Guo Wengui / Miles Guo — bankruptcy case · EXHIBIT · ECF #2292-45

METADATA

Defendant
Guo Wengui / Miles Guo / Ho Wan Kwok
Court
CTB
Case No.
22-50073
ECF #
2292
Type
EXHIBIT
Filed
2023-10-26

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Exhibit 45

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2 Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3 10:00 a.m. 6 REMOTE Deposition of MARGARET CONBOY, held VIA ZOOM, before LISA M. MURACO, a Notary Public of the State of New York, Florida, and Massachusetts. MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. September 12, 2023 800.211.DEPO (3376)

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1 2 A P P E A R A N C E S: 3 (REMOTE) 4 5 PAUL HASTINGS 6 Attorneys for Movant and Cross-Respondent 7 Mr. Luc A. Despins, Chapter 11 Trustee for 8 the Estate of Mr. Ho Wan Kwok 9 200 Park Avenue 10 New York NY 10166 11 BY: NICHOLAS BASSETT, ESQ. 12 Nicholasbassett@paulhastings.com 13 AVRAM LUFT, ESQ. 14 Aviluft@paulhastings.com 15 EZRA SUTTON, ESQ. 16 Ezrasutton@paulhastings.com 17 DOUGLASS BARRON, ESQ. 18 Douglassbarron@paulhastings.com 19 LUYI SONG, ESQ. 20 Luyisong@paulhastings.com 21 22 23 24 25 KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 3 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 5 of 96

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1 2 A P P E A R A N C E S: 3 (REMOTE) 4 5 MEISTER SEELIG & FEIN 6 Attorneys for Defendants Greenwich LLC and 7 Hing Chi Ngok 8 125 Park Avenue 9 7th Floor 10 New York, NY 10017 11 BY: CHRISTOPHER MAJOR, ESQ. 12 Cjm@msf-law.com 13 AUSTIN KIM, ESQ. 14 Adk@msf-law.com 15 16 17 WHITMAN BREED ABBOTT & MORGAN 18 Attorneys for the Witness 19 500 West Putnam Avenue 20 Greenwich CT 06830 21 BY: MICHAEL THOMASON, ESQ. 22 Mthomason@wbamct.com 23 24 25 KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 4 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 6 of

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2 IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED 3 by and between the attorneys for the

4 respective parties herein, that filing and 5 sealing be and the same are hereby waived.

6 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED

7 that all objections, except as to the form 8 of the question, shall be reserved to the 9 time of the trial.

10 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED

11 that the within deposition may be sworn to 12 and signed before any officer authorized

13 to administer an oath, with the same

14 force and effect as if signed and sworn 15 to before the Court.

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2 M A R G A R E T C O N B O Y, called as a

3 witness, having been duly sworn by a Notary 4 Public, was examined and testified as follows:

5 EXAMINATION BY

6 MR. BASSETT: 7 Q. Thank you very much. 8 MR. MAJOR:

Nick, just before we get

9 started, can we agree that we will do the

10 usual stipulations, including that

11 objections, except as to the form of the 12 question, are reserved. 13 MR. THOMASON:

That's the

14 Connecticut usual stipulations. 15 MR. BASSETT:

I'm not agreeing to

16 the usual stipulations because I don't know 17 what they are. 18 MR. MAJOR: Let's just set them up. 19 I think the most important one, just for 20 the administration of the deposition and to 21 make sure we can get through it, is that 22 objections, except as to the form of the 23 question, are reserved.

So, you know, I'll

24 just object if I have any objections to the 25 form of the question, and leave it at that.

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1 M. CONBOY 2 So that we're not dealing with all -- you 3 know, a whole slew of objections like 4 hearsay and all of that kind of stuff. 5 Those can be dealt with later. 6 MR. BASSETT: I'm fine with that. I 7 think that's what the rule would provide. 8 MR. MAJOR: Yup. 9 MR. BASSETT: I mean, I don't want 10 to -- I'm not agreeing to quote, unquote, 11 usual stipulations with which I am not 12 familiar. But if we're all agreeing that 13 the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and 14 the Federal Rules of Evidence apply to this 15 case, I have no problem with that. 16 MR. MAJOR: The objections are 17 reserved, so we don't have to make them 18 now. 19 MR. BASSETT: Again, I think -- 20 Chris, I think the rules provide for that, 21 but... 22 MR. MAJOR: Yeah, and then I just 23 want to make a statement on behalf of our 24 client Greenwich Land that we are the 25 maintaining the attorney-client privilege, KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 7

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2 and therefore communications that the

3 witness or her firm had with officers of 4 Greenwich Land LLC are privileged, as well 5 as mental impressions and speculation and 6 anything based on those communications are 7 privileged, including, without limitation, 8 any disclosures that have already been made 9 to the trustee, either in a 2004 exam or in 10 separate communications.

Those were not

11 authorized disclosures of attorney-client 12 privileged communications, and therefore we 13 are asking the witness and her counsel that 14 she not testify to any communications she 15 had with Greenwich Land LLC officers or any 16 mental impressions or speculation the 17 witness may have derived or come to as a 18 result of communications with officers of 19 Greenwich Land LLC. 20 MR. BASSETT:

Well, Chris you've

21 seen the 2004 deposition transcript in this

22 case, correct?

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23 MR. MAJOR: When you say "in this 24 case," I don't know if you are -- assume 25 you are referring to Ms. Conboy's

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1 M. CONBOY deposition transcript? 3 MR. BASSETT: Yes. 4 MR. MAJOR: Yes, it's an exhibit to the complaint. 6 MR. BASSETT: Right. And if what you are saying is that now for the first time you are going to raise privilege over, for example, all the questions that we asked Ms. Conboy about documents involving her communications with Max Krasner and the like, and we are not going to be able to ask about those, then we have a serious problem, and you should have told us about that before the deposition today. 16 MR. MAJOR: Well, we weren't invited to the 2004 exam. This is our first appearance with this witness. And we are asserting the attorney-client privilege to the extent she's going to testify about communications she had with officers. And I don't know -- 23 (Multiple speakers.) 24 MR. BASSETT: Well -- Chris, you have -- suffice it to say you have long ago KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 11 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023

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2 waived any argument that information

3 contained in our complaint and attached in 4 the deposition transcript filed publicly is 5 privileged information.

If you felt that

6 way, you should have said something months 7 ago.

So I'm not going to -- I'm not even

8 going to entertain that argument.

But why

9 don't we -- why don't we start and we will 10 see where we go.

If we get to a point

11 where you're not letting me conduct this 12 deposition in the way I need to conduct it, 13 we're going to have a take a break and 14 we're going to have figure this out. 15 MR. MAJOR: Okay.

It's not an

16 argument for you to entertain.

It's

17 Greenwich Land owns the privilege. 18 MR. BASSETT:

And you've waived it,

19 Chris. 20 MR. MAJOR: No. No.

We have not

21 participated in that. 22 MR. BASSETT: All right.

Let's

23 just -- all right, let's -- let's just go 24 and see how it goes. 25 MR. MAJOR:

And I don't know what

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1 M. CONBOY 2 you or other representatives of the trustee 3 said to Whitman Breed to induce those 4 communications, but, you know, the 5 privilege is owned by Greenwich Land LLC. 6 It's not the trustee's call. And it's not 7 something for you to entertain. 8 MR. BASSETT: All right. Well, I'm 9 not agreeing with any of that, but, like I 10 said, let's continue. 11 BY MR. BASSETT: 12 Q. All right. Ms. Conboy, sorry for 13 that detour. 14 A. No. 15 Q. You and I have not had the pleasure 16 of meeting before but, again, I'm Nick Bassett 17 with Paul Hastings. We are counsel to the 18 Chapter 11 trustee in Ho Wan Kwok's bankruptcy 19 case. 20 A. Nice to meet you. 21 Q. Ms. Conboy, I note, A, you're a 22 lawyer; and B, you've been deposed before, so I 23 won't -- I won't bother going over kind of the 24 rules of the road here. 25 The one thing I'll mention at the KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 11 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 13 of 96

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2 outset is that I know you do have other 3 obligations this afternoon.

We committed to

4 get you out of here, I think, in no more than 5 four hours, and I'm confident we will be able 6 to do that, and to help be as expeditious as 7 possible, I do not plan to take a lunch break, 8 but, obviously, if you need a break, if you 9 want a lunch break, if you want -- you know, 10 break at any time, feel free to let me know. 11 And as long as you answer any pending question, 12 I'll be happy to accommodate. 13 Is that okay? 14 A. That's fine. Thank you. 15 Q. All right. You are welcome.

16 Ms. Conboy, where are you located at

17 the moment?

Is that your law office in the

18 Connecticut? 19 A. Yes, Greenwich, Connecticut. 20 Q.

And that's your counsel, a colleague 21 of yours at the firm who's with you,

22 Mr. Thomason? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Okay.

25 Ms. Conboy, without revealing the

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substance of any communications with your counsel, can you just describe for me what you did to prepare for today's deposition? A.

I just reviewed the -- my prior

transcript and that affidavit, and that was it. Q.

When you say "that affidavit" what

are you referring to? A.

The affidavit that was -- the

affidavit that was drafted, I think, by your office or Chris Major's office. Q. Did you review any other documents? A. No. Q. Okay. And where do you currently reside? Ms. Conboy, are you a resident of Connecticut? A. In Greenwich, yes. Q.

And you are employed at Whitman

Breed Abbott & Morgan LLC, that's the full name? A. Yes. Q. What is your title? A. I'm a real estate attorney.

I'm a partner --

Q. Okay.

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2 A. -- at the firm.

3 Q. And you said you practice real

4 estate law. 5 Is that a accurate description? 6 A. Yes.

7 Q. How long have you been practicing

8 real estate law? 9 A. About 30 years. 10 Q. How long at Whitman Breed? 11 A. 30 years. 12 Q. Congratulations. 13 A. Thanks. 14 Q. And how long as a partner there?

15 A. I don't know, 15, 20 years,

16 somewhere around there. 17 Q. Okay.

18 So you already mentioned it, but you

19 recall being deposed previously by my colleague 20 Mr. Luft in February of this year, right? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. So I'm going to have my colleague 23 introduce that deposition transcript as an 24 exhibit. 25 MR. BASSETT:

I think that's our

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2 Tab 1, Ezra. 3 MR. SUTTON:

I just shared it in the

4 chat. I'll share my screen shortly. 5 MR. BASSETT:

I would like the court

6 reporter to please mark this as Conboy 7 Exhibit 1.

8 (Conboy Exhibit 1, Conboy Deposition

9 Transcript from February 21, 2023, marked

10 for identification.)

11 BY MR. BASSETT: 12 Q. Ms. Conboy, I see this on my screen. 13 I trust you can see it on yours as well? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q.

And then we also put it in the chat,

16 which will allow you to download the document 17 yourself so that you can feel free to navigate 18 to any page of it that you would like. 19 A. Okay. 20 Q.

Once you're comfortable, my question

21 is just whether you can confirm that this is, 22 in fact, as far as you can tell, a copy of the 23 transcript of your February deposition in this 24 matter? 25 A. It looks like a copy, yup, yes.

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1 M. CONBOY 2 Q. Okay. 3 I just wanted to mark that. We'll 4 come back to it later. 5 Ms. Conboy, are you familiar, 6 generally, with Ho Wan Kwok, an individual by 7 that name? 8 A. Not -- no. 9 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 10 BY MR. BASSETT: 11 Q. You've heard of an individual named 12 Ho Wan Kwok, correct? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. And what names? Do you know him by 15 any other names, based on your past 16 professional experience? 17 A. I've never met him and I've never 18 talked to him. So the only name I heard was 19 Miles Kwok. 20 Q. Okay. 21 And you understand that Miles Kwok 22 is the same person as Ho Wan Kwok, who is a 23 debtor in this case? 24 A. I have no personal knowledge of 25 that, but... KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 16 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 18 of 96

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2 Q. Okay.

3 But you don't have any reason to

4 believe that the Miles Kwok you know from your 5 professional experience is not the same Miles 6 Kwok that is the debtor in this case? 7 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 8 BY MR. BASSETT: 9 Q. You can answer the question. 10 A. Can you say that again?

I didn't --

11 Q.

Do you have any reason to believe

12 that the Miles Kwok who you know from your 13 professional experience is not the same 14 personal as Ho Wan Kwok who is the debtor in 15 this Chapter 11 case? 16 A. No. 17 MR. MAJOR: Objection. Form. 18 A. No, I don't. 19 Q. Okay.

20 So if I refer to -- I'll try to use

21 Mr. Kwok today to refer to Miles Kwok. 22 Is that okay with you? 23 A. Yup, yes. 24 Q. Okay. 25 MR. MAJOR:

I would like the first

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2 exhibit to be marked highly confidential. 3 Contrary to counsel's statement it was not 4 publicly filed.

It was filed under seal, 5 and we maintain that it contains

6 disclosures of privileged information.

I

7 would like it marked highly confidential. 8 MR. BASSETT: Okay.

I thought it

9 was publicly available, but I will have to 10 confirm.

If you are telling me it wasn't,

11 then I'll check that. 12 BY MR. BASSETT: 13 Q.

Ms. Conboy, are you familiar with an

14 entity called Greenwich Land LLC? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q.

Is this entity -- was this entity a

17 client of Whitman Breed's? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q.

Were you involved in that

20 representation? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. What was your role? 23 A.

I was the real estate attorney for

24 that LLC. 25 Q. Okay.

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2 All right.

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And did you also represent an entity

called Hudson Diamond New York LLC?

When I say

you, I mean your law firm. A. Yes. MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. BY MR. BASSETT:

25 Q.

I would like my colleague to put

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2 Tab 2 on the screen, please.

3 (Conboy Exhibit 2, marked for 5 identification.)

6 MR. BASSETT:

And I would like the

7 court reporter to please mark this document 8 as Exhibit 2, Conboy Exhibit 2. 9 BY MR. BASSETT: 10 Q.

Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this

11 document? 12 A.

14 Q. Okay. 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Okay. 25 Do you see that?

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2 A. Mh-hm. 3 Q.

7 A. Yes. Yes. 8 Q. Okay. 13 A. Yes. 14 Q.

Who was your main point of contact 15 on the client's side for your firm's

16 representation of these entities? 17 A. It was Max Krasner. 18 Q. Okay.

19 In the course of this -- of these

20 engagements of these entities, did you ever 21 speak at any time to Mr. Kwok's wife? 22 A. No. 23 Q.

At the time of your earlier

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2 A. No. 3 Q.

Have you ever spoken to Mr. Kwok's

4 son? 5 A. No. 6 Q.

Have you ever spoken to Mr. Kwok's

7 daughter? 8 A. No. 9 Q.

Ms. Conboy, did you represent

10 Greenwich Land and Golden Spring in connection 11 with the purchase of residential property 12 located at 33 Ferncliff Road in Connecticut? 13 MR. MAJOR: Objection. 14 A. Yes. 15 MR. BASSETT:

I would like my

16 colleague to put Tab 3 to the chat, please.

17 (Conboy Exhibit 3,

19 WBAM_000035, marked for identification.) 20 MR. BASSETT:

I would like the court

21 reporter to please mark this as Conboy 22 Exhibit 3. 23 BY MR. BASSETT: 24 Q.

Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this

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2 A. Yes, I do. 3 Q. And I should have done this before. 4 I'll do it now, but just for the record,

7 And at the bottom right-hand corner,

8 I believe it starts with the Bates Label 9 WBAM_000035. 13 A. 14 Q.

20 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 21 A. 22 Q.

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4 A. Yes, I did. 5 Q. Okay.

6 And do you recall approximately the

7 date of the -- of the initial purchase of the 8 property and then -- well, I'll start with 9 that.

10 Do you recall the date of the 11 initial purchase of the property,

12 approximately? 13 A. I don't remember.

Maybe 2020,

14 somewhere around there.

I don't remember the

15 dates. 16 Q. Okay. 17 We can look at documents later.

18 And do you recall, off the top of

19 your head, the approximate date of the sale? 20 A. Probably 2022. 21 Q. Okay. 22 A. But again, I'm not positive. 23 Q. No problem.

We can look at

24 documents there as well.

25 So other than -- setting the

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2 Ferncliff property to one side, which we just 3 established there was a purchase of that 4 property and then a sale of it, did you also 5 represent the same entities that we've been 6 talking about, Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, 7 and Hudson Diamond, in connection with 8 potential real property purchases that did not 9 close? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q.

Do you recall which properties there

12 were that you looked at on their behalf? 13 A.

There was --

14 MR. MAJOR: Objection. Form. 15 A. There was a Clapboard Ridge.

There

16 was one in Stamford, Chateau Ridge I believe in 17 Greenwich.

Those are pretty much about three

18 or four -- maybe four that we did. 19 Q. Okay. 20 So -- that's fine.

110 Clapboard

21 Ridge Road, does that sound right as one of the 22 properties? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q.

And then how about 32 Chateau Ridge

25 Road in Greenwich?

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2 A. Yes. 3 Q.

On that one, if you could please

4 turn to your deposition transcript which is at 5 Tab 1, and I want to take you to page 35 of 6 that. 7 MR. MAJOR:

I just want to note for

8 the record that, as we've insisted, that

9 the Exhibit 1 be marked highly

10 confidential.

Any portions of the

11 transcript referring to that document 12 should also be marked highly confidential. 13 MR. BASSETT: Okay.

Well,

14 obviously, that's fine under the protective 15 order, and we will reserve all of the 16 rights that we have under the protective 17 order in that regard, but that's fine.

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Q.

Do you recall 140 Wallacks Drive in

Stamford as another property about which there

was -- there were discussions of a potential

purchase?

A. Yes.

Q.

How about 66 Sherwood Road in

Greenwich?

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2 discussing as 11 Hurlingham Drive in Greenwich? 3 A. I don't really remember as much.

I

4 don't remember it. 5 Q. Okay.

6 I think we might see a document

7 later that references that property.

8 How about 602 Indian Field Road in

9 Greenwich? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q.

So do you -- we talked about

12 properties with respect to which you provided 13 advice under the engagement that we've been 14 talking about.

15 Do you also recall a transaction

16 involving a property at 373 Taconic Road where 17 you did not represent Greenwich Land, Golden 18 Spring, or Hudson Diamond? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q.

What was your involvement in that

21 transaction? 22 A. I was representing the seller. 23 Q. Okay.

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5 MR. BASSETT: I would like my 6 colleague to, please, put Tab 4 into the 7 chat. 8 (Conboy Exhibit 4, October 3rd, 9 2019, E-mail Bates labeled WBAM\_010076, 10 marked for identification.) 11 MR. BASSETT: And this document will 12 be marked as -- I would like it to be 13 marked as Conboy Exhibit 4. And for the 14 record, this is an October 3rd, 2019, 15 e-mail with the Bates label in the bottom 16 right-hand corner WBAM\_010076. 17 BY MR. BASSETT: 18 Q. Ms. Conboy, these documents that 19 we've been seeing that have a Bates label 20 beginning with WBAM in the lower right-hand 21 corner, do you understand that these are 22 documents Whitman Breed produced from its files 23 to the trustee? 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. And these documents that were Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 34 of 96

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2 produced, are these documents that the firm 3 kept in its ordinary course of business? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. Do you recall -- well, strike that.

6 Did you write the e-mail that

7 appears here in Conboy Exhibit 4? 8 A. Yes. 9 Q. Who is Kevin Walsh? 10 A. He's our managing partner.

He's a

11 partner of mine. 12 Q.

And you say -- in the first sentence

13 of the e-mail -- Kevin, my client, the Chinese 14 billionaire, may purchase 602 Indian Field 15 which is the 11-acre vacant parcel at the end 16 of Meade's Point. 17 Do you see that? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q.

Who is the Chinese billionaire to

20 whom you are referring to in this e-mail? 21 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 22 A.

That was how Miles Kwok was referred

23 to in -- when you do a Google search. 24 Q. Okay.

25 So when you wrote this e-mail and

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2 you used the words "the Chinese billionaire," 3 that was a reference to Miles Kwok? 4 A. Yes. Through Google. 5 MR. THOMASON: Yes-or-no question. 6 BY MR. BASSETT: 7 Q.

And then you say the -- at the end

8 of that sentence you say:

The seller accepted

9 his offer of \$35 million. 10 Do you see that? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q.

And the word "his" there again is a

13 reference to the Chinese billionaire, Miles 14 Kwok? 15 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 16 A. Yes. 17 Q.

In the next sentence you say -- of

18 this e-mail, you say:

I do not know if this

19 will really go through.

He is meeting with

20 architects, engineers, et cetera.

21 I want to focus on the word "he"

22 there.

He is meeting with architects,

23 engineers, et cetera.

The "he," again, is a

24 reference to the Chinese billionaire, Mr. Kwok, 25 right?

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2 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 3 A. Yes. 4 Q.

And then in the last sentence of

5 this e-mail it says:

Apparently, the current

6 owner has approval to build two house.

I'm not

7 sure if my client will just build one house or 8 two. My client has had me hold off on ordering 9 searchs until he has an idea of what is 10 involved in building on the parcel.

11 Again, consistent with the rest of

12 this e-mail, the references to "my client" when 13 you wrote this e-mail were to the Chinese 14 billionaire Miles Kwok, right? 15 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 16 A. Yes. 17 Q.

The work that you were performing

18 with respect to this potential property 19 purchase, this is all work under the umbrella 20 of the engagements that we talked about 21 previously, right, the Greenwich Land, Hudson 22 Diamond, and Golden Spring engagement? 23 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. Okay.

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1 M. CONBOY 2 MR. BASSETT: Can my colleague, 3 please, put Tab 5 into the chat. 4 (Conboy Exhibit 5, January 22, 2019, 5 E-mail Bates labeled WBAM\_0002663, marked 6 for identification.) 7 MR. BASSETT: And this one will be 8 marked as Conboy Exhibit 5; is that 9 correct? Thanks. Sorry. 10 BY MR. BASSETT: 11 Q. So for the record the document being 12 mark as Conboy Exhibit 5, is a January 22, 13 2019, e-mail with the Bates label at the bottom 14 right-hand corner of the first page 15 WBAM\_0002663. 16 Ms. Conboy, if you look at the 17 e-mail nearest the bottom of this page at 18 2:58 p.m., begins: Hi Kristi. 19 Is that an e-mail that you wrote? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. You say: Hi Kristi, can you order a 22 full title and municipal search for 140 23 Wallacks Drive, Caritas Island, Stamford? 24 Do you see that? 25 A. Yes. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 36 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 38 of 96

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1 M. CONBOY 2 MR. THOMASON: Can you zoom in just 3 a little bit. 4 THE WITNESS: Yes, it needs to be. 5 MR. BASSETT: Sure. 6 MR. THOMASON: Perfect. 7 BY MR. BASSETT: 8 Q. So you were asking a colleague here 9 to perform a title and municipal search; is 10 that right, for a potential property to be 11 acquired? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. If you go up to the top e-mail in 14 the chain, you say: Hi Bob. 15 Who is Bob? 16 A. Our title searcher. 17 Q. Okay. 18 You said: Hi Bob, I would like you 19 to do the searches because this is a high-end 20 property on the water. The Chinese billionaire 21 has accepted an offer. Thanks. 22 Do you see that? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. And to whom is the Chinese 25 billionaire a reference? KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 37 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 39 of 96

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2 Emile. I don't remember him. 3 Q.

In his e-mail to Barbara Vogt he

4 says:

Could you please ask your clients to

5 agree to these terms because Miles is ready to 6 sign the contract this afternoon as long as his 7 attorney receives the acceptable terms for due 8 diligence. 9 Do you see that? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. And then after that it says:

Miles

12 does not want the extension.

His lawyer is

13 just protecting him. 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. All right.

Now, if you scroll up to

16 the first page, you were eventually copied on 17 this e-mail. 18 Do you see that? 19 A. No, I don't see. 20 Q. Go to the top. 21 A. Oh, yup. I see up top. 22 Q.

You having been copied on this

23 e-mail and you having represented Golden 24 Spring, Hudson Diamond, and Greenwich Land, can 25 you tell me what's your recollection of why you

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2 would have been copied on this e-mail? 3 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.

4 (Multiple speakers.)

5 MR. MAJOR: Calls for speculation. 6 BY MR. BASSETT: 7 Q. I'm sorry? 8 A. I didn't write this -- I don't know. 9 I don't know why I'm copied on it. 10 Q. Okay.

11 Well, if you scroll back down to the

12 e-mail we looked at before from Mr. deNeree, to 13 the other individual who you said you 14 understood was a broker? 15 A. Mh-hm. 16 Q. Mr. deNeree is saying to Ms. Vogt: 17 Could you please ask your clients to agree to 18 these terms because Miles is ready to sign the 19 contract this afternoon as long as his attorney 20 receives acceptable terms for due diligence. 21 Do you see that? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. Okay.

24 Does it stand to reason that if

25 Ms. Vogt was representing the seller in this

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1 M. CONBOY 2 that -- if this is Wallacks Road, then I 3 remember working on it. 4 Q. Okay. 5 If you go back to the e-mail from 6 Mr. deNeree, if you were representing the buyer 7 in this potential transaction, then the 8 reference to the buyer's attorney would be you; 9 would it not? 10 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 11 A. Yes, yes. The buyer's -- 12 Q. And when it says: Miles does not 13 want the extension. His lawyer is just 14 protecting him. 15 His lawyer would be a reference to 16 you; would it not? 17 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 18 A. I didn't write the e-mail, so -- but 19 it sounds like it would -- I don't, you know, I 20 didn't -- I don't know what was in the -- in 21 his -- what he was thinking, but... 22 Q. Are you aware of -- are you aware of 23 Mr. Kwok having had another lawyer represent 24 him in connection with Wallacks Road? 25 A. I don't know. I don't know. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 42 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 44 of 96

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2 Q.

You don't -- you are not aware,

3 correct? 4 A. I'm not aware, no, no. 5 MR. BASSETT:

If I could, please,

6 have my colleague put Tab 7 on the screen.

7 (Conboy Exhibit 7, July 12, 2019,

8 E-mail Chain Bates Labeled WBAM_003873,

9 marked for identification.)

10 MR. BASSETT:

This document, which I

11 will ask to be marked as Conboy Exhibit 7, 12 is an e-mail chain beginning with the 13 e-mail, the first page dated July 12, 2019,

14 and the Bates label in the bottom

15 right-hand corner WBAM_00387. 16 Do you see that? 17 A. Yes. 18 MR. THOMASON: 3873. 19 MR. BASSETT: 3873. Correct. 20 BY MR. BASSETT: 21 Q.

And then if you would, please, go to

22 the first e-mail of the chain on 3875. 23 MR. BASSETT:

There's a lot of

24 background noise.

I'm not sure where

25 that's coming from.

I think it was

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1 M. CONBOY 2 Chris's. 3 BY MR. BASSETT: 4 Q. If you look at that e-mail, there 5 are two individuals, an e-mail from a Louise 6 Camuto to a Mary Muffin E. Dowdle. 7 Do you see that? 8 A. Yes. 9 Q. Do you understand Ms. Dowdle and 10 Ms. Camuto to be real estate brokers? 11 A. Ms. Dowdle was a real estate broker. 12 I don't know who Ms. Camuto is. So I don't 13 know about her. 14 Q. Do you understand Ms. Dowdle was a 15 broker working for Mr. Kwok? 16 A. Yes. Or -- yes. 17 Q. And this is about a property on chat 18 toe ridge property we had mentioned earlier? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. This e-mail we are looking by 21 Ms. Camuto is actually addressed to Mr. Kwok 22 and in the first paragraph it says: Dear 23 Miles, thank you for getting back to me. I 24 look forward to concluding and having you move 25 into this amazing place which we love so much KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 44 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 46 of 96

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1 M. CONBOY and you seem to love it as much as we do. 3 Do you see that? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. In the second paragraph it says: You have asked that I leave the urns on stands in the living room, the great room. Knowing how much you love them and in the spirit of cooperation, I would like you to have these. And then it says: In return, if you would allow me to keep the set of blue chairs, which have always been mine so I can keep the set of four together. 14 Do you see that? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. Okay. 17 And then in the next paragraph which I will just paraphrase it talks about she's saying to Miles that he has asked for two cabinets or armoires. And then in the paragraph after that -- in the final paragraph it talks about two men who work on the estate, mentions their salaries. And then it concludes by saying: Please let me know if you are interested in assuming these salaries to your KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 45 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 47 of 96

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2 payroll as well. 3 Do you see that? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q.

And then if we go up to the next

6 e-mail above this, Max Krasner whom you said 7 was your point of contact on the engagement, 8 forwards this to a Yvette Wang and a Karin 9 Maistrello.

10 And then if you go up, this is

11 Yvette Wang writing back to the initial author 12 of the first e-mail. And it says:

Dear

13 Louise, thank you for getting back to Miles. 14 Kindly forgive him as he does better with oral 15 English than written. 16 Do you see that? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. And then it also says:

Miles said

19 he exactly shares the same love as you to this 20 fabulous home.

He would even hope you could

21 come back in the future, share the beautiful 22 stories about this place with him.

I believe

23 there are a lot. 24 Do you see that? 25 A. Yes.

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2 Q. And then it says:

Miles said he

3 appreciates you agree to leave the urns.

He

4 does love them very much.

In the same spirit

5 of cooperation he would like you to keep the 6 set of four blue chairs, plus he even prefers 7 you to choose the cabinet which you like most. 8 Do you see that? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q.

And then the next paragraph starts

11 with:

Golden Spring New York Limited, as a

12 family office based in Manhattan, we take care 13 of Miles and his family's businesses, projects, 14 and assets and in the U.S.

GSNY directly will

15 directly employ/contract Peter and James with 16 the salary as you advised. 17 And then it goes on. 18 Do you see that? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q.

And then, finally, on the last

21 paragraph it says:

On behalf of Miles, thank

22 you again for having this beautiful home to 23 him. All the best. 24 Do you see that? 25 A. Yes.

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2 Q.

And if you go to the e-mail above

3 that, this is another e-mail back to Yvette 4 Wang. 5 MR. BASSETT:

My colleague can

6 scroll up. 7 BY MR. BASSETT: 8 Q.

And, again, this is from Louise

9 Camuto to Yvette Wang, copying Max Krasner and 10 Karin Maistrello.

11 If you scroll down, it says, among

12 other things:

I'm so glad Miles will enjoy the

13 fabulous urns that are, as you know, quite rare 14 and valuable. They make the room. 15 Do you see that? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q.

And then in the last paragraph it

18 says:

Thank you and Miles, and please keep the

19 communication flowing.

I'll be happy to come

20 visit him one day when he's all settled in. 21 Do you see that? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q.

Now, this e-mail, as we already

24 established, contains the Bates stamp from your 25 law firm on it.

So this means it came from

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2 and Hudson Diamond engagement that we talked 3 about? 4 A. Yes. 5 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 6 MR. BASSETT:

If I can to -- or have

7 my colleague, please, put up the e-mail 8 that's -- sorry -- the document that's 9 Tab 8.

10 (Conboy Exhibit 8, December 15,

11 2020, E-mail Bates Stamped WBAM_0038336,

12 marked for identification.)

13 MR. BASSETT:

I will have this

14 document marked as Conboy Exhibit 8. 15 BY MR. BASSETT: 16 Q.

And for the record, it's another

17 e-mail chain, top e-mail in the chain, dated 18 December 15, 2020, Bates stamped at the lower

19 right-hand corner of the first page

20 WBAM_0038336.

21 Ms. Conboy, take your time to look

22 at this as necessary, but do you -- as you can 23 see, you're copied on the first e-mail in this 24 chain as well as the second e-mail and, I 25 think, others, if you scroll down.

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2 Do you recall what property or

3 properties this was in reference to?

The

4 subject line is:

MK properties to Hudson

5 Diamond New York LLC? 6 A. I don't know which property that is. 7 MR. BASSETT:

Go to the next page,

8 please. Next page, please. Okay. 9 BY MR. BASSETT: 10 Q.

The -- the e-mail chain does not

11 appear to list the name of the property, but 12 this is an e-mail exchange between you and Max 13 Krasner, at least, at the top; is that correct, 14 Ms. Conboy? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q.

And so, therefore, to the best of

17 your recollection, would this be one of the 18 properties that we mentioned on which you 19 provided advice under the Greenwich Land, 20 Golden Spring, and Hudson Diamond engagement 21 using Max Krasner as your point of contact? 22 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 23 A. It's from Max to me.

And he's

24 telling us to hold off the -- it had to be 25 workup of properties.

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2 Q.

What he's saying specifically to you

3 is:

I just spoke with Miles, and he advised

4 the team he will not move forward on this 5 property. 6 Do you see that? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q.

And you understood that Miles is

9 reference to Miles Kwok? 10 A. Yes. 11 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 12 BY MR. BASSETT: 13 Q.

And the "he advised" "he" there,

14 that would also be a reference to Miles Kwok? 15 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 16 A.

That's what he wrote -- that's what

17 Max Krasner wrote, so. 18 Q. Okay.

19 So we've -- Ms. Conboy, we've seen

20 quite a few e-mails today, five or six or so.

21 Do you recall seeing these same

22 e-mails in your February deposition? 23 A. Yes.

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24 MR. BASSETT:

I would like my

25 colleague to, please, put our Tab 10, which

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2 is going to be Exhibit 9 into the chat.

3 (Conboy Exhibit 9, Bates Labeled WBAM_00002, 5 marked for identification.)

6 MR. BASSETT:

This one is a little

7 smaller.

We might need to scroll in a 8 little bit more, and then we can just

9 direct ourselves to particular lines. 10 That's good. Maybe one out. 19 BY MR. BASSETT: 20 Q.

Ms. Conboy, do you recognize this

21 document? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. Okay. 24 A. Yes. 25 Q.

Could you tell me what it is,
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2 A.

16 MR. THOMASON:

You know, I have this

17 in hard copy. Can I show it to her? 18 A. Yes. 19 MR. BASSETT: Yeah, of course.

20 (Document review.)

21 MR. BASSETT:

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2 Do you see that. 3 A. Yup, okay so -- yeah. 4 Q.

9 Do you see that? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q.

15 A. Yup. 16 Q.

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2 A. Mm-hm. 3 Q.

6 A. Yes. 7 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 8 BY MR. BASSETT: 9 Q. Okay.

10 And now I want to go to the next

11 page of this document.

12 By the way, Ms. Conboy, does -- what

13 we just looked at, does that refresh your 14 recollection that the initial purchase of the 15 33 Ferncliff Road property was in August of 16 2019? 17 A. Yes. 18 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 19 A.

No, actually it was -- let me

20 see the dates.

21 (Document review.)

22 A. No.

The closing was -- it wasn't

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7 Q. Okay. 12 A. Yes. 13 Q.

20 A. Yes.

22 Q. All right.

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5 Do you see that? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q.

17 Do you see that?

19 A. Yes. Q.

21 A. I have no idea. 22 Q.

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2 Q. Okay. 9 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 10 BY MR. BASSETT: 11 Q. I didn't hear your answer.

I'm

12 sorry. 13 A. I don't know. 14 Q. How about did the debtor's son, to 15 your knowledge, have any involvement with that 16 transaction? 17 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 18 A. I don't -- I don't know.

19 Q. You said, again, Mr. Krasner was

20 your point of contact, right? 21 A. Correct. 22 Q. Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you that 23 he needed to get approval from Mr. Kwok's wife 24 prior to making any decisions with respect to 25 properties?

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2 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.

And

3 instruct the witness not to answer on the 4 grounds of privilege, to the extent it 5 concerned an instruction during the time 6 that the witness was representing Greenwich 7 Land LLC. 8 MR. BASSETT:

Chris, I'm going to 9 tell you again, you've waived any

10 privilege.

I don't agree that you have the

11 privilege.

12 And this question in any event, is

13 not -- on its face, not calling for any 14 attorney-client privileged communications. 15 It's a yes-or-no question. 16 MR. MAJOR:

Mr. Krasner was an

17 officer of Greenwich Land LLC.

You've just

18 asked a question about a conversation he 19 had with a lawyer representing Greenwich 20 Land LLC.

It's a privileged communication,

21 and we're instructing the witness not to 22 answer on those grounds.

Your argument for

23 waiver is wrong. 24 We have never waived the privilege. 25 In fact, we've asserted the privilege.

We

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2 were not at the prior deposition.

We were

3 not given notice or an invitation to the 4 prior deposition.

5 And Greenwich Land LLC has never

6 authorized the Whitman Breed firm to waive 7 the privilege.

It's the client's

8 privilege.

It's not the lawyer's

9 privilege.

And it certainly isn't your

10 privilege as the questioning lawyer.

And

11 it doesn't matter if there was a prior

12 disclosure that was done without the

13 knowledge and consent of the client. 14 MR. BASSETT: All right.

I disagree

15 with everything you just said.

You have

16 had months of opportunity to raise any 17 issue with respect to the allegations in 18 our complaint which referred to Ms. 19 Conboy's testimony, and with respect to the 20 testimony itself.

21 I also do not -- did -- the fact

22 that I am asking about her conversations 23 with an officer of the company does not 24 render the answer at all privileged.

I'm

25 not asking for her to reveal any advice

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2 that she gave or any advice that was sought 3 from her.

4 That's the definition of what it

5 requires for a communication to be cloaked 6 in the attorney-client privilege.

7 The question that I asked, which I

8 can have the court reporter read back, 9 absolutely did not call for her to divulge 10 any privileged communication. 11 BY MR. BASSETT: 12 Q.

Ms. Conboy, did Mr. Krasner -- I'm

13 not asking for advice you gave to Mr. Krasner 14 or for anything Mr. Krasner asked you in terms 15 of legal advice.

All I'm asking is if

16 Mr. Krasner told you, from a business 17 perspective, that he needed to get approval 18 from Mr. Kwok's wife prior to making decisions 19 with respect to properties? 20 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.

And,

21 again, instruct the witness not to answer.

22 The --

23 MR. BASSETT:

How is that

24 privileged? 25 MR. MAJOR:

Because you are asking

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1 M. CONBOY 2 about the -- 3 MR. BASSETT: Where's the request 4 for legal advice, Chris? 5 MR. MAJOR: Let's have the question 6 read back, please, or if you want to re-ask 7 it, whatever is faster. 8 BY MR. BASSETT: 9 Q. Did Mr. Krasner ever tell you, from 10 a business perspective, that he needed to get 11 approval from Mr. Kwok's wife prior to making 12 any decisions with respect to properties? 13 MR. MAJOR: Let me just have a quick 14 minute to think this over. I'll be back in 15 a minute. Hold on. 16 MR. BASSETT: Okay. 17 MR. THOMASON: We're going to take a 18 break. That okay, Nick? 19 MR. BASSETT: Sure. 20 (Recess is taken.) 21 MR. MAJOR: Thank you very much 22 everyone for allowing that break. I want 23 to make sure we're being as judicious as 24 possible with this today, so that's why I 25 wanted to just take a minute to consider it KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 71 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 73 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023

1 M. CONBOY and confer with a colleague. 3 And I do think that the question calls for privileged communication. I think the privilege is broader than Mr. Bassett has outlined. It's for communications between lawyer and client relating to the provision of legal advice or the provision of legal services. 10 I think in the context of a real estate transaction, the role that Ms. Conboy played is uniquely legal in nature. The, you know, strictly business discussions, those are happening with the broker. A real estate lawyer involved in a closing on a residential loan like this -- residential sale like this is brought in at the time that legal services are needed, for example, preparation or a contract and so forth. 21 And so I think that the conversations that Ms. Conboy had with the -- an officer of Greenwich Land LLC is privileged, and therefore we're going to assert the privilege to this question. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 72

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2 MR. BASSETT:

So thanks for that,

3 Chris.

I don't think that is an accurate 4 articulation of the law or a correct

5 application of it.

The question that I

6 asked was simply a question about who at 7 the client would approve transactions or 8 decisions in connection with transactions. 9 That is not privileged.

10 Moreover throughout the entire 11 deposition today, I have been asking

12 Ms. Conboy about her communications with

13 Mr. Krasner, including showing those

14 communications.

Some of those 15 communications have indicated where

16 Mr. Krasner was telling her that Mr. Kwok 17 was deciding not to purchase a property, 18 for example.

19 That is absolutely no different than

20 what I'm now asking.

There are already --

21 there's already testimony in the record 22 about Mr. Kwok making decisions on behalf 23 of the client.

All I'm asking is if she

24 ever was told that, instead of Mr. Kwok, 25 his wife needed to make decisions.

So

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2 that's fair game.

And it's -- the door has

3 been opened.

Any privilege you may have

4 had has been waived throughout the day 5 today.

6 If you are going to stand on that

7 objection, we'll reserve our rights, take 8 it up with the Court, if necessary. 9 MR. MAJOR:

We are going to stand on

10 the objection.

And just to be clear, you

11 know, it's a disingenuous argument to try

12 to claim that there's been --

13 MR. BASSETT:

Hey Avi, put your

14 phone on mute. Sorry. 15 MR. MAJOR:

-- that there's been a

16 waiver today at the deposition because we 17 didn't object to you asking questions about 18 Mr. Kwok. We do not represent Mr. Kwok. 19 Greenwich Land did not own or transact for

20 the properties that you are asking

21 questions about.

Here, you are talking

22 about a property that Greenwich Land LLC 23 was the owner of.

Max Krasner, as you

24 know, is an officer of Greenwich Land, and 25 he was having communications with Greenwich

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2 Land's lawyer about a transaction involving 3 a property owned by Greenwich Land, and 4 that's why we appropriately objected. 5 MR. BASSETT: All right.

I'm not

6 asking about any particular transaction, to 7 be clear. The question was:

In the course

8 of the engagement did Mr. Krasner ever tell 9 you, from a business perspective, he needed 10 to get approval from Mr. Kwok's wife prior 11 to making any decisions with respect to 12 properties?

I wasn't asking about a

13 particular transaction or property. 14 MR. MAJOR:

Yeah, so look, if the

15 witness and her firm are comfortable that 16 they can delineate the representations, and

17 you want to limit your question to a

18 nonGreenwich Land LLC representation, then 19 I don't think we would have an objection. 20 Because we only represent Greenwich Land 21 and Ms. Guo, who is named in the complaint 22 as Hing Chi Ngok, and I don't represent 23 anybody else.

So I can only assert

24 privilege on behalf of those two.

25 And so again, though, the way you've

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2 asked questions, trying to lump the

3 entities together, I've been objecting to

4 the form of the question because it's

5 improper.

But you are trying to make it

6 sound like, you know, Greenwich Land was no 7 different than the other entities in your 8 questions.

9 I don't know, since the witness, you

10 know, was previously deposed without our 11 involvement, I don't know if the witness is

12 able to delineate between the

13 representations that you've been grouping 14 together -- together.

I don't agree that

15 they are grouped together at all, but 16 that's the way you've decided to ask your 17 questions.

Which I think makes it a little

18 thornier when you go to ask a general 19 question like this, which is why we're also 20 objecting to the form of the question.

But 21 that's -- you know, that's just for

22 purposes of the record so we can deal with, 23 you know, what will be confusing testimony 24 later on.

25 But as to Greenwich Land, any

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2 communications that Ms. Conboy had with an

3 officer of Greenwich Land about the

4 execution of a real estate transaction 5 concerning property owned by Greenwich

6 Land, we are going to stand on our

7 objection. 8 BY MR. BASSETT: 9 Q.

Ms. Conboy, you testified before

10 that you represented Greenwich Land, Golden 11 Spring, and Hudson Diamond New York as part of 12 the same engagement. 13 Do you recall that? 14 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 15 A.

I -- can you say the question again,

16 please. 17 MR. BASSETT:

Could the court

18 reporter read it back, please? 19 (Question was read back as follows: 20 "QUESTION:

Ms. Conboy, you

21 testified before that you represented 22 Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, and Hudson

23 Diamond New York as part of the same

24 engagement.

25 Do you recall that?")

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2 A. Yes. 3 Q.

Ms. Conboy, in your communications

4 with Mr. Krasner, were you ever delineating 5 between Greenwich Land, Golden Spring, and

6 Hudson Diamond in the course of those

7 communications? 8 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.

And

9 I just caution the witness that she not

10 reveal attorney-client privileged

11 communications relating to Greenwich Land, 12 but I think the question can be answered 13 without stepping over that line. 14 MR. THOMASON:

It sounds like a

15 yes-or-no question, correct? 16 MR. BASSETT: It is a yes-or-no. 17 MR. THOMASON:

I think an answer to

18 that to -- either in the affirmative or the

19 negative wouldn't reveal privileged

20 information; is that right, Chris? 21 MR. MAJOR: Yes, that was my point. 22 MR. THOMASON:

So if you can answer

23 that question in the affirmative or the 24 negative, you can do that.

If you can't --

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1 M. CONBOY 2 THE WITNESS: Then -- okay. 3 A. So the question is if I delineated 4 between -- 5 MR. THOMASON: The different 6 entities. 7 A. -- the different entities. And 8 I'm -- I don't -- I'm not understanding what 9 that even means, if I delineated between the 10 different entities. I don't understand the 11 question. 12 Q. Well, when you took intersection 13 from Mr. Krasner and you had conversations with 14 Mr. Krasner, were you ever -- were you always 15 communicating with him as a representative on 16 behalf of all three entities or were you at 17 times drawing distinctions between which entity 18 he was communicating on behalf of? 19 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form. 20 A. I'll -- yes, all three entities. 21 Yes. 22 Q. So when you had communications with 23 him he was, in your mind, communicating on 24 behalf of all three entities? 25 A. Yes. KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 79 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 81 of 96

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2 MR. MAJOR: Objection to form.

And

3 also I'd caution the witness not to reveal 4 attorney-client privileged communications. 5 MR. BASSETT: All right.

I don't

6 think there's any confusion at this point. 7 BY MR. BASSETT:

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Is that all for the

25 witness?

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2 MR. MAJOR:

I'm going to have some

3 questions for the witness. 4 MR. THOMASON: That's fine.

5 EXAMINATION BY

6 MR. MAJOR: 7 Q. Good morning, Ms. Conboy.

My name

8 is Chris Major.

My partner Austin Kim is also

9 on. We're representing Greenwich Land LLC and 10 Ms. Guo, who is named in the complaint in this 11 adversary proceeding as a Hing Chi Ngok.

12 And have you had a chance to review

13 the complaint in this adversary proceeding? 14 A. No. 15 Q.

When was the first time that you

16 were contacted by the Chapter 11 trustee in 17 this in re Kwok bankruptcy matter? 18 A.

It was at least -- I want to say at

19 least six months ago. Maybe more. 20 Q.

Do you know the name of the

21 Chapter 11 trustee in this bankruptcy case? 22 A. I don't remember. 23 Q.

Do you recall who contacted you on

24 behalf of the trustee? 25 A. Well, first a client called me.

And

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2 then the -- I guess it was the trustee himself, 3 the partner. 4 Q. Was it Luc Despins? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. And he contacted you by phone? 7 A.

I think maybe first by e-mail and

8 then -- I did talk to him by phone. 9 Q.

Did anyone from your firm join you

10 when you spoke with Mr. Despins by phone? 11 A. I don't remember. 12 Q.

And what did Mr. Despins say to you

13 during that phone call? 14 A.

Initially, he was asking if it's --

15 about sending the binder for -- for 373 16 Taconic.

It was initially regarding the

17 Taconic -- and I represented the seller, so we 18 had to get waivers and that was the initial 19 discussion. 20 Q. Okay.

21 And did you deliver the file for 373

22 Taconic to Mr. Despins? 23 A.

I believe what happened was my

24 client, who was the seller, was friends with 25 the attorney, the trustee.

And he sent them

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2 the documents. I didn't send them. 3 Q.

Do you recall the name of your

4 client on that transaction? 5 A. Augustine, Mr. Augustine. 6 Q.

Did you deliver any documents to

7 Mr. Despins or any of his colleagues at Paul 8 Hastings? 9 A. I don't remember. I don't know. 10 Then our litigators took over.

Or Jim Riley,

11 Michael, they took over.

So I didn't have --

12 after that -- after Mr. Augustine sending the 13 documents, then I had no other contact with 14 them. 15 Q. Okay.

16 Did you have any further

17 conversations with Mr. Despins after that 18 initial phone call? 19 A. I don't remember. 20 Q.

Do you still have the e-mail that

21 you received from Mr. Despins? 22 A. I don't know. 23 Q.

Did you have further e-mail

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2 A. I don't remember. 3 Q.

Did you have communications with any

4 other lawyers at Paul Hastings in connection 5 with this bankruptcy, other than Mr. Despins? 6 A. I don't remember. 7 Q.

Have you ever spoken with

8 Mr. Bassett before today? 9 A. No. 10 Q.

Other than your deposition in --

11 under Rule 2004, which has been -- some of the 12 pages have been shown today, have you had any 13 conversations with Avi Luft of Paul Hastings? 14 A. No, not since that deposition.

I

15 only had the deposition. 16 Q.

What did you tell Mr. Despins on the

17 phone call when he asked for the closing file? 18 MR. BASSETT: Objection to form. 19 A.

That I had to check with my client

20 and see if he was agreeable, if -- I would have 21 to get his consent. 22 Q.

And going back to the Ferncliff Road

23 property, do you know whether your firm 24 provided any documents relating to that 25 property to the trustee or any of the lawyers

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2 representing the trustee at -- whether it would 3 be at his law firm or a law firm in Connecticut 4 called Neubert, Pepe & Monteith? 5 A. I don't know. 6 Q. Did you -- withdrawn.

7 Have you ever spoken to the person

8 who Mr. Bassett was referring to as Mr. Kwok? 9 A. No. 10 Q. Have you ever met him? 11 A. No. 12 Q.

In connection with the 373 Taconic

13 Road property transaction, did you do any 14 diligence as to the source of funds that were 15 used to purchase in that instance your client's 16 former -- now former home at 373 Taconic Road? 17 A. No. 18 MR. BASSETT: Objection. 19 BY MR. MAJOR: 20 Q.

Do you know who the member of

21 Greenwich Land LLC is, or members? 22 A. No. 23 Q.

Do you know the source of funds that

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2 MR. BASSETT: Object to form. 3 A. No. 4 Q.

Do you know who lives in the house

5 at 373 Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut? 6 A. No. 7 Q.

I'm limiting this question to 373

8 Taconic Road in Greenwich, Connecticut, where 9 you represented the seller.

10 Were you ever a witness to any

11 deliberations by the purchaser about acquiring 12 that property? 13 MR. BASSETT: Objection to form. 14 A. No. 15 Q.

Do you recall the name of the buyer

16 of the property at 373 Taconic Road? 17 A. I don't remember. I don't remember. 18 Q. Do you remember the purchase price? 19 A. I don't remember. 20 Q.

You said that your client was

21 friends with Mr. Despins. 22 How did you learn that? 23 A.

My client e-mailed me and -- my

24 client e-mailed me and said that he had -- 25 Mr. Despins had called my client, and my client

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1 M. CONBOY 2 said they were good friends. 3 MR. MAJOR: Why don't we go off the 4 record for a couple minutes. I just want 5 to confer with a colleague and check some 6 notes and then hopefully we can come back, 7 and I'll have a few more questions and then 8 I'll wrap up. 9 MR. BASSETT: Okay. 10 (Recess is taken.) 11 MR. MAJOR: Thank you, Ms. Conboy, 12 and Counsel for giving me a few minutes. I 13 just have a very few questions left. 14 BY MR. MAJOR: 15 Q. Mr. Bassett and his colleague 16 post -- published over this Zoom an e-mail 17 which referred to a Chinese billionaire. 18 Did you ever meet or speak with the 19 Chinese billionaire? 20 A. No. 21 Q. Did that Chinese billionaire ever 22 sign an engagement letter with your firm? 23 A. No. 24 Q. Did Mr. Kwok ever sign an engagement 25 letter with your firm? KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 88 Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 90 of 96 MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential September 12, 2023

1 M. CONBOY 2 MR. BASSETT: Objection. Form. 3 A. The entities -- I have my engagement 4 letters are with the entities. 5 Q. My question is just whether Mr. Kwok 6 was ever a signatory on an engagement letter 7 with your firm? 8 A. No. 9 MR. MAJOR: We have no further 10 questions at this time. 11 MR. BASSETT: And I have no 12 follow-up. 13 THE COURT REPORTER: Anything else? 14 MR. THOMASON: No. 15 THE COURT REPORTER: Thank you. 16 Chris, do you need a rough draft of 17 the transcript and/or a copy? 18 MR. MAJOR: I'd like a copy, but we 19 don't need a rough draft. And if we could 20 have a mini as well. 21 MR. THOMASON: Are you going to have 22 her read and sign? I was thinking. Do you 23 feel like you need the opportunity to 24 review the transcript to check for 25 everything or do you feel confident? KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL. 89

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2 THE WITNESS: No. 3 MR. THOMASON:

So no, I would

4 appreciate a courtesy copy that I don't 5 have to pay for.

If that's not possible

6 then, you know, I don't need a copy. 7 MR. BASSETT:

I believe -- so, I'm

8 just trying to think of -- what's standard 9 delivery, again? 10 THE COURT REPORTER:

It is eight

11 business days, but if you need it sooner, 12 I'm happy to do that for you.

And you

13 never said if you wanted a rough draft or 14 not. 15 MR. BASSETT:

I don't think we need

16 it.

If we -- if somebody on my team tells

17 me that I made the wrong decision, I will 18 e-mail you.

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2 THE COURT REPORTER: Okay.

Thank

3 you. 4 MR. BASSETT:

Thank you very much,

5 Ms. Conboy. I appreciate it. 6 THE WITNESS: Thank you. 7 (Time Noted:

12:08 p.m.)
10 --------------------- 11 MARGARET CONBOY
13 Subscribed and sworn to before me 14 this day of

2023.

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2 C E R T I F I C A T E 3 STATE OF NEW YORK )

4 ) ss.:

5 COUNTY OF NEW YORK )
7 I, LISA M. MURACO, a Notary Public 8 within and for the State of New York, 9 Florida, and Massachusetts, do hereby

10 certify:

11 That MARGARET CONBOY, the witness

12 whose deposition is hereinbefore set forth,

13 was duly sworn by me and that such 14 deposition is a true record of the

15 testimony given by such witness.

16 I further certify that I am not

17 related to any of the parties to this 18 action by blood or marriage; and that I am 19 in no way interested in the outcome of this 20 matter.

21 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto

22 set my hand this 13th day of September, 23 2023.

24 ------------------------- 25 LISA M. MURACO

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11 Conboy Exhibit 1, Conboy Deposition 15

Transcript from February 21, 2023
Conboy Exhibit 2,
16 Conboy Exhibit 3,

19 Conboy Exhibit 4, October 3rd, 2019, 32

E-mail Bates labeled WBAM_010076
Conboy Exhibit 5, January 22, 2019, 36 22 E-mail Bates labeled WBAM_0002663

24 Conboy Exhibit 6, January 6, 2019, 38

E-mail, Bates Stamped WBAM_002803

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KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.

1 2 I N D E X O F E X H I B I T S(Cont'd.) 3 DESCRIPTION PAGE 4 Conboy Exhibit 7, July 12, 2019, E-mail 43 Chain Bates Labeled WBAM\_003873 5 6 Conboy Exhibit 8, December 15, 2020, 50 7 E-mail Bates Stamped WBAM\_0038336 8 9 Conboy Exhibit 9, Whitman Breed Trustee 57 Ledger, Bates Labeled WBAM\_00002 10 11 12 QUESTIONS INSTRUCTED NOT TO ANSWER 13 Page Line 14 68 2 68 21 15 70 20 80 25 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 800.211.DEPO (3376)

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Case 22-50073 Doc 2292-45 Filed 10/26/23 Entered 10/26/23 20:46:12 Page 96 of 96

September 12, 2023
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MARGARET CONBOY· Confidential KWOK V. GREENWICH LAND ET AL.

ERRATA SHEET FOR THE TRANSCRIPT OF:

Case Name: KWOK v GREENWICH LAND, et al.

Dep. Date: TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2023 Deponent: MARGARET CONBOY

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