Guo Wengui / Miles Guo — bankruptcy case · EXHIBIT · ECF #2032-47

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Defendant
Guo Wengui / Miles Guo / Ho Wan Kwok
Court
CTB
Case No.
22-50073
ECF #
2032
Type
EXHIBIT

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## **Exhibit 47**

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| 1 | Page 1 | |----|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | 2· ·UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT | | | 3· ·DISTRICT OF CONNECTICUT | | | 4· ·BRIDGEPORT DIVISION | | | 5· ·---------------------------------------X | | | 6· ·In Re: | | | · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Chapter 11<br>7· · · · · · ·HO WAN KWOK,· · · · · · · · · Case No. | | | · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 22-50073 (JAM)<br>8· · · · · · · · · · · ·Debtor. | | | 9· ·---------------------------------------X | | 10 | | | | 11· · · ·REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF HO WAN KWOK | | | 12· · · · · · · · ·Thursday, March 2, 2023 | | 13 | | | 14 | | | 15 | | | | 16· ·Reported by: | | | 17· ·Angela M. Shaw-Crockett, CCR, CRR, RMR, CSR | | | 18· ·Job 222883 | | 19 | | | 20 | | | 21 | | | | · · ·22 | | 23 | | | 24 | | | 25 | | | | |

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| | Page 2 | | Page 3 | |----|--------------------------------------------------------|----|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 1 | | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | 2 | | | ·2· ·R E M O T E· ·A P P E A R A N C E S: | | | 3· · · · · · · · · · March 2, 2023 | | ·3· ·PAUL HASTINGS LLP<br>· · · · · · Attorneys for TRUSTEE | | | 4· · · · · · · · · ·10:28 a.m. | | ·4· · · · · 200 Park Avenue | | 5 | | | · · · · · · New York, New York· 10166 | | | | ·5 | | | | 6· · REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF HO WAN KWOK, | | · · ·BY:· AVRAM LUFT, ESQ. | | | 7· · before Angela M. Shaw-Crockett, a Certified Court | | ·6· · · · DOUGLASS BARRON, ESQ. | | | 8· · Reporter, Certified Realtime Reporter, Registered | ·7 | · · · · · WILL FARMER, ESQ. | | | 9· · Merit Reporter and Notary Public of the States of | | ·8· ·CHIESA SHAHINIAN & GIANTOMASI PC | | | 10· · New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. | | · · · · · · Attorneys for HK INTERNATIONAL | | 11 | | | ·9· · · · · MEI GUO | | 12 | | | · · · · · · One Boland Drive | | 13 | | | 10· · · · · West Orange, New Jersey 07052 | | 14 | | 12 | 11· ·BY:· ·PATRICIA BERGAMASCO, ESQ. | | | | | 13· ·ZEISLER & ZEISLER P.C. | | 15 | | | · · · · · · Attorneys for HK INTERNATIONAL | | 16 | | | 14· · · · · MEI GUO | | 17 | | | · · · · · · 10 Middle Street | | 18 | | | 15· · · · · Bridgeport, Connecticut· 06604 | | 19 | | 17 | 16· ·BY:· ·AARON ROMNEY, ESQ. | | 20 | | | 18· ·ALSO PRESENT:· Matthew Chin-Quee, The Videographer | | 21 | | | 19· · · · · · · · · Luyi Song, Law Clerk, Paul Hastings | | 22 | | | 20· · · · · · · · · Jingyi Wang, Mandarin Interpreter | | | | | 21· · · · · · · · · Una Wilkinson, Mandarin Check Interpreter | | 23 | | 23 | 22· · · · · · **· · · · · · · **· · · · · · · ·** | | 24 | | 24 | | | 25 | | 25 | | | | Page 4 | | Page 5 | | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · H. Kwok | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · H. Kwok | | | ·2· · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Good morning.· My name | | ·2· · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Thank you. | | | ·3· ·is Matthew Chin-Quee.· I'm a legal videographer | | ·3· · · · This is the start of tape number 1 of the | | | | | | | | ·4· ·in association with TSG Reporting.· I won't be | | ·4· ·videotaped deposition of Ho Wan Kwok in the | | | ·5· ·in the same room with the witness.· I'll record | | ·5· ·matter In Re: Ho Wan Kwok in the United States | | | ·6· ·the deposition remotely.· The reporter, | | ·6· ·Bankruptcy Court District of Connecticut | | | ·7· ·Angie Shaw-Crockett also will not be in the | | ·7· ·Bridgeport Division, number 22-50073 (JAM). | | | ·8· ·same room and will swear the witness remotely. | | ·8· ·The parties have agreed to appear remotely on | | | ·9· · · · Do parties stipulate to the validity of | | ·9· ·March 2, 2023, at approximately 10:28 a.m. | | | 10· ·the video recording and remote swearing and | | 10· · · · My name is Matthew Chin-Quee from | | | 11· ·that it will be admissible in the courtroom as | | 11· ·TSG Reporting, and I'm the legal video | | | 12· ·if it had been taken following Rule 30 of the | | 12· ·specialist.· The court reporter is | | | | | | | | 13· ·Federal Rules of Civil Procedures and the | | 13· ·Angie Shaw-Crockett, in association with | | | 14· ·state's rules where the case is pending? | | 14· ·TSG Reporting. | | | 15· · · · MR. LUFT:· This is Avi Luft on behalf of | | 15· · · · Will all counsel please introduce | | | 16· ·the Chapter 11 trustee, and we agree. | | 16· ·yourself. | | | 17· · · · MR. ROMNEY:· Yes, Aaron Romney, | | 17· · · · MR. LUFT:· Hi.· This is Avi Luft of | | | | | | | | 18· ·Zeisler & Zeisler on behalf of the debtor, the | | 18· ·Paul Hastings.· I represent the Chapter 11 | | | | | | | | 19· ·witness.· We agree. | | 19· ·trustee in, in Re: Ho Wan Kwok.· Along with me | | | 20· · · · MS. BERGAMASCO:· Patricia Bergamasco on | | 20· ·are my colleagues Douglass Barron, Will Farmer, | | | 21· ·behalf of Mei Guo and HK International. | | 21· ·and Luyi Song, who is a law clerk. | | | 22· · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Thank you. | | 22· · · · MR. ROMNEY:· Aaron Romney, | | | 23· · · · This is the -- | | 23· ·Zeisler & Zeisler.· I represent the Debtor | | | 24· · · · MR. LUFT:· You agree? | | 24· ·Mr. Kwok in the main bankruptcy case.· Also | | | 25· · · · MS. BERGAMASCO:· Yes.· My apologies. | | 25· ·representing him in his capacity as a witness |

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| Page 6 | Page 7 | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | ·2· · · · today in this adversary proceeding.· I do also | ·2· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Great. | | ·3· · · · have an appearance on behalf of Mei Guo and | ·3· ·EXAMINATION | | ·4· · · · HKI USA in this adversary proceeding. | ·4· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | ·5· · · · · · ·MS. BERGAMASCO:· This is Patricia | ·5· · · · Q.· ·Good morning, Mr. Kwok.· How are you? | | ·6· · · · Bergamasco from Zeisler & Zeisler, representing | ·6· · · · A.· ·I'm very well, Counsel.· How are you this | | ·7· · · · Mei Guo and HK International USA in the | ·7· ·morning? | | ·8· · · · adversary proceeding. | ·8· · · · Q.· ·I'm well.· Thank you for asking. | | ·9· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Thank you. | ·9· · · · · · ·Before we start, I'm going to read through | | 10· · · · · · ·Will the court reporter please swear in | 10· ·the terms that counsel has agreed to with regard to | | 11· · · · the Interpreter and the witness. | 11· ·this remote deposition today.· There are multiple, | | 12· ·J I N G Y I· ·W A N G, | 12· ·so I think what I will do, I will pause after each | | 13· · · · · having been first duly sworn by a Notary | 13· ·one so that the Interpreter has an opportunity to | | 14· · · · · Public within and for the State of New York, | 14· ·just translate it.· I'm not looking for an answer, | | 15· · · · · translated the questions from | 15· ·I'm just more just stating what they are.· But I | | 16· · · · · English to Mandarin and the answers | 16· ·think that will be easier. | | | 17· · · · · · ·Trustee has agreed to take the debtor's | | 17· · · · · from Mandarin to English under oath as | | | 18· · · · · follows: | 18· ·deposition remotely today based on the following | | 19· · Ho Wan Kwok, having been called as a witness, having been | 19· ·agreements agreed to by debtor's counsel, on his | | 20· ·first duly sworn (through an Interpreter),· was examined and | 20· ·behalf:· First, HK USA and Ms. Mei Guo no longer | | 21· ·testified as follows: | 21· ·intend to call the debtor to offer testimony on | | 22· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Thank you. | 22· ·their behalf and have removed him from their list of | | 23· · · · · · ·THE INTERPRETER:· And just a note from the | 23· ·intended hearing witnesses. | | 24· · · · Interpreter.· The Interpreter has received the | 24· · · · · · ·The taking of this deposition remotely is | | 25· · · · link, and the realtime is now working. | 25· ·based on the understanding that other than questions | | | | | Page 8 | Page 9 | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | ·1· · · · · · · · · · H. Kwok | | ·2· ·regarding Mr. Kwok's name, his address, and | ·2· ·record at 10:37 a.m. | | ·3· ·identifying who his family members are, it is the | ·3· · · · (Recess.) | | ·4· ·debtor's intention to assert his Fifth Amendment | ·4· · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're back on the | | ·5· ·rights to any questions posed at this deposition. | ·5· ·record at 10:45 a.m. | | ·6· · · · · · ·If the debtor attempts to assert -- to | ·6· · · · MR. LUFT:· I will keep going with the | | ·7· ·not -- excuse me.· Let me strike that. | ·7· ·stipulations.· Sorry for the technical issue. | | ·8· · · · · · ·If the debtor attempts to not assert his | ·8· · · · The debtor must be physically within the | | ·9· ·Fifth Amendment rights and, instead, answer the | ·9· ·jurisdiction of the court, meaning within | | 10· ·questions, this is a breach of the agreement to | 10· ·100 miles of the court, when the deposition is | | 11· ·conduct his deposition remotely, and his deposition | 11· ·taken.· No one other than the debtor's | | 12· ·will immediately be taken in person.· Both sides are | 12· ·interpreter and his attorney from | | 13· ·clear that deciding to not answer a question by | 13· ·Zeisler & Zeisler may be in the room with the | | 14· ·asserting his Fifth Amendment rights is not an | 14· ·debtor when he is deposed.· The debtor may not | | 15· ·option for the debtor to consider at this time. | 15· ·communicate with anyone other than his counsel | | | | | 16· · · · · · ·The remote deposition is being offered in | 16· ·from Zeisler & Zeisler when the deposition is | | 17· ·good faith because the debtor requested it, not | 17· ·on the record. | | 18· ·because of need or the trustee's acknowledgment that | 18· · · · The debtor's interpreter is not to | | 19· ·a remote deposition of the debtor is appropriate | 19· ·communicate with the debtor while we are on the | | 20· ·here or going forward.· And any attempt to | 20· ·record.· The only interpreter is the official | | 21· ·substantively answer and not assert his Fifth | 21· ·one, Ms. Jingyi Wang.· The debtor's interpreter | | 22· ·Amendment rights is a breach of this agreement. | 22· ·is there to help the debtor communicate with | | 23· · · · · · ·I'm sorry.· We're going to need to go off | 23· ·Zeisler & Zeisler on breaks and to advise | | 24· ·the record.· My computer just crashed.· I apologize.<br>25· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the | 24· ·Zeisler & Zeisler regarding the translation<br>25· ·while the deposition is ongoing.· The debtor's |

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<span id="page-4-0"></span>Page 10 ·1· · · · · · · · · · H. Kwok ·2· ·interpreter is not to speak on the record. ·3· · · · The debtor is to have access to no devices ·4· ·that can send or receive messages while the ·5· ·deposition is on the record.· The debtor is not ·6· ·to send or read messages during the deposition ·7· ·while it is on the record. ·8· · · · Are we -- all counsel, are we all still in ·9· ·agreement as to these stipulated agreements? 10· · · · MR. ROMNEY:· Yes.· That's correct.· The 11· ·only qualification I would say is, to the 12· ·extent I need to say something on the record 13· ·that requires the debtor to understand 14· ·Ms. Wilkinson -- to the extent I need to 15· ·communicate with the debtor, it will be through 16· ·Ms. Wilkinson. 17· · · · MR. LUFT:· Mr. Romney, while we're on the 18· ·record, I'd ask that you use Ms. Wang to speak 19· ·to the debtor.· To extent you need to speak to 20· ·him about privilege, let's go off the record, 21· ·in which case, you can use Ms. Wilkinson 22· ·however you need to, to speak to him. 23· · · · MR. ROMNEY:· Sure.· I think that's 24· ·generally correct.· To the extent that, like in 25· ·a typical setting, where I would say something Page 11 ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok ·2· · · · to a client on the record without taking a ·3· · · · break to determine if a break is necessary, it ·4· · · · may need to be through Ms. Wilkinson, but I'm ·5· · · · not anticipating any issues. ·6· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Fine. ·7· · · · · · ·And Ms. Bergamasco, you remain in ·8· · · · agreement to these terms? ·9· · · · · · ·MS. BERGAMASCO:· Can you repeat that? 10· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Just confirming that your firm 11· · · · remains in agreement to the terms that have 12· · · · been agreed upon that I have just set forth. 13· · · · · · ·MS. BERGAMASCO:· Yes. 14· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Great. 15· ·BY MR. LUFT: 16· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you have been extremely patient. 17· ·Thank you for that. 18· · · · · · ·Mr. Kwok, can I ask you to state your name 19· ·and your residence for the record? 20· · · · A.· ·My Chinese name is Kwok Ho Wan.· My 21· ·address is on the Fifth Avenue in New York.· It's 22· ·the Sherry-Netherlands, but I can't remember the 23· ·exact number.· It's either 768 or 769. 24· · · · Q.· ·And Mr. Kwok, are you in that address 25· ·right now? Page 12 ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok ·2· · · · A.· ·Yes. ·3· · · · Q.· ·Okay.· Mr. Kwok, I know you've been ·4· ·deposed before, but I just want to go over some ·5· ·basic ground rules just so we are on the same page; ·6· ·is that okay? ·7· · · · A.· ·Okay. ·8· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, do you understand that you're ·9· ·testifying under oath today? 10· · · · A.· ·Yes, I understand. 11· · · · Q.· ·And by that, all your -- any testimony you 12· ·offer must be truthful. 13· · · · · · ·Do you understand that? 14· · · · A.· ·Yes, I understand. 15· · · · Q.· ·Is there any reason that you cannot offer 16· ·truthful testimony today? 17· · · · A.· ·No. 18· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, can we have an agreement that if 19· ·any of my questions are not clear to you, you will 20· ·ask me -- you will let me know and ask me to 21· ·clarify? 22· · · · A.· ·Okay.· Thank you very much. 23· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, if you don't tell me that 24· ·something is unclear, could we have an agreement 25· ·that I can assume that you understand my question? Page 13 ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok ·2· · · · A.· ·Okay.· That's fine. ·3· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, is anyone in the room with you ·4· ·today? ·5· · · · A.· ·My attorney and the Interpreter, Una. ·6· · · · Q.· ·Is your attorney Mr. Romney? ·7· · · · A.· ·I only know him by Aaron.· I'm not sure ·8· ·about his other name. ·9· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Mr. Romney, that is you, 10· · · · correct? 11· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Yes, it is me, Avi.· Aaron 12· · · · Romney. 13· ·BY MR. LUFT: 14· · · · Q.· ·And your interpreter is Una Wilkinson, 15· ·correct? 16· · · · A.· ·Yes. 17· · · · Q.· ·Is there anyone else in the room with you 18· ·today? 19· · · · A.· ·No. 20· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, what is the name of your 21· ·daughter? 22· · · · A.· ·Kwok Mei. 23· · · · Q.· ·And what is the name of your son? 24· · · · A.· ·Kwok Qiang. 25· · · · Q.· ·Does he sometimes also go by the name

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| Page 14<br>·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | Page 15<br>·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | |-----------------------------------------------------------|----|-----------------------------------------------------------| | ·2· ·Mileson Kwok? | | ·2· · · · A.· ·Okay. | | ·3· · · · A.· ·Yes. | | ·3· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the Lady May | | ·4· · · · Q.· ·And what is name of your wife? | | ·4· ·was purchased on February 23, 2015, by Hong Kong | | | | | | ·5· · · · A.· ·Yu Chang Chu. | | ·5· ·International Funds Investments Limited, which I | | ·6· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, did you do anything to prepare | | ·6· ·will also refer to as "HK International," you have | | ·7· ·for your deposition today? | | ·7· ·been the beneficial owner of the Lady May, correct? | | ·8· · · · A.· ·No. | | ·8· · · · A.· ·I assert the Fifth. | | ·9· · · · Q.· ·Did you meet with counsel to prepare for | | ·9· · · · Q.· ·At all times since the Lady May was | | 10· ·your deposition today? | | 10· ·purchased on February 23, 2015, by HK International, | | 11· · · · A.· ·No. | | 11· ·you, the debtor, have been the equitable owner of | | 12· · · · Q.· ·Did you review any documents in | | 12· ·the Lady May, correct? | | 13· ·preparation for your deposition today? | | 13· · · · A.· ·I plead the Fifth. | | 14· · · · A.· ·No. | | 14· · · · Q.· ·At all times since the Lady May was | | 15· · · · Q.· ·Did you review anything to refresh your | | 15· ·purchased on February 23, 2015, by HK International, | | 16· ·recollection for your deposition today? | | 16· ·you have controlled the Lady May? | | 17· · · · A.· ·No. | | 17· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 18· · · · Q.· ·At this point, Mr. Kwok, we're going to | | 18· · · · Q.· ·At all times since the Lady May was | | 19· ·shift to the substantive part of your deposition to | | 19· ·purchased on February 23, 2015, by Hong Kong | | 20· ·which I understand it is your intention to plead the | | 20· ·International, you have been the legal owner of the | | 21· ·Fifth. | | 21· ·Lady May? | | 22· · · · · · ·I ask that you just let me finish asking | | 22· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· Ms. Wang, what is the | | 23· ·my question and allow the translator to fully | | 23· · · · question?· Is that the question whether I am? | | 24· ·translate it before you make any such assertion, | | 24· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Yes. | | 25· ·okay? | 25 | | | Page 16 | | Page 17 | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | ·2· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | ·2· ·establishment of HK International, you have | | ·3· · · · Q.· ·Is my statement correct? | | ·3· ·controlled HK International, correct? | | ·4· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | ·4· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | | | | | ·5· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you do not need Mei Guo's | | ·5· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the | | ·6· ·permission to board the Lady May, correct? | | ·6· ·establishment of HK International, you have been its | | ·7· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | ·7· ·legal owner, correct? | | ·8· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you do not need to ask Mei Guo's | | ·8· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | ·9· ·permission to use the Lady May, correct? | | ·9· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the | | 10· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 10· ·establishment of HK International, it has been -- it | | 11· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you do not need to ask Mei Guo's | | 11· ·has been your alter ego, correct? | | 12· ·permission to direct the crew of the Lady May to | | 12· · · · · · ·THE INTERPRETER:· Counsel, could you | | 13· ·navigate the Lady May from location to location, | | 13· · · · please explain "alter ego"? | | 14· ·correct? | | 14· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Just translate the term.· It's | | 15· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 15· · · · a legal term. | | 16· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the | | 16· · · · · · ·THE INTERPRETER:· I've got the legal term. | | 17· ·establishment of Hong Kong International Funds | | 17· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay. | | 18· ·Investment Limited, you have been its beneficial | | 18· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· The Fifth. | | 19· ·owner, correct? | | 19· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | 20· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 20· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you're familiar with an entity | | 21· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the | | 21· ·called "HK International Funds Investment USA | | 22· ·establishment of HK International, you have been its | | 22· ·Limited," or I may refer to it as "HK USA," correct? | | 23· ·equitable owner, correct? | | 23· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 24· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 24· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the | | 25· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, at all times since the | | 25· ·establishment of HK USA, you have been its |

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| Page 38 | Page 39 | |-----------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | ·2· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, the Lady May was sailed from | ·2· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | ·3· ·Florida to the Bahamas in the fall of 2020 because | ·3· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, when you directed the Lady May | | ·4· ·you instructed the crew for it to do so, correct? | ·4· ·to sail to Europe in 2021, you and your daughter, | | ·5· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | ·5· ·Mei Guo, were aware that doing so would violate | | ·6· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you instructed the Lady May to | ·6· ·Ostrager's order and cause you to incur contempt | | ·7· ·be sailed to Europe in 2021, correct? | ·7· ·fees, correct? | | ·8· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | ·8· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Object to the form. | | ·9· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, the reason the Lady May was | ·9· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 10· ·sailed to Europe in 2021 was because you gave | 10· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | 11· ·instructions for that to happen, correct? | 11· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, the Lady May was returned to | | 12· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Object to the form. | 12· ·Connecticut waters in 2022 only because you directed | | | | | 13· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | 13· ·that to happen, correct? | | 14· ·BY MR. LUFT: | 14· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 15· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you gave directions for the | 15· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you're familiar with an | | 16· ·Lady May to be sailed to Europe to keep the Lady May | 16· ·individual named William Je? | | 17· ·out of the hands of your creditors, correct? | 17· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 18· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | 18· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, William Je is a close family | | 19· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, the Lady May remained in Europe | 19· ·friend, correct? | | 20· ·until you authorized it to return to the | 20· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 21· ·United States, correct? | 21· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, Mr. Je is referred to by your | | 22· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | 22· ·daughter as "Uncle William," correct? | | 23· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you're the only person who had | 23· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 24· ·the authority to order the Lady May to return to the | 24· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, Mr. Je acts as an agent, | | 25· ·United States, correct? | 25· ·correct? | | | | | Page 40 | Page 41 | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | ·2· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | ·2· ·control, correct? | | ·3· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, Mr. Je is currently acting as | ·3· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Object to the form. | | ·4· ·your agent in your business dealings, correct? | ·4· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | ·5· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | ·5· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | ·6· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, in April of 2022, Mr. Je -- any | ·6· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, any entities purportedly under | | ·7· ·actions Mr. Je took in relation to the Lady May were | ·7· ·the control of William Je are actually entities | | ·8· ·as your agent, correct? | ·8· ·under your control, correct? | | ·9· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | ·9· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Object to the form. | | 10· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, any actions Mr. Je takes in | 10· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 11· ·connection with business dealings are taken at your | 11· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | 12· ·direction, correct? | 12· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, the loan agreement dated | | 13· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Object to the form. | 13· ·April 19, 2022, between Himalaya International | | 14· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | 14· ·Financial Group Limited as lender and HK USA as | | 15· ·BY MR. LUFT: | 15· ·borrower was arranged at your request, correct? | | 16· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, with regard to any business | 16· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | 17· ·dealings involving you and Mr. Je, Mr. Je is under | 17· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, you control Himalaya | | 18· ·your control, correct? | 18· ·International Financial Group Limited, correct? | | 19· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | 19· · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· I want to speak with my | | 20· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, Mr. Je acts at your direction to | 20· · · · attorney now. | | 21· ·generate funds for you through the use of the | 21· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay. | | 22· ·Himalaya Farms, correct? | 22· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Take five. | | 23· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | 23· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay. | | 24· · · · Q.· ·Mr. Kwok, any assets purportedly under the | 24· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the | | 25· ·control of William Je are actually assets under your | 25· · · · record at 12:17 p.m. |

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| | Page 98 | | Page 99 | |----|-----------------------------------------------------------|----|-----------------------------------------------------------| | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·H. Kwok | | | ·2· · · · into Bravo Luck Limited is the same entity that | | ·2· ·this hearing and were asked the identical questions | | | ·3· · · · purportedly funded the purchase of the Lady May | | ·3· ·that you were asked today, would you give the same | | | ·4· · · · and the Sherry-Netherland apartment.· I think | | ·4· ·answers to them? | | | ·5· · · · it's directly relevant.· I'm happy not to spend | | ·5· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Am I correct that the | | | ·6· · · · a lot of time on it, but I would like an answer | | ·6· · · · question assumes the absence of an objection or | | | ·7· · · · to my question. | | ·7· · · · an objection that was not sustained? | | | ·8· · · · A.· ·The Fifth. | | ·8· · · · · · ·Is that a fair qualification on the | | | ·9· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Mr. Kwok, why don't we take a | | ·9· · · · question? | | | 10· · · · five-minute break.· I may be done.· So let me | | 10· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· My question assumes no waiver | | | 11· · · · just check my notes.· Is that okay? | | 11· · · · of your right to object to any questions that | | | 12· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're going off the | | 12· · · · you objected to today. | | | 13· · · · record at 3:47 p.m. | | 13· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Thank you. | | | 14· · · · · · ·(Recess.) | | 14· · · · · · ·THE INTERPRETER:· The witness said "yes" | | | 15· · · · · · ·THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· We're back on the | | 15· · · · just now.· That didn't get interpreted. | | | 16· · · · record at 3:54 p.m. | | 16· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Okay. | | | 17· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Mr. Kwok, your counsel and I | | 17· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | | 18· · · · have discussed the idea that if the Court is | | 18· · · · Q.· ·Just so we're clear Mr. Kwok, your answer | | | 19· · · · amenable, that in lieu of you giving live | | 19· ·to my question is "yes"? | | | 20· · · · testimony at the PJR hearing, that we can use | | 20· · · · A.· ·Yes. | | | 21· · · · this deposition transcript.· I hope the Court | | 21· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Mr. Kwok, I have no further | | | 22· · · · will agree to that. | | 22· · · · questions for you at this time.· I thank you | | | 23· ·BY MR. LUFT: | | 23· · · · very much for the time you've given us today. | | | 24· · · · Q.· ·But let me just ask, if for whatever | | 24· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· Thank you.· I have no | | | 25· ·reason you were to have to give live testimony at | | 25· · · · questions for the witness. | | | Page 100 | | Page 101 | | | ·1· · · · · · · · · · H. Kwok | ·1 | ·2· · · · · · ·MR. LUFT:· Standing order. | | | ·2· · · · THE WITNESS:· I wanted to take this | | ·3· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· We'll take a copy but no | | | ·3· ·opportunity to also thank you -- say thank you | | ·4· · · · rough. | | | ·4· ·to everybody here today.· I'm sorry that | | ·5· · · · · · ·MS. SONG:· Same thing. | | | ·5· ·because I was feeling uncomfortable, so I | | ·6· · · · · · ·MR. ROMNEY:· We will also ask for a copy | | | ·6· ·wasted quite a bit of everybody's time. | | ·7· · · · of the video as well. | | | ·7· · · · But I want to say thank you for all the | ·8 | | | | ·8· ·professional questions, and I also want to | | ·9· · · · · · ·(Time noted:· 3:59 p.m.) | | | ·9· ·extend my thanks to you, the Interpreters, | 10 | | | | 10· ·including Ms. Wang and Luyi, as well as the | 11 | | | | 11· ·Court Reporter and all of the counsels present | | 12· · · · · · · · · · · ·____________________________ | | | 12· ·today as well as our videographer. | | | | | 13· · · · And I also want to say hello, please, to | | 13· · · · · · · · · · · ·HO WAN KWOK | | | 14· ·pass on my greetings to the trust and Mr. Luc. | 14 | | | | 15· · · · MR. LUFT:· I will definitely pass those | | 15· ·Subscribed and sworn to | | | 16· ·greetings along, Mr. Kwok, and I will echo your | | 16· ·before me this· · ·day | | | 17· ·thanks to the Court Reporter, the videographer | | 17· ·of· · · · · · 2023. | | | 18· ·and the translator, who all did a tremendous | | 18· ·_______________________ | | | 19· ·job today.· Thank you. | 19 | | | | | 20 | | | | 20· · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· This marks the end of | | | | | 21· ·the deposition.· We're going off the record at | 21 | | | | 22· ·3:59 p.m. | 22 | | | | 23· · · · (Deposition continues - Next page) | 23 | | | 24 | | 24 | | | 25 | | 25 | |

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