br>Yes.<br>4<br>Q.<br>Is that a name you use?<br>4<br>further about immigration status --<br>5<br>5<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk)<br>Yes.<br>A.<br>6<br>Why do you use that name?<br>6<br>Q. I will repeat, what is your<br>Q.<br>7<br>A. Now, it is because K-W-O-K and G-U-O,<br>7<br>immigration status, Mr. Kwok?<br>8 they were actually the pronunciation for the same<br>8<br>A. I am in the application -- in the<br>9 character, but one is the pronunciation from<br>ல்<br>middle of the application of political asylum.<br>Q. And what is the spelling of your name<br>10 mainland China and one is the pronunciation in<br>10<br>11 Hong Kong.<br>11 that you used on your asylum application?<br>A. H-O-W-A-N, K-W-O-K.<br>Q. What about the given name?<br>12<br>12<br>A. It is because when I went to Hong Kong<br>Q. Before you mentioned a social security<br>13<br>13<br>14 and because the name has been duplicated in some<br>14 card with a different spelling, is that correct?<br>15 way, so I changed the given name.<br>A. No, it's still the same name,<br>15<br>16 H-O-W-A-N, K-W-O-K.<br>Q. What is on -- strike that.<br>16<br>Do you have a form of identification<br>Q. I thought I heard you mention a<br>17<br>17<br>18 issued by a government, either federally or state<br>18 spelling H-A-Y-U-N, is that correct?<br>19 in the United States?<br>A. No, I have been saying all the time<br>19<br>Yes.<br>20 that it's H-O-W-A-N.<br>20<br>A.<br>Q. And what is that identification?<br>Q. Have you ever used the spelling<br>21<br>21<br>22 H-A-O-Y-U-N for your given name?<br>22<br>A. Howan, H-O-W-A-N.<br>23 Q. Q. Let me ask again. What is the form of<br>23<br>A. No.<br>24 identification?<br>Q. Now, you mentioned a social security<br>24<br>25<br>A. Social security card.<br>25 card. Are you employed?<br>10<br>12<br>Q. Do you have a driver's license issued<br>1<br>A. I have always been the consultant for<br>a lot of companies. And my current employment is<br>2<br>by the State of New York?<br>2<br>3<br>No.<br>the -- I am in the broadcasting and to take down<br>A.<br>ತ<br>4<br>Q. Do you have a form of alien<br>the Chinese Communist Party. It is a broadcasting<br>ব<br>5<br>identification issued by the United States<br>5<br>revolution.<br>6<br>Department of Homeland Security?<br>Q. How much do you get paid for that?<br>6<br>7<br>7<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>No.<br>A.<br>8<br>Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question<br>Q. What is your immigration status to the<br>8<br>9<br>invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>United States?<br>9<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>10<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection. Jay, why<br>10<br>is it relevant in any way what his<br>He can't answer that question.<br>11<br>11<br>immigration status is? Where are you<br>12<br>Q. Mr. Kwok, are you taking your<br>12<br>going -- I mean, this is really not a<br>13 attorney's advice and refusing to answer that<br>13<br>14 question?<br>particularly appropriate line of<br>14<br>15<br>ો ર<br>questioning.<br>A. Yes.<br>I'm not going to necessarily<br>Q. Are you presently being prosecuted<br>16<br>16<br>direct him not to answer this, but I<br>17 for -- under -- for any crime by any United<br>17<br>don't know why we are going down the<br>18 States, state or the federal government?<br>18<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's<br>pathway about what his immigration<br>19<br>19<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>20<br>status is.<br>20<br>21<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>MR. WOLMAN: To determine whether or<br>21<br>not he has an identification card.<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>22<br>22<br>23<br>MR. GAVENMAN: OK, so we can --<br>MR. WOLMAN: Jeff, he can't refuse<br>23<br>24<br>MR. WOLMAN: And no speaking<br>whether or not there is a prosecution.<br>24 | ರ | 11 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------|----------------------------------------------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | objection, Counsel.<br>25 | 25<br>Either the government is prosecuting or not. |

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| 17 | 19 | |------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 1<br>the Nevada case? | screen. | | 2 | 2 | | MR. WOLMAN: The Nevada case we are | (Exhibit 1, Amended Notice of | | 3 | 3 | | discussing right now. | Deposition marked for identification, as | | 4 | 4 | | A. They have used translator briefly to | of this date.) | | 5 | 5 | | go through that complaint to me, you know, once. | Q. Mr. Kwok, to the best of your | | 6 | knowledge and understanding, is your presence here | | I can't read it myself because I don't know how to | 6 | | 7 | today pursuant to the amended notice of deposition | | read English. | 7 | | 8 | 8 | | Q. Are you familiar with the English | shown as Exhibit 1 ? | | alphabet? | 0 | | 9 | A. Yes. | | 10 | 10 | | A. I know the alphabet. | Q. Thank you. You can close that. | | Q. And are you able to tell the | Mr. Kwok, what did you do to | | 11 | 11 | | 12 difference between the letters "G-U-O" and | 12 prepare for the deposition today? I don't need to | | 13 'K-W-O-K''? | | | | 13 know what you and your attorney discussed. | | A.<br>14<br>Yes. | MR. GAVENMAN: I appreciate<br>14 | | Q. And did you see the English language | Mr. Wolman's clarification, but please don't | | ો ર | ો ર | | 16 version of the Nevada complaint before it was | reveal any attorney/client communications.<br>16 | | 17 filed? | You can just say generally what<br>17 | | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, you're | we did. | | 18 | 18 | | asking before he filed the complaint, did he | MR. WOLMAN: I didn't say -- wait, | | 19 | 19 | | read the complaint? | stop. Please don't change my question. I | | 20 | 20 | | MR. WOLMAN: Did he see the English | did not say "Generally." | | 21 | 21 | | language version of the complaint before it | MR. GAVENMAN: OK. | | 22 | 22 | | 23 | 23 | | was filed in Nevada. | THE INTERPRETER: I still need to | | Yes.<br>24<br>A. | interpret what counsel just has said. OK.<br>24 | | 25 | 25 | | Q. Did you notice at any time that it did | A. Yes. And then my -- | | 18 | 20 | | not contain your name with the spelling K-W-O-K? | THE INTERPRETER: Sorry, the witness | | l | 1 | | 2 | 2 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | just said something and he stopped, so I am | | 3<br>I don't remember.<br>A. | 3<br>just clarifying with him what was he saying. | | 4<br>Q. Did you observe that it contains the | 4<br>I just say yes.<br>A. | | 5 | 5 | | name spelled G-U-O throughout the complaint in | Q. That was not a yes-or-no question. | | 6 | 6 | | Nevada? | What did you do to prepare for today? | | 7 | 7 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | MR. GAVENMAN: Again, I'll caution | | 8<br>A.<br>No. | 8<br>you not to reveal any attorney/client | | 9<br>What is the name Miles Kwok?<br>(). | ರ<br>communications in this answer. | | A. Well, because any Chinese person | A. I have done some normal preparation | | 10 | 10 | | 11 operating or living in the western world, then we | 11 before appearing to court, but I can't tell you | | 12 would have an English name adding the last name, | 12 any more because that would reveal what had been | | 13 and that's Kwok. | 13 discussed between my counsel and myself. | | Q. Thank you. | Q. Did you review any documents to | | 14 | 14 | | MR. WOLMAN: Now, Ms. Hooper, I sent<br>ાં ર | 15 prepare for today's deposition? | | you a document starting 001. | A. No. | | 16 | 16 | | | | | TECHNICIAN: Yes, Counsel, would you | Q. Did you talk to anybody other than | | 17 | 17 | | like that on the screen?<br>18 | 18 your attorney about this deposition? | | MR. WOLMAN: Yes, please.<br>19 | 19<br>A.<br>No. | | TECHNICIAN: Would you like that | Q. Does anybody other than the people on | | 20 | 20 | | marked as an exhibit?<br>21 | 21 this screen know that you are being deposed today? | | MR. WOLMAN: Let's mark that as<br>22 | I don't know.<br>22<br>A. | | Exhibit 1. | Q. Have you told anybody that you are | | 23 | 23 | | TECHNICIAN: One moment please.<br>24 | 24 being deposed today? | | OK, the document is on the | A. I haven't told anyone specifically, | | ટર | 25 - - |

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Transcript of Howan Kwok Conducted on April 1, 2021 21 1 but then the thing is that every day, I will be 1 But now that you scroll down, I can see my 2 doing my broadcasting and during which I said that 2 signature. I don't know whether I have seen this I will be being a witness, but I did not 3 document before or not. 4 specifically say what case. Q. Is that your signature? Q. And in what broadcast did you say you 5 Yes. A. would be a witness? 6 Q. Do you remember --7 A. So it was at the 9:30 GTV program. A. It is my signature, Guo Wengui. This morning? 8 Q. Are you familiar with somebody named Q. Daniel Podhaskie? Yes. 9 A. Q. From where did you broadcast that? 10 ব Vec A. It was not a broadcasting. It was 11 Q. Where were you on December 10, 2020? 12 really just like making a video. It's like those 12 MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. 13 one-minute short videos and -- so nine minutes of 13 A. I can't remember. 14 video. But then after nine minutes, we would just 14 Q. Did you meet with Mr. Podhaskie on 15 do one-minute uploading. So it was like that kind 15 December 10, 2020? I don't recall. 16 of a video making. 16 A. Q. You said "we." Who is we? 17 Q. How do you recall the name A. I did not say "we." I said I. 18 Mr. Podhaskie? A. Daniel Podhaskie, he is working Q. Did anybody assist you with that 19 20 recording and uploading? 20 lawyer. He's a lawyer working in the work -- No. A. 21 working. Q. From where did you make that recording 22 Q. Is Mr. Podhaskie your lawyer? 23 and uploading? 23 MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. A. It was the same chair and the same 24 A. He's working for New York Golden 25 desk and same background. It's just right here. 25 Spring. 22 Q. Where is that? 1 Q. Thank you. A. It was 1801 Sherry Netherland. 18th 2 Do you have any reason to believe that 3 floor. this is not your signature as executed on Is that your residence? 4 December 10, 2020? Q. I live here. It's not mine, but I 5 A. No. A. live here. 6 Q. Did you understand this document MR. WOLMAN: I'm going to show you --7 before you signed it? 8 Ms. Hooper, a document that begins with 007. MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. 9 TECHNICIAN: Yes, one moment please. Yes. A. Would you like this marked as 10 Q. How were you able to understand it? Exhibit 2? 11 A. Because every time he would get a MR. WOLMAN: Yes, please. The 12 translator translating the documents before I document is on the screen. 13 understand it, before I sign it. (Exhibit 2, Defendant Wengui 14 Q. And what is Golden Spring New York? Guo's Verified Statement Pursuant to 15 A. It's a company. Local Civil Rule 26.1 marked for 16 And what is your relationship to that Q. identification, as of this date.) 17 company? Q. Mr. Guo, this says this document is 18 MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's 19 your verified statement pursuant to Local Civil 19 personal counsel, Mr. Guo declines to 20 Rule 26.1. respond to the question invoking his rights 20 Have you seen this document 21 under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. 22 before? Constitution. 22 MR. WOLMAN: And please scroll down. 23 Q. Are you accepting your attorney's A. So, you see, I can only recognize 24 advice and refusing to answer the question? 25 Wengui Guo, my name, and some Arabic numerics. 25 A. Yes.

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| ટર્સ | 27 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Q. On December 10, did you sign this | how to answer your question. I don't really know | | document in the presence of Mr. Podhaskie, a<br>2 | how to. And I don't really want to answer<br>2 | | Golden Spring attorney?<br>3 | irresponsibly so that to be irrelevant to this<br>3 | | 4<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I'm going to caution | 4<br>case. | | 5<br>you not to reveal any attorney/client | 5<br>Q. Without telling me the content of any | | communications in this answer.<br>6 | 6<br>conversations you had with Mr. Podhaskie, in what | | Q. Before we proceed, I need to establish<br>7 | 7<br>capacity does he represent you? | | 8<br>something. | 8<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | 9<br>You testified that Mr. Podhaskie was | 9<br>A. I cannot -- I am -- I am unable to | | 10 the lawyer for Golden Spring, New York. Is he | 10 answer this question. I cannot answer this | | 11 your lawyer as well? | 11 question. | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>12 | Q. Does Mr. Podhaskie represent you in<br>12 | | A. Yes.<br>13 | 13 any lawsuit? | | Q. Do you have a representation agreement<br>14 | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>14 | | 15 with Mr. Podhaskie? | A. I don't recall.<br>15 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>16 | Q. Does Mr. Podhaskie represent you for<br>16 | | A. This is between myself and my counsel,<br>17 | 17 any matter in which you have claimed the privilege | | 18 so I cannot answer that. | 18 under the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. | | Q. You can answer whether or not you have<br>19 | 19 Constitution? | | 20 a representation agreement. | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>20 | | I don't know.<br>A.<br>21 | I don't know.<br>21<br>A. | | Q. How do you know Mr. Podhaskie<br>22 | Q. Does any attorney represent you with<br>22 | | 23 represents you personally and not just Golden | 23 respect to any matter for which you have claimed | | 24 Spring, New York? | 24 privilege under the Fifth Amendment to the United | | A. Because he's representing me all<br>25 - | 25 States Constitution? | | | | | 26 | 28 | | along.<br>1 | MR. GAVENMAN: You are including this | | 2<br>Q. When did you first retain | 2<br>one where it just happened? | | 3<br>Mr. Podhaskie? | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, I think | | 4<br>A. I don't recall. | that was a question for you, right?<br>4 | | 5<br>Q. For what purposes does Mr. Podhaskie | MR. GAVENMAN: This litigation is<br>5 | | 6<br>represent you individually? | obviously one of them.<br>6 | | 7<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Because the word | 7<br>Do you want that to be part of | | "purpose" is in there, I have to caution you<br>8 | 8<br>the answer or -- | | not to reveal any attorney/client<br>ರಿ | MR. WOLMAN: He can answer it as he<br>9 | | communications in this answer.<br>10 | 10<br>sees fit. | | A. My answer is that he's a lawyer.<br>11 | A. My lawyer here, my counsel, Jeff.<br>11 | | 12<br>Q. Do you have him on a general retainer | 12<br>Q. Have you claimed the protections of | | 13 for any and all purposes? | 13 the Fifth Amendment to the United States | | A. I don't understand when you say<br>14 | 14 Constitution in any other lawsuit? | | 15 general, what does it mean general or not general? | ાં ર<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I'm going to caution | | 16 I don't understand. | 16<br>him again not to reveal any attorney/client | | Q. Let me try to clarify.<br>17 | communications about this. I believe that<br>17 | | 18<br>Mr. Gavenman represents you as a | your understanding may come from that. So<br>18 | | 19 defendant in this case. For what purposes does | please don't reveal any attorney/client<br>19 | | 20 Mr. Podhaskie represent you? | communications.<br>20 | | MR. GAVENMAN: I'm going to object to<br>21 | A.<br>Yes.<br>21 | | 22 form and I'm going to again caution you not | Q. In what other lawsuits have you<br>22 | | 23 to reveal any attorney/client communications | 23 claimed the protections to the Fifth Amendment to | | in this answer.<br>24<br>A. That's right. That's why I don't know | 24 the United States Constitution?<br>I don't recall.<br>25<br>A. |

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| 29 | 31 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Q. When was the last time before this | Spring New York? | | 2<br>month you claimed the protection of the Fifth | 2<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | | 3<br>Amendment of the United States Constitution? | 3<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to answer the | | 4<br>And when I say this month, I mean | 4<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth | | 5<br>the last 30 days. | 5<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | 6<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | 6<br>Q. Are you accepting your attorney's | | 7<br>A. I don't recall. | 7<br>advice not to answer? | | 8<br>Q. Was your claim under the Fifth | 8<br>Yes.<br>A. | | 9<br>Amendment in the last year other than this | 9<br>Q. Are you an officer of Golden Spring | | 10 lawsuit? | 10 New York limited? | | 11<br>A. I don't recall. | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's<br>11 | | Q. Does Mr. Podhaskie send bills in your<br>12 | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>12 | | 13 name? | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>13 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>14 | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>14 | | 15<br>A. I don't understand your question. I | Q. Are you accepting your attorney's<br>ો ર | | 16 don't quite understand. | 16 advice not to answer? | | 17<br>Q. Do you get bills from Attorney | That's correct.<br>17<br>A. | | 18 Podhaskie for the services he renders to you? | Q. Did Golden Spring or anyone affiliated<br>18 | | A. I don't know.<br>19 | 19 with it take part in the decision to sue Mr. Cheng | | Q. Do you pay Mr. Podhaskie?<br>20 | 20 in Nevada? | | 21<br>No.<br>A. | MR. GAVENMAN: To the extent you can<br>21 | | Who pays Mr. Podhaskie?<br>22<br>Q. | answer without revealing attorney/client<br>22 | | 23<br>Golden Spring.<br>A. | communications, you can answer, but I<br>23 | | Q. Why does Mr. Golden Spring pay<br>24 | caution you not to reveal attorney/client<br>24 | | 25 Mr. Podhaskie for services rendered to you in your | communications.<br>ટર | | | | | | | | 30 | 32 | | 1<br>individual capacity? | 1<br>A. I did talk to my counsel about this | | 2<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Under the advice of | 2<br>matter, so because that would involve the | | 3<br>Mr. Guo's personal counsel, Mr. Guo declines | 3<br>privilege between counsel and client, so I cannot | | 4<br>to respond to the question invoking his | 4<br>answer this question. | | 5<br>rights under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. | 5<br>Q. Which counsel are you referring to? | | 6<br>Constitution. | Daniel.<br>6<br>A. | | Q. Are you accepting your attorney's<br>7 | 7<br>Q. Is Mr. Podhaskie employed by Golden | | 8<br>advice not to answer? | Spring New York or is he an independent outside<br>8 | | 9<br>A. Yes. | 9 vendor'! | | 10<br>Q. Are you aware that Mr. Cheng had a | I don't know.<br>10<br>A. | | 11 judgment against you in Nevada? | Q. Where is the office of Golden Spring<br>11 | | A.<br>That I know.<br>12 | 12 New York? | | 13<br>Q. Are you aware that that judgment was | 13<br>A. 61st Street -- sorry, 64th Street. | | 14 paid on your behalf by Golden Spring New York? | Q. And where is Mr. Podhaskie's office?<br>14 | | 15<br>Yes.<br>A. | A. Iseem to have seen him in the Golden<br>15 | | Q. Why did Golden Spring New York pay<br>1 Q | 16 Spring office, but I think that he might have | | 17 that judgment on your behalf? | 17 other offices as well. But I don't know where | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's<br>18 | 18 they are. | | 19<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to answer that | 19<br>Q. On the day you signed the verification | | 20<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth | 20 statement marked as Exhibit 2, why did you sign it | | 21 Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | 21 at Golden Spring? | | Q. Are you accepting your attorney's<br>22 | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>22 | | 23 advice? | 23<br>A. I don't remember signing the document | | A. That's correct.<br>24<br>Q. Do you own any interest in Golden<br>25 | 24 in Golden Spring. I don't ever state that I have<br>25 signed this document in Golden Spring. I think |

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Conducted on April 1, 2021 33 35 1 that you probably have mistaken my testimony. I 1 I don't know. 2 have never said that I signed this document in 2 Q. Please answer the question as stated 3 3 Golden Spring. to the best of your ability. 4 4 A. My answer is no, I can't recall. Q. Where did you meet with Mr. Podhaskie 5 5 to sign this document? Q. Are you currently represented in any A. My answer was that I don't recall. 6 6 matter by an attorney named Aaron Mitchell? 7 7 And why would you just like talking rubbish and MR. GAVENMAN: Not just in this 8 telling me that I signed in Golden Spring. I said 8 matter, Jay? You are talking about any 9 other matter? 0 I don't recall. 10 Q. Did Mr. Podhaskie print out the 10 MR. WOLMAN: Please don't answer the 11 11 document for you to sign? question for him. You are now answering a A. I don't recall. 12 12 question for him. 13 Q. Did you print out the document to be 13 MR. GAVENMAN: OK. He is represented 14 signed as Exhibit 2? 14 in this matter --A. I don't recall. ા ર 1 ર MR. WOLMAN: If you have an Q. Why did you choose Mr. Podhaskie to 16 16 objection, make your objection. Right now 17 notarize this document? 17 you are --18 A. Well, according to law, right? 18 MR. GAVENMAN: Trying to clarify the 19 Q. Why Mr. Podhaskie as opposed to any 19 question. 20 other notary public of the State of New York, is 20 MR. WOLMAN: You're not the deponent. 21 21 my question. A. Well, at the moment, I know at least 22 A. I trust him. 22 three counsel's name is Aaron. So I actually 23 Q. Do you have any other lawyers beside 23 can't remember Aaron, whatever that you are 24 Mr. Podhaskie and Mr. Gavenman? 24 talking about. So that is why I cannot answer MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. 25 25 that. So that is why I said I don't recall. 34 36 1 A. Yes. 1 Q. Do you have a representation agreement 2 Q. And who are those other lawyers? 2 with Aaron Mitchell? 3 3 MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. A. I don't know which counsel you're 4 A. I don't recall their names because if 4 talking about, which lawyer you are talking about. 5 they are in English, I don't usually remember 5 I am unable to answer this question. 6 them. 6 Q. Are you aware that an attorney named 7 Just like, for example, my 7 Aaron Mitchell has entered his appearance in this 8 counsel today, you may have referred the counsel 8 case on your behalf? 9 9 with another name, but I actually just know him as A. I know there is a lawyer named Aaron, 10 Jeff. And I just call him Jeff. 10 but I don't really know whether there is Aaron 11 But that is only natural because 11 Mitchell or what. I just don't know. 12 my reading ability of English probably is Q. Do you have a fee agreement with the 12 13 equivalent to any one-year-old child in the United 13 lawyer named Aaron? 14 States. 14 A. I know that they may have some such ા ર Q. Can you tell me their names as you 15 thing, but I cannot be sure. 16 best are able? 16 Q. Does an attorney named Aaron send you 17 MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. 17 bills for services he renders? 18 A. Well, the thing is like I don't really 18 A. I don't recall. I really don't 19 want to mistaken -- like, for example, the 19 recall. 20 president of the United States, Mr. Biden's name Q. Do you pay any bills to the attorney 20 21 as my counsel, as my lawyer. 21 whose first name is Aaron? I don't really want to make such A. Let me state that clearly, that you 22 22 23 kind of a mistake. It would be rather 23 see I am unable to answer this question is because 24 irresponsible for me to mistaking anybody's name, 24 I don't have a bank account, personal bank 25 and -- as my counsel. And I would rather just say 25 account. I don't make payments. So any payment

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| 1<br>A.<br>No. | 41<br>TECHNICIAN: OK, to the One Direct<br>1 | 43 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----| | 2<br>Q. Are you presently under investigation, | 2<br>link? Give me one moment. Yes, I see it. | | | 3<br>to the best of your knowledge, for tax fraud? | 3<br>I am downloading the file now. | | | 4<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On the advice of | Counsel, it's asking me for a<br>4 | | | 5<br>Mr. Guo's counsel, Mr. Guo declines to | 5<br>password. | | | respond to the question invoking his rights<br>6 | 6<br>MR. WOLMAN: Shoot, sorry about that. | | | 7<br>under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. | 7<br>Q. All right. Why don't we do this. | | | Constitution, as well as an objection to<br>8 | 8<br>Mr. Kwok, did you review the tax returns that were | | | 9<br>attorney/client privilege. Any | ರ<br>provided by your counsel to me in this case? | | | communications he might, my understanding,<br>10 | Yes.<br>10<br>A. | | | he might have about this is subject to<br>11 | 11<br>Q. Are you aware that it included certain | | | attorney/client privilege.<br>12 | 12 tax returns? | | | 13<br>MR. WOLMAN: How is acknowledging an | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>13 | | | investigation -- not whether or not he<br>14 | A. I don't recall.<br>14 | | | committed the crime -- self-incrimination?<br>ો ર | Q. Are you familiar with the accounting<br>ાં ર | | | MR. GAVENMAN: He is invoking the | 16 firm named Janover? | | | 16 | | | | Fifth Amendment is, as is his right to do<br>17 | A. I think that perhaps it is like a<br>17 | | | 18<br>SO. | 18 financial or accounting consulting firm, but I | | | 19<br>You can ask a different question | 19 cannot be sure. | | | if you like.<br>20 | Q. Do they prepare your New York State<br>20<br>21 and Federal income taxes? | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>21 | | | | Yes.<br>22<br>A. | Perhaps.<br>22<br>A. | | | Q. Have you had any income as that term<br>23<br>24 is used in the Internal Revenue Code within the | Q. Have you filed taxes for the year<br>23 | | | | 24 2020? | | | 25 last five years? | 25<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | | 42 | 44 | | MR. GAVENMAN: On the advice of<br>1 | Q. And who was the accountant who<br>1 | | | counsel, Mr. Guo's personal counsel,<br>2 | 2<br>prepared the tax returns? | | | Mr. Grow declines to respond to the question<br>3 | 3<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | | | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>4 | Q. When did you file these tax returns?<br>4 | | | 5<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | 5<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer the<br>6 | 6<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | | | question?<br>7 | 7<br>Q. Was it before or after March 25? | | | 8<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | | | I don't recall.<br>8<br>A. | | | 9<br>Q. How much income did you report to the | Q. Did you pay any taxes to New York<br>9 | | | 10 Internal Revenue Service in your tax return for | 10 State or the Federal government for the year 2020? | | | 11 the fiscal year 2019? | 11<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | | | MR. GAVENMAN: On the advice of<br>12 | 12<br>Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | | | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>13 | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>13 | | | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>14 | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>14 | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>ો ર | MR. WOLMAN: Whether or not he paid<br>ો ર | | | MR. WOLMAN: Jeff, you provided me<br>16 | 16<br>any taxes is already known to a third-party, | | | the tax return.<br>17 | the government.<br>17 | | | MR. GAVENMAN: That was a required<br>18 | MR. GAVENMAN: He is not going to<br>18 | | | record exception. That doesn't mean he can<br>19 | provide any testimony about it.<br>19 | | | answer a question about it.<br>20 | Q. Mr. Guo, are you refusing to answer?<br>20 | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>21 | Yes.<br>21<br>A. | | | Yes.<br>22<br>A. | 22<br>Q. When your tax returns are prepared, do | | | Just one second.<br>Q.<br>23 | 23 you provide your tax preparer all information | | | MR. WOLMAN: OK. Ms. Hooper. I just<br>24<br>up uploaded some documents in a zip file.<br>ટર્ર | 24 about your income?<br>25<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | |

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| વર્સ | 001100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | 47 | |----------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----| | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | information to the United States immigration | | | 2<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth | authorities in connection with your application | | | 3<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | 3<br>for asylum? | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer the<br>4 | 4<br>No.<br>A. | | | 5<br>question? | 5<br>Q. Are you familiar with law firm named | | | 6<br>Yes.<br>A. | Baker Hostetler?<br>6 | | | 7<br>Q. Have you received any communications | 7<br>A. I don't recall this name. I am very | | | from the New York State taxing authority regarding<br>8 | 8<br>confused with English names. | | | ರ<br>potential tax fraud? | ರ<br>Q. Are you aware of a lawsuit -- you | | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's<br>10 | 10 strike that. | | | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>11 | You mentioned the Pacific Alliance<br>11 | | | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>12 | 12 lawsuit previously, correct? | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, as well<br>13 | A. Yes.<br>13 | | | as attorney/client privilege as a separate<br>14 | 14<br>Q. Do you know who your attorneys are or | | | basis for objection.<br>ી ર | 15 the law firm is for that case? | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>16 | I don't recall.<br>A.<br>16 | | | A.<br>Yes.<br>17 | Q. Did you receive bills for services<br>17 | | | 18<br>Q. Have you received any communications | 18 rendered on your behalf in that case? | | | 19 from the United States Internal Revenue Service or | I don't recall.<br>19<br>A. | | | 20 the U.S. Department of Treasury or U.S. Department | Q. Are bills paid to whoever is<br>20 | | | 21 of Justice regarding potential tax fraud? | 21 representing you in that case? | | | MR. GAVENMAN: Once again, on advice<br>22 | A. Of course they should be paid.<br>22 | | | of Mr. Guo's counsel, Mr. Guo declines to<br>23 | 23<br>Who is paying those bills?<br>Q. | | | respond to the question invoking his rights<br>24 | Golden Spring.<br>24<br>A. | | | under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S.<br>25 | 25<br>Q. Does Baker & Hostetler or whatever law | | | 46 | | 48 | | 1<br>Constitution, and once again, another | firm is representing you in that case have a fee | | | 2<br>objection based on attorney/client | agreement with Golden Spring?<br>2 | | | 3<br>privilege. | 3<br>A. I don't recall. | | | 4<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | Q. Does any attorney representing you in<br>4 | | | 5<br>A.<br>Yes. | 5<br>this case have a fee agreement with Golden Spring? | | | 6<br>Q. In the past seven years have you | 6<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | | provided false information in a tax return to the<br>7 | Q. Why does Golden Spring pay your bills<br>7 | | | 8<br>United States or to the state of New York? | for representation in the Pacific Alliance<br>8 | | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's<br>9 | 9 lawsuit? | | | 10<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | 10<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | | | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>11 | 11<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>12 | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>12 | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>13 | | | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>13 | | | 14<br>A.<br>Yes. | A.<br>Yes.<br>14 | | | Q. In the past seven years, have you<br>ો ર | Q.<br>Are you refusing to answer?<br>ો ર | | | 16 knowingly provided any false information in a tax | 16<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | 17 return to the State of New York or the Internal | Q. Are you familiar with attorneys named<br>17 | | | 18 Revenue Service? | 18 Chris Rose or Silvestri? | | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>19 | I don't recall.<br>19<br>A. | | | 20 Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | Q. Do you recall the name of the attorney<br>20 | | | 21 invoking his rights under the Fifth | 21 who represented you prior to Mr. Gavenman in | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>22 | 22 Nevada? | | | 23<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | 23<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | | Yes.<br>24<br>A.<br>25<br>Q. Have you provided any false | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, did you<br>24<br>say something?<br>ટર્ટ | |

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| 49 | રી | |----------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------| | MR. GAVENMAN: I said objection to | Q. Where is Golden Spring New York | | 2 | 2 | | form. | getting the funds to pay your bills? | | 3<br>A. I don't recall the counsel's name. | 3<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | Q. Did you have a fee agreement with the | 4 | | 4 | Q. When Golden Spring makes payments on | | law firm that preceded Mr. Gavenman in the Nevada | 5 | | 5 | your behalf, how do you let Golden Spring know | | litigation? | that a payment needs to be made? | | 6 | 6 | | 7 | 7 | | A. What name again you said? | A. That is all arranged by Golden Spring. | | Q. Whichever law firm it was. | 8 | | 8 | Q. By whom at Golden Spring? | | I don't recall. | 9 | | 9 | Counselors, lawyers. | | A. | A. | | Q. Who paid the bills of the law firm | Q. Let me try to do it this way. Does | | 10 | 10 | | 11 representing you in the Nevada lawsuit against | 11 Mr. Gavenman send you a bill? | | 12 Mr. Cheng? | A. I never receive bills that counsel<br>12 | | A. Golden Spring.<br>13 | 13 sent to me. | | Q. Why did Golden Spring pay those bills? | Q. Where does he send the bills? | | 14 | 14 | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | A. Send to the lawyer in Golden Spring. | | । ਦ | 15 | | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | Q. So Mr. Gavenman's fee agreement -- | | 16 | 16 | | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>17 | 17 strike that. | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | So Mr. Gavenman's bills go directly to | | 18 | 18 | | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>19 | 19 Mr. Podhaskie? | | Yes. | I don't know. | | A. | 20 | | 20 | A. | | Q. What are the -- what is the income of | Q. How do you know Golden Spring is | | 21 | 21 | | 22 Golden Spring New York Limited? | 22 paying Mr. Gavenman? | | I don't know. | I don't know. | | 23 | 23 | | A. | A. | | Q. How does Golden Spring New York | Q. Did Golden Spring have any role in | | 24 | 24 | | 25 Limited generate revenue? | 25 deciding to sue Mr. Cheng? | | | | | నే) | રેટ | | 1<br>A.<br>I don't know. | MR. GAVENMAN: I caution you not to<br>1 | | 2 | 2 | | Q. What are the assets of Golden Spring | reveal any attorney/client communications in | | New York Limited? | 3 | | 3 | this answer. | | 4 | 4 | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | You can answer if you can. | | 5<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | 5<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | question invoking his rights under the Fifth | 6 | | 6 | Q. A judgment was issued against you in | | 7 | Nevada. How did you receive that judgment? | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | 7 | | MR. WOLMAN: Jeff -- Jeff, that's a | 8 | | 8 | A. I did not receive it. | | question about Golden Spring assets, that is | Q. Have you ever seen a copy of the | | 9 | ರಿ | | 10<br>not a party and, my understanding, is not | 10 judgment from the Nevada court against you? | | your client? How is there a Fifth Amendment<br>11 | No.<br>11<br>A. | | issue here? | Q. Did you ever receive anything in the | | 12 | 12 | | MR. GAVENMAN: There is a Fifth<br>13 | 13 mail from Randazza Legal Group sent to you at the | | Amendment issue so he is declining to<br>14 | 14 Sherry-Netherland? | | respond.<br>ો ર | 15<br>No.<br>A. | | MR. WOLMAN: How? | Q. Do you receive mail at the | | 16 | 16 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Jay, I can't answer<br>17 | 17 Sherry-Netherland? | | that question for you. That's the answer, | A. Yes, we can receive mail -- well, I | | 18 | 18 | | he is invoking his Fifth Amendment rights.<br>19 | 19 want counsel you understand this. You see mail | | He needs to not respond.<br>20 | 20 can be received. But the thing is I really cannot | | Q. Are you refusing to answer, Mr. Kwok?<br>21 | 21 read English and so I won't read anything in | | Yes.<br>22<br>A. | 22 English. I was not able to read anything in | | Q. Does Golden Spring New York Limited<br>23 | 23 English. | | 24 have any bank accounts? | So that mails could be received, but I<br>24 |

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| રે રે | રેરે | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | you put them in front of me today, I won't be able<br>to read them either. | 1 like a representative of Democratic parties and so | | 2 | on and so forth and wanting to come upstairs and | | 3<br>So I am saying that, yes, mails can be<br>received, but I, myself personally won't read them. | presenting sort of threats.<br>3<br>So therefore, nowadays in<br>4 | | 4<br>5<br>I myself personally did not receive them. | ഗ | | б<br>Who did? | Sherry-Netherland, that they know the security | | ().<br>7<br>Golden Spring. | 6 threats that posted, and so therefore, that they | | A.<br>Q. How does mail get from the<br>8 | were very careful about dealing with all kind of<br>8 documents and the source of documents and so that | | | | | Sherry-Netherland Hotel directed to you into the<br>9<br>10 hands of Golden Spring? | 9 would have special arrangement between them and | | A. I don't know.<br>11 | 10 Golden Spring legal team.<br>11 | | 12 | And so anyway, really, because it<br>12 is about this -- it's like a warfare nation is | | Q. Then how do you know Golden Spring is | | | 13 getting your mail? | 13 targeting me as an individual. | | A. It is because after receiving them,<br>14 | Q. So to be clear, before you look at any<br>14 - | | 15 the lawyer in Golden Spring, Daniel, would have | 15 piece of mail, someone at Golden Spring is reading | | 16 talked to me and told me they received the | 16 it first, correct?<br>A. Not necessarily. | | 17 whatever. And then they would need to get the | 17 | | 18 translator and translating those letters, so that<br>19 I would know about those letters. | Q. How is it then determined that you<br>18 | | | 19 need to have it, a piece of mail, translated for | | 20<br>Well, you see it will be -- you know | 20 you?<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | 21 that at the present time, there are 60 some lawsuits | 21<br>Q. Is everybody affiliated -- strike<br>22 | | 22 going on and they were involved because of the CCP's<br>23 threat against me, the Chinese Communist Party | 23 that. | | 24 threat against me, and they have done all these kind | Is everybody employed by Golden Spring<br>24 | | | | | | | | 25 of restricted warfare against me, threatening me. | 25 New York a lawyer? | | રત | 56 | | And so, you see, they sometimes | A.<br>No.<br>1 | | would send me things or letters probably with<br>2 | 2<br>Is Golden Spring New York a law firm?<br>O. | | toxins inside, threatening letters about my death<br>3 | 3<br>No.<br>A. | | 4<br>and about my -- anything that is threatening to my | 4<br>Q. So any time, for example, Mr. Gavenman | | 5<br>person. | 5<br>sends you a letter or a bill, Golden Spring gets | | 6<br>So that is why the things received would | it before you do?<br>6<br>A. | | 7<br>have to go through some security teams and security | 7<br>I cannot be sure. | | people to make sure that whether it has contained<br>8 | 8<br>Q. How would you find out? | | 9 any toxicity, whether it is any threatening letters, | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>9 | | 10 whether it should be reported to the police or | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, were you<br>10 | | 11 whether it should be dealt with by the legal people. | saying something?<br>11<br>12 | | 12 And then this if some needed for me to know, then<br>13 they have to go through the translations and all | MR. GAVENMAN: I just said objection<br>13<br>to form. | | 14 kind of protocols. So it is rather complicated. | But he can answer.<br>14 | | 15 | A. Because sometimes the people from<br>15 | | So because also, you see there<br>16 are times that there are documents of thousands of | | | 17 pages, documents sent to me from unknown part of | 16 Golden Spring would contact me or sometimes the<br>17 lawyer would contact me. | | 18 the world from I don't even know where, and those | Q. Who are the nonlawyers at Golden<br>18 | | 19 documents would have a lot of like threatening | 19 Spring who would contact you? | | 20 language, sometimes contain perhaps innuendoes and | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>20 | | 21 implications and so on and so forth. | I cannot recall.<br>21<br>A. | | And sometimes they would have<br>22 | Q. Is Golden Spring New York at all<br>22 | | 23 pretty girls downstairs at the lobby and claiming | 23 funded by the Chinese Communist Party? | | 24 that they have documents for me and sometimes | Of course not.<br>24<br>A. |

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| Conducted on April 1, 2021 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | રે તે | રતે | | anyone in the People's Republic of China? | wanted to take a quick break, but I just have a | | 2<br>I don't know.<br>A. | couple of questions before we do that. | | 3<br>Q. How were you able to answer with | 3<br>A. G-E-T -- T-E-E-R, yes. | | certainty that the Chinese Communist Party does<br>4 | Q. What is that device you were holding<br>4 | | not fund it when you previously testified that you<br>5 | 5<br>in your hand just a moment ago? | | do not know its income sources?<br>6 | 6<br>My cell phone.<br>A. | | 7<br>A. Well, you see that based on what I | 7<br>And what kind of cell phone is it?<br>0. | | know is that Golden Spring had been on the list of<br>8 | Apple.<br>8<br>A. | | 9 the at risk entity made by the Communist Party and | And when did you -- when was it<br>9<br>Q. | | 10 also as I know that Golden Spring sometimes will | 10 purchased? | | 11 be rejected by bank for having a bank account with | One week ago.<br>11<br>A. | | 12 the bank. | And who purchased it?<br>12<br>Q. | | And as far as I know, that I,<br>13 | I don't know.<br>13<br>A. | | 14 myself and Golden Spring was also being listed by | Q. How did it get in your hands?<br>14 | | 15 the Chinese Communist Party as a number 1 national | It's in the office.<br>15<br>A. | | 16 enemy. And there are lots of employees in the | Q. Some unknown person left it for you in<br>16 | | 17 Golden Spring disappeared and arrested in China, a | 17 an office, is that what you are saying? | | 18 lot of videos of such have been circulated online | A. Well, I don't know who actually got<br>18 | | 19 and that is really a very basic knowledge to | 19 it. | | 20 everyone. | What happened was I told the<br>20 | | Q. Can you please name the employees of<br>21 | 21 lawyer, I said my phone was hacked again because | | 22 Golden Spring that you state were arrested or | 22 you see my phone always gets hacked, nearly every | | 23 disappeared? | 23 week was hacked. | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>24 | So I said my phone was hacked and<br>24 | | | | | A. At this point, I actually don't recall<br>25 | 25 so I need to have a new phone. | | રેક | 60 | | 1 their names, but then there are lots of such | Who paid for the phone?<br>Q. | | 2 videos and information circulated online. You can | 2<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | just have a search for it.<br>3 | Q. Does it have a cellular data plan?<br>3 | | Q. You previously testified that you made<br>4 | 4<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | a video this morning and uploaded it. On what<br>5 | Q. In whose name does the cellular data<br>5 | | system did you upload it?<br>6 | plan exist?<br>6 | | GTV Geteer.<br>7<br>A. | I don't know.<br>7<br>A. | | 8<br>THE REPORTER: Can you spell that? | 8<br>Q. Can you show the home screen right | | THE WITNESS: I don't know how to<br>9 | 9 now? On camera? | | spell that. I can only tell you the Chinese<br>10 | (Witness complies)<br>10<br>A. | | name is GTV Geteer.<br>11 | Turn it around.<br>11<br>Q. | | 12<br>THE REPORTER: Geteer, just | 12<br>And can you unlock it so we can | | confirming.<br>13 | | | 14<br>THE INTERPRETER: I don't know. I am | 13 see the data carrier? Can you hold that up to the | | ો ર | 14 camera? Closer. Can you get within inches of it, | | actually --<br>16 | 15 please?<br>16 | | A. Hold own. Let me check, do you want<br>17 me to find out the name? | MR. GAVENMAN: What is the possible<br>relevance of what's on his home screen? I<br>17 | | 18<br>Sure.<br>Q. | actually really object to this. What are we<br>18 | | 19 | 19 | | A. Because I don't have anything in here, | doing with his personal home screen and his<br>20 | | 20 so I just really need to -- note paper, nothing, | phone? There is no reason he has to be<br>21 | | 21 so I just need to go and check. G-E-T-E-R.<br>Q. So that's the name, GTV Geteer,<br>22 | showing his personal home screen on his<br>22 | | 23 G-E-T-E-E-R? | telephone.<br>23 | | OK.<br>A.<br>24 | MR. WOLMAN: I'm looking to see who<br>the carrier is.<br>24 |

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| | 61 | | | | 63 | |----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------|--------------|-----------------------------------------------------|----| | 1 | OK, I can't read it. In the | 1 | phone? | | | | 2 | upper left corner, what are the letters? | 2 | A. | I don't know. | | | 3 | No letters.<br>A. | 3 | | Q. Do you text anyone from that phone? | | | 4 | Q. Does it say "AT&T" or "Verizon" or -- | 4 | A. | No, I don't know. | | | 5 | No.<br>A. | 5 | | Q. Do you call anyone from that phone? | | | 6 | -- T-Mobile?<br>Q. | 6 | A. | I don't know. | | | 7 | No.<br>A. | 7 | | Q. Does anybody call you on that phone? | | | 8 | Q. I'm going to ask that you do a screen | 8 | A. | I don't know. | | | 9 | capture of the home screen. | 9 | | Q. Without revealing the contents of any | | | 10 | MR. GAVENMAN: No, no, we are not | | | 10 conversation, have you spoken to Mr. Gavenman on | | | 11 | doing that. We are not doing that. Come | 11 the phone? | | | | | 12 | on. | 12 | | A. No. | | | 13 | This is ridiculous. He doesn't need | 13 | | Q. Prior to today, have you ever spoken | | | 14 | to do a screen capture of his personal cell | | | 14 with Mr. Gavenman? | | | ] ર | phone screen. That's just -- we are not | 15 | A. | I don't recall. | | | 16 | doing that. | 16 | | Q. Did you go down to Baltimore to meet | | | 17 | MR. WOLMAN: Jeff, he brought it to a | | | 17 with Mr. Gavenman? | | | 18 | deposition. | 18 | A. | No. | | | 19 | MR. GAVENMAN: You had him get it for | 19 | | Q. Did Mr. Gavenman come up to New York | | | 20 | his deposition. He is not looking at it | | | 20 to meet with you? | | | 21 | other than to tell you one name of an app or | 21 | A. | No. | | | 22 | whatever that was. | 22 | | Q. How do you communicate with | | | 23 | He is not doing a screen capture | | | 23 Mr. Gavenman? | | | 24 | and sending it to you. It's not | 24 | A. | I don't recall. | | | 25 | happening. | 25 | | Q. Did you prepare for this deposition -- | | | | 62 | | | | 64 | | | | | | | | | 1 | Q. What is the phone number that someone | 1 | strike that. | | | | 2 | could use to call you on that phone? | 2 | | Did Mr. Gavenman assist you in | | | 3 | MR. GAVENMAN: That's another thing | 3 | | preparing for this deposition? | | | 4 | I'm going to object to. He doesn't have to | 4 | A. | Yes. | | | 5 | answer that. | 5 | | Q. Without revealing the contents of any | | | 6 | There is no reason he has to give | 6 | | of that preparation, did you meet in person? | | | 7 | his personal cell phone number on this | 7 | A. | No. | | | 8 | transcript. There is no possible | 8 | | Q. Through what means did you communicate | | | 9 | reason. It is harassing. There is no | ರ | | with Mr. Gavenman? | | | 10 | reason for this. Let's move on to | 10 | | A. I don't know what kind of a form that | | | 11 | relevant questions. | 11 was. | | | | | 12 | It has been two hours and 15 | 12 | | Q. Did you have a phone call with him? | | | 13 | minutes of a marathon session and you | 13 | A. | No. | | | 14 | haven't gotten to relevant questions | 14 | 0. | Did you have a video meeting like this | | | ાં ર | yet. | 15 with them? | | | | | 16 | Q. Please answer the question. | 16 | A. | Yes. | | | 17 | MR. GAVENMAN: You don't have to | 17 | Q. | And how did you get the link? | | | 18 | answer what your current personal cell phone | 18 | | A. Arranged by the lawyer. | | | 19 | is. | 19 | | Q. How was it transmitted to you? | | | 20 | MR. WOLMAN: I'm allowed to find out | 20 | | A. I went into the room and the | | | 21 | who is paying the bill for his personal cell | | | 21 connection was made. | | | 22 | phone as you represented. | 22 | | Q. How did you know the URL to connect? | | | 23 | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, what | 23 | | A. I don't know about the URL. It was | | | 24<br>25 | question should I be interpreting?<br>Q. What is the phone number for that | 25 Spring. | | 24 all connected by the lawyers and the Golden | |

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| ર્ણ્ટ<br>Q. For today's deposition, how did you | In connection with your | 67 | |---------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----| | 2<br>obtain the URL on the device you were using to | 2<br>application for asylum, did you state that you or | | | 3<br>broadcast today? | any member of your family committed any crime in<br>3 | | | 4<br>A. It was arranged by the lawyer in | the United States?<br>4 | | | 5 | 5<br>No.<br>A. | | | Golden Spring. | | | | 6<br>Q. Was the lawyer at Golden Spring<br>7 | 6<br>Q. When did you apply for asylum?<br>7 | | | literally in that room this morning at | September 2017.<br>A. | | | 8<br>approximately 10 a.m.? | 8<br>Q. Prior to September 2017, did you | | | 9<br>A. Well, when I stepped into the room, | submit any false information knowingly in<br>9 | | | 10 the room was already empty and everything is | 10 connection with a tax return to the Federal | | | 11 already connected. It's ready. I don't -- I did | 11 government or New York State'? | | | 12 not see anyone. | MR. GAVENMAN: On the advice of<br>12 | | | 13<br>Q. Who literally pressed on the link to | Mr. Guo's counsel, Mr. Guo declines to<br>13 | | | 14 connect? | respond to the question invoking his Fifth<br>14 | | | A. So I pressed the link and then I went<br>15 | Amendment rights under the U.S.<br>ો ર | | | 16 in. | Constitution.<br>16 | | | 17<br>Q. And how did the link get on to the | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>17 | | | 18 device that you pressed? | Yes.<br>18<br>A. | | | I don't know.<br>19<br>A. | Q. In connection with your application<br>19 | | | 20<br>Q. Does your phone have an e-mail account | 20 for asylum, did you invoke your rights under the | | | 2.1 associated with it? | 21 Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? | | | A. I don't have e-mail.<br>22 | A. I don't understand your question.<br>22 | | | 23<br>Q. Have you ever had an e-mail account? | Q. With respect to your application for<br>23 | | | A. Ihave never used e-mail ever since at<br>24 | 24 asylum, did you claim the protection of the Fifth | | | 25 school. Even though the Chinese Communist Party | 25 Amendment as you are doing now? | | | | | | | 66 | | 68 | | 1 fabricated the information that I have lots of | A. Istill don't understand that<br>1 | | | 2 e-mail addresses, I actually have not one. I have | 2<br>question. | | | 3<br>never used e-mail ever. | 3<br>Q. Did you refuse to answer any questions | | | 4<br>Q. So are you saying that there is no | on your application for asylum on the grounds that<br>4 | | | 5<br>e-mail account associated with the video upload | 5<br>it would incriminate you in a crime? | | | 6<br>service you used this morning? | 6<br>A. I still don't understand the question. | | | 7<br>That's correct.<br>A. | 7<br>Q. Did you refuse to answer any questions | | | 8<br>Q. Why don't we take a break. | on your asylum application?<br>8 | | | (Recess; 12:22 p.m. to 12:45 p.m.)<br>9 | 9<br>A. Istill don't understand that | | | 10<br>Q. Mr. Kwok, previously you testified | 10 question. | | | 11 that everything that -- your application for | Q. Did you apply for asylum?<br>11 | | | 12 asylum I guess was accurate, correct? | 12<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | 13<br>Yes.<br>A. | 13<br>Q.<br>Were there questions? | | | Q. Do you recall filling out a form I589?<br>14 | Yes.<br>14<br>A. | | | A. No, I don't recall.<br>। ਦ | Q.<br>Did you answer all those questions?<br>ો ર | | | Q. Do you recall a question on an<br>16 | 16<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | 17 application for an asylum that states, "Have you | Did you refuse to provide any<br>Q.<br>17 | | | 18 or any member of your family included in the | 18 information in answering those questions? | | | 19 application ever committed any crime and/or been | 19<br>A. I don't understand. | | | 20 arrested, charged, convicted or sentenced for any | Q. Did you give all of the information<br>20 | | | 21 crimes in the United States, including for an | 21 that was requested on your application for asylum? | | | | 22 | | | 22 immigration law violation?"<br>23<br>A.<br>I don't recall. | MR. GAVENMAN: I'm going to caution<br>23 | | | 24 | you not to reveal any attorney/client<br>24 | | | Q. Then let me ask you, have you or --<br>25 strike that. | communications that may have informed your<br>understanding of what the application<br>ટર્ર | |

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| હતે | | 71 | |-------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------|----| | required or what you provided.<br>l | objection. That didn't fix the issue at | | | 2<br>A. Yes. Yes, I answered yes. | all. The only way to have any knowledge or | | | 3<br>Q. Do you know if you have a particular | understanding about what he is required to<br>3 | | | obligation to update the information provided in<br>4 | provide --<br>4 | | | connection with your asylum application?<br>5 | 5<br>MR. WOLMAN: That is false, that is | | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection, objection.<br>6 | false. What he knows is what he knows.<br>6 | | | 7<br>The only way he would have any understanding | 7<br>MR. GAVENMAN: How would he know it, | | | 8<br>of that is through attorney/client | 8 Jay? How would he understand what the U.S. | | | 9<br>communications. He can't answer that | law requires? Come on.<br>9 | | | without attorney/client communications.<br>10 | MR. WOLMAN: How would he know. So<br>10 | | | MR. WOLMAN: I entirely disagree with<br>11 | 11 you are saying immigrants have no obligation | | | that assessment.<br>12 | 12 to know the law? | | | Q. Are you refusing to answer that<br>13 | MR. GAVENMAN: He would have an<br>13 | | | 14 question on the advice of counsel? | 14 understanding from counsel about what the | | | Yes.<br>15<br>A. | 15 law requires. | | | Q. Have you ever provided updated<br>16 | MR. WOLMAN: We haven't even<br>16 | | | 17 information to the U.S. Government in connection | 17 established that he used an attorney. | | | 18 with your application for asylum? | MR. GAVENMAN: You know he was<br>18 | | | 19<br>MR. GAVENMAN: And this -- I'm going | 19 represented by an attorney. | | | to caution you not to reveal any<br>20 | Counsel, let's ask a more<br>20 | | | attorney/client communications.<br>21 | 21 fundamental question, what in the world | | | To the extent you can answer, you<br>22 | 22 are you talking about his immigration | | | can, but please don't reveal<br>23 | 23 application, his asylum application? | | | attorney/client communications.<br>24 | MR. WOLMAN: Mark, quiet.<br>24 | | | 25<br>MR. WOLMAN: Jeff, I'm asking what he | MR. GAVENMAN: Mark, do you want to<br>25 | | | | | | | 70 | | 72 | | gave. Don't coach your witness.<br>l | appear in New York -- | | | 2<br>MR. GAVENMAN: That's not coaching my | MR. RANDAZZA: No.<br>2 | | | 3<br>witness. You asked if there was ever a | 3<br>MR. GAVENMAN: And get some | | | 4<br>supplement. You don't know if it is on his | out-of-your-jurisdiction practice, go ahead.<br>4 | | | 5<br>behalf, what he did. | This asylum application has no<br>5 | | | 6<br>I said don't reveal any | relevance to this proceeding whatsoever. I<br>6 | | | 7<br>attorney/client communications and | don't know why you're asking about it and<br>7 | | | 8<br>that's it. That's the instruction. | I'm getting close to instructing the witness<br>8 | | | 9<br>It's not anything obstructive. it's | not to answer any more questions about it.<br>ರ | | | just informing the witness not to reveal<br>10 | This is completely outside of the<br>10 | | | anything attorney/client --<br>11 | scope of these deposition, you have<br>11 | | | Just answer the question.<br>12<br>Q. | asked questions about it for several<br>12 | | | I don't recall.<br>A.<br>13 | minutes now. You know --<br>13 | | | Q. Have you withheld any information from<br>14 | (Simultaneous crosstalk)<br>14 | | | 15 U.S. immigration authorities that you were | MR. WOLMAN: Stop coaching.<br>ાં ર | | | 16 required to provide? | 16<br>MR. GAVENMAN: It's not coaching, | | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection. The only<br>17 | that's an objection based on privilege.<br>17 | | | way he would have any understanding of what<br>18 | That's not coaching.<br>18 | | | he was required to provide is through<br>19 | 19 BY MR. WOLMAN: | | | counsel.<br>20 | 20<br>Q. Mr. Guo, answer the question. | | | MR. WOLMAN: I will rephrase.<br>21 | 21<br>MR. GAVENMAN: You know he was | | | Q. Mr. Guo, have you knowingly withheld<br>22 | represented by counsel in that proceeding.<br>22 | | | 23 any information you are required to provide with | You know he is getting advice from counsel<br>23 | | | 24 the immigration -- | what the requirements are. You are starting<br>24 | |

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| 73 | | 75 | |------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----| | 1<br>attorney/client communications like you're | 1<br>willy-nilly basis when sometimes you are | | | 2<br>not supposed to. | 2<br>going to testify about the crimes you did or | | | 3<br>BY MR. WOLMAN: | 3<br>did not commit and then say no, Fifth | | | 4<br>Q. Mr. Guo, answer the question. | Amendment?<br>4 | | | MR. GAVENMAN: Don't answer the<br>5 | 5<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Strike the answer, he | | | 6<br>question. There is an attorney/client | 6<br>is invoking the Fifth Amendment. We are not | | | 7<br>objection. He can't answer the question | 7<br>addressing any bit of his income or taxes or | | | 8<br>without attorney/client communications. | 8<br>anything like that. | | | 9<br>MR. WOLMAN: That is false. | 9<br>MR. WOLMAN: I'm not agreeing to | | | 10 BY MR. WOLMAN: | strike anything. Thank you.<br>10 | | | Q. Answer the question?<br>11 | Q. Mr. Kwok, are you refusing to answer<br>11 | | | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, I don't<br>12 | 12 the question? | | | know if I interpreted that question or not.<br>13 | A. I don't. I don't have. Very simple<br>13 | | | Do you mind to repeat that<br>14 | 14 answer. I don't. | | | question?<br>ાં ર | ાં ર<br>Q. Do you have any assets? | | | Q. Have you knowingly withheld any<br>16 | MR. GAVENMAN: On the advice of<br>16 | | | 17 information that you were required to provide U.S. | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>17 | | | 18 immigration authorities? | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>18 | | | 19<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Same objection. | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>19 | | | 20<br>A. I don't understand this question | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>20 | | | 21 actually. | 21<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | Q. Have you told U.S. immigration<br>22 | 22<br>Q. Do you own the clothes you are | | | 23 authorities whether or not you have committed tax | 23 wearing? | | | 24 fraud? | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of his<br>24 | | | 25 A. A. No. But I have never committed any | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>25 | | | | | | | 74 | | 76 | | tax fraud. So why would he I need to tell them<br>1 | 1<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth | | | 2<br>that. | 2<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | | 3<br>Q. If you have not committed tax fraud, | 3<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | | | are all of your income tax returns that you've<br>4 | Yes.<br>4<br>A. | | | submitted to the U.S. Government in the State of<br>5 | 5<br>Q. I see that you're drinking something | | | 6<br>New York accurate? | in a tea glass. Who paid for the contents?<br>6 | | | 7<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On the advice of | 7<br>A. Golden Spring. | | | 8<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | 8<br>Q. Does Golden Spring buy your groceries? | | | 9<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth | 9<br>Sometimes, yes.<br>A. | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>10 | 10<br>Q. Why does Golden Spring pay for your | | | MR. WOLMAN: Mr. Guo just told us<br>11 | 11 groceries? | | | that he never committed tax fraud.<br>12 | 12<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | | | MR. GAVENMAN: Understood. He is not<br>13 | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the<br>13 | | | going to testify about it.<br>14 | question invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>14 | | | MR. WOLMAN: He just did.<br>ો ર | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>ો ર | | | MR. GAVENMAN: He is not going to<br>16 | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>16 | | | testify anymore about it.<br>17 | A.<br>Yes.<br>17 | | | MR. WOLMAN: This is not a piecemeal<br>18 | Who pays for your clothes?<br>Q.<br>18 | | | thing. You are either accepting the<br>19 | Golden Spring.<br>19<br>A. | | | protections of the Fifth Amendment or you<br>20 | Why does Golden Spring pay for your<br>20<br>Q. | | | are not.<br>21 | 21 clothes? | | | MR. GAVENMAN: We are certainly<br>22 | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>22 | | | 23<br>invoking the protections of the Fifth | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question<br>23 | | | Amendment.<br>24<br>25<br>MR. WOLMAN: You can't do it on a | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>24<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>25 | |

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| 77 | 79 | |----------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | Are you refusing to answer?<br>O. | Please, please.<br>(). | | 2<br>Yes.<br>A. | 2<br>A. (In English) I no stop, that is my | | 3<br>Are you, remind me, at the<br>Q. | 3<br>power. | | Sherry-Netherland residence right now?<br>4 | MR. WOLMAN: We are calling the court<br>4 | | 5<br>Yes.<br>A. | 5<br>right now. | | 6<br>Q.<br>Does anybody live with you? | 6<br>The contact information is -- | | 7<br>A. Sometimes my family will be here. | 7<br>this deposition is paused for right now. | | 8<br>Are you married?<br>Q. | 8<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Miles, you can go off | | 9<br>Yes.<br>A. | mute, go off camera. I will be joining the<br>の | | 10<br>Q. Where does your wife live? | court line momentarily.<br>10 | | She lives in her place.<br>11<br>A. | (Counsel agree to go off the<br>11 | | 12<br>Q.<br>Where is that? | record.)<br>12 | | A. I can't tell you her information.<br>13 | (Recess; 1:09 p.m. to 1:39 p.m.)<br>13 | | 14 That is about her. | MR. WOLMAN: We just had a conference<br>14 | | Why not?<br>ો ર<br>(). | with the judge in which it was indicated<br>ો ર | | A. Well, it is because the question that<br>16 | that there would be submissions with<br>16 | | 17 you are asking exactly what the CCP wanted to ask | regarding the invocation of the Fifth<br>17 | | 18 and you representing Cheng Shuiyan's case and that | Amendment privilege as has been done here<br>18 | | 19 is because you are a hooligan counsel representing | today. And that if the judge finds that it<br>19 | | 20 the CCP and all the questions you are asking were | has been overbroad, that I would be<br>20 | | 21 irrelevant to the case, but threatening to the | permitted to ask questions regarding assets<br>21 | | 22 life -- the safety of my wife and that is exactly | at a separate continued deposition date.<br>22 | | 23 what the information that -- what the CCP wanted | And so what we are going to do right<br>23 | | 24 to know. So I can't tell you that. | now is move beyond some asset-related<br>24 | | Well, it is because you see also in the<br>25 | 25<br>inquiry and move back to some other | | 78 | 80 | | past, all this time that it was CCP, I am CCP's | 1<br>questions. | | 2 number one enemy, and all this time that there were | 2<br>THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, let me | | 3 so many cases, such as like the Department of | 3<br>interpret that part first. | | 4 Justice, Higginbotham being bribed, and Elliott | Q. You indicated that your wife does not<br>4 | | 5 Broidy being bribed, and they were also like trying | 5<br>live with you. Do you have any children? | | 6 to kidnap me or arrest me or hurting me, and then | 6<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | trying to suss out all the information about me and<br>7 | 7<br>You can answer. | | 8<br>my wife. | 8<br>A. A son and a daughter. | | 9<br>And then, in fact, the questions | ರ<br>Q. What are their names? | | 10 that you are asking me were exactly what the CCP | 10<br>Guo Quiang, Guo Mei.<br>A. | | 11 wanted to know all the time online and getting | | | | | | | 11<br>(Reporter clarification) | | 12 people to try to find out this information. | Q. Do either of your children live with<br>12 | | So -- and you did not talk anything<br>13 | 13 you? | | 14 about the case that is involving Cheng Shuiyan. And | 14<br>No.<br>A. | | 15 all this time you were just helping the CCP, sussing | ાં ર<br>Are they over 18?<br>Q. | | 16 out my information and trying to hurt me and trying | Yes.<br>16<br>A. | | 17 to harm me. | Q. Have you discussed your litigation,<br>17 | | And so for the safety sake, that<br>18 | 18 either in Nevada or this case with Mr. Cheng, with | | 19 is the least I can do to protect my family, I am | 19 either of your children? | | 20 not answer your question. In fact, you are not | A. No.<br>20 | | 21 even a hooligan counsel, lawyer -- | 21<br>Q. Have you discussed this case or the | | Q. Thank you, stop. Please, stop,<br>22 | 22 underlying Nevada case with anyone else other than | | 23 please. You are pausing. | 23 your attorneys? | | A. (In English ) I don't stop. I don't<br>24<br>25 stop. | 24<br>A. No.<br>25<br>Q. Is there anybody in the |

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| | Conducted on April 1, 2021 | |------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 81 | 83 | | Sherry-Netherland residence with you right now? | that our -- we are strategic partners.<br>1 | | 2 | 2 | | A. The hotel security and then also the | Q. How were you strategic partners? | | 3 | 3 | | cleaning people, cleaning team of the building. | A. Well, we are partners in having the | | 4 | common goal of eliminating the Chinese Communist | | Q. I'm assuming you have not discussed | 4 | | 5 | 5 | | this case with any of them, correct? | Party and telling the truth to the west. | | 6 | 6 | | A. Yes. That's correct. | Q. Sorry, do you have a formal business | | 7 | 7 | | Q. And I apologize for this question, but | relationship with Mr. Bannon? | | 8 | 8 | | do you have a girlfriend or boyfriend with whom | A. No. | | 9 | Q. Do you still communicate with | | you may have discussed this case? | 9 | | A.<br>No.<br>10 | 10 Mr. Bannon? | | 11 | MR. GAVENMAN: What possible | | Q. OK. Now, do you also -- it is my | 11 | | 12 understanding you also lived on a boat this | relevance does any of this have --<br>12 | | 13 summer? | A. Yes.<br>13 | | 14 | MR. GAVENMAN: This is so far afield | | A. Yes. | 14 | | Q. Did anybody live on the boat with you? | to anything relevant to this case. I've let | | । ર | ો ર | | A. Yeah, there were many. Like there are | a whole bunch of questions go here, but you | | 16 | 16 | | 17 eight or nine crews. | can't possibly tell me there is some reason<br>17 | | Q. Only crew members lived on the boat? | to ask these questions other than some | | 18 | 18 | | A. Well, there were guests, there were | harassing purpose. | | 19 | 19 | | 20 guests of the owner. So sometimes they were -- | If you have another purpose, we<br>20 | | 21 and they were there -- too. I don't know. | can discuss it, but there is no way this<br>21 | | 22 | 22 | | (Audio issue; reporter | is relevant to the case. | | 23 | 23 | | clarification) | Q. Are you still in communication with | | THE INTERPRETER: OK, I'm done.<br>24 | 24 Mr. Bannon? | | 25 | A. Yes, we are still in communication, | | Q. Who were these guests? | 25 | | 82 | 84 | | A. Well, I am not the owner of the boat. | 1 | | 1 | yes. | | So I can't -- I'm unable to answer that.<br>2 | 2<br>How are you in communication?<br>Q. | | 3<br>Q. Did Steve Bannon live on the boat this | 3<br>Phone calls.<br>A. | | 4 | 4 | | past summer? | Q. Do you call him or does he call you? | | 5 | 5 | | A. For a period of time. | MR. GAVENMAN: Unless you agree with | | 6 | the representation -- we can go off the | | Q. So you remember one person. Who else | 6 | | 7 | record -- how any of this is possibly | | can you now remember? | 7 | | A. Others. | 8 | | 8 | relevant? You are just harassing the | | Who were these others?<br>9<br>Q. | 9<br>witness. I will be happy to talk off line | | I don't recall.<br>10<br>A. | if there is any sort of basis why this is<br>10 | | 11 | relevant, OK, we can proceed. | | Q. Why are you able to now recall | 11 | | 12 Mr. Bannon and not the others? | But you are just harassing him<br>12 | | I don't recall.<br>A.<br>13 | for things that are completely<br>13 | | Q. Did you discuss your litigation with | irrelevant. You have been doing that | | 14 | 14 | | 15 Mr. Cheng with Mr. Bannon? | for most of the deposition. What<br>ો રે | | A. I don't recall. | does -- how he calls or doesn't call | | 16 | 16 | | 17 | Steve Bannon have anything to do with | | Q. If we were to ask Mr. Bannon, would he | 17 | | 18 have any information about your lawsuits with | this case? Come on.<br>18 | | 19 Mr. Cheng? | 19<br>MR. WOLMAN: Actually, you may not | | A.<br>I don't know.<br>20 | recall but your client testified that he<br>20 | | 21 | doesn't take phone calls. So now he just | | Q. What is your relationship with | 21 | | 22 Mr. Bannon? | did.<br>22 | | 23 | 23 | | A. Well, we had the common goal of | MR. GAVENMAN: He didn't testify that | | 24 eliminating the Chinese Communist Party and let | he doesn't take phone calls. He didn't<br>24 | | 25 the public know about the truth of the virus. And | testify that he doesn't take phone calls.<br>ટર |

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| ૪૨ | | 87 | |---------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------|----| | MR. WOLMAN: I'm exploring the prior | and also it is a kind of a threat to, | | | testimony.<br>2 | 2<br>like I said, the third-party who are | | | 3<br>MR. GAVENMAN: That's not what he | 3<br>irrelevant to this case such as my | | | said. That's not what he said and we are<br>4 | 4<br>children, my son, my daughter, my family | | | talking about Steve Bannon, his relationship<br>5 | 5<br>and my friend. | | | 6<br>with Steve Bannon. You are trying to find | You see a lot of such deposition<br>6 | | | out whether he takes phone calls? That's<br>7 | 7<br>information will be posted online | | | 8 the point of it? That's what you are doing? | 8<br>subsequently and posing great threat to | | | You can ask that question.<br>ರ | ರ<br>their safety and, in fact, that has been | | | But his relationship with Steve<br>10 | 10 done a lot by Cheng Shuiyan himself. | | | 11 Bannon and his partnership, things like | 11<br>So if afterward, any of this | | | 12 that -- that's what you have been | 12 information is going to be posted online | | | 13 asking, which is not about phone calls, | 13 about, for example, my clothes, my way | | | 14 you haven't made a representation why | 14 of life and then my family, my friends, | | | 15 this is relevant so if you want to ask a | 15 it's really a form of serious threat to | | | 16 question about phone calls, go right | 16 the safety of the irrelevant third-party | | | 17 ahead. But don't mischaracterizes | 17 to this case. | | | 18 testimony. And you can ask that | And I strongly request a phone<br>18 | | | 19 question. That's enough with Steve | 19 call to the judge to let him know or her | | | 20 Bannon. It this has no possible | 20 know that this is a threat to me and my | | | 21 relevance. | 21 friend. | | | MR. WOLMAN: I thought you said we<br>22 | And the thing also that you see,<br>22 | | | 23 weren't doing speaking objections. | 23 the questions surrounding my clothes, my | | | MR. GAVENMAN: I said I would be<br>24 | 24 way of life, my wife, my son, my | | | 25 happy to go off the record. As I said that, | 25 daughter and Mr. Bannon, this is really | | | 86 | | 88 | | you went forward to not going off the | the circle of my life and this is the | | | 2 record. I responded to what you said. I | 2<br>map, the entire map of my life. And to | | | welcome going off the record?<br>3 | 3<br>my safety, if you can go online to | | | THE WITNESS: Hold on. We are --<br>4 | check, that is exactly the questions the<br>ব | | | 5<br>hang on. May I actually make a | line of information the CCP always<br>5 | | | recommendation, suggestion to my counsel,<br>6 | trying to describe and depict and<br>6 | | | 7<br>Jeff? | 7<br>collect. | | | 8<br>MR. GAVENMAN: OK. | 8<br>So with this line of questions, | | | THE WITNESS: Actually, I want to<br>ರ | 9 to me, it is a seriously exposing my | | | 10 tell you that I am seriously uncomfortable, | 10 person to great danger and great threat. | | | 11 uneasy because I feel like the questions | 11 That is why I feel like this kind of | | | 12 they are posing to me has not been relevant | 12 question, the line of question is | | | 13 to the case of Cheng Shuiyan and it is | 13 actually bearing malice and I wish to | | | 14 really that the questions were asked of me | 14 make this known to the judge and I wish | | | 15 were about my friends, my family, and it is | 15 my counsel would help me to contact the | | | 16 something that the Chinese Communist Party's | 16 judge and let them know that. | | | 17 line of questions. | MR. GAVENMAN: And I agree. And I<br>17 | | | So I am feeling uneasy and<br>18 | 18 think we have gone to the line of | | | 19 uncomfortable because I feel like it is | 19 harassment. Any questions about Bannon, it | | | 20 already posing threat to my own safety and | 20 is really not relevant, who is living on the | | | 21 the safety of my friends and family. | 21 boat, it's really not relevant. | | | Is it possible to actually even<br>22 | You represented to the judge we<br>22 | | | 23 call the judge about that to tell them | 23 would move on to the Nevada litigation. | | | 24 that I am very uneasy about that? | 24 If you don't, if you keep on this line | | | So it is a kind of abuse to me<br>25 | 25 of questioning, I will go to the judge | |

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| 89 | | |---------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | | 91<br>I don't recall. | | and go right back to her.<br>1 | 1<br>A. | | 2<br>This is completely irrelevant. | 2<br>Q. Have you ever been employed in the | | 3<br>you know it. You told the junk we would | 3<br>United States? | | 4<br>go to the Nevada litigation, let's go to | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>4 | | 5<br>that please. | 5<br>Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | | 6<br>MR. WOLMAN: Can the reporter read | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>6 | | 7<br>back my last question. | 7<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | 8<br>(Record read) | 8<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | | 9<br>MR. WOLMAN: Thank you. | 0<br>Yes.<br>A. | | 10<br>Q. Mr. Kwok, do you call Mr. Bannon or | Q. You said you met Mr. Cheng once. When<br>10 | | 11 does he call you? | 11 was that? | | A. I don't recall.<br>12 | A. It will be around October 2017.<br>12 | | 13<br>Q. What device do you use for these | Q. And what were the circumstances of<br>13 | | 14 telephone calls? | 14 that meeting? | | A. I don't recall.<br>15 | A. So it was at the time that, in fact,<br>15 | | Q. Do you call him from the phone that<br>16 | 16 that there were a number of people also present | | 17 you showed us earlier? | 17 including his personal employee at the time, Lude | | 18<br>No.<br>A. | 18 Wang Ding Gang, and then other people name Yang | | 19<br>Q. What is your highest level of | 19 Jian Li and the Han Lian Chao. | | 20 education? | We all met in Washington DC at K<br>20 | | Middle school.<br>21<br>A. | 21 Hamlet Hotel and he wanted to -- wanted me to sign | | 22<br>Q. When was the last time you held a job? | 22 and to support his anti-Chinese Communist Party | | 23<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | 23 campaign and he told me that he respected my | | Q. What was your last paid employment<br>24 | 24 effort and that he showed his encouragement to my | | 25 job? | 25 anti-CCP activities and -- and then also he asked | | 90 | 92 | | 1<br>MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | 1<br>me to sign a lot of newspapers. | | 2<br>counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | 2<br>Q. And after that meeting, did you have | | 3<br>question invoking his rights under the Fifth | 3<br>any direct communications with him after that? | | 4<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and | 4<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | | | | 5<br>Mr. Wolman, we have established we are not | 5<br>A. No. | | 6<br>going to go any further with income | Q. Do you recall making a video about<br>6 | | 7<br>questions. So this -- | 7<br>Mr. Cheng? | | 8<br>MR. WOLMAN: Let me ask this one, let | A. I made a video on the 5th of June<br>8 | | 9<br>me ask this one. | 9 2018. | | 10<br>Q. What was the last job that you held | Q. And why did you make that video?<br>10 | | 11 that you won't invoke the Fifth Amendment | A. So it was in 2018, March and April,<br>11 | | 12 privilege for? | 12 Wang Ding Gang who is Cheng Shuiyan's employee and | | 13<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I need to object -- to | 13 together with Cheng Shuiyan they created a media | | 14<br>the extent you can answer that based not on | 14 called the Voice of Freedom. And then on YouTube, | | an attorney/client communication, you can<br>ો ર | 15 that they created a lot of the video supporting me | | answer.<br>16 | 16 and then also the corruptions of the Chinese | | To the extent it would reveal an<br>17 | 17 communist party. | | attorney/client communication that would<br>18 | However, by the end of March to<br>18 | | include your understanding of the Fifth<br>19 | 19 April, Wang Ding Gang told me that there was | | Amendment privilege, then please do not<br>20 | 20 someone from Bejing with a government background | | 21<br>answer revealing any attorney/client | 21 visiting Cheng Shuiyan and representing him | | 22<br>communications. | 22 expensive gifts such as expensive Moutai and then | | 23<br>A. I actually don't recall. | 23 telling him not to support me. And so not to | | 24<br>Q. What is the job you have held for the | 24 support me on the platform of Voice of Freedom. | | 25 longest period of time? | So is that he will -- Cheng<br>25 |

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| 97 | 99 | |----------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------| | And in fact, his Hong Kong | that would be the cell phone that was hacked which | | partner also had in contact with me and giving me<br>2 | stored the documents of Cheng Shuiyan.<br>2 | | such documents as well and then all those<br>3 | 3<br>And also at the time, I had a | | 4<br>documents and the information I stored in the | Twitter account as well, and when that happened, I<br>4 | | computer and the cell phone before and which were<br>5 | 5<br>tweeted out and sending out messages that telling | | hacked and all been destroyed. Otherwise, I would<br>6 | my phone was hacked, the documents were hacked,<br>6 | | have them in my cell phone and my computer.<br>7 | and so the Twitter message and videos, I send the<br>7 | | 8<br>And in fact, including some kind | 8<br>message out. | | of bank documents and also his criminal record --<br>9 | 9<br>Q. When did you throw out these phones? | | 10 documents and records in mainland China and his | A. Around August or September 2018. I'm<br>10 | | 11 lawyer provided them to me and I have -- I had all | 11 not saying that I dispose all the phones within a | | 12 of them. | 12 day. Well, sometimes here, sometimes there. | | Q. OK, what was the name of this lawyer?<br>13 | 13 Sometimes -- hang on. | | A. And I don't recall it now.<br>14 | So that I sometimes this day,<br>14 | | Q. What was the name of this Hong Kong<br>1 ર | 15 sometimes later, sometimes earlier, it's because | | 16 business partner? | 16 those cell phones, once they were hacked -- | | A. I don't recall that now either.<br>17 | 17 sometimes they were just being hacked, but | | Q. When did this alleged hack take place?<br>18 | 18 sometimes the entire phone was on fire. | | A. It was after Cheng Shuiyan and his<br>19 | So to keep all these phones here would<br>19 | | 20 employee, personal employee, Marco, made the | 20 really be like threatening so that's why I just | | 21 attack on me on the platform Geteer, and since | 21 disposed of them. | | 22 then, my cell phone was hacked daily. In fact, | Q. I'm a little confused because isn't it<br>22 | | 23 really daily. | 23 true that the HBO piece aired on November 15, | | In fact, it was from May 2018 and August<br>24 | 24 2017, months before the video of May 2018 -- | | 25 2018, Cheng Shuiyan and his personal employee, | 25 sorry, June 2018? | | | | | | | | 98 | 100 | | 1 Marco, being -- attacking me and because of that | A. So what -- maybe there is some mistake<br>1 | | 2 attack and I changed my cell phone was hacked either | and I did not say that the cell phone was hacked<br>2 | | every day or every other two days. So basically at<br>ను | in those cell phone displayed in the HBO<br>3 | | that time, I need to change cell phone nearly every<br>4 | interview.<br>ব | | 5<br>day. | 5<br>I merely said that during that | | б<br>Q. And the documents were on this cell | interview, I have displayed the cell phones that<br>6 | | 7<br>phone and the computer, you say? | have -- so many of the cell phones being hacked.<br>7 | | 8<br>A. Yes, it was on that cell phone. | So I was just saying that my cell phone<br>8 | | Q. And where is that cell phone now?<br>9 | 9 was already hacked during that time, but the peak of | | 10<br>A. All thrown away. Because I could not | 10 the hacker was happening in 2018 between May and | | 11 open them anymore and I could not use them | 11 August. | | 12 anymore. | Q. OK. And you say you probably disposed<br>12 | | Q. And where is that computer now?<br>13 | 13 of the phone that had the documents regarding | | 14<br>A. I did not use computer. I was | 14 Mr. Cheng at some point in August or September of | | 15 actually just using cell phone. I was talking | 15 2018, correct? | | 16 about just cell phone. | Yes.<br>16<br>A. | | Q. How did these documents get to your<br>17 | Q.<br>And at what point --<br>17 | | 18 cell phone? | A. Let me think, let me think.<br>18 | | A. At the time, it was through WhatsApp<br>19 | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, do you<br>19 | | 20 and MSN Messenger. | mind if I clarify with the witness one word<br>20 | | 21<br>In fact, that HBO had made an | that I'm not quite sure I caught?<br>21 | | 22 interview, had interviewed me, and then during | MR. WOLMAN: Sure.<br>22 | | 23 that interview is -- you can check on those | 23<br>A. So the thing is that you see, even | | 24 videos, during that interview, I placed on the | 24 though those documents were destroyed, however, a |

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Conducted on April 1, 2021 101 103 1 to the network, on the Geteer platform. So if you 1 A. I don't have any recollection. 2 were to make a such, you can find those documents. 2 Q. Who told you to dispose of the phones? 3 3 Q. When was it you first decided to sue A. Myself. 4 4 Mr. Cheng? Q. Did anybody ever tell you not to 5 5 dispose of phones? A. So I really cannot quite recall from 6 I don't recall. 6 June, July, August, you know, during that period A. 7 Q. Do you have any awareness of an 7 of time, he made serious attacks towards myself 8 and my family, full of malice and including he 8 obligation to preserve documents in anticipation 9 9 himself, his employee, Marco, every day just of litigation? 10 incessantly just creating attack towards me. It 10 MR. GAVENMAN: Objection. 11 has brought so much harm and so much destruction 11 To the extent you can answer that 12 to my life and my family. 12 without it being based on 13 So I really cannot recall exactly when 13 attorney/client communication, you're 14 14 that I decide to sue him, perhaps in May or August, welcome to answer it, but please don't 15 around that time. 1 ર reveal attorney/client communications. 16 16 Q. When did you hire attorney Christopher A. My answer is no. 17 Rose and/or the law firm of Jolley, Urga, 17 Q. Is there any reason nothing about your 18 Woodbury, Holthus & Rose? 18 video or these documents were mentioned in your 19 A. So I must also clarify that, you know, 19 August 9, 2018 complaint against Mr. Cheng in 20 Nevada? 20 I actually don't remember the names, the names of 21 the counsel or the names of the firm. All these 21 MR. GAVENMAN: Again, I strongly 22 names that you just talked about, I have no 22 caution you not to reveal any 23 concept whatsoever. 23 attorney/client communications. 24 24 But do you mind if I go to the To the extent any understanding 25 bathroom? 25 comes from attorney/client 102 104 1 1 Q. That's fine. communications, you should not reveal 2 2 Wait, strike that, let's answer them. 3 3 the question. When did you hire the law firm that To the extent you can answer it 4 filed the Nevada suit? 4 without revealing, you can. 5 A. I cannot recall the specific time. 5 A. No. 6 Q. OK, we can take a five-minute bathroom 6 Q. You mentioned the use of MSN 7 break. Messenger. What is the Microsoft account 7 8 (Recess; 2:31 p.m. to 2:40 p.m.) 8 affiliated with that? 9 9 Q. Mr. Guo, do you ever attempt to MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. 10 recover the data from any of these phones you 10 A. Well, I have over a hundred of a cell 11 claim were hacked? 11 phone. I really cannot recall any of those. A. Well, it was never recovered 12 12 Q. Are you aware that --13 successfully. 13 A. So when I'm talking about hundreds of 14 Who attempted to recover it? 14 cell phone I use, that would be the situation to Q. I don't recall. 15 15 the period of August of 2018. In fact, I would A. 16 Q. Did you ever submit what -- these one 16 have much more of the cell phone use after August 17 2018. 17 or more phones to a professional forensic company 18 for recovery? 18 Q. How is it possible that you had an MSN 19 A. I don't recall. 19 messenger account without having an e-mail Q. Did your Nevada attorneys assist you 20 address? 20 21 in attempting to get any data recovery from this 21 MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form, 22 device or devices? foundation. 22 23 A. I don't recall. 23 A. Well, I only know when I have a cell 24 Q. Well, what do you recall about the 24 phone, then there is a cell phone number so that 25 recovery efforts for the data on the phones? 25 would be MSN, this function that I can use. I

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| | 105<br>107 | |--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------| | don't know that MSN is having any connection with<br>1 | electronic copy of the original complaint filed in | | 2<br>e-mail. | Nevada by you against Mr. Cheng on August 9, 2018.<br>2 | | Q. Who sets up your cell phone each time<br>3 | 3<br>We can scroll through it. | | 4<br>you get one? | 4<br>Did you read this document either | | 5<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | 5<br>in English or as translated before it was filed? | | 6<br>Q. Can you recall anybody who has ever | A. Asimple translation, yes, someone had<br>6 | | helped you set up a cell phone?<br>7 | briefly translated that for me.<br>7 | | 8<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | Q. Who translated it?<br>8 | | 9<br>Q. You have an Apple iPhone there? | 0<br>I cannot recall.<br>A. | | Yes.<br>10<br>A. | Q. Were they affiliated with the Nevada<br>10 | | Q. What is the Apple ID associated with<br>11 | 11 law firm, who translated it? | | 12 that iPhone? | I don't know.<br>12<br>A. | | I don't know.<br>A.<br>13 | Q. How did you make the acquaintance of<br>13 | | Q. You just got that a few days ago,<br>14 | 14 this translator? | | 15 correct? | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection, form,<br>ો ર | | A. Yes.<br>16 | foundation.<br>16 | | Q. Do you still have it in front of you | A. Well, I don't know this translator.<br>17 | | 17 | | | 18 or with you in the room? | Q. Now, paragraph 101 on page 13 states,<br>18 | | A. No, it's in another room.<br>19 | 19 "Cheng does not know Guo personally." | | Q. OK. We have had a few breaks so far.<br>20 | You testified, however, that the<br>20 | | 21 Did you speak with anybody during those breaks? | 21 two of you had met back months before this | | A.<br>No.<br>22 | 22 complaint was filed, correct? | | Q. Have you sent any communications with<br>23 | A. You have misunderstood because what it<br>23 | | 24 anybody during any of the breaks that we have had | 24 says here, Cheng does not know Guo personally | | 25 today? | 25 meant before, long before we met personally, long | | | 108<br>106 | | 1<br>No.<br>A. | 1 before that he accused me of being rapist and | | 2<br>Q. Did you read the Nevada complaint | 2 killers, I had to -- this millions and millions of | | before it was filed?<br>3 | dollars of deal with Xi Jinping and betraying the<br>3 | | 4<br>And actually strike that. I'm | 1.4 billion of Chinese people, we did not know<br>ব | | 5<br>going to upload a document. | each other.<br>5 | | 6<br>MR. WOLMAN: It should be going. | 6<br>So I emphasized that before he | | 7<br>TECHNICIAN: Make sure you hit -- | maliciously insulted me, threatening me, harming<br>7 | | 8<br>MR. WOLMAN: I did. | 8 me and before we met each other, we -- did he not | | TECHNICIAN: OK. Some people miss<br>9 | 9 know me. | | 10<br>that. | Q. I am sorry, when did my client call<br>10 | | 11<br>MR. WOLMAN: The progress bar is not | 11 you a rapist? | | 12<br>moving for some reason. | A. Let me see, he started to have his<br>12 | | THE INTERPRETER: I was explaining to<br>13 | 13 personal employee Marco in March and then started | | the witness that we are waiting for the<br>14 | 14 out from April, May and June, all the way to | | document upload.<br>ો રે | 15 August, they started to maliciously viciously | | MR. WOLMAN: I just uploaded to the<br>16 | 16 attacking me verbally and him, himself and his | | Zoom. Can you use that?<br>17 | 17 personal employee, Marco, and kept calling me on | | 18<br>TECHNICIAN: Yes, absolutely. One | | | | 18 their platform that I was the rapist, I was, you | | 19<br>moment, please. | 19 know, a peasant, I was a liar, I was whatever and | | Q. I am marking as Exhibit 3 and<br>20 | 20 he -- they were making such threat to me and the | | 21 displaying the document on the screen. | 21 safe -- threatening my safety and my family's | | (Exhibit 3, document entitled<br>22 | 22 safety and we were constantly living in -- under | | "Complaint" marked for identification,<br>23 | 23 this kind of a threat and fear. | | as of this date.)<br>24 | Q. Move to strike, not responsive.<br>24 |

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| 109<br>rapist? | 111<br>A. So I actually cannot be sure that it | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A. Well, the thing is that he and his<br>2 | was Ria Ma who was actually suing me for that.<br>2 | | employee, Marco, and all the time that on -- | 3 | | | You see, this case was brought<br>ব | | 4 saying that on Freedom China or Twitter, calling<br>5 me that liar. But I cannot recall exactly when | forward right after I had made the broadcasting, | | | 5 the whistleblower broadcasting in 2017, and then | | 6 that Cheng Shuiyan have called me that, and he and | 6 on the same day, the notice from the Interpol had | | 7 his personal employee definitely did call me that | 7 been issued for me, for me, my person, and then | | 8 starting from May or -- they did. | 8 after that, this case was brought up. | | Q. So you are saying --<br>த | But the thing is, throughout this<br>0 | | A. He did. He did, I have -- I haven't<br>10 | 10 case, I have not seen Ria Ma or the documents or | | 11 finished, sorry, Counsel. | 11 the information was brought forward by the police | | Well, and --<br>12 | 12 in mainland China. Ria Ma had never appeared or | | 13<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | 13 never shown in any way. | | Q. First of all, I don't need that<br>14 | So I believe that this is a<br>14 | | 15 translated. | 15 fabricated case and brought forward by the Chinese | | MR. GAVENMAN: You are going to have<br>16 | 16 Communist Party police and that is why Cheng | | that translated. He is going to respond.<br>17 | 17 Shuiyan was so very familiar with this case. | | 18<br>MR. WOLMAN: He is not responding to | But Ria Ma has never appeared and<br>18 | | 19<br>anything. | 19 in fact, we have been trying to look for her and | | MR. GAVENMAN: He most certainly is.<br>20 | 20 trying to get her to be the witness for this case | | MR. WOLMAN: He is filibustering, he<br>21 | 21 but she has never shown. | | 22<br>is filibustering. | Q. That case is still ongoing, correct?<br>22 | | A. I have a -- I have answered you, so<br>23 | A. Yes. We -- I should say that we are<br>23 | | 24 that you must let me translate that. And so --<br>25 and because I have answered your question. | 24 in the middle of looking for Ria Ma and we have<br>25 been looking for her for many months. | | 110 | 112 | | By the end of March and in June | Q. To be clear, has anybody else accused | | and May and April, his lawyer, from Yingnan had | you of sexual assault? | | 3 been -- had been calling and telling me that Cheng | THE INTERPRETER: Sorry, I hear two<br>3 | | 4 Shuiyan had been already accusing me of being a | voices just now.<br>4 | | spy, a rapist and all that.<br>ട് | 5<br>Q. To be clear, has anybody other than | | And also including Lude and he<br>6 | Ria Ma accused you of sexual assault?<br>6 | | 7 privately told me that Cheng Shuiyan personally | 7<br>A. No. | | 8 privately calling me rapist and liar and then also | 8<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | | 9 like threatening and just, you know, in fact, it's | の<br>Q. As to -- there is no question posed. | | 10 on social media as well. | 10 There is no question posed. | | And then he actually naturally privately<br>11 | A. That is -- that is why the -- I need<br>11 | | 12 make the allegation of me being a rapist openly. In | 12 to sue Cheng Shuiyan because why would he know | | 13 fact, he also said that I was a rapist and I needed | 13 that there was such a case, and then for bringing | | 14 to be deported and he tweeted that, too. | 14 forward this case and then brought up this case is | | 15<br>And on the Twitter, he claimed | 15 completely full of malice and vicious -- | | 16 that he had written to DOJ and his personal | 16 viciousness and then trying to insult me, trying | | 17 employee, Marco, also written to the DOJ that I | | | | 17 to frame me and then it was trying to threaten me | | 18 was a rapist and needed to be deported, and so the | 18 and ruin me. | | 19 Chinese government can, you know, just take care | Q. And none of those allegations appear<br>19 | | 20 of me and it was all done privately and openly as | 20 though in Exhibit 3, do they? | | 21 well. | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection, form.<br>21 | | Q. Since you seem to have opened the<br>22 | A. That is why I need to, again,<br>22 | | 23 door, were you sued for sexual assault? | 23 emphasize to you -- that is why I need to clarify | | 24<br>Yes.<br>A. | 24 with you when you're talking about Exhibit 3, you |

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| 113<br>understand English, I cannot read English. | 115<br>that in March, Cheng Shuiyan met with someone from | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 2<br>Well, that is, that is why that I | mainland China and he was actually a Mongolian<br>2 | | 3<br>need to tell you that, because a lot of the | 3<br>police. | | evidence that had not been appeared on this, in<br>ব | So he was drinking Moutai alcohol<br>4 | | 5 this complaint and also that had not been brought | 5<br>with this person and given hundred million -- | | 6 forward in the case of Nevada's lawsuit and that | millions of dollars by this person and just so<br>6 | | 7 is exactly why that they have -- there were two | 7<br>that he can defame me and insult me. | | 8 lethal fatal made for that case and as a result, | 8<br>All of that was actually recorded | | we lost that lawsuit.<br>d | 9 and told by Lude and these are fact, factual as | | One is that Lude was -- Lude was<br>10 | 10 just a piece of steel metal, and the only person | | 11 and that's Wang Ding Gang, and also Marco, who was | 11 who would think that I am the enemy and I am a bad | | 12 the personal employee of Cheng Shuiyan, they made | 12 person is the Chinese Communist Party. they are | | 13 this defamation insult of me and that was because | 13 the only people who would consider me as enemy or | | 14 they were instructed and told by Cheng Shuiyan. | 14 people working with them would consider me an | | 15 And so Cheng Shuiyan would need to be responsible | 15 enemy. | | 16 for all the attacks and the insult and defamed | So I can tell you I know that<br>16 | | 17 remarks that they have made of me, and that has | 17 that Cheng Shuiyan was very wealthy, but the thing | | 18 not been included in this case as the evidence. | 18 is that the money that he got came from defrauding | | And also including quite a lot of<br>19 | 19 people in China and being defrauding his business | | 20 information including in the cell phone and being | 20 partner in China and coming from ill-gotten means. | | 21 lost and all that, I had not been included in any | Q. And this information you got from a<br>21 | | 22 of this complaint. And that is why that we have | 22 person named Lude who was losing his job, correct? | | 23 lost it. And why that we have used a new lawyer | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>23 | | 24 and to open this case again. | A. OK. So Lude did not lose his job.<br>24 | | And that also includes the fact<br>25 | 25 Lude gave up his job because he did not want to be | | | | | | | | 114 | 116 | | that we have only -- I have only 15,000 of the | conspired with the CCP. | | damage from him. It is a very low amount.<br>N | And since that he gave up his job<br>2 | | 3<br>The reason that we only sought<br>ব | 3<br>with Cheng Shuiyan, his life is even better. He<br>4 | | such a low amount is because it was only to try to | was doing so much better with his anti-Chinese | | 5 stop him, stop him from making -- continue of | 5<br>Communist Party activities. | | 6 making malicious insult and vicious rumor that is<br>7 very destructive to me and my family and also | And also I must clarify, the<br>6<br>information did not come from Lude. As I stated,<br>7 | | 8 spreading all this deception online about me and | 8 the information come from Cheng Shuiyan -- the | | 9 created by him and his personal employee, Marco, | | | 10 and proven by his conversations together with | 9 lawyer from -- the Yingnan lawyer who is also the<br>10 Mongolian police, the intelligence police, and | | 11 Lude. | 11 also that the -- to the Mongolian police | | And all of that had not been included<br>12 | 12 interviews of those people that who had been | | 13 into that complaint made to the Nevada case and that | 13 disappeared, who had been arrested after they were | | 14 is why that we are pursuing that. | 14 supportive of me and they were arrested by those | | We hope that with this<br>15 | 15 police, it come from those people as a source. | | 16 opportunity that we can provide more fact to the | 16 Not from Lude. | | 17 judge and then for this case and so that we can | Q. And other than Lude, you don't have<br>17 | | 18 know that Cheng Shuiyan was in cohort with the CCP | 18 the names today remembering any of these other | | 19 and conspired with them and spreading destructive | 19 sources, do you? | | 20 insult of me and creating malicious rumors about | A. If you wish to search for those names<br>20 | | 21 me that is very destructive. | 21 and, you know, if you have time, those names were | | Q. Do you have any -- excuse me, my turn.<br>22 | 22 online and you can actually find them. | | Do you have any actual evidence<br>23 | Can you find them?<br>23<br>Q. | | 24 that my client is working with the CCP? | I can try.<br>24<br>A. |

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| 117 | 119 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | your counsel to supplement the initial<br>2<br>disclosures? | repeat the interpreting?<br>l<br>2<br>MR. WOLMAN: Yes. | | 3 | 3<br>A. I borrowed from them. | | A. I cannot guarantee but I will try. | | | Q. When do you think you can get us that | Q. Is there an agreement memorializing | | 4 | 4 | | information by? | 5 | | 5 | this borrowing? | | A. I cannot guarantee. As I said, I<br>6 | 6<br>No.<br>A. | | 7 | 7 | | cannot promise. So I cannot tell you what -- | Q. Do you have to pay them back? | | 8 | 8 | | when. | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | | 9 | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | | Q. Now, if you wanted to, you could have | ರ | | 10 any of your legal pleadings translated for you, | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>10 | | 11 correct? | 11<br>Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | A. You mean by whom? | Q. How much did you borrow? | | 12 | 12 | | 13 | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | | Q. Did you have a certified translator | 13 | | 14 translate any legal pleading for you? | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question<br>14 | | A. Our lawyer was doing a fine job. | invoking his rights under the Fifth | | 15 | ો ર | | Q. How did you know your lawyer was doing | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | 16 | 16 | | 17 a find job only now to find out there was | Q. Was there a term of interest in this<br>17 | | 18 information not included? | 18 borrowing arrangement? | | A. So my -- what I meant was that usually | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | 19 | 19 | | 20 lawyer would do a good job. It's just of course | Foundation<br>20 | | 21 that lawyer, that particular lawyer did not do a | Yes.<br>A.<br>21 | | 22 good job. But usually lawyers can be relied upon. | O. How much was the rate of interest?<br>22 | | Q. If you wanted to, you could have | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | | 23 | 23 | | 24 anything translated, correct? | Mr. Guo declines to answer the question<br>24 | | Of course.<br>25<br>A. | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>25 | | 118 | 120 | | Q. Who paid for the litigation in Nevada? | 1 | | 1 | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | 2<br>Golden Spring.<br>A. | 2<br>Q. Did Golden Spring New York -- strike | | 3<br>Why?<br>Q. | 3<br>that. | | 4 | If you had won your case against | | MR. GAVENMAN: Wait. On the advice | 4 | | 5 | Mr. Cheng in Nevada, would Golden Spring New York | | of Mr. Guo's counsel, Mr. Guo declines to | റ | | 6 | have been entitled to any portion of that | | respond to the question invoking his rights | 6 | | 7 | 7 | | under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. | recovery? | | Constitution. | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | | 8 | 8 | | MR. WOLMAN: Jeff, that's not an | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | | ರ | ರ | | asset-related question. That is a | invoking his rights under the Fifth | | 10 | 10 | | 11 | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | motivation. | 11 | | MR. GAVENMAN: We are invoking the | Q. Have you borrowed from Golden Spring | | 12 | 12 | | Fifth. We have already been through this.<br>13 | 13 New York to finance any other litigation? | | We had 20 questions about why they pay for | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | | 14 | 14 | | stuff. I don't know why you would think | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | | ો ર | ો ર | | there would be a different answer here. | invoking his rights under the Fifth | | 16 | 16 | | THE WITNESS: Counsel, I just need to | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. | | 17 | 17 | | go to close my window because the window is | Q. Subsequent to your disappointment with | | 18 | 18 | | open at the moment. There is a gust of<br>19 | 19 the prior Nevada law firm, have you done anything | | wind. So I need to close the window. Is it<br>20 | 20 to ensure that all documents in your litigation | | all right if I go to do that?<br>21 | 21 with Mr. Cheng are translated for you? | | 22 | A. No. | | MR. WOLMAN: Sure. | 22 | | Q. Did you ask Golden Spring to pay for | 23 | | 23 | MR. WOLMAN: Let's, Juliet, let's | | | | | | | | 24 the Nevada litigation?<br>25<br>THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, may I | take out document number 003.<br>24<br>TECHNICIAN: Yes, marking as Exhibit<br>25 |

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| 121<br>4. And the document is on the screen.<br>1<br>identification, as of this date.)<br>2<br>2<br>(Exhibit 4, Complaint and Jury<br>Q. Mr. Guo, I will note these are the<br>3<br>Demand marked for identification, as of<br>initial disclosures filed by -- served by your<br>3<br>4<br>4<br>attorney in this case.<br>this date.)<br>5<br>5<br>Did you ever have this document<br>Q. Mr. Guo, I will represent that this is<br>6<br>the complaint and jury demand in this case.<br>6<br>translated?<br>7<br>7<br>Did you have it translated for<br>A. The thing is that -- allow me to<br>8<br>you?<br>8<br>emphasize again, like this is an English document,<br>9<br>A. At the time that I had a voice<br>9 and you know, if you ask me any of the English<br>10 simultaneous interpretation of this document for<br>10 documents just posted in front of me on the screen<br>11 and to scroll down and let me see, I really cannot<br>11 me, a brief interpretation, but I do not recall<br>12 there was translation.<br>12 be sure that whether I have seen it or not or | 123 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | MR. WOLMAN: Let's pull up the<br>13 translated the document or not. I really cannot<br>13 | | | document that starts with 004.<br>14 be sure.<br>14 | | | TECHNICIAN: Marking as Exhibit 5.,<br>Now, if you were to give me time and put<br>15<br>] ર | | | 16 the document in front of me and let me really read<br>and the document is on the screen.<br>16 | | | (Exhibit 5, Defendant Wengui<br>17 in detail and try to remember, perhaps I can. But<br>17 | | | Guo's Answer to the Complaint marked for<br>18 just post in front of me scrolling, I just cannot be<br>18 | | | identification, as of this date.)<br>19<br>19 sure. | | | Q. I would represent this is the answer<br>MR. WOLMAN: OK. Let's go to 006. I<br>20<br>20 | | | 21 to the complaint filed by Mr. Gavenman in this<br>know I'm jumping around Juliet, sorry.<br>21 | | | TECHNICIAN: No problem at all.<br>22 case.<br>22 | | | 23<br>Did you have this document translated<br>Marking it as Exhibit 7 and<br>23 | | | 24 for you?<br>Exhibit 7 is on the screen.<br>24 | | | A.<br>Yes.<br>(Exhibit 7, Defendant Wengui<br>25<br>25 | | | 122 | 124 | | Q. If you did not have the prior<br>1<br>Guo's Objections and Responses to | | | 2<br>2<br>document, which was Exhibit 4, fully translated,<br>Plaintiff Logan Cheng's Second Revised | | | 3<br>3<br>how were you able to assist in advising your<br>First Set of Requests for Production of | | | company whether or not to admit or deny certain<br>4<br>4<br>Documents marked for identification, as | | | 5<br>5<br>of this date.)<br>facts? | | | 6<br>Q. This is a -- the document is a 24-page<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I caution you not to<br>6 | | | 7<br>7<br>reveal any attorney/client communications in<br>document that is a your responses to our second | | | 8<br>this answer. To the extent you can answer<br>revised first set of requests for production.<br>8 | | | without revealing them, you are free do so.<br>As the technician scrolls through<br>9<br>ರ | | | A. I must clarify. You know the document<br>10<br>10 it, you will see there are over a 100 document | | | 11 requests, of these numbered, many of which have<br>11 that you showed me previously, I actually cannot | | | 12 be sure whether there were any words of<br>12 since been omitted. | | | 13 translation. There may have, there may not have.<br>Do you recall seeing a translated<br>13 | | | 14 version of that, of any document with over 100<br>14 I just cannot be sure. | | | And including this one also. I<br>15 requests?<br>15 | | | 16 mean, that -- I may have seen it but I may not<br>A. Yes, I recall.<br>16 | | | 17 have either.<br>17<br>And did you have that translated for<br>Q. | | | So any of these documents in English, I<br>18 you?<br>18 | | | 19 just wouldn't know for sure.<br>That I cannot recall.<br>19<br>A. | | | Q. OK. Now let's go to number 005.<br>Q. So then let's go to 008.<br>20<br>20 | | | 21<br>TECHNICIAN: OK. The document has<br>(Exhibit 8, Defendant Wengui<br>21 | | | been marked as Exhibit 6 and is displaying<br>22<br>Guo's Objections and Answers to<br>22 | | | Plaintiff Logan Cheng's First Set of<br>the document on the screen.<br>23<br>23 | | | (Exhibit 6, Defendant Wengui<br>Interrogatories marked for<br>24<br>24 | | | Guo's Initial Disclosures marked for<br>25<br>identification, as of this date.)<br>ટર્ર | |

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| ો ટર્સ | | 127 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------|-----| | Q. These are your Answers to the Revised | Let's not go into medical records. There<br>1 | | | First Set of Interrogatories. Why don't we scroll<br>2 | 2<br>was a request for that, we objected to it | | | 3<br>through that to the bottom. | 3<br>and moved for a protective order on medical | | | 4<br>Moving back to page 5, is that | 4<br>issues. We can -- you are very on the | | | 5<br>your signature? | 5<br>boarder. | | | A. Now -- yes, this is my signature, but<br>6 | 6<br>MR. WOLMAN: That was before I found | | | I must clarify, right, I mean, I cannot recall --<br>7 | 7<br>out your client doesn't know where he was | | | 8 I cannot be sure whether there are translation -- | 8<br>last week to sign this. | | | 9 meaning a written translation document for me. | 9<br>MR. GAVENMAN: OK, do you have -- | | | But definitely verbal interpretation of<br>10 | what his care is or isn't is really not<br>10 | | | 11 these documents was provided by my counsel to me. | relevant. He doesn't remember where it was.<br>11 | | | Q. Do you understand that you signed that<br>12 | It's really where it should begin and end.<br>12 | | | 13 under penalty of perjury? | 13<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer the | | | A. Of course.<br>14 | 14 question? | | | । ર<br>Q. Are you certain that you understood | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, I don't<br>ાં ર | | | 16 the translations of your answers as appearing in | believe I finished the interpreting of that<br>16 | | | 17 this document? | question. Can you repeat that question for<br>17 | | | 18<br>Yes.<br>A. | 18<br>me. | | | Q. Where were you when you signed this<br>19 | Q. Sure. Has any physician diagnosed you<br>19 | | | 20 document? | 20 with a memory condition? | | | A.<br>I cannot recall.<br>21 | No.<br>21<br>A. | | | This was last week, correct?<br>22<br>0. | Q. Turning back to the last exhibit which<br>22 | | | I cannot recall.<br>23<br>A. | 23 was 00 -- which is Kwok 7, what did you do to | | | Q. Do you see the date, March 24, 2021?<br>24 | 24 search for responsive documents? | | | A. So it should be on, you know,<br>25 | A. Our lawyers have made the search for<br>25 | | | | | | | | | | | 126 | | 128 | | March 24, right?<br>1 | documents.<br>1 | | | 2<br>Q.<br>Yes. | 2<br>Q. Where do you store your documents? | | | 3<br>In that case, it's March 24.<br>A. | 3<br>A. I did not store or kept any document. | | | 4<br>Q. And you don't remember where you were | Q. Did you provide your lawyers with any<br>4 | | | 5<br>last week when you signed this? | 5<br>of your phones or other computer devices? | | | 6<br>I really don't recall.<br>A. | 6<br>I don't have computer.<br>A. | | | 7<br>Q. Earlier in this deposition, I asked | 7<br>Q. What is the device you are currently | | | you if you had any medical conditions that would<br>8 | 8 using to stream this deposition? | | | 9 prevent you from answering the questions | d<br>A. Acell phone. | | | 10 accurately. | Q. Is that a cell phone different from<br>10 | | | 11<br>Do you have some sort of medical | 11 the one you showed us before? | | | 12 condition that affects your memory? | 12<br>A. No, in front of me is actually a -- | | | A. I recall that.<br>13 | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, do you<br>13 | | | Q. Then why is it you are unable to<br>14 | mind if I clarify the term with the witness?<br>14 | | | 15 recall where you were last week to sign this | MR. WOLMAN: Sure.<br>ાં ર | | | 16 document? | A. So in front much me, it is a video<br>16 | | | 17<br>A. I don't know. | 17 playing device. | | | Q. Are you currently under the care of a<br>18 | Q. What kind of device is it?<br>18 | | | 19 neurologist? | A. I don't understand. Because you see<br>19 | | | A.<br>No.<br>20 | 20 they were in English writing -- they -- there was | | | Q. Has any physician told you you had a<br>21 | 21 an English writing, so I don't really know. | | | 22 problem with your memory? | 22<br>Q. Is it a computer? | | | MR. GAVENMAN: We are getting on the<br>23 | A. No, it is an image video device or<br>23 | | | borderline of harassing. He just doesn't<br>24<br>25 remember where the document was signed. | 24 something called image pick-up device, something<br>25 like that. | |

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| 129 | 131 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Q. How is it connected to the internet? | lawsuit in Nevada, we were full of good faith, | | 2<br>A. Because it is a photo imaging device, | only asking for a very minor amount, 15,000 | | 3<br>so that it can be connected with the internet. | dollars. The purpose of it merely to stop him | | 4<br>Q. Is it connected through some form of | attacking us, stop him spreading malicious vicious<br>4 | | 5<br>wifi? | 5<br>rumor that has cost severe destruction to myself | | 6<br>A. It has wifi and it has cabling wire | and my family.<br>6 | | 7<br>function as well. | 7<br>And it caused great fear in my | | 8<br>Q. And it doesn't connect -- does it | 8 family's mind because imagine that they were told | | 9<br>connect in any way to a computer? | 9 that they will be deported back into China, in the | | 10<br>A. I don't really know because it has a | 10 hand -- put in the hand of the Chinese Communist | | 11 box. It's called a live broadcasting box because | 11 Party and put into prison by the Chinese Communist | | 12 I broadcast with myself anywhere. So that's why | 12 Party and then Cheng Shuiyan and his personal | | 13 this is a portable device and it has a live | 13 employee, Marco, came right to the Department of | | 14 broadcasting box. So I don't know whether it's | 14 Justice and request us to be deported. And that | | 15 connecting -- can be connected with computer or | 15 is the kind of fear and that kind of scary | | 16 not. | 16 accusation that is spread on us. | | Q. Where do you store your records?<br>17 | So that is full of malicious and<br>17 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>18 | 18 vicious intention, and we, in return, we were just | | A. Well, I don't have anywhere that I can<br>19 | 19 like asking for 15,000 of the damage just to stop | | 20 keep any records because unlike Cheng Shuiyan, | 20 him for spreading that kind of a rumor about us | | 21 every day, I was trying to run away from, escape | 21 and in good faith. | | 22 from the persecution coming from the CCP, and I am | Q. One -- please, let sir, sir. What do<br>22 | | 23 not as wealthy as Cheng Shuiyan who has hotel and | 23 you mean by "we"? | | 24 who has properties, you know, and every day, I'm | 24<br>A. I only said I. Perhaps it is the | | 25 just running around. And I don't really have any | 25 interpreter who interpreted it into "we," but I | | | | | | | | 130 | 132 | | place that I can keep that record. | only say "I." | | 2<br>Q. When you say you're not as wealthy -- | 2<br>Q. OK. Now, are you aware that you | | 3<br>excuse me, when you say you're not as wealthy as | 3<br>actually asked for monies in excess of 50,000<br>dollars on the face of the second amended<br>র্ব | | 4<br>my client, how do you know that?<br>MR. GAVENMAN: To the extent there is | | | 5 | 5<br>complaint? | | 6<br>any piece of this answer that regards your<br>7 | 6<br>A. Yes, I know that. | | assets or not assets, Mr. Kwok, on advice of | 7<br>Q. Are you aware that you also asked for | | counsel, you should decline to respond to<br>8 | punitive damages?<br>8<br>9 | | 9<br>the question and invoking your right to the<br>Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.<br>10 | A. Yes, I know that. But then you see | | 11 | 10 the thing is, in the past, right, he has -- not in<br>11 the past. I know that because he has caused me so | | To the extent, it's about<br>Mr. Cheng's assets, you can answer.<br>12 | 12 much damage and he has tens of -- several tens of | | A. Well, you see, Cheng Shuiyan has a<br>13 | 13 a million dollar. | | 14 hotel in Las Vegas and Lude also said that he has | I know that. And then he -- what<br>14 | | 15 other profit shares, and based on the Mongolian | 15 he did cost me so much of destruction, cost me so | | 16 policeman who had to interview a lot of the | 16 much threat, and then cost me so much fear and | | 17 people, those people have told me that Cheng | 17 then full of this -- because he have made those | | 18 Shuiyan has a lot of properties probably in | 18 malicious, defamed accusation allegation of me, | | 19 Mongolia as well. | 19 calling me rapist, calling me killer, calling me | | So based on those information,<br>20 | 20 criminal, and so when I was asking him of that | | 21 Cheng Shuiyan is reported to have a billion | 21 punitive damage, it is really full of good faith | | 22 dollars at least of the asset. Wealthy enough to | 22 and he is well capable of paying it. | | 23 send me to prison in China and have me deported | And also you see he and his<br>23 | | 24 into a China to be imprisoned there. | 24 personal employee, Marco, wrote to the Department |

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| | 001100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 133<br>stated I was wanted in the Chinese -- in China by | ો રેર<br>to be made responsible for his employee, his<br>l | | 2<br>the Chinese government. | personal employee, Marco, who had kept on making<br>2 | | 3<br>Now, I have never seen any such | 3<br>all this allegation about me and spreading | | 4<br>document that stated that I am a wanted person in | 4<br>malicious rumors and gossipped about me. He have | | 5 China by the Chinese government. So where did | 5<br>to be made to take that responsibility. | | 6 they get these government -- they fabricated this | 6<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | | 7 document and all that is because they had the | 7<br>Q. There is no question. There is no | | 8 purpose of deporting me into China back into the | 8<br>question? | | | 9<br>MR. GAVENMAN: We can wait until the | | 9 hand of the Chinese government and then wanting me<br>10 dead. So that is malice. | 10 | | Now, do you think that can be<br>11 | next question is pending. | | | Mr. Wolman asks a question and<br>11 | | 12 actually paid and that is actually enough to be | 12<br>then you can continue to respond. | | 13 paid for by just tens of thousands or that kind of | Q. You mentioned a letter at Department<br>13 | | 14 a punitive damage? | 14 of Justice from my client. Why have you not | | ા ર<br>Q. Thank you. | 15 produced it? | | (Simultaneous crosstalk)<br>16 | A. Well, the thing is that document was<br>16 | | Q. Please, there is no question. Excuse<br>17 | 17 written by Cheng Shuiyan and his personal | | 18 me, excuse me, there is no question. Excuse me. | 18 employee, Marco, to DOJ, he, himself. They openly | | 19 Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. There was no | 19 talked about it, tweet about it online, over the | | 20 question pending. | 20 internet. | | (Simultaneous crosstalk)<br>21 | So it was -- it should be they<br>21 | | A. But I haven't finished. I haven't<br>22 | 22 who need to go and get that document and provide | | 23 finished my answer. | 23 to you. That is their document. And that has | | 24<br>Well, you see the thing is, all | 24 already been sent to DOJ. How can I get such a | | 25 the things that he has said have been forwarded | 25 document? How can I get it from the DOJ? | | 134 | 136 | | 1 and have been transmitted in mainland China and | 1<br>Yet they have tweeted it and they | | forwarded to millions and tens of millions and<br>2 | 2<br>have openly talked about it on Google, online, and | | 3<br>perhaps like hundreds of millions of the viewers. | it is constantly harassing me with that kind of a<br>3 | | 4<br>And then those messages were | statement and the damage they have caused is<br>4 | | 5<br>constantly calling me Guo rapist and Guo criminal | really, you know, can't be estimated. And that is<br>5 | | 6 and stating that the, in America, Department of | why the damage has to be sought.<br>6 | | 7 Justice is going to deport me back into China and | 7<br>Q. You said -- you don't have the | | 8 then calling me peasant, using words that -- as | document, correct? You don't -- don't --<br>8 | | 9 filthy as anything that can be and those words and | 9<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | | 10 those messages is going to accompany me throughout | MR. WOLMAN: Counsel, instruct your<br>10 | | 11 life. It's never going to be erased, never able | 11<br>client to wait for a question. He gives an | | 12 to be disappeared. | 12<br>answer. I get to now ask another question. | | So you see, that is in return to<br>13 | 13<br>This is how it works. | | 14 my kindness that only at the beginning, I had a | MR. GAVENMAN: Jay, you didn't follow<br>14 | | 15 dinner with him, and also during that time, I was | any instructions when it was your client<br>ો ર | | 16 very kind, I was very nice and return. Then he | doing unbelievable things. He is giving the<br>16 | | 17 treated me with such malice and turning white to | answer, complete answers. You have to let<br>17 | | 18 black and then calling me all kind of names. Of | him complete the answer.<br>18 | | 19 course, I'm going to pursue him. I would never | MR. WOLMAN: He is filibustering.<br>19 | | 20 give up in pursuing him with the damage. | MR. GAVENMAN: You are asking<br>20 | | (Simultaneous crosstalk)<br>21 | questions about this document, why it wasn't<br>21 | | 22<br>Q. Hold on, hold on, it's not responsive | produced and he is giving you an answer.<br>22 | | 23 to my question. You are filibustering again. | Q. Do you have the document?<br>23 | | MR. GAVENMAN: It's not a filibuster.<br>24 | A. So I haven't completed my previous<br>24 | | | |

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| | 1 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 137<br>Q. Do you have the document, yes or no?<br>1 | 139<br>Did you provide your attorney | | 2<br>MR. GAVENMAN: You need to allow him | with any of the documents that were used to<br>2 | | 3<br>to complete his answers. That's fundamental | 3<br>respond to the requests for production in this | | 4<br>in a deposition. He has to be able to | 4<br>case? | | 5<br>complete his answer. You asked why not. | 5<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | 6<br>There is a pending question. He has to be | 6<br>A.<br>What documents? | | 7<br>able to complete it. | 7<br>Q. Are you aware that your attorney | | 8<br>MR. WOLMAN: It was nonresponsive. | produced documents to us in this case?<br>8 | | MR. GAVENMAN: That's simply not<br>9 | Of course I know.<br>0<br>A. | | true. He was talking about the documents<br>10 | Q. And do you know what those documents<br>10 | | and its whereabouts.<br>11 | 11 were? | | MR. WOLMAN: I withdraw that previous<br>12 | A.<br>Of course I know.<br>12 | | 13<br>question then. | Q. Excellent. So did you give any of<br>13 | | Q. My question is, do you have a copy of<br>14 | 14 them to him? | | 15 that document? | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>ો ર | | A. I need to continue to answer my<br>16 | Of course.<br>A.<br>16 | | 17 previous question. | Q. Which documents did you give to him?<br>17 | | Q. No, I've withdrawn that.<br>18 | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>18 | | MR. GAVENMAN: He withdrew that<br>19 | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, do you<br>19 | | 20<br>question. | mind if I ask the witness to clarify because<br>20 | | This is pretty much the same<br>21 | I can't hear clearly.<br>21 | | question. You can explain why you do or<br>22 | MR. WOLMAN: Sure.<br>22 | | do not have an answer to that question.<br>23 | A. The document you have seen was<br>23 | | Q. Do you have that document? There is<br>24 | 24 provided by our counsel which, in turn, provided | | 25 no explanation. Yes or no. Do you have it? | 25 by me to my counsel. | | | | | | | | 138 | 140 | | 1<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>MR. WOLMAN: Move to strike as | However, however, I don't have<br>1<br>2 | | 2 | the document that was written by Marco or Cheng<br>న | | 3<br>nonresponsive.<br>4<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | Shuiyan to DOJ and that is why I want to actually<br>ask them to get that document.<br>ব | | 5<br>A. But you can't -- you can't -- you | 5<br>Q. I'm asking about any of the documents | | | that were produced in the response to the request<br>6 | | don't know what I'm answering, counsel.<br>6<br>Q. I've been listening long enough to<br>7 | for production of documents. Not your<br>7 | | understand what yes and no mean in Mandarin. | | | 8<br>ல் | 8<br>interrogatory answers.<br>Did you provide any of them to<br>9 | | A. This is my right to answer your<br>10 question and then I am speaking in Chinese and you | 10 your counsel for production? | | 11 don't know what I am saying. You must allow me to | A. Yes, I provided those documents to my<br>11 | | 12 answer your question. | 12 counsel. | | Q. I hear your answer, including Marco<br>13 | Q. Which ones?<br>13 | | 14 and my client's name. I want to know do you have | A. Anything that you can see were mostly<br>14 | | 15 the letter, period. | 15 provided by me. | | (Simultaneous crosstalk)<br>16 | Q. Excellent.<br>16 | | Move to strike.<br>17 | How did you get them to him?<br>17 | | Marco and his boss have them.<br>A.<br>18 | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>18 | | Do you have it?<br>Q.<br>19 | A. Well, I handed to my lawyer. That<br>19 | | I don't have.<br>20<br>A. | 20 would be it. | | Have you ever had it?<br>21<br>Q. | Q. You handed them to Mr. Gavenman?<br>21 | | No.<br>22<br>A. | A. I mean that I gave them to the lawyer<br>22 | | 23<br>Have you ever seen it?<br>Q. | 23 in Golden Spring. | | No.<br>24<br>A. | Q. Where did you find these documents to<br>24 | | Q. Thank you, that was easy enough.<br>25 | 25 give to the Golden Spring lawyer? |

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| 141 | 143 | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A. I don't know which document you are<br>1 | to not reveal anything about what you heard | | talking about.<br>2 | 2<br>in an attorney/client communication about | | 3<br>Any of them.<br>Q. | 3<br>what your attorneys were doing separately | | 4<br>A. I cannot answer for all of them. | 4<br>from you. | | 5<br>There are so many of them. | 5<br>This needs to be only things that | | Q. Pick one that you gave to your lawyer<br>6 | 6<br>you understand, only things that you did | | at Golden Spring and tell me where it came from.<br>7 | and not things that come from<br>7 | | A. But I don't think that as a lawyer<br>8 | 8<br>understanding about what your attorneys | | 9 that you can say such a general term as any of | did.<br>9 | | 10 them. You know. I don't think this is something | A. My answer is that I don't recall.<br>10 | | 11 that the professional lawyer should say. | Q. Did you look for any documents to<br>11 | | Q. I figured this time there would be an<br>12 | 12 respond in this case? | | 13 actual answer to the question. | 13<br>A.<br>Of course. | | THE INTERPRETER: Is that a question<br>14 | And where did you look?<br>Q.<br>14 | | to the witness?<br>] ર | I don't recall.<br>15<br>A. | | MR. WOLMAN: Strike that.<br>16 | Q. Where would you look if I were to<br>16 | | Madam court reporter, could you<br>17 | 17 reask you those very same questions? | | 18 | 18<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | please repeat my question. | | | THE INTERPRETER: You mean repeat the<br>19 | A. I don't know. I don't quite<br>19 | | interpreting to the witness or are you<br>20<br>asking the court reporter to repeat the | 20 understand really what you mean.<br>Q. The documents you provided to respond<br>21 | | 21 | | | question --<br>22 | 22 to -- or to look for in response to the request | | MR. WOLMAN: Read back the question<br>23 | 23 for production, just appear by magic? | | and then you will reinterpret.<br>24 | MR. GAVENMAN: Again, I caution you,<br>24 | | 25<br>(Record read) | 25<br>anything you know from your attorneys or | | 142<br>A. I don't understand. I don't know that<br>1 | 144<br>attorney/client communications, please don't | | | | | | | | to pick which document.<br>2 | 2<br>reveal those communications. To the extent | | 3<br>And the thing is that you see | 3<br>you know anything outside of that, you're | | there are a thousand pages of the documents and so<br>ব | 4<br>free to answer. | | 5 I should know that to pick which one and to talk | 5<br>A. Well, of course anything that is in | | about it, where it came from.<br>6 | the conversation between myself and my counsel, I<br>6 | | 7<br>And also with the translation, it | 7<br>cannot talk about here. I cannot talk about here. | | 8 says any of the documents, you know. In my life, | 8<br>But as to myself, how did I look for | | 9 I never have anything that is any of the documents | 9 those documents, I just don't remember. I don't | | 10 such a general term. It's either right or wrong. | 10 recall. | | Q. Where were the documents, these<br>11 | 11<br>Q. Where would you go to look for them | | 12 thousands of pages that you assembled to give to | 12 today if you were being asked? | | 13 the lawyer at Golden Spring? | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>13 | | A. I don't know.<br>14 | A. OK, so you see like, for example,<br>14 | | When did you give the documents to<br>Q.<br>ો ર | 15 right, the communication between Marco and Cheng | | 16 this lawyer? | 16 Shuiyan, for example, this kind of evidence, Marco | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>17 | 17 is Cheng Shuiyan's personal employee and they | | A. Well, in the past several years and<br>18 | 18 said, they claimed that they wrote to the DOJ. | | 19 there are so many times, I don't know exactly | 19 And to deport me. And then calling me online | | 20 which specific time that you are talking about. | 20 about that I was a liar and I was a rapist and so | | Q. In response to the second revised<br>21 | 21 on and so forth, and all of that, they | | 22 request for production of documents propounded on | 22 acknowledged and they openly treated that. | | 23 you in this case, tell me what you did to search | 23<br>So you only need to search online | | 24 for documents to produce.<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I have to caution you<br>ટર્ર | 24 to produce that, and that's one way. And they<br>25 make phone call. For example, I make phone call |

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| Conducted on April 1, 2021 | | |---------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 145 | 147 | | to the people that they have talked to in mainland | 1 dollars from him. And that had already been very | | China. I make phone call to Lude who they had<br>2 | 2<br>clear evidence that we -- we act in good faith. And | | 3<br>talked to about that -- about what they want him | of course, the only thing here is we only want to<br>3 | | 4<br>to do or said. | 4<br>tell the truth. | | 5<br>So all of that -- and then I call them | 5<br>Q. Were any of the documents in this case | | 6<br>and got those answers, and so that is a way to | 6<br>provided to you by your attorneys? | | 7<br>search for those, those information. | 7<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection, asked and | | 8<br>And also, like I said, Marco | 8<br>answered about four times. | | 9<br>later on, you know, Marco and Cheng Shuiyan, they | 9<br>MR. WOLMAN: Asked yes, answered no. | | 10 talked about all of things that they have done and | MR. GAVENMAN: He is answering the<br>10 | | 11 they tweeted it online and you search online and | question. It's part of the responsive<br>11 | | 12 you get all this information online and then later | documents -- I don't want a speaking<br>12 | | 13 on, that, you know, after -- at the Nevada case, | objection, but these are -- that's his<br>13 | | 14 he disappeared, Marco disappeared. He was a | answer and there is a reason that's his<br>14 | | 15 personal employee of Cheng Shuiyan. | ાં ર<br>answer. | | So Cheng Shuiyan should be made<br>16 | MR. WOLMAN: Did any of the documents<br>16 | | 17 responsible for whatever he did or said anyway. | you produced come from him?<br>17 | | 18 So all of that was actually appeared online | MR. GAVENMAN: He's clearly answered<br>18 | | 19 because they have many tweeters online and they | that question and I'm not being deposed so<br>19 | | 20 have tweet it out there openly. That is a way to | you can ask questions, he is answering them<br>20 | | 21 search for those information. | 21<br>and we can move on. | | Q. But where would you go to find<br>22 | MR. WOLMAN: He is not answering. He<br>22 | | 23 documents responsive to the requests? | doesn't seem to remember where documents<br>23 | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>24 | were produced or what he produced or where<br>24 | | 25<br>A. Well, for example, when we -- when you | they came from. So I'm asking you.<br>25 | | 146 | 148 | | see that, for example, Cheng Shuiyan reported that<br>1 | MR. GAVENMAN: I'm not being deposed<br>1 | | 2 he have a billion of dollar of asset and he | 2<br>here today. So you can ask a questions -- | | 3<br>purported that he is person, but for all these | MR. WOLMAN: Actually, right now, I'm<br>3 | | kind of purported claim, of course I can call<br>4 | 4<br>engaging with you in a meet and confer | | 5<br>people in China trying to ascertain his, the words | 5<br>because I'm not sure -- | | of his claim. So that is one way to search.<br>6 | MR. GAVENMAN: This is not the time<br>6 | | 7<br>And then also that Cheng Shuiyan | 7<br>and place for a meet and confer while he is | | 8 and Marco, so Marco is his personal employee | 8 being deposed. And I know you know that. | | 9 and he need to be -- Cheng Shuiyan need to be | 9 It's not meet and confer time now. So | | 10 responsible for whatever Marco has said and done | 10 continue your deposition we can meet and | | 11 and so he was his boss. | 11 confer afterwards if you like to. | | So that need to be -- that is open<br>12 | MR. WOLMAN: Well, it seems like it<br>12 | | 13 knowledge and that is the things that we know. | 13 would be useful for us to confer as to | | When we brought the case in<br>14 | 14 whether or not he actually conducted an | | 15 Nevada, we brought the case in good faith. The | 15 appropriate search. And then maybe once we | | 16 proof, the evidence of that is we only claim for a | 16 have established that, well, he didn't | | 17 very small amount and we did not claim for | 17 provide you any documents, we can go with | | 18 millions of dollars even though that he has -- he | 18 that. | | 19 claimed that himself, he had that billion dollars | But if you want, we can keep going,<br>19 | | 20 of this account of assets. | 20 sure. But I was trying to make this easier | | But of course, when we are talking about<br>21 | 21 for you. | | 22 the people in China, subsequently a lot of people | 22<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Thank you for your | | 23 were made disappeared and the thing is that he had | 23 care and concern. As always. Please | | 24 caused me all this destruction and all this kind of | 24 continue. | | 25 a harm, we did not seek millions and millions of | 25<br>MR. WOLMAN: Not a problem. |

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| 149 | 151 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | THE INTERPRETER: Is there a | too much damage, too much of a harm that he has | | 2<br>question, counsel? | caused me.<br>2 | | MR. GAVENMAN: There is not.<br>3 | 3<br>For example, just a simple term, | | 4<br>Q. You said Mr. Cheng caused you a lot of | to him, it's only a simple word. He called me a<br>4 | | 5<br>harm. How do you value that harm? | rapist. But the damage it caused me, how can I<br>5 | | 6<br>A. Well, so it is going to be a very, | account for that? How can anyone just fathom the<br>6 | | 7<br>very long story. You need to have some | damage that it is?<br>7 | | 8<br>preparation. It's going to be a long story. | 8<br>So of course I have to value it | | 9<br>Q. No, I'm asking you how you value the | and then calculating it. I'm in the middle of<br>9 | | 1 () harm. | 10 doing it. | | A. Well, you see, I am at the moment<br>11 | Q. How was it that you came up with<br>11 | | 12 preparing some kind of premises to how to gauge | 12 your claim against Jonathan Ho valued at 5 | | 13 the destruction and harm caused by Cheng Shuiyan. | 13 million; your claim against Jianbin Yuan at 5 | | 14 I have been calling people in Japan, Hong Kong | 14 million; your claim against Liang for 100 million; | | 15 PRC, U.S. and some of the partners before. | 15 your claim against Baotang for 1 million; your | | You see a lot of these people at<br>16 | 16 claim against Eliang Xia for 5 million; your claim | | 17 the moment, they were under threat and they were | 17 against Xianmin Xiong for 100 million? | | 18 not -- they did not want to, you know, be the | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, I will<br>18 | | 19 witness and tell how much threat and how much | 19<br>probably need you to repeat those names. | | 20 damage, and they know that Cheng Shuiyan and | MR. WOLMAN: Sure.<br>20 | | 21 Marco, his personal employee, have caused me | MR. GAVENMAN: I want to caution, to<br>21 | | 22 because they were being sort of under threat and | the extent any of that information, any of<br>22 - | | 23 also they know from the open allegation that made | your understanding about why that was put in<br>23 - | | 24 by Cheng Shuiyan and his personal employee, Marco, | those various complaints or how the value<br>24 - | | 25 that I will be deported by the Department of | was done that came from counsel, you should<br>25 | | 150 | 152 | | Justice to mainland China and I will be deported | not reveal those communications. | | 2 to mainland China and they have made that kind of | 2<br>To the extent that you can answer | | allegation on Twitter, on Geteer, talking about<br>3 | 3<br>that without revealing attorney/client | | 4 that I will be deported -- not only that I will be | communications, you are free to do so.<br>4 | | 5<br>deported. They keep on saying that I will be shot | 5<br>THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, you said 5 | | 6 to death by the Chinese government. And they keep | 6<br>million, the first name is Jonathan? | | repeating that so that cause a lot of fear by a<br>7 | MR. WOLMAN: Jun Chen, also known as<br>7 | | lot of the people that I have worked with in the<br>8 | 8<br>Jonathan Ho. | | 9 past. | டு<br>THE INTERPRETER: And that is one | | So he cost me my consultant jobs<br>10 | 10 person, right? | | 11 and he cost me a lot of this kind of a damage and | MR. WOLMAN: Yes.<br>11 | | 12 it is unaccountable and it would be these, I think | THE INTERPRETER: And that's 5<br>12 | | 13 if I am gauging such kind of a value, I would say | 13 million? | | 14 several tens of millions at least. | MR. WOLMAN: Yes.<br>14 | | ાર<br>Q. You said he cost you a consultant job | THE INTERPRETER: Then 100 million<br>ો ર | | 16 and damages. What consultant job and what damage? | 16 Liang, someone Liang, and 1 million, | | A. I cannot answer them here for you.<br>17 | 17 Baotang, Baotang, 5 million Xia -- | | Q. Why not?<br>18 | 18 something. | | 19<br>A. Because at this point, I just cannot | 19<br>MR. WOLMAN: Y-E-L-I-A-N-G, X-I-A. | | 20 remember them. | THE INTERPRETER: And then 100<br>20 | | 21<br>Q. But somehow -- you can't remember jobs | 21 million, Xiong something? The last name. | | 22 that were valued had a worth of tens of millions | MR. WOLMAN: 100 million was<br>22 | | 23 of dollars? | 23 X-I-A-N-M-I-N, X-I-O-N-G. | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>24<br>25 A. A. It's because -- it's because -- well, | MR. GAVENMAN: One moment please<br>24<br>25 recall my instruction about the attorney/ | | | |

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| 001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 165<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Sure, and then he can | 167<br>suggested and I don't have to tell you that<br>1 | | 2<br>answer that portion -- | 2<br>my lawyer suggested it. | | 3<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | 3<br>Q. So tell me, Mr. Guo, without telling | | 4<br>MR. GAVENMAN: -- and say the | me about any communications you actually had with<br>4 | | attorney/client communications. And he is<br>5 | your lawyers, why did you decide to pull the<br>5 | | free to do that.<br>6 | trigger and have four cases filed on the same day?<br>6 | | 7<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | 7<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Again, to the extent | | MR. WOLMAN: He doesn't have to<br>8 | 8<br>this answer would reveal any amount of any | | reveal attorney/client communications.<br>9 | ರ<br>legal strategy between you and your counsel, | | MR. GAVENMAN: Don't reveal anything<br>10 | you cannot talk about that portion.<br>10 | | 11 that came from an attorney/client | MR. WOLMAN: That is not correct. He<br>11 | | 12 communications, any understanding you had | 12<br>can reveal -- | | 13 that came from it. -- | MR. GAVENMAN: That's my instruction<br>13 | | MR. WOLMAN: Not understanding, not<br>14 | to my client. It's a question for the<br>14 | | 15 an understanding. | judge.<br>ો ર | | He can still tell me why he<br>16 | MR. WOLMAN: That's obstruction. You<br>16 | | 17 wanted to do something without telling | need to learn about privilege, Jeff. That's<br>17 | | 18 me what was discussed. Because he could | not how it works.<br>18 | | 19 think, oh, it's a great idea to do what | MR. GAVENMAN: Jay, very good, thank<br>19 | | 20 my lawyer told me without telling me | you for your help in being so wonderful as<br>20 | | 21 that his lawyer told him that. | 21<br>always. | | MR. GAVENMAN: And I said exactly<br>22 | Please move on. He can't answer<br>22 | | 23 along those lines. | that question if it is about<br>23 | | MR. WOLMAN: No, you didn't.<br>24 | attorney/client privileged information<br>24 | | 25<br>MR. GAVENMAN: If you answer the | and strategy that came from his<br>25 | | | | | 166 | 168 | | question -- | 1<br>attorney. | | 2<br>(Simultaneous crosstalk) | 2<br>If he said he can answer it | | 3<br>MR. GAVENMAN: You asked why you | 3<br>separately, he is free to do so. | | thought it would be a good idea -- I'm<br>4 | 4<br>Answer the question.<br>Q. | | 5 assuming there, some of that portion, at | 5<br>A. Well, there is no other reason really. | | least some of that answer is wrapped up in<br>6 | It's just that we have looked at all the cases,<br>6 | | attorney/client privilege.<br>7 | consolidate, in a consolidated manner, we look at<br>7 | | 8<br>If it's not, to the extent it's | 8<br>all of that, and then the counsel recommended | | 9 not, he is free to answer it. | 9 that, you know, that to put those four cases on | | To the extent it came from<br>10 | 10 the same day and that is all. | | 11 attorney discussions about what certain | Q. I'm a little confused because these<br>11 | | 12 things would happen, why certain things | 12 were filed, two in New York, one in New Jersey, | | 13 would happen certain ways, those are | 13 and one in Virginia. | | 14 privileged communication that he can't | How is this all one counsel<br>14 | | 15 reveal. | 15 having the idea to put them all in the same day? | | 16<br>MR. WOLMAN: He can still say I | I don't know.<br>A.<br>16 | | 17 decided to do something because of "X" even | 17<br>Q. Do you know when cases are filed on | | 18 if it was an idea his attorney told him.<br>19<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Well, if it was a | 18 your behalf?<br>Of course.<br>19<br>A. | | 20 privileged communication and privileged | Well, I'm actually quite curious,<br>20 | | 21 understanding -- | 21 counsel, why are you banging on this question | | MR. WOLMAN: I'm not asking him --<br>22 | 22 about one day filing cases for one day. I mean, | | 23 privileged goes to communications between | 23 it's such a strange and curious question. | | 24 you and your lawyer. Privilege does not go | Why can't the cases be filed on<br>24 |

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| | 169 | 171 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | is wrong?<br>1 | | Q. Do you recall answering<br>1 | | 2<br>It's really if I recall that correctly, | | 2<br>interrogatories in that case? | | 3<br>this is the first time I ever heard of this | | 3<br>A. You mean what response -- what | | 4<br>question. | | 4<br>interrogatory to what case? | | 5<br>In fact, what I am saying, I | | 5<br>Q. Do you recall responding to written | | actually don't remember these four cases were<br>6 | | 6<br>questions in that case? | | 7 filed in one single day. And so that, you know, | | 7<br>A. I don't remember all of it. | | 8 if it were not you who keep on asking about this | | 8<br>Q. In response to interrogatory number 1 | | 9 question about these four cases all filed on the | | 9 in it, it says, quote, I will represent that this | | 10 same day, I would not have known there was such | | 10 is at Bates quote 3733, "Plaintiff responds that | | 11 four cases and they were all filed on the same | | 11 he is an entrepreneur without a salary or income." | | 12 day. I really had no idea. | | Is that statement accurate?<br>12 | | Q. What is your relationship with Eastern<br>13 | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>13 | | 14 Profit Corporation Limited? | | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question<br>14 | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>। ર | | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>ો ર | | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question<br>16 | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>16 | | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>17 | | Q. Are you refusing to answer that<br>17 | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>18 | | 18 question? | | MR. WOLMAN: He filed a lawsuit<br>19 | | 19<br>A. Yes. | | against Strategic Vision in which he<br>20 | | Q. Was that statement accurate on the<br>20 | | 21<br>acknowledged that he was principle of | | 21 date it was made and filed being November 18, | | 22<br>that -- | | 22 2019? | | 23<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I understand. | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>23 | | MR. WOLMAN: -- in the Southern<br>24 | | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question<br>24 | | 25<br>District of New York. | | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>25 | | | 170 | 172 | | 1<br>MR. GAVENMAN: I understand. | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>l | | 2<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | | 2<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | | 3<br>THE INTERPRETER: I haven't | | 3<br>A.<br>Yes. | | 4<br>interpreted. | | 4<br>Q. Did you reach a settlement in the case | | 5<br>MR. WOLMAN: Thank you. | | 5<br>with Mr. Xianmin Xiong? | | 6<br>A. Yes. | | A. Well, first of all, I must tell you<br>6 | | 7<br>How is our timing? Thave | | that the pronunciation of that name was wrong,<br>7 | | 8<br>other obligations. | | right?<br>8 | | ல்<br>MR. WOLMAN: I think I still have at | | 9<br>And the thing is I can say that | | 10<br>least another hour. | | 10 even to this date, that case was not entirely | | 11<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Fifty-nine minutes. | | 11 settled. | | 12<br>Q. You provided to us in your discovery | | Q. Are you aware that a stipulation of<br>12 | | 13 responses your responses and objections to | | 13 discontinuance was filed on September 15, 2020? | | 14 interrogatories in a lawsuit against by you | | A. Well, that's only one of the cases and<br>14 | | 15 against Xianmin Xiong, X-I-A-N-M-I-N, X-I-O-N-G. | | 15 there are other cases that were in connection with | | Do you recall answering<br>16 | | 16 Xianmin Xiong as well. | | 17 interrogatories in that matter? | | 17<br>Q. That case was dismissed with | | | | | | A. I actually don't know this person,<br>18<br>19 Xianmin Xiong, or perhaps it is the interpreter | | 18 prejudice, correct?<br>A. That is not true.<br>19 | | | | | | | | | | 20 did not interpret the name right. | | Q. Are you saying that the document filed<br>20 | | Q. Also known as X-I, N-U-O, also known<br>21 | | 21 on New York State's court electronic system is | | 22 as Frank, also known as Xino, also known as | | 22 incorrect? | | 23 X-I-N-O. | | 23<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form. | | 24<br>A. So the name is Xiong Xianmin, I know,<br>25 I know this case. | | A. Well, perhaps the document was not<br>24<br>25 wrong, but then there are so many other cases that |

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| 173 | ો 75 | |-------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | were -- that has some connection with Xiong | system for New York's courts between you and | | 2<br>Xianmin as well. | Xianmin Xiong other than the one that was<br>2 | | 3<br>Q. Did Xiong Xianmin or however you | 3<br>dismissed by a stipulation? | | 4<br>pronounce that or anyone on his behalf make any | 4<br>I don't know.<br>A. | | 5<br>payment in exchange for that case being | 5<br>Q. Who is Yanping Wang a/k/a Yvette Wang? | | discontinued with prejudice?<br>6 | A. She is from Golden Spring.<br>6 | | 7<br>A. No. | 7<br>Q. And what is her job at Golden Spring? | | 8<br>Q. Why would you have it discontinued | 8<br>So she is the president.<br>A. | | 9<br>with prejudice without any payment? | Q. Do you know anything about her lawsuit<br>9 | | MR. GAVENMAN: To the extent you can<br>10 | 10 against Xianmin Xiong? | | answer that without revealing any legal<br>11 | Yes.<br>A.<br>11 | | strategy communicated between you and your<br>12 | Q. What your role with respect to that<br>12 | | counsel, you're free to answer.<br>13 | 13 lawsuit, if any? | | A. Well, that was the strategy that I had<br>14 | A. No.<br>14 | | 15 together with my counsel. | Q. Have you spoken with Ms. Wang<br>15 | | Q. You sued that gentleman for 100 | | | 16 | 16 regarding this lawsuit? | | 17 million dollars. Do you not recall that? | A. No.<br>17 | | A. Yes.<br>18 | Q. I want to make sure I understand.<br>18 | | Q. How did it benefit you to dismiss that<br>19 | You have -- are you -- Yanping Wang,<br>19 | | 20 case without getting a dime in recovery? | 20 also known as Yvette Wang, is the president of | | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection to form.<br>21 | 21 Golden Spring that is financing your defense in | | 22<br>Objection to form and same caution. | 22 this case and has otherwise paid the judgments to | | 23<br>A. Well, that is actually a strategy that | 23 my client, but you have never discussed this case | | 24 we have arrived between myself and my counsel. | 24 with her, correct? | | Q. I understand. I don't need to know if<br>25 | MR. GAVENMAN: Object to form.<br>25 | | 174 | 176 | | a lawyer told you. I need to know how it<br>1 | 1<br>A.<br>Yes. | | 2<br>benefited you. | 2<br>Q. Does Golden Spring New York Limited | | 3<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Same caution. | 3<br>have a treasurer? | | 4<br>A. Well, the whole matter has not been | Of course there is.<br>4<br>A. | | 5<br>concluded. | 5<br>Q. Have you discussed this case with that | | 6<br>Q. What part of it is still ongoing since | 6<br>treasurer? | | 7<br>it was dismissed with prejudice? | 7<br>No.<br>A. | | 8<br>A. Well, I cannot just -- I cannot tell | Q. What is the name of the treasurer of<br>8 | | 9 you because that is the strategy that I and my | 9 Golden Spring Limited? | | 10 counsel arrived at. | I don't know.<br>10<br>A. | | Q. Is that counsel Mr. Steinberg?<br>11 | Q. Other than Ms. Wang, who can you<br>11 | | One of them.<br>12<br>A. | 12 identify as being an officer of Golden Spring? | | 13<br>Q. Have you filed any other lawsuits | I don't know.<br>13<br>A. | | 14 against Xianmin Xiong or however you pronounce it? | | | | Q. How did Golden Spring know to pay the<br>14 | | A.<br>Yes.<br>15 | 15 judgment against you by Mr. Cheng in the Nevada | | Where? In what court?<br>16<br>0. | 16 case? | | New York.<br>17<br>A. | A. Well, lawyers communication.<br>17 | | Have you produced a copy of that<br>18<br>(). | Q. Do you know the person -- who the<br>18 | | 19 complaint? | 19 person was at Golden Spring who initiated the wire | | I don't recall.<br>A.<br>20 | 20 transfers to our firm? | | 21<br>Q. When did you file this new case | I don't know.<br>21<br>A. | | | Q. Do you know who is authorized at<br>22 | | 22 against Xianmin Xiong?<br>23<br>A. I don't recall. | 23 Golden Spring to initiate wire transfers of funds? | | Q. Do you know if there is any reason why<br>24 | I don't know.<br>24<br>A. | | 25 there is no case currently on the electronic | Q. You produced to us some text messages<br>ટર |

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| 181 | 183 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | I don't recall.<br>1<br>A. | Q. I'm asking you, do you want to change | | 2<br>Q. Is anybody, other than you, authorized | 2<br>any of your answers? | | 3<br>to deposit checks made payable to you? | 3<br>A. OK, so the changes that you see, all | | 4<br>I don't know.<br>A. | of these things that I just mentioned about,<br>4 | | Q. Have you filed income tax returns for<br>5 | right, and it's actually -- I remember when I<br>5 | | 6<br>calendar year 2020? | 6 answer you, I said that is May, but it actually | | 7<br>Of course.<br>A. | 7 started all in March, 2018, all the way through to | | 8<br>Q. Did you include this 12,000 dollar | 8 August, and then I sue him in September of 2018. | | payment for judgment as income in that tax return?<br>9 | 9 So that would be the change I would like to make. | | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel,<br>10 | Q. Moving back to your lawsuit with<br>10 | | 11<br>Mr. Guo declines to answer the question | 11 Baosheng in Virginia, paragraph 107 of the | | invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>12 | 12 complaint in that matter states, "Guo acted on | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>13 | 13 these false representations and relied on them | | 14<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | 14 when he gave Baosheng 42,000 dollars in total." | | Yes.<br>15<br>A. | My question to you is, what was the<br>ો ર | | Q. Are there any answers you've given<br>16 | 16 source of the 42,000 dollars? | | 17 today -- now that you have had a day to think | MR. WOLMAN: And before you make your<br>17 | | 18 about it that you wish to change? | speaking objection --<br>18 | | 19<br>A.<br>Yes. | MR. GAVENMAN: No, it's on advice of<br>19 | | Q.<br>20<br>And what is that? | counsel to respond to question --<br>20 | | A. Well, you see for the matter of Marco<br>21 | MR. WOLMAN: I want to make sure --<br>21 | | 22 and his employee relationship with Cheng Shuiyan | this case, this case went to trial, so I'm<br>22 | | 23 and they have sent out tweet messages, online | asking -- so he obviously put forth evidence<br>23 - | | 24 messages, and for the time they send the message | of that payment to Baosheng. So my question<br>24 | | 25 and the content of the message and also the | is -- that's already now out in the public<br>25 | | | | | | | | 182 | 184 | | 1 relationship -- and also that the message is sent | and public record. So my question here is | | 2 between them to Wang Ding Gang via WhatsApp and | 2<br>what was the source of that money?<br>MR. GAVENMAN: Mr. Guo declines to<br>3 | | 3 also just the matter that the personnel from | 4 | | 4 Bejing visiting Cheng Shuiyan and gifting him<br>5 millions of U.S. dollars and so as to start his | testify about that matter here today,<br>invoking his rights under the Fifth<br>5 | | 6 changing of the -- the turn of the event with me, | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>6 | | 7 all these matters, I should start from the | 7 | | 8 beginning to tell you that. | Q. Are you refusing to answer?<br>8<br>THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, let me | | ರ | interpret everything that just happened.<br>ರ | | And also the contents involving<br>10 Cheng Shuiyan of defaming me on Twitter, this | Yes.<br>10<br>A. | | 11 platform, concerning about my family and calling | 11<br>Did you testify at a trial in that<br>Q. | | 12 me rapist and calling me a hooligan, calling me | 12 case? | | 13 low class, a peasant, and not even -- low class | 13<br>Yes.<br>A. | | 14 peasant and talking about me having a big deal | 14<br>Q. Did you testify that you paid Baosheng | | 15 with Xi Jinping, all of that, I would also like to | 15 Guo 42,000 dollars? | | 16 start to tell you that. | A. Well, Baosheng Guo was 2011 the<br>16 | | And also that I would like to<br>17 | 17 partner of Cheng Shuiyan in this whole business of | | 18 tell you about the matter that Cheng Shuiyan | 18 attacking me and the fact that he is one of the | | 19 talking about on Twitter in relation to writing to | 19 persons who attacked me together with Cheng | | 20 the ministry -- minister of or department head of | 20 Shuiyan the most. | | 21 DOJ and claiming that he is to -- they are going | MR. WOLMAN: I'm asking the court<br>21 | | 22 to deport me to China and telling that I was a | reporter, move to strike as nonresponsive.<br>22 | | 23 criminal and I was a wanted person, all these | Q. Did you testify that you paid, you<br>23 | | 24 matters, I would like to actually tell you about | 24 paid Baosheng Guo 42,000 dollars? |

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| | o onated on the round of some | | | | |----------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------|----------------------------------------------------|--| | | 185<br>Q. Did you write a check to Baosheng Guo | | 187<br>MR. WOLMAN: I'm going to -- I'm | | | | | 2 | going to suspend the deposition at this | | | 2<br>for the various amounts he requested? | | 3 | point pending the issues regarding the | | | 3<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | | 4 | claims of Fifth Amendment privilege. | | | 4 | Q. How did money go from you to the -- | 5 | THE WITNESS: Thank you very much. | | | 5 | how did 42,000 dollars go from you to Baosheng | 6 | (Time noted: 6:16 p.m.) | | | 6<br>Guo? | | 7 | | | | 7 | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of counsel, | 8 | | | | 8 | Mr. Guo declines to respond to the question | | HOWAN KWOK | | | 9<br>invoking his rights under the Fifth | | 9 | | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>10 | | 10 | Subscribed and sworn to | | | 11<br>Q. Are you refusing to answer? | | 11 | before me this<br>day | | | 12<br>A.<br>Yes. | | | 12 of MO<br>、2021. | | | 13 | Q. From whatever account or accounts that | 13 | | | | | 14 you used to pay Baosheng Guo, how much money is in | 14 | | | | 15 them now? | | ોર્ડ | | | | 16 | MR. GAVENMAN: On advice of Mr. Guo's | 16 | | | | 17 | counsel, Mr. Guo declines to respond to the | 17 | | | | 18 | question invoking his rights under the Fifth | 18 | | | | Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<br>19 | | 19 | | | | Q. Do you have any records of the<br>20 | | 20 | | | | 21 payments to Mr. Guo, Baosheng Guo? | | 21 | | | | 22<br>I don't recall.<br>A. | | 22 | | | | 23 | Q. Who would have records -- strike that. | 23 | | | | 24 | | 24 | | | | | Were records of those payments | 25 | | | | 25 introduced as evidence in the trial between you | | | | | | | 186 | | 188<br>INDEX: | | | and Baosheng Guo?<br>1 | | | WITNESS<br>EXAM BY:<br>PAGE: | | | 2<br>A. Yes. | | 2 | | | | 3<br>Q. Do you have control over those | | 3 | H. Kwok<br>Mr. Wolman<br>6 | | | 4<br>exhibits? | | 4 | | | | 5 | MR. GAVENMAN: Objection, objection | 5 | EXHIBIT INDEX: | | | 6<br>to form. | | 6 | DESCRIPTION<br>NUMBER<br>PAGE: | | | 7 | A. I am not quite sure I understand what | 7 | Exhibit 1 Amended Notice of Deposition<br>20 | | | 8<br>you mean. | | 8 | Exhibit 2 Defendant Wengui Guo's<br>23 | | | 9 | Q. Do you or your attorneys have copies | ் | Verified Statement Pursuant to | | | 10 of the exhibits introduced at the trial between | | 10 | Local Civil Rule 26.1 | | | 11 you and Baosheng Guo? | | | 11 Exhibit 3 document entitled "Complaint"<br>107 | | | 12 | A. I actually don't quite understand what | | 12 Exhibit 4 Complaint and Jury Demand<br>122 | | | 13 you -- what your question means. I don't | | | 13 Exhibit 5 Defendant Wengui Guo's Answer<br>122 | | | 14 understand. | | 14 | to the Complaint | | | ો ર<br>Q. What is Broadcasting Board of | | | 15 Exhibit 6 Defendant Wengui Guo's Initial 123 | | | 16 Governors? | | 16 | Disclosures | | | 17 | THE INTERPRETER: Counsel, is that a | | 17 Exhibit 7 Defendant Wengui Guo's<br>ો ટેરે | | | 18<br>company or is that -- | | 18 | Objections and Responses to | | | 19<br>MR. WOLMAN: A company. | | 19 | Plaintiff Logan Cheng's Second | | | 20 | THE INTERPRETER: It is a company? | 20 | Revised First Set of Requests | | | 21 | | | | | | | MR. WOLMAN: An entity. Yes. | 21 | for Production of Documents | | | 22 | A. I cannot understand exactly what this | 22 | | | | | | 23 | | | | 24 | 23 means. I don't understand this question at all.<br>THE INTERPRETER: Did we have any | 24 | | | | questions?<br>25 | | 25 | | |

| | | | Conducted on April 1, 2021 | |------|-----------------------------------------|-----|----------------------------| | | | 189 | | | 1 | EXHIBIT INDEX: | | | | 2 | DESCRIPTION<br>NUMBER<br>PAGE: | | | | 3 | Exhibit 8 Defendant Wengui Guo's | 125 | | | | | | | | 4 | Objections and Answers to | | | | 5 | Plaintiff Logan Cheng's First | | | | 6 | Set of Interrogatories | | | | 7 | | | | | 8 | | | | | 9 | | | | | 10 | | | | | 11 | | | | | | | | | | 12 | | | | | 13 | | | | | 14 | | | | | ા ર | | | | | 1 Q | | | | | 17 | | | | | 18 | | | | | 19 | | | | | 20 | | | | | | | | | | 21 | | | | | 22 | | | | | 23 | | | | | 24 | | | | | 25 | | | | | | | 190 | | | l | CERTIFICATE | | | | 2 | STATE OF NEW JERSEY ) | | | | | )ss: | | | | 3 | COUNTY OF UNION | | | | 4 | I, MARY F. BOWMAN, a Registered | | | | 5 | Professional Reporter, Certified | | | | 6 | Realtime Reporter, and Notary Public | | | | 7 | within and for the States of New York | | | | 8 | and New Jersey, do hereby certify: | | | | 9 | That HOWAN KWOK, the witness | | | | 10 | whose deposition is hereinbefore set | | | | 11 | forth, was duly sworn by me and that | | | | 12 | such deposition is a true record of the | | | | 13 | testimony given by such witness. | | | | 14 | I further certify that I am not | | | | ાર | related to any of the parties to this | | | | 16 | action by blood or marriage and that I | | | | 17 | am in no way interested in the outcome | | | | 18 | of this matter. | | | | 19 | In witness whereof, I have | | | | 20 | hereunto set my hand this 2nd day of | | | | 21 | April, 2021. | | | | 22 | | | | | 23 | | | | | | MARY F. BOWMAN, RPR, CRR | | | | 24 | | | | | ટર્ડ | | | | | | | | |

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#### Case 22:5007:30 - DoO5I6231KPFiled@3/10/02/254Enteried003/113:56:161 of age 61 of 92

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| 128:17, 128:18, | discontinued | document | 120:20, 122:18, | |------------------|------------------|----------------------------------|-------------------| | 128:23, 128:24, | 173:6, 173:8 | 3:19, 18:16, | 123:10, 124:4, | | 129:2, 129:13 | discourse | 18:25, 22:8, | 125:11, 127:24, | | devices | 6:22 | 22:13, 22:18, | 128:1, 128:2, | | 102:22, 128:5 | discovery | 22:21, 23:3, | 132:25, 137:10, | | diagnosed | 170:12 | 24:6, 25:2, | 139:2, 139:6, | | 127:19 | discuss | 32:23, 32:25, | 139:8, 139:10, | | difference | 82:14, 83:21 | 33:2, 33:5, | 139:17, 140:5, | | 17:12 | discussed | 33:11, 33:13, | 140:7, 140:11, | | different | 19:13, 20:13, | 33:17, 106:5, | 140:24, 142:4, | | 11:14, 16:17, | 80:17,<br>80:21, | 106:15, 106:21, | 142:8, 142:9, | | 41:19, 118:16, | 81:4, 81:9, | 106:22,<br>107:4, | 142:11, 142:15, | | 128:10, 159:2 | 157:20, 160:9, | 112:25, 120:24, | 142:22, 142:24, | | dime | 163:21, 165:18, | 121:1, 121:10, | 143:11, 143:21, | | 173:20 | 175:23, 176:5 | 121:14, 121:16, | 144:9, 145:23, | | ding | discusses | 121:23, 122:2, | 147:5, 147:12, | | 92:12,<br>91:18, | 159:24, 160:1 | 122:10, 122:21, | 147:16, 147:23, | | 92:19,<br>93:3, | discussing | 122:23, 123:5, | 148:17, 154:23, | | 113:11, 182:2 | 17:3, 178:6 | 123:8, 123:13, | 178:14, 188:21 | | dinner | discussion | 123:16, 124:6, | doing | | 134:15 | 163:19 | 124:7, 124:10, | 21:2,<br>60:19, | | direct | discussions | 124:14, 125:9, | 61:11, 61:16, | | 10:17, 43:1, | 166:11 | 125:17, 125:20, | 61:23,<br>67:25, | | 92:3 | dishonesty | 126:16, 126:25, | 84:14,<br>85:8, | | directed | 15:15, 15:19 | 128:3, 133:4, | 116:4,<br>85:23, | | 53:9 | dismiss | 133:7, 135:16, | 117:15, 117:16, | | directly | 173:19 | 135:22, 135:23, | 136:16, 143:3, | | 51:18, 161:17 | dismissed | 136:8,<br>135:25, | 151:10 | | director | 172:17, 174:7, | 136:21, 136:23, | doj | | 39:14 | 175:3 | 137:1, 137:15, | 110:16, 110:17, | | directors | displayed | 137:24, 139:23, | 135:18, 135:24, | | 39:19 | 100:3, 100:6 | 140:2, 140:4, | 135:25,<br>140:3, | | directs | displaying | 141:1, 142:2, | 144:18, 182:21 | | 6:25 | 106:21, 122:22 | 159:24, 172:20, | dollar | | disagree | dispose | 172:24, 188:11 | 132:13, 146:2, | | 69:11 | 99:11, 103:2, | documents | 178:17, 180:23, | | disappeared | 103:5 | 20:14, 24:12, | 181:8 | | 57:17, 57:23, | disposed | 42:25, 54:16, | dollars | | 95:3, 95:4, | 99:21, 100:12 | 54:17, 54:19, | 93:2, 108:3, | | 116:13, 134:12, | disruption | 54:24, 55:8, | 115:6, 130:22, | | 145:14, 146:23 | 154:10 | 96:22, 97:3, | 131:3, 132:4, | | disappointment | district | 97:4, 97:9, | 146:18, 146:19, | | 120:18 | 1:1, 1:2, 6:11, | 97:10, 98:6,<br>98:17, 99:2, | 147:1, 150:23, | | disclosures | 6:12, 155:23, | | 159:25, 160:19, | | 117:2, 122:25, | 155:24, 169:25, | 99:6, 100:13, | 173:17, 178:20, | | 123:3, 188:16 | 178:10, 180:24, | 100:24, 100:25, | 178:23, 179:13, | | discontinuance | 180:25 | 101:2, 103:8,<br>103:18, 111:10, | 179:18, 180:18, | | 172:13 | docket | | 182:5, 183:14, | | | 178:16 | | | | | | | |

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Transcript of Howan Kwok Conducted on April 1, 2021

183:16, 184:15, 154:21 emphasize 17:21, 18:12, 184:24, 185:5 earlier 34:5, 34:12, 112:23, 123:8 done 14:10, 39:21, 47:8, 52:21, emphasized 52:22, 52:23, 20:10, 53:24, 89:17, 99:15, 108:6 78:24, 79:2, 79:18, 81:24, 126:7, 156:1. employed 107:5, 112:25, 87:10, 110:20, 178:6, 180:15 11:25, 32:7, 120:19, easier 113:1, 122:18, 145:10, 55:24, 91:2 146:10, 151:25, 148:20 123:8, 123:9, employee 128:20, 128:21 154:1 eastern 91:17, 39:10, enormous door 169:13, 178:10, 92:12, 93:14, 153:18 110:23 180:24 94:6, 96:14, down enough easy 97:20, 97:25, 10:18, 85:19, 130:22, 12:3, 138:25 101:9, 108:13, 133:12, 138:7, 22:23, 23:1, education 108:17, 109:3, 63:16, 123:11, 138:25 89:20 109:7, 110:17, 157:15 113:12, ensure effect 114:9, 6:21, 7:4, downloading 131:13, 132:24, 4 : 1 7 43:3 120:20 135:1, 135:2, effort downstairs 135:18, 144:17, entered 91:24 145:15, 36:7 54:23 146:8, efforts 149:21, 149:24, entire drinking 102:25 153:17, 181:22 88:2, 99:18 76:5, 115:4 eight drive employees entirely 81:17 3:5 57:16, 57:21, 172:10 69:11, either 96:12 entitled driver's 9:18, 12:25, employment 10:1 106:22, 120:6, 13:12, 53:2, 12:2, 89:24 160:17, 188:11 duly 74:19, 80:12, empty entity 190:12 6:3, 80:18, 80:19, 65:10 57:9, 186:21 duplicated 97:17, 98:2, encouragement entrepreneur 9:14 107:4, 122:17, 91:24 during 142:10, 161:17, 171:11 end 177:22 equivalent 21:2, 94:24, 92:18, 110:1, electronic 34:13 98:22, 98:24, 100:5, 107:1, 172:21, 127:12 100:9, erased endorse 101:6, 105:21, 174:25 134:11 105:24, 134:15, eliang 180:23 escape 155:6 151:16 enemy 129:21 elicit 57:16, 78:2, esq E 115:11, 115:13, 72:25 3:7, 3:8, 3:15 e-mail eliminating 115:15 establish 65:20, 65:22, engaged 82:24, 83:4 25:7, 93:21 65:23, 65:24, 156:13, 156:16 elliott established 66:2, 66:3, engaging 78:4 71:17, 90:5, 66:5, 104:19, ellis 148:4 148:16 105:2 english 179:10, 179:14 estimate each 5:15, 5:16, else 157:23 6:16, 105:3, 17:7, 6:19, estimated 80:22, 82:6, 108:5, 108:8, 17:8, 17:15, 112:1 136:5

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Conducted on April 1, 2021 ethnicity 147:2, 183:23, 121:15, 121:17, 158:6 185:25 122:2, 122:22, faces 158:19, 159:2, 159:8 exact 122:24, 123:23, 158:7 123:24, 123:25, evaluated 70:25 fact 124:21, 127:22, 153:9, exactly 78:9, 153:11 78:20, 188:5, 188:7, evaluation 77:17, 77:22, 87:9, 91:15, 188:8, 188:11, 95:3, 97:1, 153:13 78:10, 88:4, even 95:25, 96:1, 188:12, 188:13, 97:8, 97:22, 188:15, 188:17, 52:25, 101:13, 109:5, 97:24, 98:21, 6:18, 142:19, 189:1, 189:3 113:7, 104:15, 110:9, 54:18, 65:25, exhibits 165:22, 177:9, 110:13, 111:19, 71:16, 78:21, 186:4, 186:10 186:22 113:25, 114:16, 86:22, 100:23, exist exam 115:9, 154:14, 116:3, 146:18, 60:6 169:5, 153:16, 156:19, 188:2 160:6, examination expect 184:18 166:17, 172:10, 180:6, 182:13 6:5 164:18 facts expensive 122:5, 153:12 event example 92:22 factual 34:7, 182:6 34:19, ever 56:4, 87:13, explain 94:18, 115:9 faith 7:16, 144:14, 144:16, 137:22 11:21, 144:25, 14:12, 145:25, explaining 131:1, 131:21, 32:24, 146:1, 151:3, 132:21, 52:9, 52:12, 106:13 146:15, 63:13, 65:23, 156:23 explanation 147:2, 153:22, excellent 154:2 65:24, 66:3, 137:25 66:19, 116:25, 139:13, false 69:16, exploring 140:16 46:7, 70:3, 91:2, 85:1 46:16, 102:9, 102:16, except 46:25, 67:9. exposing 103:4, 105:6, 4:9 71:5, 71:6, 88:9 123:5, 138:21, 73:9, 183:13 exception extends 138:23, 161:17, familiar 42:19 164:2 169:3, 180:17, 8:21, 15:21, excess extent 180:22 17:8, 23:8, 132:3 31:21, 69:22, every 43:15, 47:5, exchange 90:14, 90:17, 24:11, 21:1, 48:17, 111:17, 93:14, 173:5 103:11, 103:24, 59:22, 98:3, 160:21, 177:2 excuse 104:3, 122:8, 98:4, 101:9, family 114:22, 130:3, 130:5, 130:11, 129:21, 129:24 66:18, 67:3, 133:17, 133:18, 144:2, 151:22, everybody 77:7, 78:19, 133:19 152:2, 153:2, 55:22, 55:24 86:15, 86:21, executed 163:13, 163:25, everyone 87:4, 87:14, 14:4, 24:3 164:4, 166:8, 57:20 101:8, 101:12, exhibit 166:10, 167:7, 114:7, 131:6, everything 173:10 18:21, 18:23, 182:11 65:10, 66:11, 19:2, 19:8. F family's 184:9 22:11, 22:14, fabricated 108:21, 131:8 evidence 32:20, 33:14, 66:1, 111:15, 96:15, 113:4, far 106:20, 106:22, 132:25, 133:6 57:13, 83:14, 113:18, 114:23, 112:20, 112:24, face 105:20, 161:7 144:16, 146:16, 120:25, 121:2, 132:4, 156:23,

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| 34:17, 43:13, | 119:20 | fully | qenerally | |----------------------------------|----------------------------------|---------------------|-------------------------| | 44:5, 48:23, | four | 122:2 | 19:17, 19:21 | | 49:2, 56:9, | 14:16, 147:8, | function | generate | | 56:13, 56:20, | 154:17, 163:10, | 104:25, 129:7 | 49:25 | | 57:24,<br>64:10, | 167:6, 168:9, | fund | gentleman | | 66:14,<br>80:6, | 169:6, 169:9, | 57:5 | 173:16 | | 87:15,<br>92:4, | 169:11 | fundamental | georgetown | | 104:9, 104:21, | frame | 71:21, 137:3 | 3:13 | | 107:15, 112:21, | 112:17 | funded | geteer | | 115:23, 119:19, | frank | 56:23, 56:25 | 58:7,<br>58:11, | | 129:4, 129:18, | 170:22 | funds | 58:22,<br>58:12, | | 138:1, 139:5, | fraud | 51:2, 176:23 | 97:21, 101:1, | | 139:15, 139:18, | 41:3,<br>45:9, | funny | 150:3 | | 140:18, 142:17, | 45:21, 73:24, | 39:17 | getting | | 143:18, 144:13, | 74:1, 74:3, | further | 51:2,<br>53:13, | | 145:24, 150:24, | 74:12 | 4 : 8 ,<br>4 : 13 , | 72:8,<br>72:23, | | 154:19, 155:8, | fraudulent | 11:4,<br>90:6, | 78:11, 126:23, | | 156:7, 156:18, | 96:22 | 157:15, 190:15 | 173:20 | | 158:15, 160:11, | free | ர | gift | | 160:12, 161:4, | 16:12, 122:9, | g-e-t | 93:2 | | 172:23, 173:21, | 144:4, 152:4, | 59:3 | qifting | | 173:22, 175:25, | 163:17, 164:6, | g-e-t-e-e-r | 182:4 | | 180:3, 180:4,<br>180:19, 180:20, | 165:6, 166:9, | 58:21, 58:23 | gifts | | 186:6 | 168:3, 173:13 | g-u-o | 92:22 | | formal | freedom | 8:21, 9:7, | girlfriend | | 83:6 | 92:14, 92:24, | 16:3, 17:12, | 81:8 | | formally | 94:21, 109:4 | 18:5 | girls | | 5:3 | freezing | gang | 54:23 | | formed | 159:25 | 91:18,<br>92:12, | give | | 163:25 | friend | 92:19,<br>93:3, | 15:6,<br>5:15, | | forth | 87:5, 87:21 | 113:11, 182:2 | 43:2,<br>62:6, | | 54:21, 55:2, | friends | gauge | 68:20, 123:15, | | 93:24, 144:21, | 54:25, 86:15, | 149:12 | 134:20, 139:13, | | 157:23, 183:23, | 86:21,<br>87:14<br>front | gauging | 139:17, 140:25, | | 190:12 | | 150:13 | 142:12, 142:15, | | forward | 53:1, 105:17,<br>123:10, 123:16, | gave | 155:1, 177:23,<br>178:1 | | 86:1, 111:4, | 123:18, 128:12, | 14:10, 70:1, | given | | 111:11, 111:15, | 128:16 | 115:25, 116:2, | 9:12, 9:15, | | 112:14, 113:6, | frozen | 140:22, 141:6, | 11:22, 14:25, | | 153:22 | 160:19 | 178:2, 183:14 | 93:1, 93:16, | | forwarded | fugitive | gavenman's | 115:5, 181:16, | | 133:25, 134:2 | 160:18 | 51:16, 51:18, | 190:14 | | found | full | 158:6 | gives | | 127:6, 177:13, | 101:8, 112:15, | general | 136:11 | | 177:15, 177:18, | 131:1, 131:17, | 7:1, 26:12, | giving | | 180:6 | 132:17, 132:21, | 26:15, 141:9, | 96:21,<br>97:2, | | foundation | 159:4 | 142:10 | 136:16, 136:22 | | 104:22, 107:16, | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

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Conducted on April 1, 2021 141:20 118:6, 118:12, 10:10, 35:8, 114:17, 167:15, 119:15, interrogatories 119:10, 50:17, 71:8, 179:10, 179:14 120:10, 124:24, 125:2, 119:25, 136:14, 162:15, judgment 130:9, 167:19 30:13, 170:14, 170:17, 120:16, 30:11, 159:16, 159:22, jeff 171:2, 189:6 30:17, 52:6, 161:22, 162:23, 12:23, 28:11, interrogatory 52:7, 52:10, 163:5, 169:17, 34:10, 176:15, 181:9 42:16, 140:8, 171:4, 171:8 171:15, 171:25, 50:8, 61:17, judgments 181:12, 184:5, 69:25, 86:7, interview 175:22 185:9, 185:18 98:22, 98:23, 118:9, 156:23. juliet involve 156:24, 156:25, 98:24, 100:4, 3:19, 120:23, 32:2 167:17 130:16 100:6, 123:21 involved jeffrey interviewed july 37:1, 3:15 95:2, 98:22 53:22 101:6 involving jersey interviewing jumping 94:24 15:15, 15:18, 2:11, 168:12, 123:21 78:14, 182:9 190:2, 190:9 interviews iun iphone jian 116:12 152:7 introduced 105:9, 105:12 91:19 june jianbin irony 185:25, 186:10 92:8, 99:25, 153:24 151:13 investigation 101:6, 108:14. jinping irrelevant 41:2, 41:14 110:1 27:3, 77:21, 108:3, 182:15 invocation junk 84:14, 87:3, job 79:17, 162:1, 89:3 87:16, 89:2, 1:17, 89:22, 162:3 jury 180:3 89:25, 90:10, invoke 14:1, 121:2, irresponsible 90:24, 115:22, 67:20, 90:11 121:6, 188:12 34:24 115:24, 115:25, invoked justice irresponsibly 117:15, 116:2, 39:21 45:21, 78:4, 27:3 117:17, 117:20, invoking 131:14, 132:25, 150:15, issue 117:22, 134:7, 135:14, 12:9, 12:21, 150:16, 175 : 7 50:12, 50:14, 150:1 24:20, 30:4, jobs 71:1, 81:22 30:20, 31:4, K issued 150:10, 150:21 31:13, 37:8, k-w-o-k joining 9:18, 38:2, 38:15, 10:1, 8:12, 8:14, 79:9 10:5, 52:6, 40:5, 40:19, 9:7, 11:12, joke 41:6, 111:7 41:16, 11:16, 16:4, issues 157:19 42:4, 42:14, 17:13, 18:1 127:4, 187:3 jolley 44:13, 45:2, keep 45:12, 45:24, itself 101:17 88:24, 99:19, 46:11, 164:12, 164:15 jonathan 46:21, 129:20, 130:1, 48:12, 49:17, 151:12, 152:6, J 148:19, 150:5, 50:6, 50:19, 152:8 150:6, 157:22, janover 74:9, 67:14, judge 43:16 169:8 74:23, 75:6, 79:15, 79:19, kept japan 75:18, 76:1, 86:23, 87:19, 108:17, 128:3, 93:20, 149:14 76:14, 76:24, 88:14, 88:16, 135:2 jay 90:3, 91:6, 88:22, 88:25, 3:7, 6:9,

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kidnap 12:12, 13:8, 9:1, 15:24, 158:22, 159:1, 78:6 13:19, 16:6, 16:2, 27:13, 159:7, 159:9, killer 18:9, 18:13, 28:14, 29:10, 159:13, 163:22, 19:5, 47:9, 47:12, 167:5, 176:17, 132:19 19:11, 43:8, 50:21, 48:9, 49:11, 177:12, 177:16, killers 66:10, 75:11, 113:6, 113:9, 177:17, 177:24, 108:2 89:10, 127:23, 131:1, 169:19, 178:1 kind 130:7, 160:2, 170:14, 175:9, learn 21:15, 34:23, 180:10, 187:9, 175:13, 175:16, 167:17 53:24, 54:14, 188:3, 190:10 178:9, 183:10 least 55:7, 59:7, lawsuits L 14:11, 35:21, 64:10, 86:25, 28:22, 53:21, 78:19, 130:22, 87:1, 88:11, lake 82:18, 174:13 150:14, 166:6, 93:21, 94:2, 3:5 lawyer 170:10 96:1, 97:8, language 6:24, 16:18, left 108:23, 128:18, 6:21, 17:15. 131:15, 131:20, 23:20, 23:22, 59:16, 61:2, 54:20 17:22, 25:10, 25:11, 94:5 133:13, 134:16, large 26:11, 28:11, legal 134:18, 136:3, 96:21 34:21, 36:4, 144:16, 146:4, 3:3, 52:13, las 146:24, 36:9, 36:13, 54:11, 55:10, 149:12, 3:6, 93:18, 51:15, 53:15, 150:2, 150:11, 117:10, 117:14, 130:14 55:25, 56:17, 167:9, 173:11 150:13 last 59:21, 64:18, let's kindness 8:9, 8:13, 65:4, 65:6, 134:14 18:22, 62:10, 8:17, 14:5, 78:21, 96:19. 71:20, knowingly 89:4, 15:14, 15:17, 97:11, 97:13, 102:2, 120:23, 67:9, 46:16, 18:12, 29:1, 110:2, 113:23, 70:22. 73:16 121:13, 122:20, 29:5, 29:9, 116:9, 117:15, knowledge 123:20, 124:20, 40:23, 41:25, 117:16, 117:20, 127:1, 155:3 19:6, 41:3, 89:7, 89:22, 117:21, 140:19, 57:19, lethal 71:2, 89:24, 90:10, 140:22, 140:25, 146:13 113:8 125:22, 126:5, 141:6, 141:8, letter known 126:15, 127:8, 141:11, 142:13, 44:16, 56:5, 135:13, 88:14, 127:22, 152:21, 142:16, 155:7, 152:7, 138:15 169:10, 155:6, 163:9 155:17, 156:12, 170:21, 170:22, letters later 157:21, 156:14, 175:20 17:12, 53:18. 94:19, 99:15, 165:20, 165:21, 54:2, knows 53:19, 145:9, 145:12 166:24, 166:25, 71: 6 54:3, 54:9, law 167:2, 174:1, 61:2, 61:3 kong 33:18, 47:5, 178:2 level 9:11, 9:13, 47:15, 47:25, lawyers 96:16, 96:25, 89:19 49:5, 49:8, 33:23, 34:2, li 97:1, 97:15, 49:10, 56:2, 51:9, 64:24, 149:14, 91:19 159:25, 71:9, 66:22, 117:22, 127:25, 160:19 lian 71:12, 71:15, 128:4, 153:14, kwok 91:19 101:17, 102:3, 155:20, 156:13, 1:12, 2:8, 6:1, liang 120:19 107:11, 156:15, 156:21, 6:7, 8:7, 8:18, 151:14, 152:16 lawsuit 157:1, 158:3, 8:19, 11:7, liar 8:20, 8:24, 108:19, 109:5,

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| 110:8, 144:20 | 88:23,<br>89:4, | lose | 112:6 | |------------------|------------------|--------------------|--------------------| | license | 103:9,<br>118:1, | 115:24 | madam | | 10:1 | 118:24, 120:13, | losing | 141:17 | | lieu | 120:20 | 115:22 | made | | 5:2 | little | lost | 39:7, 40:13, | | life | 99:22, 168:11 | 113:9, 113:21, | 51:6,<br>57:9, | | 77:22, 87:14, | live | 113:23, 153:25 | 64:21,<br>58:4, | | 87:24,<br>88:1, | 22:5,<br>22:6, | lot | 85:14,<br>92:8, | | 88:2, 101:12, | 77:6, 77:10, | 12:2, 54:19, | 95:24,<br>97:20, | | 116:3, 134:11, | 80:5,<br>80:12, | 57:18,<br>87:6, | 98:21,<br>101:7, | | 142:8 | 81:15,<br>82:3, | 92:1,<br>87:10, | 111:4,<br>113:8, | | light | 129:11, 129:13 | 92:15,<br>94:23, | 113:12, 113:17, | | 157:19 | lived | 100:25,<br>113:3, | 114:13, 127:25, | | limited | 81:12,<br>81:18 | 113:19,<br>130:16, | 132:17, 135:1, | | 31:10, 38:9, | lives | 130:18, 146:22, | 135:5, 145:16, | | 38:12,<br>39:1, | 77:11 | 149:4,<br>149:16, | 146:23, 149:23, | | 39:7,<br>39:4, | living | 150:7, 150:8, | 150:2,<br>161:8, | | 39:11,<br>39:14, | 18:11,<br>88:20, | 150:11 | 163:18,<br>164:19, | | 39:18, 39:24, | 108:22 | lots | 171:21,<br>178:17, | | 40:2, 40:14, | llc | 57:16,<br>58:1, | 178:25,<br>179:23, | | 49:22, 49:25, | 3:11 | 66:1 | 181:3 | | 50:3, 50:23, | lobby | loud | magic | | 169:14, 176:2, | 54:23 | 154:10 | 143:23 | | 176:9 | local | low | mail | | line | 22:16, 22:19, | 114:2, 114:4, | 52:13,<br>52:16, | | 10:14, 79:10, | 188:10 | 182:13 | 52:18,<br>52:19, | | 84:9, 86:17, | logan | lude | 53:8, 53:13, | | 88:5,<br>88:8, | 1:4, 6:10, | 91:17, 93:11, | 55:15,<br>55:19, | | 88:12,<br>88:18, | 15:22, 124:2, | 94:3, 94:6, | 180:9, 180:13, | | 88:24,<br>95:9, | 124:23, 188:19, | 94:16, 94:18, | 180:16 | | 96:1 | 189:5 | 94:20, 95:10, | mailed | | lines | long | 96:3, 96:11, | 179:13 | | 165:23 | 107:25, 138:7, | 110:6, 113:10, | mails | | link | 149:7, 149:8 | 114:11, 115:9, | 52:24, 53:3 | | 43:2, 64:17, | longest | 115:22, 115:24, | mainland | | 65:13, 65:15, | 90:25 | 115:25, 116:7, | 9:10, 96:20, | | 65:17 | look | 116:16, 116:17, | 96:24, 97:10, | | list | 55:14, 111:19, | 130:14, 145:2, | 111:12, 115:2, | | 57 : 8 | 143:11, 143:14, | 177:1, 177:6, | 134:1, 145:1, | | listed | 143:16, 143:22, | 177:8 | 150:2<br>150:1, | | 57:14 | 144:8, 144:11, | ludicrous | make | | listening | 156:24, 168:7 | 157:24 | 6:19,<br>6:24, | | 138:7 | looked | M | 8:10, 21:22, | | literally | 168:6 | ma | 35:16,<br>34:22, | | 65:7, 65:13 | looking | 110:25, 111:2, | 36:25,<br>54:8, | | litigation | 60:23, 61:20, | 111:10, 111:12, | 70:25,<br>86:5, | | 28:5, 49:6, | 111:24, 111:25, | 111:18, 111:24, | 88:14,<br>92:10, | | 80:17, 82:14, | 160:14 | | 93:10,<br>93:20, | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

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miles mitchell motivation name 118:11 6:9, 13:8, 18:9, 35:6, 36:2, 8:7, 8:10, 79:8, 180:10 36:7, 36:11, moutai 8:13, 8:15, million 155:16, 155:21 8:17, 8:21, 9:4. 92:22, 115:4 96:17, mo 9:6, 9:12, 9:14, 115:5, move 132:13, 151:13, 187:13 9:15, 11:10, 62:10, 79:24, 151:14, 11:15, 11:22, 151:15, moment 79:25, 88:23, 151:16, 151:17, 16:3, 16:17, 18:24, 22:9, 108:24, 138:2, 18:5, 43:2, 18:1, 152:6, 152:13, 35:21, 138:17, 147:21, 152:15, 152:16, 59:5, 106:19, 184:22 18:9, 18:12. 167:22, 22:25, 23:17, 152:17, 152:21, 118:19, 149:11, moved 29:13, 34:9, 152:22, 157:12, 149:17, 152:24 127:3 34:20, 34:24, 157:15, 160:1, momentarily moving 35:22, 36:21, 160:25, 173:17 79:10 106:12, 125:4, millions 47:7, 48:20, money 183:10 49:7, 93:1, 93:7, 49:3, 115:18, 179:8, msn 93:17, 57:21, 58:11, 108:2, 98:20, 104:6, 184:2, 185:4, 115:6, 58:17, 58:22, 134:2, 185:14 104:18, 104:25, 60:5, 61:21, 134:3, 146:18, mongolia 105:1 91:18, 97:13, 146:25, 150:14, 130:19 much 93:5, 97:15, 138:14, 150:22, 182:5 mongolian 12:6, 42:9, 152:6, 152:21, mind 93:9, 95:5, 101:11, 104:16, 156:19, 170:20, 73:14, 100:20, 115:2, 116:10, 116:4, 119:12, 170:24, 172:7, 101:24, 128:14, 128:16, 116:11, 130:15 119:22, 131:8, 139:20 176:8 monies 132:12, 132:15, named mine 132:3 132:16, 137:21, 23:8, 35:6, 22:5 month 149:19, 151:1, 36:6, 36:9, minister 153:21, 154:4, 29:2, 29:4 36:13, 36:16, 182:20 185:14, 187:5 months 43:16, 47:5, ministry must 99:24, 107:21, 48:17, 115:22, 182:20 111:25 101:19, 109:24, 178:11 minor 116:6, 122:10, more names 131:2 125:7, 138:11, 7:21, 20:12, 34:4, 34:15, minutes 71:20, 172:6 72:9, 47:8, 58:1, mute 21:13, 21:14, 102:17, 104:16, 80:9, 101:20, 79:9 62:13, 72:13, 114:16, 153:18, 101:21, 101:22, 170:11 myself 157:4, 157:6, 116:18, 116:20, mischaracterizes 17:6, 20:13, 157:8, 157:10, 116:21, 134:18, 85:17 158:2 25:17, 53:4. 151:19 57:14, miss 53:5, morning narcotics 106:9 101:7, 103:3, 6:7, 6:8, 21:8, 15:10 mistake 129:12, 131:5, 58:5, 65:7, narrow 144:6, 144:8, 34:23, 100:1 66:6, 160:17. 157:15 156:10, 163:18, mistaken 161:14 nation 33:1, 34:19 most 173:24 55:12 N mistaking 6:21, 84:15, national 34:24 109:20, 184:20 n-u-o 57:15 mostly misunderstood 170:21 140:14 107:23

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native 17:1, 17:2, 55:25, 56:2, notice 6:20 17:16, 17:23, 56:22, 56:25, 17:25, 19:2, natural 18:6, 30:11, 59:25, 63:19, 19:7, 111:6, 48:22, 31:20, 67:11, 72:1, 34:11 188:7 49:5, 49:11, 74:6, 113:23, naturally november 52:7, 52:10, 120:2, 120:5, 99:23, 171:21 110:11 80:18, 80:22, 120:13, 155:24, nearly nowadays 88:23, 89:4, 162:5, 168:12, 55:4 59:22, 98:4 102:4, 102:20, 169:25, 172:21, necessarily number 103:20, 106:2, 174:17, 174:21, 57:15, 10:16, 55:17 6:16, 107:2, 107:10, 175:1, 176:2, need 62:1, 62:7, 114:13, 118:1, 180:10, 180:11, 62:25, 78:2, 7:3, 7:6, 118:24, 120:5, 190:2, 190:8, 91:16, 104:24, 13:14, 19:12, 120:19, 131:1, 190:9 120:24, 124:20, 19:23, 25:7, 145:13, 146:15, newspapers 160:10, 171:8, 53:17, 55:19, 176:15 92:1 188:6, 189:2 58:20, 58:21, nevada ' s next numbered 59:25, 61:13, 113:6 135:10 74:1, 90:13, 124:11 never nice 98:4, 109:14, numerics 33:2, 51:12, 134:16 22:25 112:11, 112:22, 65:24, 66:3, nine 112:23, 113:3, nv 73:25, 74:12, 21:13, 21:14, 113:15, 118:17, 3:6 102:12, 111:12, 81:17 118:20, 135:22, O 136:25, 137:2, 111:13, 111:18, nods o-k 111:21, 133:3, 137:16, 7 : 4 144:23, 8:14 134:19, 134:11, none 146:9, 146:12, oath 142:9, 157:21, 149:7, 151:19, 112:19 4 : 16 175:23 154:8, 159:7, nonetheless object new 167:17, 173:25, 7:2 5:8, 26:21, 1:2, 2:11, 174:1 nonlawyers 60:18, 62:4, 6:12, 10:2, needed 56:18 90:13, 160:11, 23:24, 24:14, 54:12, 110:13, nonresponsive 175:25 25:10, 25:24, 110:18 137:8, 138:3, objected 30:14, 30:16, needs 180:7, 184:22 127:2 31:1, 31:10, 50:20, 51:6, normal objection 32:8, 32:12, 143:5 20:10 8:23, 10:10, 33:20, 38:9, negotiate notarize 10:25, 14:13, 38:12, 38:22, 180:22 33:17 18:2, 18:7, 39:4, 39:1, net notarized 23:12, 23:23, 39:11, 39:7, 163:2 178:6 24:8, 25:12, 39:14, 39:18, netherland notary 25:16, 27:8, 39:24, 40:1, 22:2 33:20, 2:10, 27:14, 27:20, 40:14, 40:25, network 190:7 29:14, 29:6, 43:20, 44:9, 101 : 1 note 32:22, 33:25, 45:8, 46:8, neurologist 58:20, 123:2 34:3, 34:17, 46:17, 49:22, 126:19 noted 35:16, 41:8, 49:24, 50:3, nevada 179:12, 187:6 43:13, 44:5, 50:23, 51:1. 15:25, 16:25, nothing 58:20, 103:17

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45:15, 46:2, october 39:16, 42:23, 134:14, 143:5, 48:23, 49:1, 91:12 43:1, 43:2, 143:6, 144:23, 56:9, 56:12, office 59:11, 61:21, 146:16, 147:3, 56:20, 66:2, 78:2, 150:4, 151:4, 57:24, 32:11, 32:14, 69:6, 70:17, 82:6, 90:8, 172:14 32:16, 59:15, 71:1, 72:17, 90:9, 96:25, open 59:17 73:7, 73:19, 100:20, 102:16, 98:11, officer 113:24, 80:6, 92:4, 4:15, 105:4, 106:18, 118:19, 146:12, 31:9, 103:10, 104:9, 113:10, 122:15, 149:23, 154:8 39:13, 39:23. 104:21, 107:15, 128:11, 131:22, 176:12 opened 115:23, 112:21, 141:6, 142:5, 110:22 officers 144:24, 119:19, 129:18, 146:6, openly 39:19 138:1, 139:5, 152:9, 152:24, 110:12, offices 110:20, 139:15, 139:18, 153:15, 154:16, 32:17 135:18, 136:2, 140:18, 142:17, 156:20, 161:8, 144:22, 145:20 offshore 143:18, 144:13, 168:12, 168:13, operating 160:3, 160:4, 145:24, 168:14, 168:22, 147:7, 18:11 161:1, 161:2 147:13, 150:24, 168:25, 169:7, opportunity oh 154:19, 155:8, 172:14, 174:12, 114:16 165:19 156:7, 156:18, 175:2, 184:18 opposed ok one-minute 158:15, 160:12, 33:19 9:2, 10:23, 161:4, 162:6, 21:13, 21:15 18:25, 19:22, order 172:23, 173:21, one-year-old 6:21, 19:24, 35:13, 7:4, 173:22, 180:19, 34:13 127:3, 159:25, 42:24, 43:1, 180:20, 183:18, ones 161:1, 161:6, 58:24, 61:1, 186:5 140:13, 180:16 180:7 81:11, 81:24, objections ongoing 84:11, 86:8, ordered 4:9, 6:25, 111:22, 174:6 179:11 96:9, 97:13, 124:1, 85:23, online original 100:12, 102:6, 124:22, 170:13, 57:18, 58:2, 105:20, 106:9, 107:1 188:18, 189:4 78:11, 87:7, 114:25, 115:24, other obligation 87:12, 88:3, 122:21, 123:20, 6:17, 14:23, 69:4, 71:11, 114:8, 116:22, 124:20, 127:9, 15:1, 20:17, 103:8 135:19, 136:2, 132:2, 144:14, 20:20, 28:14, obligations 144:19, 144:23, 183:3 28:22, 29:9, 170:8 145:11, 145:12, old 32:17, 33:20, observe 145:18, 145:19, 3:13, 54:25 33:23, 34:2, 18:4 181:23 omitted 35:9, 61:21, obstruction only 124:12 79:25, 80:22, 167:16 22:24, 34:11, once 83:18, 91:18, obstructive 58:10, 69:7, 15:23, 98:3, 108:5. 17:5, 70:9 70:17, 71:2, 45:22, 46:1, 108:8, 112:5, 93:19, obtain 81:18, 116:17, 116:18, 99:16, 91:10, 65:2 104:23, 114:1, 120:13, 128:5, 148:15 114:4, obviously 114:3, one 130:15, 155:6, 115:10, 115:13, 183:23 28:6, 155:15, 155:16, 8:6, 9:9, 9:10, 117:17, 131:2, occurred 155:18, 155:20, 18:24, 22:9, 131:24, 132:1, 163:14 157:1, 158:7, 28:2, 28:6,

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| 168:5, 170:8, | P | party | 178:17, 178:24, | |-------------------|--------------------|------------------|--------------------| | 172:15, 172:25, | | 12:4, 50:10, | 181:9, 183:24 | | 174:13, 175:2, | pacific | 53:23, 56:23, | payments | | 176:11, 179:25, | 8:3, 14:20, | 57:4, 57:9, | 36:25, 39:7, | | 181:2 | 47:11, 48:8 | 57:15, 65:25, | 40:13, 51:4, | | others | page | 83:5,<br>82:24, | 185:21, 185:24 | | 82:8, 82:9, | 107:18, 124:6, | 92:17,<br>91:22, | pays | | 82:12 | 125:4, 188:2, | 111:16, 115:12, | 29:22, 76:18 | | otherwise | 188:6, 189:2 | 116:5, 131:11, | peak | | 97:6, 175:22 | pages | 131:12, 161:15, | 100:9 | | out | 54:17, 142:4, | 178:18 | | | | 142:12 | party's | peasant | | 15:1, 33:10, | paid | | 108:19, 134:8, | | 33:13, 56:8, | 12:6, 30:14, | 86:16 | 182:13, 182:14 | | 58:17,<br>62:20, | 37:1,<br>44:15, | password | penalties | | 66:14, 78:7, | 47:20, 47:22, | 43:5 | 5:7 | | 78:12, 78:16, | 49:10,<br>60:1, | past | penalty | | 85:7,<br>99:5, | 76:6,<br>89:24, | 16:19,<br>46:6, | 125:13 | | 99:8,<br>99:9, | 118:1, 133:12, | 46:15,<br>78:1, | pending | | 108:14, 117:17, | 133:13, 175:22, | 82:4, 132:10, | 7:8, 133:20, | | 120:24, 127:7, | 184:14, 184:23, | 132:11, 142:18, | 135:10, 137:6, | | 145:20, 179:2, | 184:24 | 150:9, 177:14 | 154:20, 187:3 | | 179:20, 181:23, | paper | pathway | people | | 183:25 | 58:20 | 10:19 | 6:16, 20:20, | | out-of-your-juri- | paragraph | paused | 54:11,<br>54:8, | | sdiction | 107:18, 183:11 | 79:7 | 54:25, 56:15, | | 72:4 | part | pausing | 78:12, 81:3, | | outcome | 28:7, 31:19, | 78:23 | 91:16, 91:18, | | 190:18 | 54:17,<br>80 : 3 , | pay | 94:23,<br>93:20, | | outside | 147:11, 153:22, | 29:20, 29:24, | 95:3,<br>95:1, | | 32:8, 72:10, | 163:25, 174:6 | 30:16, 36:20, | 106:9, 108:4, | | 144:3 | particular | 37:4, 37:18, | 115:13, 115:14, | | over | 8:1, 13:11, | 44:9,<br>40:2, | 115:19, 116:12, | | 6:16, 80:15, | 69:3, 117:21 | 48:7,<br>49:14, | 116:15, 130:17, | | 94:25, 104:10, | particularly | 76:10,<br>51:2, | 145:1, 146:5, | | 124:10, 124:14, | 10:14 | 76:20, 118:14, | 146:22,<br>149:14, | | 135:19, 180:23, | | 118:23, 119:7, | 149:16, 150:8, | | 186:3 | parties | 159:13, 176:14, | 153:19, 155:18 | | overbroad | 4:5, 6:2, 55:1, | 185:14 | people's | | 79:20 | 190:16 | payable | 57:1 | | oversee | partner | 180:25, 181:3 | percent | | 93:23 | 93:6,<br>96:24, | paying | 161:13, 180:1 | | own | 97:2,<br>97:16, | 37:21, 37:23, | perhaps | | 30:25, 58:16, | 115:20, 184:17 | 47:23, 51:22, | 43:17, 43:22, | | 75:22, 86:20, | partners | 62:21, 132:22, | 54:20, 101:14, | | 161:17, 161:18 | 83:1,<br>83:2, | 159:18 | | | owner | 83:3, 149:15 | payment | 123:17, 131:24, | | | partnership | 36:25, 51:6, | 134:3, 157:23, | | 81:20, 82:1 | 85:11 | 173:5, 173:9, | 159:4, 161:12, | | owning | | | 170:19, 172:24, | | 160:24 | | | | | | | | |

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| 177:9 | phone | piece | podhaskie | |--------------------|-------------------------|------------------|--------------------| | period | 59:6,<br>59:7, | 55:15, 55:19, | 23:9, 23:14, | | 82:5, 90:25, | 59:21,<br>59:22, | 99:23, 115:10, | 23:18, 23:19, | | 101:6, 104:15, | 59:24, 59:25, | 130:6 | 23:22, 25:2, | | 138:15 | 60:1, 60:20, | piecemeal | 25:9, 25:15, | | perjury | 61:15, 62:1, | 74:18 | 25:22, 26:3, | | 5:7, 125:13 | 62:2,<br>62:7, | place | 26:5, 26:20, | | permitted | 62:18, 62:22, | 77:11,<br>97:18, | 27:6,<br>27:12, | | 79:21 | 62:25,<br>63:1, | 148:7,<br>130:1, | 27:16, 29:12, | | persecution | 63:3,<br>63:5, | 157:18 | 29:18, 29:20, | | 129:22 | 63:11,<br>63:7, | placed | 29:22, 29:25, | | person | 64:12, 65:20, | 98:24 | 32:7, 33:4, | | 18:10, 54:5, | 84:3,<br>84:21, | plaintiff | 33:10, 33:16, | | 59:16, 64:6, | 84:24, 84:25, | 1:5, 3:4, 6:10, | 33:19, 33:24, | | 82:6, 88:10, | 85:7,<br>85:13, | 15:21, 124:2, | 51:19 | | 93:4,<br>93:24, | 85:16, 87:18, | 124:23, 171:10, | podhaskie's | | 111:7, 115:5, | 89:16,<br>97:5, | 188:19, 189:5 | 32:14 | | 115:6, 115:10, | 97:7, 97:22, | plan | point | | 115:12, 115:22, | 98:2,<br>98:4, | 60:3, 60:6 | 57:25,<br>85:8, | | 133:4, 146:3, | 98:7,<br>98:8, | platform | 94:3, 100:14, | | 152:10, 170:18, | 98:9,<br>98:15, | 92:24,<br>94:20, | 100:17, 150:19, | | 176:18, 176:19, | 98:16, 98:18, | 101:1,<br>97:21, | 187 : 3 | | 182:23 | 98:25, 99:1, | 108:18, 182:11 | police | | personal | 99:6, 99:18, | playing | 54:10,<br>93:9, | | 24:19, 30:3, | 100:2, 100:3, | 128:17 | 95:5,<br>111:11, | | 36:24,<br>42:2, | 100:8, 100:13, | pleading | 111:16,<br>115:3, | | 60:21,<br>60:19, | 104:11, 104:14, | 117:14 | 116:10,<br>116:11, | | 62:7,<br>61:14, | 104:16, 104:24, | pleadings | 116:15 | | 62:18,<br>62:21, | 105:3, 105:7, | 117:10 | policeman | | 91:17,<br>96:13, | 113:20, 128:9, | please | 130:16 | | 97:20,<br>97:25, | 128:10, 144:25, | 5:2, 6:19, 7:7, | political | | 108:13, 108:17, | 145:2 | 7:12, 18:19, | 11:9 | | 109:7, 110:16, | phones | 18:24, 19:15, | portable | | 113:12, 114:9, | 99:9, 99:11,<br>99:16, | 19:20, 22:9, | 129:13 | | 131:12, 132:24, | 99:19,<br>100:6, 100:7, | 22:12, 22:23, | portion | | 135:2, 135:17, | 102:10, 102:17, | 28:19, 35:2, | 120:6, 153:5, | | 144:17, 145:15, | 102:25, 103:2, | 35:10, 57:21, | 165:2, 166:5, | | 146:8, 149:21, | 103:5, 128:5 | 60:15, 62:16, | 167:10 | | 149:24, 153:3, | photo | 69:23, 78:22, | posed | | 153:17 | 129:2 | 78:23, 79:1, | 112:9, 112:10 | | personally | physician | 89:5,<br>90:20, | posing | | 25:23, 53:4, | 126:21, 127:19 | 96:4, 103:14, | 86:12, 86:20, | | 53:5, 107:19, | pick | 106:19, 131:22, | 87:8 | | 107:24, 107:25, | 141:6, 142:2, | 133:17, 141:18, | position | | 110:7<br>personnel | 142:5 | 144:1, 148:23, | 94:19 | | | pick-up | 152:24, 167:22 | possession | | 182:3 | 128:24 | plural | 177:5 | | persons<br>184:19 | | 159:10 | possible | | | | | 7:22, 13:4, | | | | | |

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proven pursuing 159:8 52:20, 55:11, 95:9, 134:20 races 57:19, 58:20, 96:3, 114:14, 114:10 159:2 60:18, 86:14, put 87:25, 87:15, provide racism 53:1, 94:19. 88:20, 88:21, 44:19, 44:23, 123:15, 159:5 131:10, 68:17, 97:23, 99:20, 70:16, 131:11, 151:23, randazza 101:5, 101:13, 164:14, 70:19, 70:23, 164:11, 3:3, 3:8, 71:4, 73:17, 168:9, 168:15, 52:13, 104:11, 123:11, 72:2 123:16, 123:13, 183:23 rapist 114:16, 116:25, 126:6, 127:10, 128:4, 135:22, 108:1, Q 108:11, 127:12, 128:21, 139:1, 140:9, 108:18, 109:1, questioning 129:10, 129:25, 148:17 110:5, 110:8, 10:15, 88:25 132:21, 136:5, provided 110:13, 110:12, questions 143:20, 153:8, 42:16, 43:9, 110:18, 132:19, 6:14, 7:2, 154:22, 157:18, 46:7, 46:16, 134:5, 144:20, 15:6, 59:2. 157:24, 158:23, 46:25, 69:1, 151:5, 182:12 62:11, 62:14, 160:15, 161:15, 69:4, 69:16, rate 68:3, 68:7, 168:5, 169:2, 97:11, 125:11, 119:22 68:15, 68:13, 169:12, 177:10 139:24, 140:11, rather 68:18, 72:9, realtime 140:15, 143:21, 7:3, 16:3, 72:12, 77:20, 2:10, 190:7 170:12 147:6, 34:23, 34:25, 78:9, 79:21, reask public 54:14 80:1, 83:16, 33:20, 143:17 2:11, rd 83:18, 86:11, reason 82:25, 183:25, 3:13 86:14, 86:17, 11:1, 24:2, 184:1, 190:7 reach 87:23, 88:4, 60:20, 62:6, pull 172:4 88:19, 88:8, 62:9, 62:10, 121:13, 167:5 read 90:7, 118:14, 83:17, 103:17, punitive 17:6, 17:7, 126:9, 136:21, 106:12, 114:3, 132:8, 132:21, 17:20, 52:21, 143:17, 147:20, 147:14, 159:7, 133:14 52:22, 52:25, 148:2, 171:6, 168:5, 174:24, purchase 53:2, 53:4. 186:25 178:13 93:18 61:1, 89:6, quiang receive purchased 89:8, 106:2, 80:10 47:17, 51:12, 59:10, 59:12 107:4, 113:1, quick 52:8, 52:7, purported 123:16, 141:23, 59:1 52:12, 52:16, 146:4, 146:3, 141:25, 161:6, quiet 52:18, 53:5, 177:1 161:8 71:24 180:12 purpose reading quite received 26:8, 83:19, 34:12, 55:15 29:16, 100:21, 45:7, 45:18, 83:20, 131:3, ready 101:5, 113:19, 52:20, 52:24, 133:8, 156:16 65:11 143:19, 155:19, 53:4, 53:16, purposes really 168:20, 186:7, 54:6, 178:23 26:5, 26:13, 10:13, 21:12. 186:12 receivinq 26:19 27:1, 27:2, quote 53:14 pursuant 34:18, 34:22, 171:9, 171:10 recess 19:7, 22:15, 36:10, 36:18, R 66:9, 79:13. 22:19, 188:9 37:3, 37:16, race 102:8, 155:5 pursue 37:17, 37:21, 158:19, 159:4, 134:19

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| Conducted on April 1, 2021<br>17 | | | | | | |----------------------------------|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------------|--|--| | recognize | 38:5, 38:19, | 83:12, 85:21 | rephrase | | | | 22:24, 156:22, | 40:7,<br>40:21, | relevant | 7:13, 70:21 | | | | 158:5 | 41:21, 42:6, | 10:11, 62:11, | replace | | | | recollection | 42:21, 44:20, | 83:15,<br>62:14, | 93:13, 94:6, | | | | 103:1 | 45:4, 45:16, | 84:8,<br>83:22, | 94:20 | | | | recommendation | 46:4, 46:13, | 85:15,<br>84:11, | report | | | | 16:8, 16:10, | 46:23, 48:15, | 86:12,<br>88:20, | 40:13, 42:9, | | | | 86:6 | 49:19, 50:21, | 88:21,<br>127:11 | 161:8, 161:13 | | | | recommended | 67:17, 69:13, | relied | reported | | | | 16:18, 168:8 | 75:11, 75:20, | 117:22, 183:13 | 1:15, 54:10, | | | | record | 76:3, 76:16, | remarks | 130:21, 146:1 | | | | 42:19, 79:12, | 91:8,<br>77:1, | 113:17 | reporter | | | | 84:7,<br>85:25, | 127:13, 161:24, | remember | 2:10, 5:1, 5:4, | | | | 86:2,<br>86:3, | 162:18, 162:25, | 18:3, 23:6, | 5:13,<br>58:8, | | | | 89:8,<br>91:9, | 163:7, 170:2, | 23:13, 32:23, | 58:12, 58:25, | | | | 130:1, 141:25, | 171:17, 172:2, | 34:5, 35:23, | 80:11, 81:22, | | | | 184:1, 190:13 | 181:14, 184:7, | 82:6,<br>82:7, | 89:6, 141:17, | | | | recorded | 185:11 | 101:20, 123:17, | 141:21, 184:22, | | | | 115:8 | regarding | 126:4, 126:25, | 190:6, 190:7 | | | | recording | 45:8,<br>7:9, | 127:11, 144:9, | represent | | | | 21:20, 21:22 | 45:21, 79:17, | 147:23, 150:20, | 6:9, 26:6, | | | | records | 79:21, 100:13, | 150:21, 153:8, | 26:20, 27:7, | | | | 97:10, 127:1, | 175:16, 187:3 | 154:5, 154:17, | 27:12, 27:16, | | | | 129:17, 129:20, | regards | 154:21, 158:8, | 27:22, 106:25, | | | | 185:20, 185:23, | 130:6 | 169:6, 171:7, | 121:5, 121:20, | | | | 185:24 | registered | 183:5 | 155:11, 155:17, | | | | recover | 2:9, 180:9, | remembering | 155:21, 156:17, | | | | 102:10, 102:14 | 180:13, 190:5 | 116:18 | 171:9 | | | | recovered | registry<br>179:13 | remind | representation | | | | 102:12 | reinterpret | 77:3 | 25:14, 25:20, | | | | recovery | 141:24 | remote | 36:1,<br>48:8, | | | | 102:18, 102:21, | rejected | 1:12, 2:8 | 84:6,<br>85:14 | | | | 102:25, 120:7, | 57:11 | rendered | representations | | | | 173:20 | related | 29:25, 47:18 | 183:13<br>representative | | | | referenced | 162:3, 190:16 | rendering<br>37:19 | 55:1 | | | | 156:2, 163:9 | relation | renders | represented | | | | referred | 182:19 | 29:18, 36:17 | 35:5, 35:13, | | | | 16:24, 34:8 | relationship | renew | 48:21, 62:22, | | | | referring | 24:16, 82:21, | 154:3 | 71:19, 72:22, | | | | 32:5 | 83:7,<br>85:5, | renminbi | 88:22 | | | | refers | 85:10, 162:4, | 93:7, 93:17 | representing | | | | 160:24<br>refuse | 169:13, 181:22, | repeat | 25:25, 47:21, | | | | | 182:1 | 11:6, 73:14, | 48:1, 48:4, | | | | 12:23, 68:3,<br>68:7, 68:17 | relative | 119:1, 127:17, | 49:11, 77:18, | | | | refusing | 155:17 | 141:18, 141:19, | 77:19, 92:21 | | | | | relevance | 141:21, 151:19 | represents | | | | 12:13, 13:20,<br>24:24, 37:12, | 60:17, 72:6, | repeating | 25:23, 26:18 | | | | | | 150:7 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

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| 32:25, 33:2, | 36:14, 42:25, | 39:17,<br>43:6, | 175:15 | |--------------------------|-------------------------------|-------------------------------------|-------------------------| | | 54:7, | | | | 33:8, 33:14, | 53:21,<br>54:12, 59:16, | 58:25,<br>83:6,<br>99:25, | spread | | 125:12, 125:19, | | 108:10, | 131:16 | | 126:5, 126:25<br>signing | 72:3, 79:24,<br>79:25, 83:17, | 109:11,<br>112:3,<br>123:21, 155:2, | spreading | | 32:23 | 93:20,<br>83:18, | 164:13 | 94:1, 94:10, | | silvestri | 93:21,<br>97:8, | sort | 114:8,<br>114:19, | | 48:18 | 100:1, 100:14, | 55:3, 84:10, | 131:4, 131:20,<br>135:3 | | simple | 106:9, 106:12, | 126:11, 149:22 | | | 75:13, 107:6, | 126:11, 129:4, | sought | spy<br>110:5 | | | 149:7, 149:12, | 114:3, 136:6 | | | 151:3, 151:4 | 149:15, 154:20, | sounds | ਟ ਟੈ<br>190:3 | | simply | 166:5, 166:6, | 7 : 4 | | | 137:9 | 173:1, 176:25 | source | st | | simultaneous | somebody | | 32:13 | | 11:5, 40:16, | 23:8 | 55:8, 116:15, | stability | | 72:14,<br>95:14, | somehow | 183:16, 184:2 | 93:23 | | 96:8, 109:13, | 150:21 | sources | start | | 112:8, 121:10, | someone | 57:6, 116:19 | 182:5, 182:7, | | 133:16, 133:21, | 55:15, 62:1, | south | 182:16 | | 134:21, 135:6, | 92:20, 107:6, | 160:16, 161:13 | started | | 136:9, 138:4, | 115:1, 152:16, | southern | 108:12, 108:13, | | 138:16, 154:6, | 178:11 | 1:2,<br>6:12, | 108:15, 183:7 | | 165:3, 165:7,<br>166:2 | somethinq | 155:24, 169:24 | starting | | simultaneously | 20:2, 25:8, | speak | 18:16, 72:24, | | 154:18 | 48:25, 56:11, | 105:21 | 109:8 | | | | | | | | | speaking | starts | | since | 76:5,<br>86:16, | 10:24,<br>85:23, | 121:14 | | 65:24, 97:21, | 95:16, 95:17, | 138:10, 147:12, | state | | 110:22, 116:2, | 128:24, 141:10, | 183:18 | 9:18, 10:2, | | 124:12, 174:6 | 152:18, 152:21, | special | 12:18, 13:21, | | single | 165:17, 166:17, | 55:9 | 13:23, 15:25, | | 169:7 | 166:25, 168:25 | specific | 32:24, 33:20, | | sir | sometimes | 102:5, 142:20 | 36:22, 38:22, | | 6:8, 131:22 | 54:1,<br>54:20, | specifically | 40:10,<br>40:25, | | situation | 54:24,<br>54:22, | 20:25,<br>21:4, | 43:20,<br>44:10, | | 104:14 | 56:15, 56:16, | 158:6, 179:6 | 46:8,<br>45:8, | | small | 57:10, 75:1, | speculation | 46:17, 57:22, | | 146:17 | 76:9, 77:7, | 164:25 | 67:2,<br>67:11, | | social | 81:20, 99:12, | spell | 74:5, 190:2 | | 9:25, 11:13, | 99:13, 99:14, | 58:8, 58:10 | state s | | 11:24, 110:10 | 99:15, 99:17,<br>99:18 | spelled | 172:21 | | solely | somewhere | 18:5 | stated | | 162:7 | 157:14 | spelling | 35:2, 116:7, | | solemnly | son | 8:20, 11:10, | 133:1, 133:4 | | 5:13 | | 11:14, 11:18, | statement | | some | 80:8, 87:4,<br>87:24 | 11:21,<br>18:1 | 22:15, 22:19, | | 6:18, 9:14, | | spoken | 32:20, 136:4, | | 20:10, 22:25, | sorry | 63:10, 63:13, | 171:12, 171:20, | | | 32:13,<br>20:1, | | |

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| 188:9 | stop | submit | sure | |------------------------------|-----------------------------------|----------------|-----------------| | states | 19:20, 72:15, | 67:9, 102:16 | 6:19, 8:10, | | 1:1, 2:11, | 78:24,<br>78:22, | submitted | 36:15, 43:19, | | 7:24,<br>9:19, | 78:25, 79:2, | 74:5 | 54:8,<br>56:7, | | 10:5, 10:9, | 96:4, 114:5, | subscribed | 58:18, 100:21, | | 12:18, 13:24, | 131:3, 131:4, | 187:11 | 100:22, 106:7, | | 14:2, 14:8, | 131:19, 164:15 | subsequent | 111:1, 118:22, | | 14:12, 14:23, | stopped | 120:18 | 122:12, 122:14, | | 27:25,<br>28:13, | 20:2 | subsequently | 122:19, 123:12, | | 28:24,<br>29:3, | store | 87:8, 146:22 | 123:14, 123:19, | | 34:20,<br>34:14, | 128:2, 128:3, | substance | 125:8, 127:19, | | 45:19, 46:8, | 129:17 | 15:9 | 128:15, 139:22, | | 47:1,<br>66:17, | stored | successfully | 148:5, 148:20, | | 66:21,<br>67:4, | 97:4, 99:2 | 102:13 | 151:20, 165:1, | | 91:3, 107:18, | story | sue | 175:18, 183:21, | | 183:12, 190:8 | 149:7, 149:8 | 31:19, 51:25, | 186:7 | | stating | strange | 101:3, 101:14, | surrounding | | 134 : 6 | 168:23 | 112:12, 183:8 | 87:23 | | status | strategic | sued | suspend | | 10:8, 10:12, | 83:1, 83:2, | 110:23, 173:16 | 187:2 | | 10:20, 11:2, | 169:20 | suggested | suss | | 11:4, 11:7, 13:7 | strategy | 167:1, 167:2 | 78:7 | | steel | 167:9, 167:25, | suggestion | sussing | | 115:10 | 173:12, 173:14, | 86:6 | 78:15 | | steinberg | 173:23, 174:9 | suing | swear | | 174:11 | stream | 11:2 | 5 : 1 3 | | step | 128:8 | suit | swearing | | 60:25 | street | 6:10, 102:4, | 5:3 | | stepped | 32:13 | 110:25 | sworn | | 65:9 | strike | suite | 4:15, 4:18, | | steve | 9:16, 47:10, | 3:5, 3:13 | 6:3, 187:11, | | 84:17,<br>82:3, | 51:17, 55:22, | summer | 190:12 | | 85:6,<br>85:5, | 64:1, 66:25, | 81:13, 82:4 | system | | 85:10, 85:19<br>still | 75:5, 75:10, | superman | 58:6, 172:21, | | | 95:12, 102:2, | 154:22 | 175:1 | | 11:15, 19:23,<br>68:1, 68:6, | 106:4, 108:24, | supplement | ப | | 68:9, 83:9, | 120:2, 138:2, | 70:4, 117:1 | t-e-e-r | | 83:23, 83:25, | 138:17, 141:16, | support | 59:3 | | 105:17, 111:22, | 158:18, 179:11,<br>184:22, 185:23 | 91:22, 92:23, | t-mobile | | 165:16, 166:16, | strongly | 92:24, 93:22 | 61:6 | | 170:9, 174:6 | 87:18, 103:21 | supporters | table | | stipulate | stuff | 94:25 | 98:25 | | 5:2 | 118:15 | supporting | take | | stipulated | subject | 92:15 | 7:6, 12:3, | | 4:3, 4:8, 4:13 | 40:24, 41:11 | supportive | 31:19, 59:1, | | stipulation | submissions | 116:14 | 66:8, 84:21, | | 172:12, 175:3 | 79:16 | supposed | 84:24, 84:25, | | | | 73:2 | | | | | | | | | | | |

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Conducted on April 1, 2021

| 78:8, 80:4, | 20:1, 21:3, | wrapped | 170:24, 172:5, | |-----------------|------------------|-----------------------------------|--------------------------------| | 87:24 | 21:6,<br>58:9, | 166:6 | 172:16, 173:1, | | wifi | 60:10, 70:1, | write | 173:3, 174:14, | | 129:5, 129:6 | 70:3, 70:10, | 185:1 | 174:22, 175:2, | | wilkinson | 72:8,<br>84:9, | writing | 175:10 | | 3:20 | 86:9,<br>86:4, | 128:20, 128:21, | な | | willy-nilly | 95:15, 96:10, | 182:19 | y-e-l-i-a-n-g | | 75:1 | 100:20, 106:14, | written | 152:19 | | wind | 111:20, 118:17, | 38:11, 110:16, | yang | | 118:20, 154:7, | 128:14, 139:20, | 110:17, 125:9, | 91:18 | | 154:9 | 141:15, 141:20, | 135:17, 140:2, | yanping | | window | 149:19, 187:5, | 171:5 | 175:5, 175:19 | | 118:18, 118:20, | 188:2, 190:10, | wrong | yeah | | 154:8, 154:9 | 190:14, 190:20 | 94:5, 142:10, | 81:16 | | wire | wolman's | 169:1, 172:7, | | | 129:6, 176:19, | 19:15 | 172:25, 179:16 | year | | 176:23 | won | wrote | 14:5, 29:9, | | wish | 120:4 | 132:24, 144:18 | 42:11, 43:23, | | 88:13, 88:14, | wonderful | X | 44:10, 181:6 | | 116:20, 181:18 | 167:20 | | years | | withdraw | woodbury | X | 15:14, 15:17,<br>40:23, 41:25, | | 137:12 | 101:18 | 166:17 | 46:6, 46:15, | | withdrawn | word | x-1 | 142:18 | | 137:18 | 26:7, 100:20, | 170:21 | | | withdrew | 151:4 | x-i-a | yes-or-no<br>20:5 | | 137:19 | words | 152:19 | yieliang | | withheld | 7:3, 96:1, | x-1-a-n-m-i-n | 8:4, 14:20 | | 70:14, 70:22, | 122:12, 134:8, | 152:23, 170:15 | yingnan | | 73:16 | 134:9, 146:5 | x-i-n-o | 110:2, 116:9 | | within | work | 170:23 | york | | 4:14, 41:24, | 23:20 | x-i-o-n-g | 2:11,<br>1:2, | | 60:14, 99:11, | worked | 152:23, 170:15<br>xi | 6:12, 10:2, | | 190:8 | 150:8, 154:25 | | 23:24, 24:14, | | without | working | 108:3, 182:15<br>xia | 25:10, 25:24, | | 16:11, 27:5, | 23:19, 23:20, | | 30:14, 30:16, | | 31:22, 63:9, | 23:21, 23:24, | 151:16, 152:17<br>xianmin | 31:1, 31:10, | | 64:5, 69:10, | 114:24, 115:14 | | 32:8, 32:12, | | 73:8, 103:12, | works | 151:17, 170:15, | 33:20, 38:9, | | 104:4, 104:19, | 136:13, 167:18 | 170:19, 170:24,<br>172:5, 172:16, | 38:12, 38:22, | | 122:9, 152:3, | world | | 39:1, 39:4, | | 160:13, 163:15, | | | | | | 54:18,<br>18:11, | 173:2, 173:3, | | | 163:21, 164:5, | 71:21,<br>95:1 | 174:14, 174:22, | 39:7, 39:11, | | 164:20, 164:22, | worry | 175:2, 175:10 | 39:14, 39:18, | | 165:17, 165:20, | 154:10 | xino | 39:24, 40:1, | | 167:3, 171:11, | worth | 170:22 | 40:14, 40:25,<br>43:20, 44:9, | | 173:9, 173:11, | 150:22, 153:3, | xiong | 45:8, 46:8, | | 173:20 | 163:2 | 151:17, 152:21, | 46:17, 49:22, | | witness | wouldn't | 170:15, 170:19, | | | 6:2, 14:18, | 122:19 | | | | | | | |

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Transcript of Howan Kwok Conducted on April 1, 2021

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