郭文贵破产案 · EXHIBIT · ECF #1604-40

·2· · · · · · ·UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT ·3· · · · · · · · DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT

·5· · · · · ·Chapter 11 Case No. 22-50073 (JAM) ·6· ·----------------------------------------x ·7· ·In Re:

·9· · · · · · · · · · · · ·Debtor. 10· ·----------------------------------------x

12· ·REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MARGARET E. CONBOY 13· · · · · · · ·Tuesday, February 21, 2023

22· ·Reported by:

·2· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · February 21, 2023 ·3· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10:13 a.m.

·5· · · · · · · · · REMOTE videotaped deposition of ·6· ·MARGARET E. CONBOY held pursuant to Notice, before ·7· ·Amy A. Rivera, Certified Shorthand Reporter, ·8· ·Registered Professional Reporter, Certified LiveNote ·9· ·Reporter, and a Notary Public of the State of New 10· ·Jersey.

·2· ·R E M O T E· ·A P P E A R A N C E S:

·7· ·BY:· Avram Luft, Esq. ·8· · · · Douglass Barron, Esq.

14· ·BY:· Michael Thomason, Esq.

17· ·ALSO PRESENT:

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·3· ·Counselors. ·4· · · · ·My name is Jonathan Popham.· I'm a ·5· ·legal videographer in association with TSG ·6· ·Reporting, Incorporated. ·7· · · · ·Because this is a remote deposition, I ·8· ·will not be in the same room with the ·9· ·witness.· Instead, I will record this video 10· ·deposition remotely. 11· · · · ·The court reporter, Amy Rivera, also 12· ·will not be in the same room and will swear 13· ·the witness remotely. 14· · · · ·Do all parties stipulate to the 15· ·validity of this video recording and remote 16· ·swearing and that it will be admissible in 17· ·the courtroom as if it had been taken 18· ·following Rule 30 of the Federal Rules of 19· ·Civil Procedure and the state's rules where 20· ·this case is pending? 21· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· This is Avi Luft on behalf 22· ·of the Chapter 11 Trustee. 23· · · · ·And we do. 24· · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Michael Thomason on 25· ·behalf of the witness.

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·2· · · · ·Sure. ·3· · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Okay.· This is the ·4· ·start of Media No. 1 in the video deposition ·5· ·of Margaret E. Conboy, in the matter of In ·6· ·re:· Ho Wan Kwok, in the United States ·7· ·Bankruptcy Court for the District of ·8· ·Connecticut, Chapter 11 Case No. 22-50073

10· · · · ·This deposition is taking place at 11· ·multiple locations via video conference on

13· ·10:13 a.m. Eastern Time.

15· ·themselves for the record. 16· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Sure.· My name is Avi Luft

18· ·represent the Chapter 11 Trustee in the In 19· ·re:· Ho Wan Kwok Chapter 11 bankruptcy 20· ·pending before the Bankruptcy Court for the 21· ·District Court of Connecticut. 22· · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· My name is Michael 23· ·Thomason, sitting to the left of the 24· ·witness, from Whitman Breed Abbott & Morgan. 25· ·Both of us are from Whitman Breed Abbott &

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·2· · · · ·Morgan, and I'm here for Ms. Conboy. ·3· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Okay.· Will the court ·4· · · · ·reporter please swear in the witness. ·5· ·M A R G A R E T· · E.· · C O N B O Y, having been ·6· ·duly sworn by the Notary Public, testified as ·7· ·follows: ·8· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Thank you.

10· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 11· · · · ·Q.· · Good morning, Ms. Conboy.· How where 12· ·you? 13· · · · ·A.· · Good.· How are you? 14· · · · ·Q.· · I'm good.· Thank you for taking time 15· ·this morning.· I appreciate it. 16· · · · ·A.· · Thank you. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, as I said just a minute 18· ·ago, my name is Avi Luft.· I'm an attorney at Paul 19· ·Hastings, and I represent the Chapter 11 Trustee, 20· ·Luc Despins, in the In re:· Ho Wan Kwok 21· ·bankruptcy. 22· · · · · · · ·Let me -- I just want to go over a few 23· ·preliminaries, and I used the name "Ho Wan Kwok." 24· ·He is an individual also known as "Miles Kwok" and

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·5· · · · ·A.· · Miles Kwok.

·3· · · · ·A.· · I'm familiar with him.

·6· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· If I refer to him as "Miles

·2· · · · · · · ·Is he a person you're familiar with?

·4· · · · ·Q.· · And what name do you know him by?

·7· ·Kwok" or "Mr. Kwok" or the "debtor" throughout the

·8· ·deposition, can we have an understanding that we

·9· ·are referring to the same person?

10· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes.

11· · · · ·Q.· · Terrific.· Okay.

12· · · · · · · ·And, Ms. Conboy, my understanding is

13· ·you're appearing as the person most knowledgeable

14· ·on behalf of your law firm, Whitman Breed, today?

15· · · · ·A.· · Yes.· I was the closing attorney,

16· ·so...

17· · · · ·Q.· · Terrific.

18· · · · · · · ·Have you ever been deposed before,

19· ·Ms. Conboy?

20· · · · ·A.· · No.

21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So despite you being a lawyer

22· ·and probably being more familiar with this than

23· ·most, let me just run through some preliminaries

24· ·just so we're all on the same page.

25· · · · · · · ·So basics are:· I'm going to ask you a ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY Page 8

·2· ·question and then you'll answer it.· Is that okay? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yep. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · I will try to make my question as ·5· ·clear as possible, but if for any reason my ·6· ·question is not clear to you, will you tell me? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And if you don't clarify that ·9· ·the question is unclear, can we have an 10· ·understanding that you do understand my question? 11· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And you understand you're 13· ·testifying under oath today? 14· · · · ·A.· · Yes, I do. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Is there any reason why you 16· ·can't provide truthful testimony today? 17· · · · ·A.· · No. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Great. 19· · · · · · · ·From time to time, your counsel may 20· ·object to a question I ask on the ground of the 21· ·form of it, and that is his right and that is 22· ·fine. 23· · · · · · · ·Once he has made his objection, you 24· ·should go ahead and answer my question, if you 25· ·can.· Okay?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Okay. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · If there is an issue of privilege or ·4· ·you are concerned about it, you should let me know ·5· ·and you can confer with your counsel. ·6· · · · ·A.· · Okay. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · If you need a break during the ·8· ·deposition -- I will take them periodically ·9· ·because this can take a while, but if for some 10· ·reason you feel like you need a break, will you 11· ·let me know? 12· · · · ·A.· · Sure. 13· · · · ·Q.· · I will then attempt to get a break as 14· ·soon as reasonably practicable given the 15· ·questions.· Okay? 16· · · · ·A.· · Okay. 17· · · · ·Q.· · The one thing I ask is that if a 18· ·question is pending, that we make sure we get an 19· ·answer to the question before we take a break.· Is 20· ·that okay? 21· · · · ·A.· · Yep, that's fine. 22· · · · ·Q.· · One other sort of housekeeping, even 23· ·though we are on Zoom and I can see you and the 24· ·court reporter can see you, the court reporter can 25· ·only take down audible answers.

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·2· · · · · · · ·So shakes of the head or nods, despite ·3· ·the fact that she can see it, she can't write down ·4· ·yes or no based on a shake.· So I just ask that ·5· ·all your answers be audible.· Okay? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Are there any questions you ·8· ·have before we get started with the questioning? ·9· · · · ·A.· · I don't think so, no. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Terrific. 11· · · · · · · ·Throughout the deposition, I am -- I 12· ·am going to show you some documents.· I've spoken 13· ·with your counsel about this a little.· We have 14· ·tried our best based on the production to 15· ·understand where a document starts and a document 16· ·ends. 17· · · · · · · ·If for some reason given your 18· ·familiarity with the documents you look at 19· ·something and you say, Hey, this isn't exactly 20· ·right or there's an extra page on here or 21· ·something, will you let me know? 22· · · · ·A.· · Yes, yes. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Terrific. 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Avi, can we just 25· · · · ·clarify something?· With respect to

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·2· ·privilege, it's our understanding that the ·3· ·Trustee is the holder of the privilege here ·4· ·and has waived that privilege.· Is that ·5· ·correct? ·6· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· The Trustee has not waived ·7· ·it.· But the Trustee holds Mr. Kwok's ·8· ·privilege. ·9· · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay. 10· · · · ·MR. LUFT:· So just for clarity, any 11· ·privilege that was just ever held by the 12· ·debtor, unless there was some issue about 13· ·his personal safety, which I can't imagine 14· ·coming up in a real estate transaction, that 15· ·privilege is now controlled by the debtor. 16· · · · ·And the reason I draw that distinction 17· ·as opposed to waived, live by the Trustee. 18· ·Thank you. 19· · · · ·My colleague Doug Barron is here. 20· · · · ·The reason I make that distinction, 21· ·meaning other people cannot invade that 22· ·privilege, just as they could not before, 23· ·but between Ms. Conboy and the Trustee at 24· ·this point, that is the same privileged

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·2· · · · ·information as existed previously between ·3· · · · ·Ms. Conboy or your firm and Mr. Kwok, their ·4· · · · ·client. ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· All right.· Thank you. ·6· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay. ·7· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Ms. Conboy, prior to this ·9· ·deposition, I sent your counsel a list of topics 10· ·which we hope to cover today. 11· · · · ·A.· · Okay. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Did you prepare for this deposition to 13· ·prepare for those -- to speak to those topics? 14· · · · ·A.· · No. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Did you generally prepare to 16· ·familiarize yourself with regard to the work you 17· ·did to represent Mr. Kwok? 18· · · · ·A.· · No. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· What did you do to prepare for 20· ·this deposition? 21· · · · ·A.· · I just met with Mr. Thomason, and he 22· ·told me how the depositions are done and just 23· ·explained the process, and we met for maybe an 24· ·hour just to -- going through the process. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right.· Well, why don't we

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·2· ·get started with the questioning and see what you ·3· ·recall, and we can go back if there's some topic ·4· ·for which you weren't able to review. ·5· · · · · · · ·When -- when did you first hear of ·6· ·Mr. Kwok? ·7· · · · ·A.· · When -- I don't remember what year it ·8· ·was, but I received a call from a firm in New ·9· ·York, Hodgson Russ, and they asked me to be 10· ·Connecticut counsel for this family, you know, the 11· ·Golden Spring, Greenwich land, and to be -- to be 12· ·the Connecticut counsel for their real estate 13· ·purchases. 14· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall who reached out to 15· ·you from Hodgson Russ? 16· · · · ·A.· · I think it was Bill, Elissa Brinn and 17· ·Valerie -- I don't remember Valerie's last name 18· ·now.· Valerie was a partner there, and I believe 19· ·it was both of them. 20· · · · ·Q.· · And what did they tell you about 21· ·Mr. Kwok? 22· · · · ·A.· · They just said that they represented 23· ·this -- this family and they were very interested 24· ·in buying property in Greenwich and a house in 25· ·Greenwich and, you know, that was -- it was -- you

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·2· ·know, it was confidential.· They didn't want their

·3· ·names out, which is not unusual.· I run into that ·4· ·all the time with clients where they don't want

·5· ·their names, and so they take property in their ·6· ·LLCs. ·7· · · · · · · ·And that was pretty much it. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And did -- were you told anything else ·9· ·about Mr. Kwok? 10· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember, no. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 12· · · · · · · ·When you were told about the family, 13· ·were you given any more details about who was in 14· ·the family? 15· · · · ·A.· · No, no. 16· · · · ·Q.· · And was there a specific house that 17· ·they were already hoping to purchase or was this a 18· ·general retainer to work on real estate matters on 19· ·behalf of Mr. Kwok? 20· · · · ·A.· · They were already looking and I 21· ·believe making an offer -- maybe they had -- I 22· ·can't remember -- they may have had a contract out 23· ·for a property, I forget which property, Clapboard 24· ·Ridge, one of them, and Elissa had been working on 25· ·it and then they thought it was best to get

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·2· ·Connecticut counsel, and so I came in on that. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And can you tell me a little bit about ·4· ·the scope of the engagement? ·5· · · · · · · ·Because my understanding is it wasn't ·6· ·just one property that you ended up working on but ·7· ·over time, there were multiple representations of ·8· ·Mr. Kwok. ·9· · · · ·A.· · Well, of the LLCs, I never spoke with 10· ·Mr. Kwok.· It was always his lawyer -- the family 11· ·lawyer who I spoke with. 12· · · · · · · ·And so he -- he did place offers on a 13· ·few properties and then they fell through for one 14· ·reason or another.· He didn't go through with them 15· ·or the family didn't go through with them. 16· · · · · · · ·The property that I eventually closed 17· ·on with him was on Ferncliff.· The others that I 18· ·represented him on never closed, and there were 19· ·maybe three or four of those. 20· · · · ·Q.· · You said you only spoke with the 21· ·family lawyer. 22· · · · · · · ·Do you recall the family lawyer's 23· ·name? 24· · · · ·A.· · Max Krasner. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner represent to you that

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·2· ·he was an attorney? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever speak to a woman named ·5· ·Yvette Wang? ·6· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I don't remember ·7· ·that name. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Did you understand that Mr. Krasner ·9· ·was working on behalf of Mr. Kwok? 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes, and the family. 11· · · · ·Q.· · And when you say the "family," did you 12· ·ever speak to anyone else in the family other 13· ·than -- at all? 14· · · · ·A.· · No, no. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you he was 16· ·taking directions from anyone other than Mr. Kwok? 17· · · · ·A.· · No, he never told me who he was taking 18· ·directions from. 19· · · · ·Q.· · I've seen in the documents, your 20· ·e-mails, multiple references to the "Chinese

22· · · · · · · ·Is Mr. Kwok the Chinese billionaire? 23· · · · ·A.· · I just got that from when I did a 24· ·Google search.· So I don't really know, that just 25· ·if you Google his name, that's what comes up.· So

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·3· · · · ·Q.· · My question was -- sorry. ·4· · · · · · · ·My question is not whether Mr. Kwok is ·5· ·it a Chinese billionaire, but when you wrote -- ·6· ·referenced the "Chinese billionaire," were you ·7· ·referring to Mr. Kwok? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes, only because of the Google ·9· ·searches. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Right.· Okay. 11· · · · · · · ·Did any of your colleagues work with 12· ·you on this matter? 13· · · · ·A.· · I don't -- maybe an associate helped, 14· ·but that's all I remember as being -- and my 15· ·paralegal, obviously. 16· · · · ·Q.· · When you spoke to Mr. Krasner on 17· ·behalf of Mr. Kwok, did you do so via e-mail? 18· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. 19· · · · · · · ·You can answer. 20· · · · ·A.· · Both e-mail and phone call. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· How many times would you say 22· ·you spoke with Mr. Krasner? 23· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· On e-mail or phone? 24· · · · ·Q.· · Either. 25· · · · ·A.· · You know, when we were working on a

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·2· ·transaction, maybe a couple of times a day. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever go visit any of the ·4· ·properties that Mr. Kwok was considering ·5· ·purchasing? ·6· · · · ·A.· · No. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know which brokers Mr. Kwok was ·8· ·working with for the properties he was looking at? ·9· · · · ·A.· · I can't remember.· I remember the last 10· ·one, but I don't remember all the -- the other 11· ·brokers that he was working with. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Who was the last one? 13· · · · ·A.· · Martha Jeffreys. 14· · · · ·Q.· · Would it have been the brokers who 15· ·took Mr. Kwok around to see the properties? 16· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Have you ever spoken with 18· ·Mr. Kwok's son? 19· · · · ·A.· · No. 20· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever -- how about his wife? 21· · · · ·A.· · No. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Or his daughter? 23· · · · ·A.· · No. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Did you ever speak with anyone 25· ·representing the family who told you that the

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·2· ·instructions were coming from either the son, the ·3· ·wife, or the daughter? ·4· · · · ·A.· · No.

·6· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I want to mark as Whitman ·7· · · · ·Breed Deposition Exhibit 1, the document at ·8· · · · ·Tab 1 in your binder.· It bears the Bates ·9· · · · ·stamp WBAM_001464 through 65. 10· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 1, letter dated 11· · · · ·October 1, 2018, Bates stamped WBAM_001464 12· · · · ·through 465, was marked for identification

14· · · · ·A.· · Yep. 15· · · · ·Q.· · When you have a second, just take a 16· ·look and tell me when you're ready. 17· · · · ·A.· · Okay. 18· · · · ·Q.· · What is this document? 19· · · · ·A.· · That's our engagement letter.· That 20· ·was the first engagement letter.· And we had taken 21· ·it out through Hodgson Russ. 22· · · · ·Q.· · So in this letter, the client is 23· ·Hodgson Russ on behalf of -- let me just make it 24· ·simple:· Is Hodgson Russ the technical client 25· ·here?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And the purchase is to be made ·4· ·by an entity called "Hudson Diamond"? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I believe so -- oh, yes, it says --

·7· · · · ·Q.· · But this -- and this is the same ·8· ·engagement where you were being told you were ·9· ·representing the interest of Mr. Kwok and his 10· ·family, correct? 11· · · · · · · ·This is the 110 Clapboard Road -- 12· ·Clapboard Ridge? 13· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You could just put 15· · · · ·that aside. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Let me ask you a few other people. 17· ·Did you ever speak to a man named Daniel 18· ·Podhaskie? 19· · · · ·A.· · No. 20· · · · ·Q.· · How about a woman named Melissa 21· ·Francis? 22· · · · ·A.· · No. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Aaron Mitchell? 24· · · · ·A.· · No. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Terrific.

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·2· · · · · · · ·All right.· Could we turn to -- I ask ·3· ·you to turn to Tab 3, which is an e-mail from ·4· ·October 3, 2019 from yourself to Kevin Walsh, ·5· ·Bates stamped WBAM_10076. ·6· · · · · · · ·Let me know when you have it. ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Are you marking this as ·8· · · · ·Exhibit 2? ·9· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes, please, Whitman Breed 10· · · · ·Exhibit 2. 11· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 2, e-mail dated 12· · · · ·October 3, 2019, Bates stamped WBAM_10076, 13· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) 14· · · · ·A.· · Okay. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· It starts off -- this is an 16· ·e-mail from you to Kevin Walsh, correct? 17· · · · ·A.· · Right. 18· · · · ·Q.· · You start off:· "Kevin, my client, the

20· · · · · · · ·Is that a reference to your client 21· ·being Mr. Kwok? 22· · · · ·A.· · Yeah.· I mean, I should have -- it --

24· · · · ·Q.· · And then you go on.· You say (as 25· ·read):· The seller accepted his offer of

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·2· ·\$35 million.· And then, furthermore, he is meeting ·3· ·with architects.· He has an idea of what is ·4· ·involved in building on the parcel. ·5· · · · · · · ·The "he" and the "his" there are ·6· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Kwok ever tell you what the ·9· ·source of the \$35 million he was using to offer 10· ·for 602 Indian Field was? 11· · · · ·A.· · No.· This was all through Max. I 12· ·never spoke with Mr. Kwok.· It was all through 13· ·Max. 14· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner -- and I assume when 15· ·you say "Max," you're referring to Max Krasner? 16· · · · ·A.· · Right, Mr. Krasner. 17· · · · ·Q.· · That's fine. 18· · · · · · · ·Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you what the 19· ·source of the \$35 million was for this offer? 20· · · · ·A.· · No, no. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Did he ever -- was he ever required to 22· ·provide any, for lack of a better term, 23· ·substantiation or basis to the seller to show that 24· ·he had the wherewithal to make a \$35 million 25· ·offer?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Is that something that would be

·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · -- your part of the process? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· But this never went to ·9· ·contract, correct? 10· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Okay.· Terrific. 12· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I want to ask you to look 13· · · · ·at Tab 2.· I'm going to mark as Whitman 14· · · · ·Breed Exhibit 3, it is a document Bates 15· · · · ·stamped WBAM_000035 through 36, and it 16· · · · ·appears to me to be an August 16, 2019 17· · · · ·retention letter between Whitman Breed 18· · · · ·signed by yourself and then by Max Krasner 19· · · · ·on behalf of Golden Spring. 20· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 3, letter dated 21· · · · ·August 16, 2019, Bates stamped WBAM_000035 22· · · · ·through 36, was marked for identification at

24· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 25· · · · ·Q.· · Does that appear right to you?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · That's right. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And this is in connection with ·4· ·the purchase of a property at 33 Ferncliff Road? ·5· · · · ·A.· · That's right. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And here, you understood Mr. Krasner ·7· ·to again be making this engagement on behalf of ·8· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Well, the family. 10· · · · ·Q.· · When you say the "family," just so I 11· ·understand, what is the distinction you're drawing 12· ·given that -- well, let me strike that. 13· · · · · · · ·My understanding is that you 14· ·understood instructions to be coming from 15· ·Mr. Kwok, that he's giving directions. 16· · · · · · · ·There's no one else in the family you 17· ·ever spoke with or received directions on behalf 18· ·of, correct? 19· · · · ·A.· · I never spoke with Mr. Kwok.· I never 20· ·spoke with anyone else.· No, I only spoke with Max 21· ·Krasner, and he would say that -- his words were 22· ·the family. 23· · · · ·Q.· · But when you wrote about, when we 24· ·looked at Exhibit 2, the Chinese billionaire and 25· ·his offer and he is meeting with architects, the

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·2· ·"he" there is Mr. Kwok, you understood, correct? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Right, that's what I understood. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And you have no knowledge of anyone ·5· ·else in the family ever meeting with architects or ·6· ·engineers on behalf of these houses, correct? ·7· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't know.· I don't know. I ·8· ·have no idea. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · And no one else from the family ever 10· ·submitting an offer for the house other than 11· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? 12· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 14· · · · · · · ·Who paid -- in connection with the 15· ·work you did for 110 Clap Ridge Road, who paid 16· ·Whitman Breed's legal bills? 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. 18· · · · ·Q.· · How about with regard to 33 Ferncliff? 19· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that to 21· · · · ·the side for now. 22· · · · · · · ·I'm going to ask you to look at Tab 9. 23· · · · ·I'm going to mark as Exhibit 4, a document 24· · · · ·Bates stamped WBAM_002235 through 37. 25· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 4, e-mail

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·2· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002235 through ·3· · · · ·237, was marked for identification at this

·5· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have that in front of you? ·7· · · · ·A.· · I do. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · So this is an e-mail chain between ·9· ·yourself, Valerie Stevens, Yvette Wang, and Elissa 10· ·Brinn. 11· · · · · · · ·Who is Valerie Stevens? 12· · · · ·A.· · She was a partner at Hodgson Russ. 13· · · · ·Q.· · And Ms. Brinn? 14· · · · ·A.· · And Ms. Brinn was also an attorney at 15· ·Hodgson Russ. 16· · · · ·Q.· · And then Yvette Wang? 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember her.· I really don't 18· ·remember her. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see in the middle of page 20· ·ending 236, October 11, 2018, 12:35, she writes an 21· ·e-mail to yourself and Elissa saying (as read): 22· ·Please still keep doing nothing as I advised 23· ·before.· I already had advised Kathy to withdraw 24· ·the offer on Monday.· The buyer didn't give any 25· ·instructions to reopen yet.· Thank you, Yvette.

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·2· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yep. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · The buyer -- the buyer there is ·5· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? ·6· · · · ·A.· · I don't know -- I mean, I don't know. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Who did you understand that -- ·8· · · · ·A.· · Like I said, it was the company that ·9· ·was either Golden Spring or Greenwich Land, and 10· ·that's who was buying it.· I'm not sure -- I'm not 11· ·sure of that, who Yvette Wang -- I just don't 12· ·remember. 13· · · · ·Q.· · You don't remember what her role was? 14· · · · ·A.· · Right. 15· · · · ·Q.· · You understood Mr. Kwok to be a client 16· ·of the firm though, correct? 17· · · · ·A.· · No.· I understood the companies to be 18· ·a client of the firm. 19· · · · ·Q.· · You had a conversation with 20· ·Mr. Despins at one point with regard to issues 21· ·regarding conflicts of interest? 22· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 23· · · · ·Q.· · And in that, you told him that one of 24· ·the issues was that Mr. Kwok was a client of the 25· ·firm?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Well, I must have misspoke, and I ·3· ·don't remember, but I just don't really remember ·4· ·that. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Who did you understand to ·6· ·control Golden Spring? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Like I said, I spoke with Max Krasner. ·8· ·That was my contact.· I don't know.· I don't know ·9· ·who controlled Golden Spring. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you he has 11· ·no legal license? 12· · · · ·A.· · No. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 14· · · · · · · ·When Ms. Wang referred to the "buyer," 15· ·you did not understand her to be referring to 16· ·herself, correct? 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I really don't know. I 18· ·didn't know -- I don't remember her. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Let's take a look at -- 21· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Is it possible to turn 22· · · · ·the camera a little bit more towards the 23· · · · ·witness again, please, Counsel? 24· · · · · · · ·Thank you. 25· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· Let's take a look at

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·2· · · · ·Tab 13.· We're going to mark as Whitman ·3· · · · ·Breed Exhibit 5, I believe, a document Bates ·4· · · · ·stamped WBAM_001048 through 54.· This is an ·5· · · · ·e-mail chain at the top starting with an ·6· · · · ·e-mail from Ms. Yvette Wang to Elissa Brinn, ·7· · · · ·Ms. Conboy, and Valerie Stevens regarding ·8· · · · ·110 Clipboard agreement with Brown Harris ·9· · · · ·Stevens. 10· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 5, e-mail 11· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_001048 through 54, 12· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) 13· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 14· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that top e-mail? 15· · · · ·A.· · Yep. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Did you see Ms. Wang again writes (as 17· ·read):· The inventory content list of this 18· ·property should be exactly the same as original, 19· ·the first time Kathy showed this house to the 20· ·buyer. 21· · · · · · · ·Did you understand Kathy showed the 22· ·house to an actual person, being the buyer? 23· · · · ·A.· · Yes, showed the house to the buyer. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Right.· And since Ms. Wang is 25· ·referring to it, that she's not referring to

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·2· ·herself, she's referring to the buyer as another ·3· ·person? ·4· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Does this help refresh your ·6· ·recollection as to -- with regard to Ms. Wang? ·7· · · · ·A.· · No. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · All right.· Okay.· Let's look at ·9· ·another -- what I believe is another property. 10· · · · · · · ·Do you recall doing work with regard 11· ·to 140 Wallacks Drive in January 2019? 12· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to show you a 14· · · · ·document Bates stamped -- I'd like to mark 15· · · · ·as Exhibit 6, a document Bates stamped 16· · · · ·WBAM_002663 through 72. 17· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Tab number? 18· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· What's that? 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Which tab number? 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· It's Tab 14. 21· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 6, e-mail 22· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002663 through 23· · · · ·672, was marked for identification at this

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · Am I correct that this is an e-mail ·3· ·chain between yourself and Robert Mowbray from ·4· ·January 22, 2019? ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And the property he references is ·7· ·140 Wallacks Drive, Caritas Island, Stamford? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Right. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see your e-mail, you write: 10· ·"Hi, Bob.· I would like you to do the searches 11· ·because this is a high-end property on the water - 12· ·the Chinese billionaire has an accepted offer!

14· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 16· · · · ·Q.· · The Chinese billionaire being 17· ·referenced is Mr. Kwok, correct? 18· · · · ·A.· · Right. 19· · · · ·Q.· · And that's who you were saying had an 20· ·accepted offer on the property? 21· · · · ·A.· · But actually, the offer was in the 22· ·name of Golden or either Golden Spring or 23· ·Greenwich Land.· I don't remember which one they 24· ·put -- the offer was put in. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Whichever entity legally they put the

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·2· ·name in, what you understood was that Mr. Kwok had ·3· ·an accepted offer, correct? ·4· · · · ·A.· · From the e-mail, that's what I -- yep, ·5· ·correct. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And you were being -- okay.· So at the ·7· ·time, that's what you were telling Mr. Mowbray, ·8· ·was that Mr. Kwok has an accepted offer? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Right. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Prior to working with Mr. Kwok, did 11· ·you have to sign any type of NDA agreement? 12· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I may have. I 13· ·don't remember. 14· · · · ·Q.· · At any point does Mr. Kwok or one of 15· ·his associate entities had you sign an NDA 16· ·agreement? 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Is the reason you refer to Mr. Kwok as 19· ·the "Chinese billionaire" because you were trying 20· ·to avoid using his name in communications? 21· · · · ·A.· · Right, correct. 22· · · · ·Q.· · When you wrote the "Chinese 23· ·billionaire" here, Mr. Kwok was the person you 24· ·were referring to? 25· · · · ·A.· · Yes.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. ·3· · · · · · · ·Let me see.· Do you know a man named ·4· ·Emile deNeree? ·5· · · · ·A.· · No. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · From Caldwell Banker maybe? ·7· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. ·8· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask to mark as ·9· · · · ·Exhibit -- what are we up to, 7? -- a 10· · · · ·document behind Tab 18, Bates stamped 11· · · · ·WBAM_002803 through 08. 12· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 7, e-mail 13· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002803 through 14· · · · ·808, was marked for identification at this

16· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 17· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this 18· ·document? 19· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't remember it. 20· · · · ·Q.· · Can you review it and see if it 21· ·refreshes your recollection that this was an 22· ·e-mail also about 140 Walkins Drive? 23· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember the e-mail.· I mean, 24· ·I just don't remember -- I get thousands of 25· ·e-mails, though.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · Understood. ·3· · · · · · · ·Do you see at the top, Ms. Brinn ·4· ·writes to you, Mr. deNeree and yourself, and she ·5· ·makes a reference as:· "Margaret - looks like a ·6· ·septic update is needed as well"? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yep. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Are you the "Margaret" there? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Yep, yes. 10· · · · ·Q.· · And so this chain would have been sent 11· ·to you, correct? 12· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And in this chain, you see that 14· ·they're talking about various inspections and 15· ·diligence that needs to be done? 16· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 17· · · · ·Q.· · If I ask you to turn to page 2806, do 18· ·you see that there's a January 25th e-mail from 19· ·Mr. deNeree or a Barbara Vogt at Sothebys Homes, 20· ·so this is between the two brokers, included in 21· ·the diligence sent to you. 22· · · · · · · ·It says that my client is prepared to 23· ·close by February 8.· We have requested a one-week 24· ·grace period in case they cannot complete due 25· ·diligence in times.· It goes on and then says:

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·2· ·"Could you please ask your clients to agree to ·3· ·these terms because Miles is ready to sign the ·4· ·contract this afternoon as long as his attorney ·5· ·receives the acceptable terms for due diligence." ·6· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yep, yes, I do. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall if you ever received ·9· ·those due diligence terms? 10· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. 11· · · · ·Q.· · And the "Miles" here is a reference to 12· ·Mr. Kwok, correct? 13· · · · ·A.· · I didn't write the e-mail, so somebody 14· ·else wrote it. 15· · · · ·Q.· · I understand, someone else wrote it, 16· ·but you read it. 17· · · · · · · ·Did you understand the "Miles" 18· ·involved in this transaction to be Mr. Kwok? 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. 20· · · · · · · ·You can answer. 21· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 23· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· You can put that aside. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Kwok ever become interested in 25· ·potentially purchasing a property at 32 Chateau

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·2· ·Ridge? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about that property ·5· ·and that attempted purchase? ·6· · · · ·A.· · I recall that he put in an offer.· The ·7· ·offer was accepted.· We did our normal due ·8· ·diligence, and he -- he never signed a contract. ·9· ·We were working on a contract and he never signed 10· ·the contract -- well, not he but the LLC never 11· ·signed the contract and so nothing came -- it was 12· ·never purchased. 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask you -- I'm 14· · · · ·going to mark as -- to be asked as Whitman 15· · · · ·Breed Exhibit 8, a document behind Tab 6, 16· · · · ·WBAM_002172 through 2173, which appears to 17· · · · ·be an October 1, 2018 e-mail chain between 18· · · · ·Muffin Dowdle, Elissa Brinn, yourself, and 19· · · · ·Kathy Sloane. 20· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 8, e-mail 21· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_002172 through 22· · · · ·173, was marked for identification at this

24· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 25· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Yep. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see you are on all these ·4· ·e-mails? ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · And this is in connection -- sorry. ·7· · · · · · · ·This was in connection with ·8· ·110 Clapboard Ridge? ·9· · · · ·A.· · That's what it says on the top. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Yeah.· Let me see. 11· · · · · · · ·But then if we go to the middle 12· ·e-mail, Ms. Sloane says (as read):· With regard to 13· ·Chataeu Ridge, the contract is being sent out this 14· ·morning at the original offering prices.· The 15· ·furniture is being removed from the house today. 16· ·The house will be staged.· I suggest that Miles 17· ·see the house again after the staging is complete. 18· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection. 20· · · · ·A.· · Yes, I see that. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So while there's a reference to 22· ·Clapboard Ridge, what is -- there is also -- these 23· ·e-mails are also discussing the Chateau Ridge 24· ·property, correct? 25· · · · ·A.· · Correct.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · And those are two distinct properties? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall Ms. Sloane being a ·5· ·broker at Brown Harris Stevens? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And she is writing to you and ·8· ·Ms. Dowdle and Ms. Brinn suggesting that Miles see ·9· ·the house again after the staging is complete, 10· ·correct? 11· · · · ·A.· · That's what she writes in the e-mail. 12· · · · ·Q.· · And the "Miles" being referred to 13· ·there is Mr. Kwok, correct? 14· · · · ·A.· · I think -- I mean, I didn't write the 15· ·e-mail, again, but that's who I think it would be. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Are you aware of any other Miles who 17· ·was involved in connection with the Chateau Ridge 18· ·property? 19· · · · ·A.· · No. 20· · · · ·Q.· · So it's fair to say when you read 21· ·that, you understood "Miles" to be Mr. Kwok, 22· ·correct? 23· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 24· · · · ·Q.· · You have to answer audibly. 25· · · · · · · ·And she writes (as read):· Let Miles

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·2· ·see the house again after the staging is complete. ·3· · · · · · · ·Did that suggest to you that Mr. Kwok ·4· ·had already seen the house once before this? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I wasn't -- I'm not ·6· ·involved in that part of the transaction.· I have ·7· ·no idea. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · But when you read the e-mail that you ·9· ·were copied on that said, "I suggest that Miles 10· ·see the house again after the staging is 11· ·complete," that would -- did that suggest to you 12· ·that Mr. Kwok had already seen the house once 13· ·before? 14· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I wasn't involved in 15· ·that.· I don't go around with them to the brokers 16· ·to see the house.· I don't know when he saw, if he 17· ·saw, I don't know. 18· · · · ·Q.· · I'm just asking what you understood 19· ·when you read that e-mail. 20· · · · ·A.· · I mean, from her e-mail, it sounds 21· ·like he must have, but I have no idea. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 23· · · · · · · ·Ms. Conboy, you understood that all 24· ·the documents Bates stamped with the "WBAM" stamp 25· ·come from the files of Whitman Breed, correct?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · I think so, yes.· Yes. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And those are files that you keep -- ·4· ·the firm keeps in the ordinary course of its ·5· ·business? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And they're created as part of the ·8· ·ordinary business it conducts as a law firm, ·9· ·correct? 10· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall a woman named 12· ·Louise Camuto was the owner of the Chateau Ridge 13· ·property? 14· · · · ·A.· · I don't know if she was the actual 15· ·owner. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· What did you understand 17· ·Ms. Camuto's position to be? 18· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember how the title was 19· ·held, but I don't think she owned it personally. 20· ·I don't remember exactly how title was held, but I 21· ·don't think she owned it personally. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall that she was 23· ·negotiating the sale of the property with Mr. Kwok 24· ·and his representatives? 25· · · · ·A.· · I don't know if she was.· The only

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·2· ·person who I negotiated with was the other ·3· ·attorney.· I don't know who anyone else negotiated ·4· ·with. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know who Karin Maistrello is? ·6· · · · ·A.· · No. ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· What document are we up to

·9· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· You're at 9. 10· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Nine? 11· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· You're about to name 9. 12· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Terrific.· Let's mark as 13· · · · ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 9, document behind 14· · · · ·Tab 20, an e-mail chain with the Bates stamp 15· · · · ·WBAM_003873 through 76.· Appears to be a 16· · · · ·chain encompassing e-mails involving 17· · · · ·Mr. Krasner, Ms. Camuto, Ms. Wang, 18· · · · ·Ms. Maistrello, and Ms. Dowdle. 19· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 9, e-mail 20· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_003873 through 21· · · · ·876, was marked for identification at this

23· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 24· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you see that this 25· ·document bears a Bates stamp of "WBAM"?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Does that indicate to you that this ·4· ·document comes from the files of Whitman Breed? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I -- it must.· I guess it does. I ·6· ·don't remember seeing this document.· I'm not on ·7· ·the -- I'm not on the e-mail chain at the top. I ·8· ·mean, I'm not on the e-mail. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Do clients when they negotiate through 10· ·e-mails sometimes provide those e-mails to counsel 11· ·for purposes of their work they're doing for them? 12· · · · ·A.· · I don't understand what your question 13· ·is. 14· · · · ·Q.· · My question is:· When clients have 15· ·communications with prospective buyers or brokers, 16· ·do they sometimes provide you with those 17· ·communications to evidence the negotiations they 18· ·conducted so that you can do your work on behalf 19· ·of them? 20· · · · ·A.· · Sometimes, yes, sometimes. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Can you turn to the page ending 3875. 22· · · · · · · ·Do you see there's an e-mail from 23· ·Ms. Camuto to Mary Muffin Dowdle? 24· · · · · · · ·Do you know Ms. Dowdle? 25· · · · ·A.· · No.· She's a broker, but I don't know

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·2· ·her.· She was a broker. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Did you understand her to be the ·4· ·broker working with Mr. Kwok? ·5· · · · ·A.· · In the beginning, yes.· In the ·6· ·beginning of when the transaction first started. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see Ms. Camuto, while sending ·8· ·her e-mail to Ms. Dowdle, addresses it actually to

10· · · · · · · ·She writes:· "Thank you for getting 11· ·back to me.· I look forward to concluding and 12· ·having you move into this amazing place which we 13· ·love so much and you seem to love it as much as we

15· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? 16· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 17· · · · ·Q.· · And then they proceed -- Ms. Camuto 18· ·proceeds to write a message to Mr. Kwok regarding 19· ·certain furnishings he had asked to be kept, 20· ·correct? 21· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 22· · · · ·Q.· · And do you recall if this -- these 23· ·communications were transmitted to you so that you 24· ·would know which pieces of furniture to include in 25· ·the contractual agreements and which ones to leave

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·2· ·out? ·3· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Let's look up a little bit.· Do you ·5· ·see in response on page 3874, Ms. Wang writes back ·6· ·to Mr. Camuto saying:· "Thank you for getting back ·7· ·to Miles.· Kindly forgive him as he does better

·9· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes, yes. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see she mentions that Miles 12· ·said he exactly shares the same love as you to 13· ·this fabulous home and that he hopes to come back 14· ·in the future to share the beautiful stories about 15· ·this place with him. 16· · · · ·A.· · Right, yes. 17· · · · ·Q.· · And that he -- it then goes on: 18· ·"Miles said he appreciates you agree to leave the 19· ·urns.· He does love them very much."· And then 20· ·says -- reflects what Mr. Kwok wishes to do with 21· ·regard to the blue chairs, correct? 22· · · · ·A.· · Right. 23· · · · ·Q.· · And then it concludes:· "On behalf of 24· ·Miles, thank you again for having this beautiful

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Right. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And this information about how to ·4· ·handle the urns for Mr. Kwok and how to handle the ·5· ·chairs, that's all information which you as the ·6· ·lawyer would codify in an agreement, correct? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Correct. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And it's clear that Ms. Wang is ·9· ·speaking on behalf of Mr. Kwok, correct? 10· · · · ·A.· · Again, you're asking me about an 11· ·e-mail that I didn't write. 12· · · · · · · ·They say, the family office, you know, 13· ·I wasn't -- I don't get -- the only way I would 14· ·get involved is to write the contract with the 15· ·terms about the urn and whatever personal 16· ·property. 17· · · · ·Q.· · But it's very clear here, right, this 18· ·is about Miles?· Miles is the person being 19· ·specifically referenced, correct? 20· · · · ·A.· · Miles was being referenced, yes. 21· · · · ·Q.· · And Miles is the one who is making the 22· ·decisions with regard to the urns? 23· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I have no idea. 24· · · · ·Q.· · (As read):· Miles says he appreciates 25· ·you agree to leave urns.· He does love them very

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·2· ·much.· In the same spirit of cooperation, he would ·3· ·like you to keep the set of four blue chairs. ·4· · · · · · · ·You agree with me that it is Mr. Kwok ·5· ·who is the one who is making the instructions with ·6· ·regard to which property to be included in the ·7· ·contract, correct? ·8· · · · ·A.· · That's what the e-mail states, yes. ·9· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that to 10· · · · ·the side. 11· · · · · · · ·Mark as Exhibit -- Whitman Breed 12· · · · ·Exhibit 10, a document behind Tab 22, Bates 13· · · · ·stamped WBAM_003873 through 76, which is, 14· · · · ·again, another e-mail chain between 15· · · · ·Mr. Camuto, Ms. Wang, Mr. Krasner and 16· · · · ·Ms. Maistrello. 17· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 10, e-mail 18· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_003873 through 19· · · · ·876, was marked for identification at this

21· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 22· · · · ·Q.· · And do you see, again, this is a 23· ·document with the Bates stamp "WBAM"? 24· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 25· · · · ·Q.· · And that suggests to you that this is

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·2· ·a document coming from Whitman Breed's files, ·3· ·correct? ·4· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · So this is a document that would have ·6· ·been provided to your law firm in connection with ·7· ·your representation of -- with regard to this ·8· ·property, correct? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 10· · · · ·Q.· · And do you see, again, Ms. Camuto 11· ·writes to Ms. Wang, multiple places, specifically 12· ·says -- references Mr. Kwok:· "I am so glad Miles 13· ·will enjoy the fabulous urns that are, as you 14· ·know, quite rare and valuable.· They make the 15· ·room. 16· · · · · · · ·"Thank him for the chairs, and I will 17· ·leave Miles the cabinet on the third floor."· It 18· ·goes on:· "Thank you - and Miles, and please keep 19· ·the communication flowing.· I would be happy to 20· ·come visit him one day when he is all settled in." 21· · · · · · · ·It is clear Ms. Wang -- Ms. Camuto is 22· ·referring to Mr. Kwok as being the person who was 23· ·acquiring the home, correct? 24· · · · ·A.· · That's what her e-mail states, yep. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.

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·2· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· You can put that aside. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if -- having any ·4· ·communications with regard to the Chateau Ridge ·5· ·property related to anyone else in Mr. Kwok's ·6· ·family having any negotiations or role in ·7· ·connection with its purchase? ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I think the only -- ·9· ·again, the only person who I dealt with was Max 10· ·Krasner. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 12· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· We have been going about an 13· · · · ·hour.· Do you want to take a quick break? 14· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Yes, please. 15· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Sure. 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Terrific.· How long do you 17· · · · ·want? 18· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Ten minutes? 19· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· That's great. 20· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· As my floor, but if you 21· · · · ·want longer that's fine. 22· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Ten is fine with me. 23· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay. 24· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the 25· · · · ·record at 11:10 a.m.· This marks the end of

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·4· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are back on the ·5· · · · ·record at 11:30 a.m.· This marks the ·6· · · · ·beginning of Media 2. ·7· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Hi, Ms. Conboy.· How are you? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Good.· How are you? 10· · · · ·Q.· · Good. 11· · · · · · · ·I want to turn to another property. 12· ·Do you recall that Mr. Kwok was also interested in 13· ·purchasing a property at 66 Sherwood in July or 14· ·August of 2019? 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 16· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about that 17· ·potential purchase? 18· · · · ·A.· · I don't think it went very far. I 19· ·don't even think we got contracts. 20· · · · · · · ·So that's all I remember.· I don't 21· ·think it went far at all. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall when Mr. Kwok decided 23· ·not to purchase the property? 24· · · · ·A.· · I recall Max letting me know that they 25· ·weren't going to purchase it, but that was it.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And it never reached the ·3· ·contract stage, right? ·4· · · · ·A.· · I don't think so. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Okay.· We can move on to ·6· ·another property. ·7· · · · · · · ·I know we spoke earlier about the ·8· ·Indian Field property? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Right, right. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall anything else 11· ·about why -- let me strike that actually. 12· · · · · · · ·All right.· The next property that I'm 13· ·aware of that they looked at is -- or maybe not 14· ·sequentially, but do you recall a property at 15· ·11 Hurlingham Drive that was looked at in 16· ·December 2020? 17· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't remember that property. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Let's me ask you to turn to 19· ·Tab 59. 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Are we up to 11? 21· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· I think so. 22· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· Let's mark as 23· · · · ·Tab 11, a document Bates stamped WBAM_008335 24· · · · ·through 339. 25· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 11, e-mail

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·2· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_008335 through ·3· · · · ·339, was marked for identification at this

·5· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Which I believe is an e-mail chain ·7· ·between Mr. Krasner, a Mr. Frank Dong, and ·8· ·yourself. ·9· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? 10· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 11· · · · ·Q.· · And do you see Mr. Krasner writes at 12· ·10:25 a.m. on December 15, 2020:· "Hi, Frank and 13· ·Margaret.· I just spoke with Miles, and he advised 14· ·the team will not move forward on this property.

16· · · · ·A.· · Right. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Does that refresh your recollection 18· ·about Mr. Krasner informing you and Mr. Dong that 19· ·Mr. Kwok did not want to purchase the 20· ·11 Hurlingham Drive property? 21· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember this, but according 22· ·to the e-mail, it says Miles advised the team that 23· ·they're not going forward. 24· · · · ·Q.· · And the vehicle here that Mr. Kwok was 25· ·using to potentially make this purchase was --

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·2· ·appears to be Hudson Diamond, correct? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Correct. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And that's one of the shell companies ·5· ·that Mr. Kwok would use to consider real estate ·6· ·purchases, correct? ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. ·8· · · · ·A.· · It was another LLC that they used to ·9· ·purchase properties. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Right.· And here, it's Mr. Kwok, 11· ·correct, that's who Mr. Krasner spoke with? 12· · · · ·A.· · Well, that's who -- yeah, that's who 13· ·Mr. Krasner said in his e-mail advised him not to 14· ·go forward. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· And let's mark -- turn to 17· · · · ·Tab 57, and mark it as Whitman Breed 18· · · · ·Exhibit 12, document Bates stamped 19· · · · ·WBAM_008641 through 43, which I believe 20· · · · ·you'll tell me is a December 14th, so one 21· · · · ·day prior, e-mail chain between yourself and 22· · · · ·Mr. Frank Dong with regard to 11 Hurlingham 23· · · · ·purchased by Hudson Diamond. 24· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 12, e-mail 25· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_008641 through

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·2· · · · ·643, was marked for identification at this

·4· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you remember Mr. Dong? ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember Mr. Dong. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · If you look at the first e-mail he 10· ·sends you in this chain, which is on 8642, 11· ·Mr. Dong writes you and says (as read):· Hi, 12· ·Margaret.· Nice to e-meet you.· I am the buy side 13· ·agent for the deal.· He goes on and says (as 14· ·read):· Boss came to see the house personally. 15· ·Sellers spent 11 million to renovate the property 16· ·but moved to Florida already.· Boss is willing to 17· ·finish the house himself. 18· · · · · · · ·Did you understand Mr. Dong to be 19· ·referring to Mr. Kwok when he referenced the 20· ·"boss"? 21· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember this, and I don't 22· ·know.· I don't remember this.· I don't remember 23· ·Mr. Dong.· I don't know. 24· · · · ·Q.· · But this is an e-mail you -- you have 25· ·no question that you received this e-mail from

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·2· ·Mr. Dong, correct? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Yes, right, correct. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · And you're not aware of any other ·5· ·decision maker with regard to this property other ·6· ·than Mr. Kwok, correct? ·7· · · · ·A.· · You know, I don't know who else is ·8· ·involved.· I mean, I don't know who else makes ·9· ·decisions in the family, so, I don't know. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Are you aware of -- have you ever been 11· ·told that anyone in the family makes decisions 12· ·with regard to these properties other than 13· ·Mr. Kwok? 14· · · · ·A.· · I've never been told -- I never was 15· ·told who made any of the decisions. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Well, if we look back at Exhibit 11 -- 17· · · · ·A.· · Right, in their e-mails. 18· · · · ·Q.· · In their e-mails, you're told that 19· ·Mr. Kwok is the one that's making the decision, 20· ·correct? 21· · · · ·A.· · Right. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Mr. Krasner does tell you that 23· ·Mr. Kwok advised the team not to move forward. 24· · · · · · · ·And I want to be clear, you were never 25· ·told by Mr. Krasner that any other member of

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·2· ·Mr. Kwok's family ever made a decision with regard ·3· ·to the purchase or not purchase of any property, ·4· ·correct? ·5· · · · ·A.· · Correct, he never told me who made the ·6· ·decisions. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Other than when he told you Mr. Kwok ·8· ·was making decisions? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Other than in that e-mail, from what I 10· ·remember, yep. 11· · · · ·Q.· · And we've seen other e-mails where 12· ·Mr. Kwok -- Mr. Kwok is referenced as negotiating 13· ·and making decisions, correct? 14· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 15· · · · ·Q.· · So to be clear, you were advised 16· ·periodically that Mr. Kwok was making decisions 17· ·with regard to properties, correct? 18· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 19· · · · ·Q.· · And you were never advised that any 20· ·other member of Mr. Kwok's family was making 21· ·decisions with regard to properties, correct? 22· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection of anyone 24· ·in the family ever making a decision with regard 25· ·to a property other than Mr. Kwok?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you believe that you were ever told ·4· ·that? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I really don't remember ·6· ·if anybody else -- I don't know. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · I guess what I'm asking is:· When you ·8· ·say you don't know, is that because you think that ·9· ·someone may have and you can't -- you don't have a

11· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Let's him finish the 12· · · · ·question. 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Right. 14· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, I know you're using your 15· ·best recollection and I appreciate that.· But I 16· ·just -- it's important, I just want to have a 17· ·clear record. 18· · · · · · · ·Do you have a recollection of any 19· ·member of Mr. Kwok's family, other than himself, 20· ·ever providing instructions either through 21· ·Mr. Krasner or directly or any other 22· ·representative with regard to whether to buy or 23· ·sell or how to handle any of the potential 24· ·purchases you were involved with? 25· · · · ·A.· · No, I have no recollection.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Okay.· Let's move on from that ·3· ·property. ·4· · · · · · · ·You recall that Mr. Kwok also involved ·5· ·you with regard to the purchase of 33 Ferncliff ·6· ·Road? ·7· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. ·8· · · · · · · ·You can answer. ·9· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· What do you recall about that 11· ·transaction? 12· · · · ·A.· · That transaction, he was -- or -- Max 13· ·said that -- I believe that it was going to be -- 14· ·the property was going to be for a family member 15· ·or family members and that house -- he -- or I 16· ·think it was Golden Spring or Greenwich Land 17· ·purchased it and bought the property. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall which family member 19· ·Mr. Krasner said would be living in the property? 20· · · · ·A.· · No. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever visit the property? 22· · · · ·A.· · No. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever there when anyone from 24· ·the family visited the property? 25· · · · ·A.· · I've never been to the property.

·2· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know if any member of the ·3· ·family ever visited the property prior to its ·4· ·purchase? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · How would you compare the size of this ·7· ·property to the other properties that Mr. Kwok had ·8· ·been looking at? ·9· · · · ·A.· · This property was less in value. I 10· ·think it was around 2 million. 11· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Let's mark as Whitman Breed

13· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Fourteen. 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Fourteen?· Thank you. 15· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Thirteen. 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Thirteen?· Even better. 17· · · · · · · ·Okay.· It's Bates stamped WBAM_006317. 18· · · · ·It's Tab 37.· It's an e-mail from -- it 19· · · · ·appears to be an e-mail from Ms. Conboy to a 20· · · · ·Joel Kaye, Gideon Fountain, and Martha 21· · · · ·Jeffrey, August 19, 2019 regarding 22· · · · ·33 Ferncliff. 23· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 13, e-mail 24· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_006317, was marked 25· · · · ·for identification at this time.) ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY Page 58

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·2· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recall this e-mail ·4· ·that you wrote? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember it, but I see I wrote ·6· ·it to Joel. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And who is Joel Kaye? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Joel Kaye was the seller's attorney. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · And you write:· "I reviewed the 10· ·changes with my client.· The only change he has is 11· ·with the five business-day grace period - he would 12· ·like to make it three business days because the 13· ·family is moving from California, their lease 14· ·ends, and they need to get the kids settled and

16· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? 17· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 18· · · · ·Q.· · And who is the "he" being referred to 19· ·in this e-mail? 20· · · · ·A.· · Max.· That would be Max. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And do you recall Mr. Krasner 22· ·telling you that the family that was going to live 23· ·at 33 Ferncliff was moving from California? 24· · · · ·A.· · He must have since that's what I wrote 25· ·in the e-mail.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · And the suggestion I also assume is ·3· ·that he told you that there were school-aged ·4· ·children? ·5· · · · ·A.· · Right. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · So this -- the reference to the ·7· ·"family" here is not Mr. Kwok's family, correct, ·8· ·meaning his immediate family? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Correct, correct. 10· · · · ·Q.· · This wasn't a house for his wife and 11· ·adult children, to your understanding? 12· · · · ·A.· · Not to my understanding. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall what the source 14· ·of funds used to pay for this house was? 15· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Now, it says:· "My client is wiring

18· · · · · · · ·Do you recall where they wired the 19· ·funds from? 20· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't remember.· I don't know. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if they purchased the 22· ·house in cash or if they had financing? 23· · · · ·A.· · There was no financing. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did they have to provide any type of 25· ·financial due diligence or representations to the

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·2· ·seller prior to purchasing the house? ·3· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. ·4· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask to mark as ·5· · · · ·Exhibit 14, a document behind Tab 39.· It's ·6· · · · ·Bates stamped WBAM_010121, and it is an ·7· · · · ·August 20, 2019 e-mail from yourself to ·8· · · · ·Ms. Bruno, subject:· "Greenwich Land LLC." ·9· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 14, e-mail 10· · · · ·dated August 20, 2019, Bates stamped 11· · · · ·WBAM_0101021, was marked for identification

13· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 14· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Who is Ms. Bruno? 17· · · · ·A.· · My paralegal. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall sending this 19· ·e-mail? 20· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember sending it, but I 21· ·sent it.· I don't remember. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see you write:· "Can you check 23· ·who the members are of Greenwich Land LLC - I 24· ·would like to confirm that Max Krasner is a member

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·2· · · · · · · ·Do you recall if Ms. Bruno ever did ·3· ·that search? ·4· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if you ever asked ·6· ·Mr. Krasner if he was a member of Greenwich Land ·7· ·LLC? ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever inform you that 10· ·he was not a member of Greenwich Land LLC? 11· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know -- or I should say, at the 13· ·time of the transaction, did you know who the 14· ·member -- who the member or members of Greenwich 15· ·Land LLC were? 16· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember.· I don't remember. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection with 18· ·regard to this issue? 19· · · · ·A.· · No. 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that 21· · · · ·aside. 22· · · · · · · ·I'm going to mark as Exhibit 15, a 23· · · · ·document Bates -- behind Tab 40, Bates 24· · · · ·stamped WBAM_006741, which is an August 30, 25· · · · ·2019 e-mail between yourself Mr. Kaye and a

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·2· · · · ·number of cc's. ·3· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 15, e-mail ·4· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_006741, was marked ·5· · · · ·for identification at this time.) ·6· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · It says (as read):· Joel, my clients 10· ·were at the house, the U-Haul truck hit the side 11· ·of the house.· My client is sending me pictures. 12· ·Brick will need to be replaced. 13· · · · · · · ·Do you recall anything about this? 14· · · · ·A.· · Just that Max called and said that I 15· ·guess this U-Haul truck hit the side of the house, 16· ·and I don't remember how we -- I don't remember 17· ·how we resolved it, if Joel's -- if the seller 18· ·gave a credit or -- or not.· I don't remember. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall who was specifically at 20· ·the house when the U-Haul truck hit it? 21· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 23· · · · · · · ·Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you about 24· ·any members of Mr. Kwok's family other than 25· ·Mr. Kwok ever visiting this property?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember. ·3· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Objection to form. ·4· · · · ·A.· · Not that I remember. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. ·6· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· I ask to mark ·7· · · · ·Exhibit 16, Whitman Breed deposition ·8· · · · ·Exhibit 16, a document behind Tab 41, Bates ·9· · · · ·stamped WBAM_007160 through 64, which is an 10· · · · ·e-mail chain between Ms. Bruno, Mr. Krasner, 11· · · · ·and yourself. 12· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 16, e-mail 13· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_007160 through 14· · · · ·164, was marked for identification at this

16· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 17· · · · ·Q.· · And specifically, do you see that 18· ·document? 19· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 20· · · · ·Q.· · It appears to be an e-mail chain 21· ·described? 22· · · · ·A.· · Excuse me? 23· · · · ·Q.· · Does it appear to be an e-mail chain 24· ·between Mr. Krasner and Ms. Bruno and yourself 25· ·with regard to 33 Ferncliff's inspections?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · If you turn to the Bates stamp ending ·4· ·161, there is an e-mail from Mr. Krasner to ·5· ·Ms. Bruno and yourself on October 21st in which he ·6· ·says:· "Okay.· Thanks.· Let me know what date and ·7· ·I will advise the tenant ahead of time." ·8· · · · · · · ·Ms. Conboy, do you recall that the ·9· ·33 Ferncliff property was going to be rented to a 10· ·tenant? 11· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember that.· I don't 12· ·remember that. 13· · · · ·Q.· · What -- as a real estate professional, 14· ·how would you understand when someone refers to 15· ·that there being a tenant, does that make you 16· ·understand there to be -- it's to be a rental? 17· · · · ·A.· · Well, that there's a -- that there 18· ·would be a lease and they're paying rent or the 19· ·people are living there and paying rent. 20· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I'm going to ask to mark as 21· · · · ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 17, a document Bates 22· · · · ·stamped WBAM_000002 through 05. 23· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· That's Tab 42, right? 24· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes, sir. 25· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 17, Trust

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·2· · · · ·Ledger, Bates stamped WBAM_000002 through 5, ·3· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.) ·4· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this ·6· ·document? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes.· It's a trust ledger for -- for a ·8· ·trustee account. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Can you explain to me what that is? 10· · · · ·A.· · So when we represent anyone in a 11· ·purchase or sale, the money flows through our 12· ·trustee account, and this is -- and it shows what 13· ·goes in, what's wired out, what checks are -- 14· ·are -- go out with a transaction or cut for a 15· ·transaction. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Could you walk me through this 17· ·document generally, what the flow of funds were 18· ·for this transaction? 19· · · · ·A.· · So the first part is the purchase of 20· ·Ferncliff. 21· · · · ·Q.· · And who's the party making the 22· ·purchase of -- it says:· "Golden Spring" -- 23· · · · ·A.· · Golden Spring and Greenwich Land. 24· ·This is Greenwich Land. 25· · · · ·Q.· · So who's the one making the purchase

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·2· ·here? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Greenwich Land, it looks like. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · But the first entry says:· "On behalf

·6· · · · · · · ·So can you just help me sort out how

·8· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· So can I just ask the ·9· · · · ·witness to test -- Avi, are you asking her 10· · · · ·for her memory of the structure of the 11· · · · ·transaction or are you asking her what the 12· · · · ·document is saying?· Because I thought it 13· · · · ·was what the document was saying. 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Well, look, if there is a 15· · · · ·difference, I would like to know.· I'm just 16· · · · ·really -- Ms. Conboy is -- as your 17· · · · ·representative, I'm just asking her to 18· · · · ·explain to me how -- how to understand this 19· · · · ·ledger. 20· · · · · · · ·And I don't know if there's a 21· · · · ·distinction between how she understands it 22· · · · ·today, so I could ask that foundational 23· · · · ·question. 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Well, there might be 25· · · · ·other documents -- if you want to know how

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·2· · · · ·it was structured or purchased or whatever, ·3· · · · ·there might be other documents that are, you ·4· · · · ·know, better for that than this. ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I just want to understand ·6· · · · ·how this document works.· This is -- well, ·7· · · · ·why don't we just take it in pieces. ·8· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·9· · · · ·Q.· · This is Whitman Breed's trust ledger, 10· ·correct? 11· · · · ·A.· · Right, right.· It's an accounting. 12· ·It's our accounting.· So for every sale we do 13· ·this. 14· · · · · · · ·So it looks like -- it looks like a 15· ·million two came in on August 27th on behalf of 16· ·Golden Spring. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 18· · · · ·A.· · And then it was Capital One, but then 19· ·it has Greenwich, so it was probably for the 20· ·benefit of Greenwich Land LLC. 21· · · · · · · ·And then these checks on the other 22· ·side are everything that's going out, like First 23· ·American Title Insurance, the balance due to the 24· ·other attorney, the down payment -- let's see -- 25· ·the Town of Greenwich recording fees.· So those

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·2· ·are all the items coming out. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · And they all say:· "On behalf of ·4· ·Golden Springs."· So if I'm following along, this ·5· ·is Golden Spring paying the 1.24 million on behalf ·6· ·of Greenwich Land, and then there's all the money ·7· ·that goes out and that's all -- it says:· "On ·8· ·behalf of" -- so those are payments being made on ·9· ·behalf of Golden Spring out of the account, 10· ·correct? 11· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I can't say that for 12· ·sure because our accounting -- I don't know if 13· ·that's correct or not.· Because the accounting, 14· ·they just used -- those are numbers of how we 15· ·refer to matters.· I don't know if that's actually 16· ·how it -- how they -- how -- if Golden Spring -- I 17· ·don't know.· I don't know. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Well, what does it mean when it says 19· ·(as read):· Out:· J.P. Morgan Chase on behalf of 20· ·Golden Spring, just explain, how does that work? 21· ·What does that mean? 22· · · · ·A.· · I'd have to ask my bookkeeper. I 23· ·don't know. 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Form. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Does it indicate that this is a

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·2· ·payment on behalf of anyone other than Golden ·3· ·Spring? ·4· · · · ·A.· · Or of Greenwich Land.· I don't -- ·5· · · · ·Q.· · There's no reference to Greenwich Land ·6· ·there, right? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes -- yeah, there is. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Where? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Greenwich Land LLC purchased 10· ·33 Ferncliff. 11· · · · · · · ·These are questions that you'd have to 12· ·ask my bookkeeper, because I really don't know how 13· ·they label these things, but you've got Greenwich 14· ·Land LLC up there, too. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Well, under "In," they received money 16· ·from -- right, there's money coming in from Golden 17· ·Spring on behalf of Greenwich Land, that's what 18· ·you told me, right? 19· · · · ·A.· · That's what it says here. 20· · · · ·Q.· · For all the "out" entries, all the 21· ·outs just reference Golden Spring, not Greenwich 22· ·Land, correct? 23· · · · ·A.· · No. 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Hey, Avi, do you want 25· · · · ·to go off the record for a minute?

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·2· · · · · · · ·If you want to go off the record, we ·3· · · · ·can probably explain it a little bit more ·4· · · · ·clearly. ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Sure, we can go off the ·6· · · · ·record for a second. ·7· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the ·8· · · · ·record at 11:57 a.m.

10· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are back on the 11· · · · ·record at 11:59 a.m. 12· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 13· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, a couple other questions. 14· · · · · · · ·In the middle, there's a grayed 15· ·outline which says:· "In:· Converted from tabs on 16· ·behalf of Golden Spring."· On the bottom, it says:

18· · · · · · · ·Is that money coming in from Hudson 19· ·Diamond into this account? 20· · · · ·A.· · I'm not sure where you're looking. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Right in the middle, there's a big

23· · · · · · · ·Entry No. 795777? 24· · · · ·A.· · 795777. 25· · · · · · · ·That was your receipts.· So it looks

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·2· ·like -- oh, I see here.· There was a receipt for ·3· ·\$2,800. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· My question is just:· Is that ·5· ·money coming from Hudson Diamond, because it says: ·6· ·"In"? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Again, I don't know.· It's not clear ·8· ·to me if -- it's not clear.· I don't understand ·9· ·how they're -- how this program was working. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Understood. 11· · · · ·A.· · Yeah. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· I guess we'll try to clarify it 13· ·later. 14· · · · · · · ·One other question, if you can answer 15· ·it:· If you turn to the next page, there's an 16· ·entry that says 1102379, and it's a distribution 17· ·of approximately 2.27 million on behalf of Golden 18· ·Spring, and it says:· "Bank:· The First Bank of 19· ·Greenwich."· Regarding net sale proceeds, 33 -- 20· ·can you just -- is that the bank account from

22· · · · ·A.· · That's the bank -- they told us to -- 23· ·Max Krasner told us to wire the sales proceeds to 24· ·that account. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Got it.

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·2· · · · · · · ·So this is money that -- ·3· · · · ·A.· · The sale proceeds. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · This is from when the house, 33 ·5· ·Ferncliff, was sold? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Right, correct. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · So when 33 Ferncliff was sold again ·8· ·and Mr. Kwok was the seller, this was the bank ·9· ·account that the money was sent to, correct?· This 10· ·is First Bank of Greenwich? 11· · · · ·A.· · That's what Max advised me to wire it 12· ·to that account. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· There is a block over the 14· ·account number. 15· · · · · · · ·Is that a redaction you made or the 16· ·firm made? 17· · · · ·A.· · Yeah. 18· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· We'd ask that you 19· · · · ·provide us with the full account number. 20· · · · · · · ·So, Michael, maybe that's something 21· · · · ·maybe you can get accounting to provide us 22· · · · ·as well. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Did Mr. Krasner tell you whose 24· ·bank account that was? 25· · · · ·A.· · No.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · And that's not the bank account from ·3· ·which the funds were given to originally purchase ·4· ·the house, correct? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · If we look at the trust ledger, that ·7· ·was a Capital One account? ·8· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· You have to answer

10· · · · ·A.· · Yes, yes. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So the money to purchase 12· ·33 Ferncliff came from a Capital One account but 13· ·the proceeds from selling that home in 2022 went 14· ·to a First Bank of Greenwich account, correct? 15· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 16· · · · ·Q.· · And you were never told in whose name 17· ·that First Bank of Greenwich bank account 18· ·belonged, correct? 19· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 20· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any other information 21· ·about who received the proceeds of 33 Ferncliff 22· ·other than the fact that it was sent to this First 23· ·Bank of Greenwich account? 24· · · · ·A.· · No. 25· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Are we up to 18, I believe?

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·2· · · · · · · ·Does that sound right to everyone? ·3· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Yes. ·4· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· I ask to mark as Whitman ·5· · · · ·Breed Deposition Exhibit 18, a document ·6· · · · ·behind Tab 60, Bates stamped 008330 through ·7· · · · ·34, which is an e-mail chain between ·8· · · · ·Mr. Krasner and Ms. Conboy regarding ·9· · · · ·33 Ferncliff dated February 10, 2021. 10· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 18, e-mail 11· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_008330 through 12· · · · ·334, was marked for identification at this

14· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Are you saying 8330 to 15· · · · ·334? 16· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes. 17· · ·BY MR. LUFT: 18· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this 19· ·e-mail chain between you and Mr. Krasner? 20· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember it, but it's an 21· ·e-mail chain between us, but I don't remember. 22· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see Mr. Krasner in February of 23· ·2021 talks about gifting 33 Ferncliff to a Qing 24· ·Cai? 25· · · · · · · ·Do you see that?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about any ·4· ·discussions regarding the gifting of 33 Ferncliff ·5· ·to a Qing Cai? ·6· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember anything about that. ·7· ·I don't remember gifting it.· I don't remember if ·8· ·we ever even filed the deed quitclaiming it to ·9· ·that person. 10· · · · ·Q.· · And ultimately, that wasn't done

12· · · · ·A.· · Title is still in Greenwich Land. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Right, because they sell it 14· ·landlocked? 15· · · · ·A.· · Yeah, so I don't remember. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection about who 17· ·Qing Cai was? 18· · · · ·A.· · No. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see from Exhibit 18, it appears 20· ·that Qing Cai was the person -- the tenant living 21· ·at 33 Ferncliff Road? 22· · · · ·A.· · That the -- Max has her -- has his or 23· ·her address as 33 Ferncliff. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall any discussion about 25· ·Mr. Kwok wanting to gift the property to Ms. Cai

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·2· ·or to anyone else? ·3· · · · ·A.· · As I said, I haven't talked to -- I ·4· ·never talked to Mr. Kwok.· It was Max.· So I don't ·5· ·remember Max telling me about gifting it. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · But you understood Mr. Krasner worked ·7· ·for the owner, not that Mr. Krasner was the owner, ·8· ·correct? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Right, correct, correct. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Do you have any recollection about why 11· ·the decision was made not to gift it and, in fact, 12· ·to hold onto the property? 13· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. 14· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall -- we've talked a 15· ·little bit about this -- that in April of 2022, in 16· ·fact, 33 Ferncliff Road was sold? 17· · · · ·A.· · Right. 18· · · · ·Q.· · When was the first time you heard that 19· ·the owner of 33 Ferncliff wanted to sell the 20· ·property? 21· · · · ·A.· · I -- I don't remember.· It would 22· ·either be from Max or the broker.· I don't 23· ·remember which one. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did they ever tell you anything about 25· ·why they wanted to sell the house?

·2· · · · ·A.· · No. ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Did they ever discuss with you the ·4· ·fact that there was an order from a New York State ·5· ·Court restraining sale of assets of Mr. Kwok? ·6· · · · ·A.· · No. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Or that they had been served process ·8· ·with regard to not selling this house? ·9· · · · ·A.· · No. 10· · · · ·Q.· · That's not something Mr. Krasner told 11· ·you, correct? 12· · · · ·A.· · No, correct. 13· · · · ·Q.· · How long do you recall the process 14· ·being from when the house -- when you were first 15· ·told that they were thinking of selling the house 16· ·to when it was sold? 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember the dates. I 18· ·don't -- I don't know.· I don't remember the 19· ·dates. 20· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall it being a relatively 21· ·quick process? 22· · · · ·A.· · No.· I don't remember.· I don't 23· ·remember it being relatively quick.· I don't 24· ·remember how long it took. 25· · · · ·Q.· · Given the fact that at some point you ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY Page 78

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·9· ·Greenwich bank account, do you have any knowledge 10· ·as to where the proceeds for 33 Ferncliff went 11· ·once they were transferred?

19· ·with her?

22· ·that refresh your recollection?

·5· ·sold? 16· ·wife? ·1· · · · · · · · · · MARGARET E. CONBOY ·2· ·were told that the property was going to be ·3· ·gifted, do you recall ever being surprised to hear ·4· ·that now they were -- now the property was to be ·6· · · · ·A.· · No, I -- no, I wasn't surprised. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And other than the fact that the ·8· ·proceeds or the money were sent to the First 12· · · · ·A.· · No, no.· No. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever speak with Mrs. Kwok? 14· · · · ·A.· · No. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know the name of Mr. Kwok's 17· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea, no. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever had any communications 20· · · · ·A.· · No. 21· · · · ·Q.· · If I said the name Hin Chi Nok, would 23· · · · ·A.· · Nope. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever given any instructions 25· ·from someone on behalf of Mr. -- Ms. Nok with

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·2· ·regard to any of the properties? ·3· · · · ·A.· · Not that I'm aware of. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know if Ms. Nok had any ·5· ·involvement whatsoever in connection with the sale ·6· ·of 33 Ferncliff? ·7· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · How about the debtor's son, Miles' ·9· ·son, Guo? 10· · · · ·A.· · I don't know, no. 11· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever heard that name before? 12· · · · ·A.· · No, I haven't. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever heard the name Chen Guo? 14· · · · ·A.· · No. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever receive any instructions 16· ·with regard to 33 Ferncliff that you were told 17· ·were being given on behalf of Mr. Chen Guo -- 18· · · · ·A.· · Yeah, not that I'm aware of. 19· · · · ·Q.· · And the same question:· Were you ever 20· ·given any -- were you ever told -- are you aware 21· ·of any involvement that Mae Guo had with -- in 22· ·connection with 33 Ferncliff? 23· · · · ·A.· · No. 24· · · · ·Q.· · In all your communications with 25· ·Mr. Krasner, did he ever tell you that he needed

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·2· ·to get approval from Mr. Kwok's son prior to ·3· ·making any decisions? ·4· · · · ·A.· · No. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you that he ·6· ·needed to get approval from Mr. Kwok's wife, ·7· ·Ms. Nok, prior to making any decisions? ·8· · · · ·A.· · No. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Did he ever tell you he needed to get 10· ·approval from Mr. Kwok's daughter, Ms. Mae Guo, 11· ·prior to making any decisions? 12· · · · ·A.· · No. 13· · · · ·Q.· · Is that true for all properties that 14· ·you looked at on behalf of Mr. Kwok? 15· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 17· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· We can put that to one 18· · · · ·side. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Now, there was another property that 20· ·involved Mr. Kwok where you did not represent him, 21· ·right, 373 Taconic Road? 22· · · · ·A.· · That's right. 23· · · · ·Q.· · And you represented the seller when 24· ·Mr. Kwok was the buyer of that property, correct? 25· · · · ·A.· · Correct.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · And did you get a waiver such that you ·3· ·could represent the seller in that property even ·4· ·though Mr. Kwok was to be the buyer? ·5· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · What do you recall about that ·7· ·transaction? ·8· · · · ·A.· · I don't recall anything unusual in the ·9· ·transaction, nothing out of the ordinary. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Do you recall receiving 11· ·financial due diligence from the potential buyer 12· ·prior to completing -- entering into a contract? 13· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. 14· · · · ·Q.· · How about once a contract was entered 15· ·into? 16· · · · ·A.· · No, I don't. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if there was financing 18· ·for this home? 19· · · · ·A.· · Excuse me? 20· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall if there was any 21· ·financing for this home? 22· · · · ·A.· · I don't -- I don't remember.· I don't 23· ·know. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Do you recall what funds Mr. Kwok used 25· ·to purchase 3073 Ferncliff -- Taconic Road --

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·2· ·excuse me? ·3· · · · ·A.· · I don't know. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And your client was a ·5· ·Mr. Augustine, correct? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Correct. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · And you had represented Mr. Augustine ·8· ·previously? ·9· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 10· · · · ·Q.· · Do you remember Mr. Emile deNeree was 11· ·the broker on behalf of the buyer for that 12· ·transaction? 13· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember. 14· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Let's mark as Whitman Breed 15· · · · ·Deposition Exhibit 19.· Is that right? 16· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Yep. 17· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Great. 18· · · · · · · ·Document behind Tab 55.· Document 19· · · · ·Bates stamped WBAM_009051 through 53, which 20· · · · ·I believe you'll tell me is an e-mail chain 21· · · · ·between yourself, Mr. deNeree, Mr. Krasner 22· · · · ·and Ms. Bruno regarding 373 Taconic Road. 23· · · · · · · ·(Whitman Breed Exhibit 19, e-mail 24· · · · ·chain, Bates stamped WBAM_009051 through 53, 25· · · · ·was marked for identification at this time.)

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·2· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·3· · · · ·Q.· · Do you see that? ·4· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · And, in fact, there's an earlier ·6· ·e-mail in the chain also from a Ms. Julie Burke to ·7· ·Mr. deNeree that starts this all off, right? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · And she has questions regarding funds 10· ·still being held in escrow, correct? 11· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 12· · · · ·Q.· · And then Mr. deNeree writes to you on 13· ·August 19th, and he says:· "Dear Margaret and 14· ·Max" -- that's you and Mr. Krasner, correct? 15· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 16· · · · ·Q.· · "The sellers for 373 Taconic" -- and 17· ·that's Mr. Augustine, your client, right? 18· · · · ·A.· · Yes. 19· · · · ·Q.· · "Which was bought by Miles under 20· ·Greenwich Land" -- and that's Mr. Kwok purchasing 21· ·it through Greenwich Land, correct? 22· · · · ·A.· · I -- yeah, that's what it says. 23· ·That's what the e-mail says. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Did you have any different 25· ·understanding about the transaction?

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·2· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember how they purchased ·3· ·it.· I really don't remember. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· "Are asking that the escrow

·6· · · · · · · ·Do you see that? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · And you inform Mr. deNeree that you ·9· ·represented Mr. Augustine, so either Mr. Krasner 10· ·or the purchasing attorney would be the one that 11· ·needed to be contacted, correct? 12· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 13· · · · ·Q.· · And Mr. deNeree was the broker for 14· ·the buyer, not the seller, correct? 15· · · · ·A.· · I don't remember, but it looks like 16· ·that from the e-mail. 17· · · · ·Q.· · And he's saying -- as the broker for 18· ·the buyer, he's saying that the house was 19· ·bought -- he's telling you that the house was 20· ·bought by Mr. Kwok under the name of Greenwich 21· ·Land; correct? 22· · · · ·A.· · Right. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 24· · · · · · · ·When was the last transaction you 25· ·performed on behalf of Mr. Kwok, Greenwich Land,

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·2· ·Golden Springs or any other entity affiliated with ·3· ·Mr. Kwok? ·4· · · · ·A.· · It was the sale of Ferncliff. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · And otherwise, you were just -- you ·6· ·were on the opposite side of the transaction with ·7· ·regard to 373 Taconic Road, correct? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Correct. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Have you ever been on the opposite 10· ·side of any other transactions involving Mr. Kwok? 11· · · · ·A.· · No.· Not that I'm aware of, no. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Since the Ferncliff property, has 13· ·Mr. Kwok or Mr. Krasner or anyone else affiliated 14· ·with Mr. Kwok ever reached out to you with 15· ·regard -- or your firm with regard to any other 16· ·potential work? 17· · · · ·A.· · I don't think so.· Not that I recall. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Are you aware of any other attorneys 19· ·that have represented Mr. Kwok in connection with 20· ·real estate dealings? 21· · · · ·A.· · No, not that I know of.· Just 373 22· ·but -- I don't -- that's it. 23· · · · ·Q.· · Other than finding out through Google 24· ·that Mr. Kwok is a billionaire of Chinese descent, 25· ·what else did you learn about Mr. Kwok in your

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·2· ·dealings with him? ·3· · · · ·A.· · That was it.· I really didn't learn ·4· ·too much about him. ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Did any of the brokers ever tell you ·6· ·anything about Mr. Kwok? ·7· · · · ·A.· · No.· Not that I remember, no. ·8· · · · ·Q.· · Did you ever come to learn anything ·9· ·about the entity called "Greenwich Land" other 10· ·than what we've discussed today? 11· · · · ·A.· · No. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know of any person other than 13· ·Mr. Kwok who has any interest or control over 14· ·Greenwich Land? 15· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever told that there was 17· ·anyone other than Mr. Kwok who controlled 18· ·Greenwich Land? 19· · · · ·A.· · I wasn't told who, as I said, 20· ·controlled it. 21· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever told who had controlled 22· ·Golden Spring? 23· · · · ·A.· · No. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Were you ever told that there was any 25· ·decision maker other than Mr. Kwok in connection

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·2· ·with real estate transactions related to the work ·3· ·you were doing for Golden Spring, Greenwich Land, ·4· ·or Hudson Diamond? ·5· · · · ·A.· · I was never told who was making the ·6· ·decisions on any of them.

·8· · · · ·A.· · Yeah, except in the e-mails, whatever ·9· ·was sent to me, but that was it. 10· · · · ·Q.· · And in those e-mails, the only person 11· ·referenced was Miles Kwok, correct? 12· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 13· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· Why don't we take a 14· · · · ·quick break. 15· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· How long are you 16· · · · ·thinking? 17· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Ten minutes? 18· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay.· I'll go run over 19· · · · ·to the accounting people and see if I can 20· · · · ·get that question answered. 21· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yeah, if you could check 22· · · · ·for that account number, too, that would be 23· · · · ·great. 24· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· Okay.· Thanks. 25· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the

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·4· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· We are back on the ·5· · · · ·record at 12:38 p.m. ·6· · ·BY MR. LUFT: ·7· · · · ·Q.· · Ms. Conboy, I'm going to ask you to ·8· ·pull out Deposition Exhibit 17 again, which was ·9· ·Bates stamped WBAM_00002 through 00005. 10· · · · · · · ·Do you have that in front of you? 11· · · · ·A.· · I do. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Now, your counsel has told me 13· ·he's going to send me a non-redacted version with 14· ·regard to the account for First Bank of Greenwich, 15· ·so that will take care of that.· Okay? 16· · · · ·A.· · Right.· Sure, yep. 17· · · · ·Q.· · And then I believe -- and I just want 18· ·to clarify, because I believe you've done a little 19· ·digging, which is very helpful, which is to say 20· ·the entries with regard to which bank, whether it 21· ·be Capital One or First Greenwich, all those -- 22· ·those are actual manual entries done by Whitman 23· ·Breed's accounting department based on the 24· ·information they know to be true, correct? 25· · · · ·A.· · That's right, yeah, correct.

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·2· · · · ·Q.· · Terrific. ·3· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay.· You can put that ·4· · · · ·aside. ·5· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Okay. ·6· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right.· Ms. Conboy, we've ·7· ·talked about a number of properties today. I ·8· ·believe every one we've talked about, with the ·9· ·exception of 373 Taconic, are properties that you 10· ·represented Mr. Kwok's interests in as potential 11· ·purchases.· I know -- is that correct? 12· · · · ·A.· · Correct, correct. 13· · · · ·Q.· · And for all of those, I believe you 14· ·interacted with Mr. Max Krasner as the 15· ·representative of Mr. Kwok, correct? 16· · · · ·A.· · Correct. 17· · · · ·Q.· · Okay. 18· · · · ·A.· · Right. 19· · · · ·Q.· · In your dealings with Mr. Krasner as 20· ·Mr. Kwok's representative in connection with the 21· ·purchase of 33 Ferncliff, was there any difference 22· ·in how you interacted with him with regard to that 23· ·property as opposed to the interactions you had 24· ·with Mr. Krasner in connection with any of the 25· ·other properties Mr. Kwok considered purchasing

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·2· ·but did not purchase? ·3· · · · ·A.· · No, no. ·4· · · · ·Q.· · Great. ·5· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Ms. Conboy, one last thing ·6· · · · ·of housekeeping we talked about is that as ·7· · · · ·we -- I've talked with your counsel, I ·8· · · · ·mentioned to you, we're going to work on an ·9· · · · ·affidavit or declaration with regard to 10· · · · ·authentication and business record just so 11· · · · ·we could save your time, but subject to 12· · · · ·getting that wrapped up and getting a 13· · · · ·declaration put in, I have no further 14· · · · ·questions for you at this time. 15· · · · · · · ·Thank you very much. 16· · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Thank you.· Thank you. 17· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Did you have anything, 18· · · · ·Mr. Thomason? 19· · · · · · · ·MR. THOMASON:· No. 20· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· Okay.· Are we all set 21· · · · ·to go off the record, Counsel? 22· · · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· We are. 23· · · · · · · ·VIDEOGRAPHER:· This concludes today's 24· · · · ·testimony of Margaret E. Conboy.· We're 25· · · · ·going off the record at 12:41 p.m.· This

·2· · · · ·also concludes Media 2. ·3· · · · · · · ·(Whereupon the proceedings were

·6· · · · · · · ·I, MARGARET E. CONBOY, the witness ·7· · · · ·herein, do hereby certify that the foregoing ·8· · · · ·testimony of the pages of this deposition to ·9· · · · ·be a true and correct transcript, subject to 10· · · · ·the corrections, if any, shown on the 11· · · · ·attached page. 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · ·__________________________ 13· · · · · · · · · · · · · ·MARGARET E. CONBOY 14· ·Subscribed and sworn to before me this 15· ·_______day of _______________,_______.

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·3· · · · · · ·I, AMY A. RIVERA, a Certified Shorthand ·4· ·Reporter, Registered Professional Reporter, ·5· ·Certified LiveNote Reporter, and Notary Public of ·6· ·the State of New Jersey, do hereby certify that ·7· ·prior to the commencement of the examination ·8· ·MARGARET E. CONBOY, was duly sworn by me to testify ·9· ·the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the 10· ·truth. 11· · · · · · ·I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that the foregoing is 12· ·a true and accurate transcript of the testimony as 13· ·taken stenographically by and before me at the time, 14· ·place and on the date hereinbefore set forth. 15· · · · · · ·I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a 16· ·relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel of 17· ·any of the parties to this action, and that I am 18· ·neither a relative nor employee of such attorney or 19· ·counsel, and that I am not financially interested in 20· ·the action.

22· · · · · · ·________________________________________ · · · · · · · ·Amy A. Rivera, CSR, RPR, CLR 23· · · · · · ·Notary Public of the State of New Jersey · · · · · · · ·My commission expires July 29, 2025

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·8· ·NUMBER· · · · · · · · · ·DESCRIPTION· · · · · PAGE ·9· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 1· Letter dated October· ·19 10· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1, 2018, Bates 11· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_001464 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 465 13· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 2· E-mail dated October· ·21 14· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3, 2019, Bates 15· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_10076 16· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 3· Letter dated August· · 23 17· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16, 2019, Bates 18· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_000035

20· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 4· E-mail chain, Bates· · 25 21· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002235 22· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 237 23· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 5· E-mail chain, Bates· · 29 24· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_001048

·3· ·NUMBER· · · · · · · · · ·DESCRIPTION· · · · · PAGE ·4· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 6· E-mail chain, Bates· · 30 ·5· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002663 ·6· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 672 ·7· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 7· E-mail chain, Bates· · 33 ·8· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002803 ·9· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 808 10· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 8· E-mail chain, Bates· · 36 11· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_002172 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 173 13· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 9· E-mail chain, Bates· · 41 14· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_003873 15· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 876 16· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 10 E-mail chain, Bates· · 46 17· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_003873 18· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 876 19· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 11 E-mail chain, Bates· · 50 20· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_008335 21· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 339 22· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 12 E-mail chain, Bates· · 52 23· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_008641 24· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 643

·3· ·NUMBER· · · · · · · · · ·DESCRIPTION· · · · · PAGE ·4· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 13 E-mail chain, Bates· · 58 ·5· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_006317 ·6· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 14 E-mail dated August· · 61 ·7· · · · · · · · · · · · · · 20, 2019, Bates ·8· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_0101021 ·9· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 15 E-mail chain, Bates· · 63 10· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_006741 11· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 16 E-mail chain, Bates· · 64 12· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_007160 13· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 164 14· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 17 Trust Ledger, Bates· · 65 15· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_000002

17· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 18 E-mail chain, Bates· · 75 18· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_008330 19· · · · · · · · · · · · · · through 334 20· ·Whitman Breed Exhibit 19 E-mail chain, Bates· · 83 21· · · · · · · · · · · · · · stamped WBAM_009051

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